Mr Rose will probably not remember a day that I will never forget. It must have been 1967/68. My Dad took me to Forbes Field in Pittsburgh, PA. The Pirates were playing the Reds. During pre-game warmups a ball rolled up to wall by the 1st base side. It was right in front of me! I jumped over, grabbed the ball & returned to my seat. Then two ushers approached and demanded that I give them the ball or else get expelled from the park. Mr Rose saw the disturbance and came over to inquire. After one of the ushers explained the offense, Mr Rose told them to go away and leave me slone. He even signed the ball that I got to keep. Forever grateful. Thank you, Charlie Hustle!
If Jose altuve gets into the Hall of Fame or any of those Houston Astros players that were involved in the cheating scandal are allowed into the Hall of Fame then Pete Rose should absolutely be in the Hall of fame. This is not up for discussion.
In 1975 I was 14 and lucky enough to be at the World Series in Boston. Watching Carlton Fisk, Carl Yazstrzemski, Johnny Bench, Pete Rose, and Joe Morgan. What a magical series that was. I was at the WS with my grandfather. He would never see the Red Sox win one. I’ve already seen them win four. We’re not here very long. Make the choice to do right by people. There is a blessing in that.
Doesn’t matter if Pete only bet on the Reds to win, if he didn’t bet on them some games it says he doesn’t have faith in his team that night and how does anyone know that he didn’t make moves during the game to help him win his bets
No way would Rose throw a game. The guy was obsessed with winning to the point of mental illness. Some of his worst moments (I.e destroying Fosse in the all-star game) spoke to his unwillingness to lose even an exhibition game).
The one true thing said here was that Rose was screwed out of the HOF when they changed the rule on eligibility. Otherwise, Rose has zero credibility. Why would someone stick up for him.
Yeah Johnny Bench, Mike Schimdt and Joe Morgan were the ones that set this agreement up for Pete Rose to get back into baseball. In fact, Johnny Bench talk about it on Dan Patrick's show back in 2018. ruclips.net/video/v_4euOWih_U/видео.html
If it's up to me, he's already in. If you've got to legislate around keeping him out, and stonewall him at every turn - he's god damned hall of famer. Pete, surely, isn't a beacon for clean and compassionate morality, I get it. But, who are we to moralize over the game's great players. If you need to block, they should be in the HOF!
Love Pete Rose!!! He’s one of the all times greats on the field ….who cares if he bet on baseball… has nothing to do with how great of a player he was!
Great player. Also, he lied every day til he wrote his book. Even then...."Pete, did you bet on baseball?"", "buy my book and you'll find out". What a crumb!
Pete's a bad guy, but so was Ty Cobb. So were a lot of the players in the HOF. However, he broke the one rule that's in every clubhouse. NO BETTING ON BASEBALL! You f'd up.
Put him in the HOF but don’t give him the HOF speech and ceremony. Don’t give him that moment on the spotlight. But put him in as he is deserving. Same with all the steroid guys. Put them in but no speech or ceremony and their plaque should say why.
There is no keeping him out of the HOF. That’s where he belongs. They just don’t want him to see it while he is living. MLB has a great opportunity to show that people can right their wrongs and induct him. Being a good person to get into the hall is what sets baseball apart. To say he is no different today than he was 40 years ago is ridiculous.
Pete is right about those in there are far from angels, I mean racism of the old time players, also the rumor (which is probably true) of Ty Cobb by his admission he killed someone? I get it Pete gambled number one sin of the game, lied, did not throw games, say what you want he did not throw them, not excusing anything he did, but I think baseball really needs to look at this with a wider lense same as they should with the ROIDS, I mean Barry Bonds was a HOF player before he turned into the hulk, and I also understand why those records are tainted too, but case by case, you can notice some bloated stats out of anywhere. As for PETE you can’t tell him you can get in if you never gamble, especially now that you advertise gambling during games and podcasts, I mean please now.
@@TheBatugan77 and there is no debating that but you can’t dictate what a player does after they leave the sport which is what they want him to do, they want him to stop betting now who cares what he does are you telling me no player now bets on games of any kind including their own sport after they leave the game? I mean please with the commissioner thinking you are going to have an 83 year old man do flips for you for an award after you used him any chance you could for functions
Pete Rose should be put into the Hall of Fame while he is alive......competition in all things is betting on yourself to win...to make the first sale, to sell the most cars, to be the highest over quota, to hit the most home runs, to score the most touchdowns, to run this highest profit margin, etc.....there is no indication or admission that he ever bet on himself or his team to lose...!
@@davidmitchell6873 Do you understand that the company is now breaking their own rules by allowing gambling in the sport of baseball. There was a reason why they never had a team in Vegas, way to close and tempting for gambling, but now they have opened the doors and let them in.
@@BrightStone-productionif you don't understand the difference btwn participants (player, or manager), and non-participants betting, then I can't help you.
If it were up to me, the Hall of Fame would only be based on your performance on the field. The character clause is always applied selectively and often hypocritically. Just base it on performance on the field. So yes to Rose, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Eddie Cicotte, Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, Rafael Palmeiro, Roger Clemens, Gary Sheffield, Manny Ramirez, and anybody else I'm forgetting. The character clause has reached the point where we have so many great players not in the Hall of Fame that I don't even know what it's supposed to be measuring anymore.
IMO, they would have to prove that Pete bet AGAINST the Reds and took steps as a manager to prevent them from winning. Otherwise, put him in the Hall. He's served his time.
In 1989, I said Pete shouldn't be in the Hall. In 2024, I now have three reasons why he should: 1. MLB's exploitation of the Steroid Era (post-strike McGwire/Sosa home run chase). 2. MLB inviting Pete to appear in the 2015 All-Star Game in Cincinnati, especially considering he couldn't attend as a fan. 3. The Oakland A's potential relocation to Las Vegas. With all that being said, there is no doubt in my mind his "lifetime ban" is truly a lifetime ban. Within 72 hours of his eventual passing, Major League Baseball will announce Pete Rose will be enshrined in the Hall of Fame posthumously, because, regardless of the gambling issues, that is where he belongs.
Mr Rose will probably not remember a day that I will never forget. It must have been 1967/68. My Dad took me to Forbes Field in Pittsburgh, PA. The Pirates were playing the Reds. During pre-game warmups a ball rolled up to wall by the 1st base side. It was right in front of me! I jumped over, grabbed the ball & returned to my seat. Then two ushers approached and demanded that I give them the ball or else get expelled from the park. Mr Rose saw the disturbance and came over to inquire. After one of the ushers explained the offense, Mr Rose told them to go away and leave me slone. He even signed the ball that I got to keep. Forever grateful. Thank you, Charlie Hustle!
They told him what to do and he wouldn't do it. What a liar.
He is still lying. It’s a partial disclosure
Who cares. He didn’t bet to lose but to win. So what
@@steve-on3234 just sayin. But he deserves to be in for his play.
put him in the hof your opinion like bucks dont mean shit
If Jose altuve gets into the Hall of Fame or any of those Houston Astros players that were involved in the cheating scandal are allowed into the Hall of Fame then Pete Rose should absolutely be in the Hall of fame. This is not up for discussion.
Pete didn't seem to want to look Joe in the eyes. He was playing to the audience the entire interview.
I am glad he was addressing the audience, I would not want to look at Joe Bucks face either.
The year after the Reds ditched Rose as the manager and brought in Lou Pinella, they won the World Series. Thats all you need to know about Rose.
He was a shit manager so what
He broke the rules. Many times. He didnt bet them to win. He bet over under. Liar. He also trafficked under aged girls over state lines
Pete should be banned for wearing those shoes.
In 1975 I was 14 and lucky enough to be at the World Series in Boston. Watching Carlton Fisk, Carl Yazstrzemski, Johnny Bench, Pete Rose, and Joe Morgan. What a magical series that was. I was at the WS with my grandfather. He would never see the Red Sox win one. I’ve already seen them win four. We’re not here very long. Make the choice to do right by people. There is a blessing in that.
Doesn’t matter if Pete only bet on the Reds to win, if he didn’t bet on them some games it says he doesn’t have faith in his team that night and how does anyone know that he didn’t make moves during the game to help him win his bets
Exactly. He put the lives of his own players in jeopardy!
Well, Pets says he bet every game for the Reds to win, so change in lineups would not matter.
He figured he would come out ahead in the long run.
He tipped off the bookies when he was managing, by not playing when certain pitchers turns to start, from which he received kickbacks.
Just bet on his team to win. Lol
No way would Rose throw a game. The guy was obsessed with winning to the point of mental illness. Some of his worst moments (I.e destroying Fosse in the all-star game) spoke to his unwillingness to lose even an exhibition game).
He has served enough time in purgatory
Who made you the judge?
@@davidmitchell6873 and who made you the judge?
Murders serve less time than what Pete has. Some even return to their old job.
Lifetime is lifetime.
@@davidmitchell6873so you’re the judge?
He's totally lying about betting on games before 1987. Terrible body language. This man is a disgrace.
So what
The one true thing said here was that Rose was screwed out of the HOF when they changed the rule on eligibility.
Otherwise, Rose has zero credibility. Why would someone stick up for him.
Yeah Johnny Bench, Mike Schimdt and Joe Morgan were the ones that set this agreement up for Pete Rose to get back into baseball. In fact, Johnny Bench talk about it on Dan Patrick's show back in 2018. ruclips.net/video/v_4euOWih_U/видео.html
This guy is such a sad case. My view: “self inflicted wounds”. He can’t/won’t seem to get out of his own way.
If it's up to me, he's already in. If you've got to legislate around keeping him out, and stonewall him at every turn - he's god damned hall of famer. Pete, surely, isn't a beacon for clean and compassionate morality, I get it. But, who are we to moralize over the game's great players. If you need to block, they should be in the HOF!
20 days a month, 4.5 hours a day is “working your ass off”?
Pete's been told what to do. He can sign autographs and sell his memorabilia in any other major city in the country.
LET THE MAN IN THE HOF😢
The HOF is a troubling organization
there is no debate Rose is one of the greatest to ever play and he should be in the hall no question!!
Love Pete Rose!!! He’s one of the all times greats on the field ….who cares if he bet on baseball…
has nothing to do with how great of a player he was!
He didnt get up on Oct 1st 2024.😢😢
I really don’t care the man could hit the baseball like no other on the planet,,,that’s a fact I hope Pete haven’t forgot that
Nonsense. Many were better. 😊
Great player. Also, he lied every day til he wrote his book. Even then...."Pete, did you bet on baseball?"", "buy my book and you'll find out". What a crumb!
You're an idiot. He bet as a manager not a player. His hall of fame career happened as a player. Don't be a jackass.
Who cares
@@steve-on3234 Anyone who loves baseball.
@@robertungerbuehler9076 then you should love the all time hit king for what he accomplished in “baseball”
Thanks Joe Buck for clearing that up lol
If the Astros get to keep their championship this guy should be in the Hall of Fame.
He should be in the hof but this is a bad analogy.
If they took away his hits that would be a good analogy.
Baseball has 1 rule, and he broke it. He should never be allowed back in baseball. If they had 1000 rules and he broke 1 he’d be in the HOF
Pete's a bad guy, but so was Ty Cobb. So were a lot of the players in the HOF. However, he broke the one rule that's in every clubhouse. NO BETTING ON BASEBALL! You f'd up.
Rest In Peace, Pete. #CharlieHustle #Reds
He bet on games ,so what he didn't throw games to loose. He's right there is no altar boys in the Hall of Fame
Which is against MLB rules. There's a sign posted in every clubhouse.
And there are altar boys in the hall of fame.
Loose? Like a horse?
I think you mean, "lose."
He tipped off the bookies when he was managing, by not playing when certain pitchers turns to start, from which he received kickbacks.
Put him in the HOF but don’t give him the HOF speech and ceremony. Don’t give him that moment on the spotlight. But put him in as he is deserving. Same with all the steroid guys. Put them in but no speech or ceremony and their plaque should say why.
NFW
There is no keeping him out of the HOF. That’s where he belongs. They just don’t want him to see it while he is living. MLB has a great opportunity to show that people can right their wrongs and induct him. Being a good person to get into the hall is what sets baseball apart. To say he is no different today than he was 40 years ago is ridiculous.
No. You are ridiculous.
Pete Rose is BASEBALL!!! Hit king!!!!
Put PR in!
Pete bet on games, He didn’t throw any games
Which is against MLB rules. There's a sign posted in every clubhouse.
@@TheBatugan77 OK
He tipped off the bookies when he was managing, by not playing when certain pitchers turns to start, from which he received kickbacks.
Pete is right about those in there are far from angels, I mean racism of the old time players, also the rumor (which is probably true) of Ty Cobb by his admission he killed someone? I get it Pete gambled number one sin of the game, lied, did not throw games, say what you want he did not throw them, not excusing anything he did, but I think baseball really needs to look at this with a wider lense same as they should with the ROIDS, I mean Barry Bonds was a HOF player before he turned into the hulk, and I also understand why those records are tainted too, but case by case, you can notice some bloated stats out of anywhere. As for PETE you can’t tell him you can get in if you never gamble, especially now that you advertise gambling during games and podcasts, I mean please now.
Betting is against MLB rules. There's a sign posted in every clubhouse.
Blah BLAH blah BLAH blah BLAH bloviating blowhard blowfest BLAH blah BLAH
@@TheBatugan77 and there is no debating that but you can’t dictate what a player does after they leave the sport which is what they want him to do, they want him to stop betting now who cares what he does are you telling me no player now bets on games of any kind including their own sport after they leave the game? I mean please with the commissioner thinking you are going to have an 83 year old man do flips for you for an award after you used him any chance you could for functions
Pete Rose should be put into the Hall of Fame while he is alive......competition in all things is betting on yourself to win...to make the first sale, to sell the most cars, to be the highest over quota, to hit the most home runs, to score the most touchdowns, to run this highest profit margin, etc.....there is no indication or admission that he ever bet on himself or his team to lose...!
You sad fanboys just don't get it.
Fanboys. He broke the golden rule. Bye petie
He wasnt fixing games, which means the integrity was never in jeopardy....
He violated the rules of the company he worked for!! Do you not understand how having a job works?
@@davidmitchell6873 Do you understand that the company is now breaking their own rules by allowing gambling in the sport of baseball. There was a reason why they never had a team in Vegas, way to close and tempting for gambling, but now they have opened the doors and let them in.
He played over under. We got not idea whether her did
He tipped off the bookies when he was managing, by not playing when certain pitchers turns to start, from which he received kickbacks.
@@BrightStone-productionif you don't understand the difference btwn participants (player, or manager), and non-participants betting, then I can't help you.
If it were up to me, the Hall of Fame would only be based on your performance on the field. The character clause is always applied selectively and often hypocritically. Just base it on performance on the field. So yes to Rose, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Eddie Cicotte, Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, Rafael Palmeiro, Roger Clemens, Gary Sheffield, Manny Ramirez, and anybody else I'm forgetting. The character clause has reached the point where we have so many great players not in the Hall of Fame that I don't even know what it's supposed to be measuring anymore.
IMO, they would have to prove that Pete bet AGAINST the Reds and took steps as a manager to prevent them from winning. Otherwise, put him in the Hall. He's served his time.
Lifetime is lifetime.
He tipped off the bookies when he was managing, by not playing when certain pitchers turns to start, from which he received kickbacks.
Wait a minute… drug abusers … wife beaters and drunks are in the HOF and Charlie hustle isn’t? Wow he should be in the HOF!
Pete Rose is a pathetic character, but he should be in the baseball HOF based on his playing accomplishments,
In 1989, I said Pete shouldn't be in the Hall. In 2024, I now have three reasons why he should:
1. MLB's exploitation of the Steroid Era (post-strike McGwire/Sosa home run chase).
2. MLB inviting Pete to appear in the 2015 All-Star Game in Cincinnati, especially considering he couldn't attend as a fan.
3. The Oakland A's potential relocation to Las Vegas.
With all that being said, there is no doubt in my mind his "lifetime ban" is truly a lifetime ban. Within 72 hours of his eventual passing, Major League Baseball will announce Pete Rose will be enshrined in the Hall of Fame posthumously, because, regardless of the gambling issues, that is where he belongs.
You never said that you liar
@@TL2354 Facts