John, This is one of the better, more informative and insightful videos you've done. This doesn't seem like a commercial for a company, product or machine. Thank you.
Before you buy a chip briqueter, try just rinsing your chips. We've been doing this on a smaller scale with pretty good results. A 55 gallon drum of "dry" chips will yield 5 gallons of coolant at ~7% concentration. A second five gallons comes out at about half that. Just dump clean water on the top of the barrel and your coolant can come out a hole in the bottom. The results vary with what your chips look like, basically the the yield goes up with smaller chips. This has cut our coolant consumption by roughly 1/3" and it didn't take any investment in machinery, plus it keeps all that coolant in our shop where we can use it and out of the scrap yard's dirt lot.
This was incredible - i remember watching his first shop tour and wow Jon has come a long way. What an amazing shop and growth of his business. Very well thought out. I am surprised he does not have any robots on repeatable work. Thank you for another amazing tour - very inspirational to people starting out.
Loved the extra long video. It gave us time to be more envious of this excellent shop. Great to see manufacturing well and truly alive. Really appreciate the time you take to do these shop tours. Thanks John.
So good I had to like it from all my accounts. Great work John! Please keep up your coverage of these guys. Big thanks to Area 419 and Jon for allowing such an open and transparent tour. It’s hugely inspirational to us little guys still working to get to that level.
Wow, quite the change from not that long ago, thank you for being so generous with your time to do this tour. Some of your comments about what was working and what isnt was also very useful. Charles
I would be very happy working here, the owner 's attention to detail and the thought of employee moral earns him much respect. Many shop owners get stuck in the past and forget to modernize because they think it's stupid or unnecessary and wonder why nobody wants to work for them. Great video tour!
Nice to see some love for the DT-1. Have one in my garage shop and is smaller than my previous hobby mill. Scary when you first see the table flying around!
Wow! Amazing shop! I'm so glad that the owner is doing everything in-house instead of outsourcing! Keeping people employed! Thanks for doing this video! :)
That water system at the end of the video is amazing and cleanly set up/installed. That may sound silly to compliment AREA-419's water system, but water in the USA is something we all take for granted, and I once had a water issue, and was chewing up all sorts of things, including the plumbing itself, until I got a specialist or rather, a team of specialist's out where I am at. Have water too clean or pure, sound good, but, with out getting into covalent bonding, as if we are back in high school, too clean of water, is exceptionally rough on anything and everything the water is in contact with, even plastics type plumbing, let alone alloy type plumbing. So, if you are unsure, get educated, and or bring in a water testing group and get yours tested. A sprung leak in a copper pipe at Friday night at 8:30 PM after everybody has left for the day, only to return in two days on a Monday, to see that a bazillion gallons of water has filled the complex with a standing 3 inches of water. Please don't ask the cost of the water bill that following month. All from super clean water that demanded a few trillion trillion free electrons from from the copper piping. On a more positive note, I will soon be ordering one of these presses. Not that I need another loading presses, but, these AREA-419 presses are just clever and of course, sexy. I need to figure out a way to convince the wife why 8 presses is not enough, or how this unit is different and more accurate then the others ,which it is, but, I don't think she cares, LOL.. Just kidding, I don't need permission to get one of these, just don't mention that I got one to her, and problem solved.... I think I can use the same ole rebuttal as always, where I mention, how many $2500 purses she needs or $1500 silly looking pairs of shoes she has in a walk in closet that only holds her shoes and purses, as if you are walking into a bank vault or the hidden control rooms at the Smithsonian's restoration lab.. All for stupid shoes and purses.. See, I am getting scared of my wife, that I am building up the game plan already of how to handle this ... LOL.. All jokes aside, I will soon be getting one of these presses. I so look forwards to using this model, I like how open it is. That doesn't mean the other types of presses are bad or not gonna get used, Nah, I just want one, is all.. Thank you for the time and effort put into making this video happen. AREA-419 makes allot of really neat stuff. You all should check out their website, even if you are not a reloader/loader, you never know, you may just decide, that the aluminum funnel will be fitting for something you are doing, not related to am mo reloading/loading among other items they manufacture in house. Thank you.
Fantastic Video. I watched every minute. Jon has obviously got it together. Looks like he has really gone the extra mile on just about everything. Very nice job by your crew as well John. Thank You for the inspiration.
Where do you start, very well done tour of an obviously well thought out operation, the icing on the cake was the comment "make it a place you want to work", no truer words have ever been spoken.
This is so cool!! What an amazing shop , I really wish automation , and cnc machining and manufacturing was more common in my country , I would love to work in a shop like this.
Wow... I watched and sent the file I recorded from your first cnc/NYC video. That blew me into getting started w/cnc. When I saw this I was so pumped up for you it actually got a little emotional... I am so inspired by your story Jon, thank you for taking the time and being so giving to us trying to climb up the ladder! KUDO'S brother!!! Best regards, Seth
I think he had it for a short time time make the "prooven cuts" and then the machine goes somewhere else. As far as I remeber that was a machine moving between shops. You could see if from all the stickers it had :-) If he got another one, then I missed that
I am retired from 50 years of shop ownership. I find it interesting that the same weak link of the chain syndrome is still affecting how the shop runs. You go from tool wear to chip removal to part removal to temperature control and inspection. One of those will always be controlling production. Be proud of your achievement! Just sayin, JIM
Man have we come a long way in production machining with tool deflection being the biggest, baddest problem possible in 1968. I remember when they used a Fosdick tape NC to check the work of Pratt and Whitney Tape-O-Matics three axis drilling machines in an aircraft tooling shop. Just kids being kids back then. One hold-down clamp in the way of the tool and wiping the table clean. The 1959-60 technology was nothing compared to today. In those days the tape operated machines were little more than manual machines without the accuracy of trough mikes to measure distances and no where near accurate with the tape breaking and getting wet with coolant. The Fosdicks were guaranteed 0.0001 end of table to end of table, but who was the judge if the tolerance was met. LOL!
Impressive shop, looks to be some huge investments done, ten million+. Looking at their webshop and products I at first glance can't figure out how those relative few and small products can defend the investments, but they must sell a large numbers of each item, and/or they might do general custom jobs not shown in the video. I do not doubt the gentleman is fully on top of things. Impressive being able setting up such a shop in the US today, with all the competition from overseas/Asia. Interesting tour, well done, best of luck.
Absolutely amazing , i'd love to have the opportunity to rough such volumes . I could never achieve something like that at my last workplace , even tough i had the machine , i've never had the proper work for it .
Late to the table here, but the discussion of the DT-1 at 55:43 was hugely insightful. Acceleration isn't one of the headline specs for a machine tool, but it clearly has a huge impact on cycle times. Got me thinking about why Fanuc Robodrill owners seem to keep buying them again and again.
Thats a very impressive shop. We have an NLX in our shop too, for the type of production you I wouldn't recommend thise though. They are very slow in production compared to say a nakamura or Okuma, and you don't loose any rigidity or accuracy with thise two machines compared to the NLX's just as an example we had a job that we ran on our Mori and Okuma at the same time, we used the exact same tooling feed rates and everything, the Mori was 1:20 and our Okuma was 0:56 that really adds up over time.
Amazing tour! The thing that blows my mind away is that people are buying these products, like, I guess I just don't get it but just loading ammunition has helped finance all this stuff. Great success story! It would have been nice to see what these products do, for people like myself it isn't totally clear or obvious what these things do.
@@yianni3251 Seems obvious he is talking about the products they're making, i.e the zero. I had the same question and found it well answered by looking at their website and youtube channel. Wild guess, the zero might bring in around 20 million in revenue, that's only 16,667 units.
Love the shop tours keep up the great work . do kind of wish the camera man would zoom in sometime on certain things more. but that just a very small constructive criticism. could just be me though to.
Wish u could check our shop out we take a different approach to capto tooling loading offset via a presetter High mix low quantity they are pretty dam good!
Great shop! Thanks for the tour. What are the details on your offices white noise system? We have the same polished concrete floors and acoustics is an issue.
That was inspiring, thanks for sharing. Would it be possible to go over costs on tours like this? For example, building costs, machine costs, etc. Grand Designs always concludes with asking those questions.
1:15:00 I'm surprised there isn't a product that has two pipes to each coolant tank from a box on the wall. You can then pump coolant from the tanks to the box and back. The box measures the concentration of the tank at the box [one measurement]. Depending on the level, it adds coolant or water and pushes that down the pipe to the tank. All fully automated.
@@area419 I've been thinking about it a bit more. Pump at each tank and a level sensor. Turned on by wifi. Ditto for water, for concentrate and for reclaimed coolant. Then on the wall, one unit that measures the Brix. That's probably the expensive bit. Then for each connection, pipe in and a return pipe that goes to a couple of ball valves that connect to a manifold. Another option is a UV steriliser box. So to measure. Shut all valves except those to the required machine. Start the pump and clear the pipes, then measure. The calculates are then straight forward. Add water, coolant and or reclaimed coolant to the required level by turning on their pumps. If the manifold goes via the UV steriliser you get some biological protection. Power just goes to the Steriliser and Brix, the rest can be daisy chained with valve voltage and a CAN bus. 5 wires. Doesn't even need a raspberry pi or arduino, lots of CAN boards available. The main box, has power supply , Brix and a pi. That can even do all the monitoring and record keeping. Even drive a web display so you can see what's going on. You could even get a drain tank option where it drains the tank into the reclaim or even into a dump. Done right you just daisy chain together.
Heh.... using a tombstone... horizontal... in between a main and sub spindle of a millturn... you can get some nice flexibility in something that predominantly do round bar all day long...
We're here!
turn around. wrong place. ;)
@@nyccnc Instructions unclear, watching old Grimsmo videos
Thats a real nice space you got but you really need some art on the walls. They look all empty.
@@POTMODELUXE we moved into the space a couple weeks ago, I think the video makes fairly clear we are going to make everything look nice
@@area419 yeah looking forward to see it! Great job!
Rewatching this two years later
John, This is one of the better, more informative and insightful videos you've done. This doesn't seem like a commercial for a company, product or machine. Thank you.
John like never makes videos like that. At least comparing him to Titan’s of CNC he surely doesn’t.
Before you buy a chip briqueter, try just rinsing your chips. We've been doing this on a smaller scale with pretty good results. A 55 gallon drum of "dry" chips will yield 5 gallons of coolant at ~7% concentration. A second five gallons comes out at about half that. Just dump clean water on the top of the barrel and your coolant can come out a hole in the bottom. The results vary with what your chips look like, basically the the yield goes up with smaller chips. This has cut our coolant consumption by roughly 1/3" and it didn't take any investment in machinery, plus it keeps all that coolant in our shop where we can use it and out of the scrap yard's dirt lot.
Do you have any pictures?
Thank you
Nice haircut John, makes you look way younger!
Can't wait for the release!
Nah that guy on the Mori takes the cake for haircuts.
When a man has a Mullet you know he's not to be messed with!
This was incredible - i remember watching his first shop tour and wow Jon has come a long way. What an amazing shop and growth of his business. Very well thought out. I am surprised he does not have any robots on repeatable work. Thank you for another amazing tour - very inspirational to people starting out.
That'll be remedied when John comes back next year ;)
Awesome vid! And shoutout to Julie for the timestamps they’re super useful
on stand by !! gonna have my small team of 4 watch this ! the first video was a huge inspiration
God I want to work there just for the lunch room, it is indeed one of the most overlooked things and shop.
Loved the extra long video.
It gave us time to be more envious of this excellent shop.
Great to see manufacturing well and truly alive.
Really appreciate the time you take to do these shop tours.
Thanks John.
Amazing tour, one of the best I have seen on this channel
So good I had to like it from all my accounts. Great work John! Please keep up your coverage of these guys. Big thanks to Area 419 and Jon for allowing such an open and transparent tour. It’s hugely inspirational to us little guys still working to get to that level.
WOOT. Watch the channel all the time and then i see Area419 on here, nice! MDPRS representing.
Wow, quite the change from not that long ago, thank you for being so generous with your time to do this tour. Some of your comments about what was working and what isnt was also very useful. Charles
Amazing, incredible, both Jon and John rock. Jon Addis has a very calm and confident way about him.
Great company
I would be very happy working here, the owner 's attention to detail and the thought of employee moral earns him much respect. Many shop owners get stuck in the past and forget to modernize because they think it's stupid or unnecessary and wonder why nobody wants to work for them. Great video tour!
Fantastic shop. That is my lifelong dream to have a shop like that.
Amazing shop and thanks for sharing ideas. We are a small shop of 2 guys and 2 spindles making great parts.
Nice to see some love for the DT-1. Have one in my garage shop and is smaller than my previous hobby mill. Scary when you first see the table flying around!
Really excited to see this shop tour!
How is this comment from 2 days ago when it only went live 7 hours ago lol
Wow!
Amazing shop!
I'm so glad that the owner is doing everything in-house instead of outsourcing! Keeping people employed!
Thanks for doing this video! :)
That water system at the end of the video is amazing and cleanly set up/installed. That may sound silly to compliment AREA-419's water system, but water in the USA is something we all take for granted, and I once had a water issue, and was chewing up all sorts of things, including the plumbing itself, until I got a specialist or rather, a team of specialist's out where I am at. Have water too clean or pure, sound good, but, with out getting into covalent bonding, as if we are back in high school, too clean of water, is exceptionally rough on anything and everything the water is in contact with, even plastics type plumbing, let alone alloy type plumbing. So, if you are unsure, get educated, and or bring in a water testing group and get yours tested. A sprung leak in a copper pipe at Friday night at 8:30 PM after everybody has left for the day, only to return in two days on a Monday, to see that a bazillion gallons of water has filled the complex with a standing 3 inches of water. Please don't ask the cost of the water bill that following month. All from super clean water that demanded a few trillion trillion free electrons from from the copper piping.
On a more positive note, I will soon be ordering one of these presses. Not that I need another loading presses, but, these AREA-419 presses are just clever and of course, sexy. I need to figure out a way to convince the wife why 8 presses is not enough, or how this unit is different and more accurate then the others ,which it is, but, I don't think she cares, LOL.. Just kidding, I don't need permission to get one of these, just don't mention that I got one to her, and problem solved.... I think I can use the same ole rebuttal as always, where I mention, how many $2500 purses she needs or $1500 silly looking pairs of shoes she has in a walk in closet that only holds her shoes and purses, as if you are walking into a bank vault or the hidden control rooms at the Smithsonian's restoration lab.. All for stupid shoes and purses.. See, I am getting scared of my wife, that I am building up the game plan already of how to handle this ... LOL.. All jokes aside, I will soon be getting one of these presses. I so look forwards to using this model, I like how open it is. That doesn't mean the other types of presses are bad or not gonna get used, Nah, I just want one, is all.. Thank you for the time and effort put into making this video happen. AREA-419 makes allot of really neat stuff. You all should check out their website, even if you are not a reloader/loader, you never know, you may just decide, that the aluminum funnel will be fitting for something you are doing, not related to am mo reloading/loading among other items they manufacture in house. Thank you.
Great video John!! And much respect to Jon Addis on design/flow of new building..........not mention the machine envy I'm experiencing.
Fantastic Video. I watched every minute. Jon has obviously got it together. Looks like he has really gone the extra mile on just about everything. Very nice job by your crew as well John. Thank You for the inspiration.
It took me a while to get to this video, John, but no disappointment. This shop is doing amazing work.
Where do you start, very well done tour of an obviously well thought out operation, the icing on the cake was the comment "make it a place you want to work", no truer words have ever been spoken.
Awesome tour. Incredible facility. Ciao, Marco.
This is so cool!! What an amazing shop , I really wish automation , and cnc machining and manufacturing was more common in my country , I would love to work in a shop like this.
Got to check out this shop recently as a cutting tool supplier. Very impressive! Cleanest I've seen in a while
The DMG's use a analog proximity which is monitoring a long triangle attached to the chuck drawbar or equivalent.
Still have a Bridgeport and manual lathe... I love it !
when everything is d/checked and efficiently organized
not much goes wrong
You dont need Art on walls to look at - The machines are a work of Art :)
Wow... I watched and sent the file I recorded from your first cnc/NYC video. That blew me into getting started w/cnc.
When I saw this I was so pumped up for you it actually got a little emotional... I am so inspired by your story Jon, thank you for taking the time and being so giving to us trying to climb up the ladder! KUDO'S brother!!! Best regards, Seth
Excited to see it, but the youtube premier feature is lame....
Amazing shop tour.
The area ,the machines and the joy of doing what love is awesome.
shop goals!
Somehow he reminds me of Jay Pierson but it is epic to see someone grow from very little/small to this.
I see a Grob or a DMG in the SMW future. I know it bothers you that you don’t have one of those.
I can certainly help you with all things GROB!
Go grob
Holy moly only 36mins in i need a cup of tea this is great
Great tour. So interesting listening to you two chatting.
What an awesome shop. And an awesome dude.
This is a big inspiration 👍
That muzzle break that was being shown around 8:00 looks like the exact one that’s made at the shop I work at.
Great tour. WOW!!!
Best Shop tour ever!
jost watched the two videos back to back, crazy how fast he is growing his company
These shop tour videos are great. Thanks for making them.
really nice shop :-)
John I’d love to see more of your Datron Neo! Love your content! You do so much for the community!
I think he had it for a short time time make the "prooven cuts" and then the machine goes somewhere else. As far as I remeber that was a machine moving between shops. You could see if from all the stickers it had :-)
If he got another one, then I missed that
Wicked little shop i get the feeling he will be doubleling the size of that workshop in the next 24 months good work 💪👷
I am retired from 50 years of shop ownership. I find it interesting that the same weak link of the chain syndrome is still affecting how the shop runs. You go from tool wear to chip removal to part removal to temperature control and inspection. One of those will always be controlling production.
Be proud of your achievement!
Just sayin, JIM
Cool shop!
Funny seeing this beautiful, quiet DMG MORI with loud Haas lathes screaming in the background. Decent machines but they are so dang loud
Man have we come a long way in production machining with tool deflection being the biggest, baddest problem possible in 1968. I remember when they used a Fosdick tape NC to check the work of Pratt and Whitney Tape-O-Matics three axis drilling machines in an aircraft tooling shop. Just kids being kids back then. One hold-down clamp in the way of the tool and wiping the table clean. The 1959-60 technology was nothing compared to today. In those days the tape operated machines were little more than manual machines without the accuracy of trough mikes to measure distances and no where near accurate with the tape breaking and getting wet with coolant. The Fosdicks were guaranteed 0.0001 end of table to end of table, but who was the judge if the tolerance was met. LOL!
My God! This is an awesome shop.. Ney! Factory!
Caron Engineering's DTECT IT Vibration Sensor can fault the machine if a .003 chip is behind the HSK flange, to prevent scrap.
You can tell the respect & admiration. This is wonderful & honest. Thank You
👍 I'm blown away at thoughtful organization. I can't seem to get my two bay garage sorted out let alone a shop like that!
Impressive shop, looks to be some huge investments done, ten million+. Looking at their webshop and products I at first glance can't figure out how those relative few and small products can defend the investments, but they must sell a large numbers of each item, and/or they might do general custom jobs not shown in the video. I do not doubt the gentleman is fully on top of things. Impressive being able setting up such a shop in the US today, with all the competition from overseas/Asia. Interesting tour, well done, best of luck.
Absolutely amazing , i'd love to have the opportunity to rough such volumes . I could never achieve something like that at my last workplace , even tough i had the machine , i've never had the proper work for it .
Love the growth keep it up guys 🇺🇸 💪🏻
Late to the table here, but the discussion of the DT-1 at 55:43 was hugely insightful. Acceleration isn't one of the headline specs for a machine tool, but it clearly has a huge impact on cycle times. Got me thinking about why Fanuc Robodrill owners seem to keep buying them again and again.
I’ve done a bit of technician work on Grob G750’s they’re huge and awesome!!
Just WOW!!!
Thats a very impressive shop. We have an NLX in our shop too, for the type of production you I wouldn't recommend thise though. They are very slow in production compared to say a nakamura or Okuma, and you don't loose any rigidity or accuracy with thise two machines compared to the NLX's just as an example we had a job that we ran on our Mori and Okuma at the same time, we used the exact same tooling feed rates and everything, the Mori was 1:20 and our Okuma was 0:56 that really adds up over time.
Amazing tour! The thing that blows my mind away is that people are buying these products, like, I guess I just don't get it but just loading ammunition has helped finance all this stuff. Great success story! It would have been nice to see what these products do, for people like myself it isn't totally clear or obvious what these things do.
What do you mean by “see what these products do?” Do you mean the machines or the parts they’re making?
@@yianni3251 Seems obvious he is talking about the products they're making, i.e the zero. I had the same question and found it well answered by looking at their website and youtube channel. Wild guess, the zero might bring in around 20 million in revenue, that's only 16,667 units.
Amazing machine shop
Great tour! Beautiful shop! I'd do the same with my pallet racking too... kinda like my skyhooks ;)
Grob’s are so cool
Jon Addis is a very calm, cool and collected guy.
Excellent tour, thanks Saunders and team!
Awesome shop!
Please pressure this man into making a lever operated Atlas Arcalok clamp, much appreciated.
Yet another inspiring shop tour! Loved it !!!
An awesome interview 😊
Kudos to both 👍
Awesome shop! I hope one day I can upgrade to a facility like this!
@10:12 through chuck coolant!!! 😄
Definitely my shop goals someday.
sweeeet !!! iv been watching them put the shop together on the gram
SHOP GOALZZZZZZZZZ!!!! 😲
your zero press is a work of art. wow.
Sounded like a coolant cooler would be appropriate in their shop.
JIM
High tech machine dmg Mori
Is area 419 like from the area code 419 is so cool that's mine also.
Yep! We are about 5 miles west of Toledo Express Airport
I can’t believe this was a year ago!
Love the shop tours keep up the great work . do kind of wish the camera man would zoom in sometime on certain things more. but that just a very small constructive criticism. could just be me though to.
Very interesting, thanks.
Wow! This is a great video.
Cant wait
Wish u could check our shop out we take a different approach to capto tooling loading offset via a presetter
High mix low quantity they are pretty dam good!
Great shop! Thanks for the tour. What are the details on your offices white noise system? We have the same polished concrete floors and acoustics is an issue.
Great detail on this video. Love it
Amazing shop ! =)
thanks john i needed this video !!!!
That was inspiring, thanks for sharing. Would it be possible to go over costs on tours like this? For example, building costs, machine costs, etc. Grand Designs always concludes with asking those questions.
amazing my dream is works here
What sort of micro finish do you get on your machined parts? How flat do you get your parts? What is your tolerances on your parts
It depends on what the part/use requires!
Damn. I wanna work for that guy
1:15:00 I'm surprised there isn't a product that has two pipes to each coolant tank from a box on the wall. You can then pump coolant from the tanks to the box and back. The box measures the concentration of the tank at the box [one measurement]. Depending on the level, it adds coolant or water and pushes that down the pipe to the tank. All fully automated.
It's something we intend to do, absolutely.
@@area419 I've been thinking about it a bit more. Pump at each tank and a level sensor. Turned on by wifi. Ditto for water, for concentrate and for reclaimed coolant.
Then on the wall, one unit that measures the Brix. That's probably the expensive bit. Then for each connection, pipe in and a return pipe that goes to a couple of ball valves that connect to a manifold. Another option is a UV steriliser box.
So to measure. Shut all valves except those to the required machine. Start the pump and clear the pipes, then measure. The calculates are then straight forward. Add water, coolant and or reclaimed coolant to the required level by turning on their pumps. If the manifold goes via the UV steriliser you get some biological protection.
Power just goes to the Steriliser and Brix, the rest can be daisy chained with valve voltage and a CAN bus. 5 wires. Doesn't even need a raspberry pi or arduino, lots of CAN boards available.
The main box, has power supply , Brix and a pi. That can even do all the monitoring and record keeping. Even drive a web display so you can see what's going on.
You could even get a drain tank option where it drains the tank into the reclaim or even into a dump.
Done right you just daisy chain together.
Heh.... using a tombstone... horizontal... in between a main and sub spindle of a millturn... you can get some nice flexibility in something that predominantly do round bar all day long...
Awesome!
love ur tours man
This was very informative thank you Jon! Total sq. footage of the facility please
Total of 18,500sf
@@area419 Excellent thank you! Do you offer any consulting services to set up a similar type of facility?
@@jdmimportlogistics no, but for enough cash we could probably be convinced.
@@area419 Yes of course I'll reach out by email when the time is right- thanks again