FILM VS DIGITAL, which one is better?
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From the two types the B&W in my opinion looks finer, better exposed, it takes you to a different time, it has a mood, an air, nostalgia. The digital images are beautiful as well, but the way the sensor works in comparison with film is that they tent to lose information when overexposed, or if there are high lights they are almost always burnt. It feels like film capture the light more like the human eye and probably that’s way it feels more natural.
nowadays lens are bad. they tends to focus a sharpness and the result looks like a doll. If you look at the film picture, notice also the gradient blur from front to back, impossible to do with a recent lens.
@Pete Melon true
Hi, Any reason you didn't do a comparison between Color Film and Digital? Black and White vs Color does not seem like a fair comparison.
agreed, but we still got a chance to compare other aspects, including many she mentioned, "Slow down", less can be more, 15 shots in a roll of film vs 500 shots in digital, meh.. i shoot both, but lately i've been shooting more film than digital specially after I started developing my own.
a lot of people shy away from developing colour film ( C41 )in their house.. but actually, its not very difficult .. ive done 4 rolls so far without a hitch.
Marcos Santana I throw away all my digital 😂 moved to large format still taco developing 😂✌🏼
rob b I do e6 as well and tetenal is the best colortec
That’s exactly what I was going to comment. It just does not feel right.
Someone asked me, if i had to choose only one or another, I would definitely choose digital!
Its far more reliable, faster and easier, especially if i worked with clients again!
Make sure you watch in 1080p guys, and thank you for watching :)
Whether it is film or digital
Iruska cleo rockzzz
I THINK TODAYS DIGITAL VIDEO FORMAT LOOKS MORE REAL AND CRYSTAL CLEAR 😉😁
I really love your work... film and digital also!
You are inspiring, not only for your talent as a photographer, but for your beautiful personality. You are so helpful in sharing costs, how to do it, all your creativity!
Incredible how much better the highlights look on the films shots. WoW just WoW
Love shooting with both. I usually carry my film camera to group shoots in my area. I agree with you that when shooting film it does help you slow down and think regarding composition and lighting. I learned photography back in high school days and community college days using a film camera.
Love your work!
Thank you and yes, this was very helpful. As someone who is just descovering film now I appreciate this.
That was an enjoyable video for me Irene. I think you did a very good job. Keep up the good work.
In love with the film photos!
📷📷📷For this project, both film and digital work extremely well and I'm glad you shot both - excellent job!!😀
The film shots really came out great Irene, and a more pleasing focal length on the Mamiya too I feel.
Wow, I really prefer the film version! Nicely done and explained!
When digital cameras came on the scene, I ditched film so damn fast! It's funny how new adults are finding the novelty of film.
A lot of people who ditched film when digital came out are now starting to use film again. I think they're trying to distance themselves from the people buying a dslr and instantly calling themselves a photographer. You really have to know what you're doing and take your time when shooting film. I shoot both and i find film way more statisfying because it feels like i actually created something. My next step will be collodion.
Hipsters gonna hipster
New adult HAH!
Film is more natural than digital
Digital vs film does not matter its about the lens! The lens creates the exposure and controls the light. Todays digital cameras have plenty of latitude and plenty of megapixels. Get a manual lens and have the convenience of digital. You want a little softness add a slight blur....The film has to go through 2 degrees of separation before you see the image on the screen....ONCE ON FILM...THEN SCANNED ON GLASS TO BE EXPOSED AGAIN TO THE DIGITAL SCANNER... Those epson scanners are not high end drum scans.. that you choose from a contact sheet and send to the lab for pro scanning.... so digital with some old school lens will be fine..
The film photos are amazing!
I enjoyed this. I use a D810 and Mamiya 645 1000S with the 210mm. For me film is about the process. Here in the U.K I budget on £2 per shutter press to include film cost, developing and high quality scan by my favourite lab and shipping costs.
You really taught me a lot and still are. You're such an inspiration Irene. Love ya xD
Irene!!!! Love you!!!
Great comparison. Both sets were stunning. Film and digital work so well together. I feel that with photography nowadays we have the best of both worlds and can choose whatever we want to shoot as the mood takes. I'd love to see you shoot a roll of portra with your mamiya, get it devd and scanned at a good lab. ☺
Gorgeous images. Wow
I'm glad to see you shooting film and even developing your own. I've been shooting digital for 5 years now, and only started shooting film a year ago. I now develop my own film at home and surprisingly im shooting more film than digital, but I still shoot hybrid during all of my shoots. I recently shot a model in a train station in here in NYC, 22 shots on film, 75 digital. Almost all my of my film shots were a keeper, better composed. I was surprised my self :-)
Both are good!😁👍
This came at the perfect time, I’m looking at trying out film, I have a Canon 5D Mark 3 too so wanted to try it out. Thanks for the video! 🙏🏼
Thanks for shining a light on your use of film. It also would've been interesting seeing you attempt to replicate the look from the medium format film camera with your DSLR by shooting with a deeper dof and doing B&W in post.
You’re my inspiration omg
comme d habitude des photos magnifiques! film comme numérique sont sublimes !
Once you scan the film into digital it becomes an unfair comparison. A more fair comparison would be to use glass plates for the film shots.
I do enjoy digital. Personally, film. The process suits me better. It's more rewarding and satisfying for me. It's different for everybody :) Also, since you've got the 5D mark III, I find "scanning" the film using the DSLR (by taking a picture of it against a soft lightbox) gives more detail. I can't wait for more film videos from you! I was already here before that, but since it's delving more into film.. it's such a bonus. Thank you for exploring and constant dedication to learning and sharing!
Awesome job. Thank you.
Both are great and I loved it... I believe that even with the film camera is cheaper with the accessories to get a photoshoot with one of those vintage cameras should be way more expensive as you will be paying for the talent, the time and the expertise of a photographer... and not everyone can get shoots like the ones you have done with a vintage camera... I believe that you are in a good road if you want to bring the vintage photography to a commercial level... I'm excited to be part/witness of what you will be doing with this vintage cameras from the beginning....
First coment, you are amazing ❤️❤️😍😍😍
I really want to learn how to shoot with film, it looks so amazing!
hay alguna manera de descargar las imágenes para comparar..gracias...muy buen trabajo..eres genial...
Both are great, and you're the best :)
Put my finger thru my shutter takin film out of my camera inside the changing bag. Silly me only did that once and that was 20 or so years ago. Studio and the darkroom on same floor. Did color too. I miss those days. Rockin out and developing and printing. Was awesome to have experienced earlier film photography and all that went with it. As well as going along on the technology roller coaster to the present. Only thing is you get older too fast. Great videos . Greetings from MN, USA. PS Did photography work for the Mannix family in Calgary a while back.
I love you work😍😍😍 Thank u very much i have learned allot from you
any noticeable difference from the better scanning holder? i thought about getting one too but not sure
I love shooting BW film, and digital Color! Thanks for sharing
I really love the photos ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thanks Irene, after years an years shooting with film, ( amateur, student and professional ) I´m so happy with digital now, sometimes I think, I should shoot with film, I have a couple of cameras yet, but, I prefer to do the work with my digital cameras. Saludos!
This is not an accurate comparison between film vs digital. Not only are you comparing B&W (film) vs Color (digital), but the film format that you are using is medium format.
Why not do an apples to apples comparison? Use color slide flim (35 mm) vs digital color full frame
Totally agree there is room for both, I want to move upto 4x5 for my landscapes and also my Portraits too, for me it's the whole process with film that makes me more appreciative toward the end images but at the same time love My digital gear but if i had the choice to make of only owning one or other Film would win for me as there is a certain aesthetic look to it that is hard to match
Excellent video Irene, If you process B&W film yourself the cost isn't to bad but if you want to shoot color or have your B&W film developed at a lab it gets pretty costly. I learned on film many years ago, many, :) and back then there was an infrastructure that was set up to support the use of film with a film lab in every town, 1 hour labs were everywhere. Now days that has mostly disappeared making it much more costly and also taking a lot longer to get your film back from the lab. I still enjoy shooting film along side my digital cameras but fear that film is slowly fading away.
They are both excellent. I didn’t know you could scan the negative directly and then edit the photo with film that’s very cool actually.
Damn good photography!!!
Both groups of shots were great! I started in 35mm film many years ago and was a slow convert to digital! Back in the day I had my own darkroom and developed all my B&W and some color prints. now all these years later I'm in the process of shooting several rolls of B&W 35mm again and will process the film myself and then scan the film into my computer. Eventually I would like to try 120 B&W if I can find a nice camera to play with! I don't know if I will stick with film but I'm having fun shooting it again!
Умение работать на пленочных камерах также ценно, как открытие различных категорий в водительских правах-чем больше.тем лучше. Какая бы камера не была в твоих руках, главное, ты можешь создавать сюжет фото. А это,уже, талант!
Чем ценно? На дигитале всё быстрее и не хуже по качеству.
You are just great!!
Film all the way! I would say that the key difference between your digital and film photos is that digital pops more in a frontal sense while the film is more recessed, keeping that distance from an observer, which I adore.
Wow I love this. I haven't shot portraits on film (I used to use film but before my portrait work). Maybe I will try this sometime. It seems so fun! :)
Michelle Cox Photography you should! It is such a different experience
nice working I love it.
what file size are yiu getting with your film scan vs digital? Also have you tried hi res scans of the film? If so what quality did you get?
I do not develop my film so for me film is more time consuming and I have to be more patient to get my photos. I see film and digital as two different way to get pictures, the same as when I decide to do macro I do not use the same lens and works differently than if I am doing portrait. Same with film and digital, both are different with a diffrent approach and feeling. I am much more cautious when I take film shots. I also went with a fully manual film camera to better my abilities at focusing. I am using a Pentax K1000 and I have to say the feeling of the mirror going up and down when you take a shot is quite nice compare to the sanatized touch of the D750. I also use the Lightmeter app on my phone to meter my light, so I have good results... very interesting video by the way
you can apply warp stabilization to the handheld parts of your video for a more pleasing experience. but dont bother yourself with too much video editing details.
How do you edit your videos to look.. well like film??
I would never ask if film better than digital, they are just different to me. The film is more about details of the process, and as you mentioned, in digital you tend to miss them
Those are crazy questions to ask...digital is for supply and demand ..Film is for photographers like me who like real colors,
Film is 100% better and I shoot both. Your black and white images are fantastic!
Your analog workflow isn’t slow enough to make much difference for comparison. Try using a larger format like 6x7 on a tripod and you’ll feel it. Otherwise you’re just replacing a sensor with emulsion on another slr body.
You can also develop your own color film pretty easily, with the chemical "kits" available today, which makes color film almost as cheap to shoot as B&W film.
I love the look of the film , I guess is the MF negative, that has a very good quality. As always your work is outstanding
Great work and discussion on the interesting topic of film vs digital. You should do a sequel video of converting the same digital photos to B&W (using Photoshop or Nik SilverEfex, etc) in attempt to capture the same mood or feel of your actual film shots, to really bring your comparison home.
Also shooting film and digital, film with large, medium, and small format. Keep in mind that when shooting 120 film, that it uses a larger format than your digital full frame camera has. So you need to calculate the lens f-stop accordingly to the used format if you compare both systems and lenses with each other.
Quality video, I think digital cameras are better but at a cost. I got into film with the Nikon f80, loved the full frame look and now have a Nikon D750. So to me the issue is would I go back APS-C the answer is no because it’s all about the DOF for your chosen lens. Thank you for your video.
film development is a lot of fun. .. theres room for both IMO
I recently talked to a young man who I discovered was very interested in photography (he did not know anything about my own 'Special Effect' photography), and having told me that it was his main hobby, I was intrigued, and very surprised, when he explained that he far preferred to use film rather than digital imaging. Even though it is so difficult and expensive to buy film these days. I wrongly presumed he was referring to Black and White photography, but soon realised he was buying colour films.
All new cameras, even mobile phones, are digital. Also, there are only a few small laboratories that will process colour film, and home processing although possible, is not easy. Yet he told me there are groups of photographers, like him, preferring to use film and their numbers are growing.
I have looked on the Internet and there are indeed lots of discussions on the advantages, or disadvantages, of using film in comparison with digital.
The majority claim that in using film, because of the need to be far more selective (taking far less photographs due to the high costs), has trained them to become far better photographers.
Another claim was that good digital cameras are expensive and need to be replaced every four, or five years, as they are upgraded so frequently. Yet buying a second-hand film camera will be cheaper, last a lifetime and will hold its value, even though film cameras are far bulkier and heavier.
Lastly, old transparencies and negatives can, and will always be, easily viewed, but who knows, as digital technology changes so quickly, if it will be possible to view digital images in the future.
I was amazed to learn this, because of the incredible possibilities of digital photography, that now exist. The cameras not only make it easier to control the image and exposure, in so many ways, that were much more complicated before with film. There is the advantage of seeing the digital result immediately. But even after having taken the picture, with the aid of software, the options available now to manipulate digital photographs are just fantastic!
This made me reflect on why I had favoured using colour reversal film (for my own creative transparencies) rather than negative film in the 1960's, before anyone had computers. I enjoyed most viewing the large projected image, far more than a print, even though there was no option to alter the picture once taken, yet I was using it for my own 'special effects'. But having to wait at least a week, to see the transparencies, was frustrating.
I preferred transparencies to negatives because I found it extremely hard to master colour printing, as an amateur, so I always relied on professional processing laboratories to make my prints.
My 'Special Effects' pictures were imaginative (nothing like the usual photographs) and I soon found that it was nearly impossible, when they made prints from my negatives, for them to know how to get the colour balance that I really wanted. The advantage of transparencies was that I could simply instruct them to match the colour balance of the transparency that they could see.
My favourite film was the Kodak 'Kodachrome 25' that sadly is no longer available. Transparencies were so much more vibrant than any of the prints and so I concentrated on what I could do with Kodachrome. By always using this film I soon got to know, how best to control it, even with my own 'Special Effects'.
These days I am excited by the digital option, rather than film. However, using my own invented 'Painting with light' technique that involves photographing projected images, I can create some effects that would be exceedingly difficult to achieve with digital software.
My own views have always been that the most important aspect of photography is the resulting picture, the composition, the quality and the choice of subject. Not the questions of the technique, or make of camera, lens used, or film etc. It is only the resulting picture that really matters; however, it was created!
After so many years using film, I am now personally totally sold on the digital system, but should any readers be interested in what special effects I achieved with my own 'Painting with Light' technique, please do have a look at my website www.jncohen.net/Limited-Edition-Prints/Painting-with-light.htm
Well done Irene , very nice comparison . Will you do a video shooting also with the canon AE1 ?
I will definitely shoot it soon ;)
The colour of the outfit can affect black and white images especially if using coloured filters. Both are great tools and have their own pros and cons, for me it’s not either or, I enjoy both heck of a lot. But given a choice between the darkroom and Lightroom the darkroom wins every time, I find the darkroom fun and Lightroom a chore. It reminds me of when I was a chef although the chemicals I use to cook an image in the darkroom are a lot safer than any food I served. Another great video, you are definitely taking to the analogue malarkey.
@4.47 My opinion, which we all know not everyone shares, is that the image on the left is far better.
Does the film provide more dynamic range?
I'm a long, long time film shooter, also mostly using Mamiya and Pentax mediums. If you have a chance and inclination, try shooting old tech film, like FP4 or Plus-X with a light yellow green filter. The skin takes on a glow you have to see.
How do you like the better scanning holder? I have that exact model Epson, but find scan results with the plastic holder a bit hit or miss.
I love it, i re-scanned some images with it, and they came out much smoother and sharper
That's great to hear! I just ordered one and I'm looking forward to rescanning some negatives for better results.
Great video and images personally I love black and white so the film wins. There’s no way I could do my day job as a newspaper photographer with film these days of everything now now now mean digital is essential. On my own leisure time however I’m enjoying the slower pace and challenge of film especially as at the moment I’m hooked of medium format folders from the 40s genuinely loving the results from these old classics 📷❤️
Can I have this 2 images to check the different...you can use a link to downloads
one other point Irene, with film, you have less chance of losing the shot, aka like a 'corupt' card or hitting delete, by mistake, in digital ; also with film, you get everything right in camera, and in the darkroom, all the dust, etc. is removed with correct technique BEFORE it hits the scanner, and also cleaning the scanner's glass!!; another cost you did NOT factor in, is the power costs, lighting is constant between both methods, but I am talking about the power through your desktop/laptop computer, the less it is doing "proccessing" and work, the less power it draws, so the less you need to "edit" in digital the cheaper the power costs!!
Hi Irene, my Mamiya C220 always could not shooting shutter,so I would like to know what is the simple shooting sequence? if you have time, Thank you so . much!
Irene, you also forget, when you shoot film, esp. medium and Large format, you can do a polaroid instant shot, to assess composition and to some degree exposure.
Unfortunately my Mamiya doesn’t have a Polaroid back :(
Garment colors affect b&w outcome in combined use with orange, yellow, red, etc., lens filters. Color filter's affect the warmth of skin tones as well. Using the Zone system, light metering, and available natural light will be critical in determining the final image.
The best thing about film are having the abilities to push, pull, use dev time, temp, dodge, burn, lomographic film, uv light (platinotype), silver-gel, photo tinting, to influence how photos turnout out.
Platinotype, and silver-gel photos will outlast any inkjet print, and have a different look than simply printing an image on aluminum plate, or glacee.
Film can also print instantly, like Polaroid, Instax. Instant film include negatives that can be drum scanned up to 1.7 Gigabytes in TIFF file. Saying film is not sharp, or fuzzy is not accurate.
Shooting film could be expensive, and time consuming, but it carries a higher artistic value because it takes a lot of skills, failures, and time to re-create the piece. For certain shoots there's just no way to tell a special story by speeding up the process. Even with digital, you'll be taking thousands of shots to get a few great photos.
Just outstanding portraits! I'll check out your insta
I know it is a big pain in the butt but I just love the look of film and really have been giving up on digital.
I love you. You're the best
It would have been nice to see either both in B&W or both in color ;) I love my DSLR for sure but I take out my old Rolleicord out once in a while just to enjoy the time and the slowing down.
awesome awesome awesome
To me they both look the same! If you took the colored one (taken in digital) & added a black & white filter on it, I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between them!👌🏻
can you share to us the color grading that you use on this video?
Lovely
I really like your film shots! Do you reuse the chemicals btw? If not, where do u pour them after? Sink doesn’t sound environmentally friendly
So i save the stop and fixer and re-use it later, and for the developer, i don't pour it down the drain, i keep it in the big bottle and then take it down to dispose it.
Irene Rudnyk thank you for the reply. I've been curious about learning to develop my own film!
I shoot both film and digital. Digital is far far better in every aspect but sometimes I feel like taking it slow and grab a roll of Tri-X. Developing can also be therapeutic ;)
What’s a ‘visco filter’ please?
You are the best photographre
Film is actual physical print on celluloid. Digital is a bunch of pixels making an image. So film will always be technically supierior. However, at this point, you can’t tell the difference.
AWESOME shots!
Some things to consider:
If you use Canon 50 1.2L you will have exactly the same field of view and depth of field like the Mamiya 80 1.9 on 645 you are using. I have tested that myself with my older Canon FD 50 1.2L and my m645 with 80 1.9. Also if you want to show "why film?" you have to try the Fuji Pro 400H or Portra 400... :D. But even with BW film - everybody can see how the film looks more realistic and 3D.The topic is quite large to discuss it here :).
Great video again :)!
Simeon Kolev I noticed that my 80mm 1.9 lens has a wider view than the 85mm 1.2 I was shooting with. Now it makes sense.
Yep :) it is a crop factor thing.
Are you implying that full frame canon mark iv is a crop sensor in relationship to medium format Mamiya 645? It doesn’t make sense since canon 5d Mark iv is full frame
That is exactly what I was trying to say. M645 has "sensor" size of 56x42mm compared to 35x24mm of the 5DIV it is something like comparing 5DIV to 80D for example... That is why the 80mm on the m645 is actually like a 50mm on the 5DIV in terms of field of view.
That is crazy but it totally makes sense. Thank you for clarification
Thak you for lesson!
The photographer has a beautiful figure!
She's pennnnnnnnnnggggggggggg!
The image quality of a RED 8K camera is unbeatable. You get crystal clear images on a TV with no grain or noise.
Nice to see you using my favorite camera. Wonder if the price of used Mamiya 645 cameras has gone up on eBay recently...
Lovely smooth tonal transitions and contrast with the HP5+ and your development / scanning process. I think you hit on something useful here; that is, for the classic black and white look, shoot film, and for color shoot digital.
I think it did. I saw the same setup on kijiji for $700, but on ebay the cheapest was $1000
Try a larger format like 6x6 or 6x7. Mamiyas and Bronicas can both be found at good prices. The Mamiya RB isn't as easy to use as the 645 but is built like a tank, can be a lot of fun, and give you a good workout all at the same time. Plus 6x7 is huge compared to 645.
I'd invest more in lenses and lights than film or digital equipment. Those don't ever become obsolete.
Veľmi pekná práca! Len mi vadí ,že vyrábate dreveného koníka z umelej hmoty a nie z dreva.Uznávam,že práca vo fotoshope je variabilnejšia a dajú sa odstrániť nedostatky,ale vezmite si príklad zo starších umelcov fotografov.Vedeli aj v mokrom procese vytvoriť krásne obrazy.Dnes ,keď píšem tento odkaz má meniny módna fotografka IRINA YONESCO.Skúste si vyhľadať jej práce.Vaša práca je úžasná a držím Vám palce a prajem veľa ďalších skvelých obrazov. S pozdravom Váš obdivovateľ zo SLOVENSKA
Could I get the complete name of the scanner you use please? Would any scanner do the trick or would it have to be a specific one, that’s one of my questions. As always, love your work!
epson v600
Irene Rudnyk
Thank you!
i'll always have greater respect for those who create 10 out of 12 fantastic frames than...those who click hundreds millions. for money I always photograph with a digit but always negatives for myself ...
The analogue images look much more natural in terms of colors and light, in black and white they look very classy. If the photographer had done an even better exposure metering, namely spot metering, which measures the darkest and brightest parts of the subject and then scanned with a very good scanner (the Epson V600 is not one of them), then she would have which can significantly increase the image quality.