This was and still is an excellent design of a transmission. Have operated alot of hours on 10- 20 series and even a 30 series with the synchro trans. Great video!!
Grew up driving a 4020 synchro range all summer long for my entire childhood. That pattern and how to run through the gears quickly are burned in my mind. If I ever have alzheimer's or something like that I bet I'd still be able to drive someone's bailing tractor 😂
As a twelve year old my grand father has a dairy farm. He has a 2630 with a 38 loader I think the emblems wore off but I really want to own one when I get older but one problem…. I didn’t understand how to shift it. This video didn’t really help until you took the paper and shifted it next to the paper that was so helpful thank you for helping me understand and honestly your the only one who helped me understand
My Grandpa bought a 3010 with this transmission. It took some time to figure it out. Then it was time to teach Grandpa on what to do. Dealership delivered it when no one was at home, he got the manual later.
Great video just what I needed. Just bought my Dad’s 3020 and wasn’t sure how this transmission worked. Your picture is perfect, plus explanation on how the synchro works. Thanks for teaching this.
Grew up with John Deere my whole life never understood how the worked. We always had power shift. The ultimate as a kid on a grain cart In the 80s. Wet in the fall stand on the diff lock pull the throttle down and never take your hand off the shifter. Love the video
Thank you , I worked for a local farmer ALL through high school! John had a 4020 but he always drove it , once I took over turning ground ,while he went to dinner about an hour ! He told to leave everything where it was at ! I disk an pulled wagons with an old case no cab ! I loved farming, John was a good teacher patient an understanding! He didn't have alot of land I think around 500 acres! If he had more I would have been a farmhand! Wish I could afford to buy a small farm now !
You did great explaining the shifter. I spent many hours on a 3020 doing everything in the field with it. My grandfather bought just when I started to help him. He mostly owned Massy Ferguson tractors because he got better deals and liked the dealer for service. My memories and even my grandfather admitted it was problem the best all purpose tractor on the farm. I know I spent the most hours on that tractor of anyone. It was the first cab tractor he ever bought. I liked that shifting system much better than the 2 lever Masseys. Thanks for doing the video, brought back some very fond memories during the 70's. Jeff
Perhaps You see it as an advantage I don’t. I own a number of MFs. The big difference is that the Deere has a synchronized Transmission. The disadvantage is that the Synchronized Deere has NO Multi Power ( Massey’s equivalent to IH’s Torque Amplifier but far better). It is great to have a Tractor that can be downshifted under Power. I am an IH and MF collector. However, I also understand Deere well so that I can compare Them accurately. Fergieman
That transmission was great, fool proof and idiot proof as well. It was great for shifting from heavier work, to travelling across headlands ect. Like riding a bike, it just becomes instinctive after awhile.
We had a 4010 at work. When I was hired, 5th was out of the question and 2 was iffy as both were the worse for wear. About 4 years in and extra money became available so I got to rebuild the transmission. And also rebuilt the brakes at the same time. As the tractor was used for disking, 5th was the best gear for it and why it had worn out. The brakes, well the first time I tried them after the rebuild I just about went over the steering wheel. Had to learn not to push down very hard on the pedals after having been use to having hardly any to start with. loved that tractor and the 420 also.
The Deere I used the most had 6 gears - a John Deere 60. I did use a 4010 back in about 2016 and it did not shift well at all. The Internationals don't work well after 50 years either. The old Farmalls and Deeres worked much better. Your explanation was great! Thanks!
My dad had a 2510 John Deere, and that shifter mechanism always confused me. I never got to actually operate it, so I never got to actually “learn“ how to use it. The way you explain it, makes perfect sense. When the lever’s on left your shifting ranges. When the levers on the right, you’re shifting high/low in that range. My dad used that tractor a lot for packing corn silage, so he got really good at that forward/backward business…
4 unsynchronized ranges (think A , B , C , D ranges & a long, left slot).. 2 synchronized forward speeds in each station plus reverse speed in A & B on all but the 10s.. They have a C reverse speed.. For beginners on the 10s &20s Synchrorange transmissions a yellow "grease" pen makes very helpful A, B, C, & D letters along the long slot for the range shifts.. Also designating the "tow" position between C & D will remind the operator to pull the shift lever into that position while towing the tractor thus preventing the expense of an exploded clutch, and/or a top shaft to low range pinion seizure !! DON'T DO THAT ‼️‼️
Always drove farmall 806 and 856. Bought a 4010 because of the first new generation and I like the looks. This helped me tremendously trying to learn the shifting patterns. Thanks
I asked my dad if he ever used the 4/7 gears much. He said that he used them for plowing if they where going back and forth, instead of around in a circle. You would plow in 4th, then when you got to the end, you could shift to 7th and go down to the other dead furrow. Shift back to 4th and get back to it. He also used it for pulling a grain drill. Don't need a lot of power, so he would be idled back in 7th, but if he needed to slow down, just go to 4th. There's also a reverse in the 6/8 position. But the dash doesn't allow the shifter to go that far down. If the trans linkage was disconnected, it could be put in it, but that would not be safe to do.
Had a JD3010D, had the syncro, still had all 3 original reverse gears. Now, most would have that 4/7 reverse gear blocked, those gears were small and had a bad tendency of breaking a tooth, hence why many were blocked. It's also why the majority of the 20 and 30 series had them blocked out. Wasn't because they were to fast, because those small gears were weak. We plowed in 3rd, disc'd in 4th, raked hay in 5th and or 6th. Since you mentioned "Red", I also had a Farmall 706. In all technicalities, it's really a 16 speed. Torque amplifier would give you an extra hi/lo range or rather, a direct drive and low.
Used a 4010 for 20+ years had a blade oN it to push the silage/haylage piles and to tow doubles from the field to home. Also pulled a large slinger for many years from the pit. If you know how to shift ranges you can change the range on the move. Couldn't make it out of the driveway in 6th from the bottom of the hill where we loaded so had to start in 5th and the road was a hill up so you just learned how to catch 5th to 6th on the fly. Took a bit to get it so it seemed seemless. The key was to pull past the throttle stop with the override and really wind 5th out. Then you could half shift the range and I always counted to 3 and finished the shift then into 6th then 8th
I’ve got a 3010 like this. I can’t hit the brakes. For if I do I lose all my hydraulics. I can use the tractor all day as long as I don’t hit the brakes. Some times I’ve even got to release the pressure off the left brake to get it to move. This started when I had a oil leak under the floor pan. I used a ratchet strap to pull my brake peddles forward to gain a little space to remove the floor pan. Forgot to release the ratchet strap after finally removing the floor pan. Went out of town a couple days. When I got back the replacement line had arrived. So I put everything back together. Noticed my brake peddles wasn’t up where they normally went. Thought well they’ll pump up when I start the engine. Later I started the engine and the right brake seemed to be in the normal position. The left peddle was sagging lower than normal. Got on the tractor and both brakes were locked. So I loosened the brake lines and let the pressure that was trapped in the lines out . Next day tighten the brake lines up and to my surprise the left brake was still locked up. Got on the internet looking around found out I could release the the brake by a jam nut another. Loosen the jam nut left both nut and the bolt a tad loose and tried not to even use the brakes. A few days later I adjusted the bolt and jam nut to what I remember to be the original spot and locked the nut down. While using the tractor I hit the brakes pretty good because my garage is on the side of a mountain goat path. All at once I lost everything. No 3 point no power steering and no brakes. Fed up with it I shut the tractor off . About 20 minutes later started it back up and seemed to have air in the hydraulic system. Raised and Lowry the 3 point a couple 2 or 3 times and it seemed to be getting the air out . The 3 point was still a little chattery but I did get it out of the path so the goats and deer could get by. Has anyone ever experienced anything like this . Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. By the time I get home Friday I should have the factory manual. Now that I think about it . I had a 300b backhoe book that probably could of help me understand the brake system better. If they’re about the same. I think they might be similar. I also had brake issues with it at one point Plus I’ve already changed the filter and fluid. Pulled the suction screen out and it was spotless not a speck of red brake pads
Our 91 year old farmer , Bill & I have been having fights with his 4020 as well! His 72 year old 4020 appears to be winning. When his 4020 is operating good its the most powerful diesel tractor we have ever driven! Power steering is easier than my GM 20 year newer trucks! Scary though, when I found out the steering is all hydraulic. No mechanical connections to front wheels to a gear box like our old Fords. Bill`s 4020 has a tremendous amount of power compared to our old Ford`s.We have driven it once out of the field for him & we stayed with 2nd only at a slow speed. He asked why so slow & we said we did not want to go any faster than our old Ford`s!
Thanks I appreciate it. The 4020 would have a hard time beating a 806 on a HP and traction test like plowing and discing. Those 806 generally run very well. Where the 4020 usually won was balance and nimbleness. They just handle so nice with super light steering and strong brakes. thanks for watching
I grew up driving driving 4010's and 4020" in the 60's. Very simple to use this transmission. I occasionally drove an IH with their two lever system and did not like it.
a 4020 actually has a third reverse just like a 4010 but it is locked out because it is so fast. If you grind out the slot for it, it will go into reverse.
My 4020 DOES have a reverse with 4/7-R (3rd gear range).....where do I use this range? I have a loader on the front of the 4020... when picking up hay and moving some distance (and the field is pretty smooth), I use 7th to move to a new location to pick up a bale...and then use 4th gear to actually place the bale on the trailer... and yes I will use that 3rd position reverse to back up... it is very fast for a reverse, but I do use it when in that range. Now if I'm in a group of bales in the field and don't have to move very far to the "next" bale, then I use the 2/5 gears (2nd gear range).
Thank you very much. My dad retired in 2019 purchased a ranch in his hometown and purchased the not running tractor from its orginal owner. He worked on the 4320 for 6 months and finally got her running. 2 weeks later he got covid and passed away in Sept of 2020. I moved the tractor to Dallas where I live and want to restore it in his honor. I have a video on my page to see where she sits. I will definitely reach out for help. Thank you very much!
So sorry for your lose. I think it is so cool that you will be taking over one of your fathers last projects. It will be an amazing heirloom to pass down. The 3020 in my videos was my grandpa's and what i learned to drive on. And i promise it'll be the last piece to leave. Please send me the link to your page and reach out anytime 🙂👍
The Synchronized 8 speed Deere is nice. However, as the Deere has a closed center Hydraulic system like Massey Ferguson, when the clutch is depressed and the gear train stops, so does the charge Pump in the Transmission that feeds Oil to the Main Pump up front. Massey’s Charge Pump operates off of the PTO Clutch Drum which runs continues to run any time that the Engine is running. Deere copied a lot of Hydraulic Technology from Ferguson including the Three Point Hitch ( Ferguson System ). They messed up on the Charge Pump. Fergieman
@@Corvacar yes although a lot of people say they're the best loader tractor transmission because of the 5f-5r shuttle I don't like them on a loader tractor for that reason. Hold the clutch down too long in close quarters and loose hydraulics. Thanks for watching
grüße aus bayern , germany, wir haben 2 der wenigen jd 3010 mit diesen getriebe die nach deutschland offizell geliefert wurden , fahre gern mit diesen 3010 .in deutschland wurde der 8. gang gesperrt um den tüv nur alle 2 jahre machen zu müssen. der tüv ( technische überprüfung ) hätte bei 32 km/h jährlich gemacht werden müssen. im 7. gang läuft er ca20km/h.bei straßenfahrten mit anhänger ist es störend gänge innerhalb der gruppe springen zu müssen.leider sind die gruppen nicht synchronisiert was das schalten erschwert.
Great explanation. I have experience operating the 4020 with the synchro. I have a couple of questions and hopefully you will respond. I realize this video is 2 years old now. One question I have is the durability of the synchro vs the powershift on the 3020 or any of the JD tractors that used these transmissions. Second question: Working on them how difficult are repairs on either one ? I suspect the powershift would be more complicated. Thanks for the great videos.
@Robert Owen in my opinion durability is dependent on the operator. The powershift you can change gear selection anytime to any gear and the transmission will cope with it. When it came out Deere wore out a set of tires going back and forth between between 8F and 4R so it's proven reliable. Another example Deere's biggest 40 series the 4840 was only offered in PS so they thought it was stronger than the quad range. The syncro on the other hand can last forever with a good operator or no time if they abuse it shifting. As far as repairs powershift would probably be more complicated and expensive if the time comes. Not sure never been deep in either 🤞😒. I like the powershift Alot but there are a few places I like the syncro better. It takes less hp to run a syncro so I'd bet also uses less fuel and I like the forward reverse shuttle between 3-1R and 5-2R. I just bought a 4440 and opted for the QR mainly for gear choices and fuel consumption. Great questions thanks for watching
You mention having two extra levers on an international... don't forget the torque amplifier! If you had one of those you had even more gears and levers.
So I have come across the problem of switching from reverse to forward or forward to reverse is very hard have to play with it it was working fine and I had stalled it and now the shifting problems.
No criticism, just a point, the 2010 was the only syncro in the 10 or 20 series that I'm aware of, that was 1,2,R-3,4,R-5,6,R-7,8. not sure the reason it was the odd one out.
So you can shift on the fly without breaking the clutch? I get some grinding between gears even when breaking the clutch on my 3010. I made and replaced the shifter rods and freshened up the shifter arms on the transmission. The shift selector and arm has some fair wear. I'd suppose the synchro assemblies are worn out.
Ed no that's the powershift the synchro range transmission requires clutch for 1-3 2-5 4-7 6-8 and require stopping to change ranges. Example 4th to 5th
3 minutes in and this man gave the best explanation I’ve seen yet. I know the pattern well but always like seeing how people can break it down.
I just got a 4320 and there was no diagram so I was damn near trying to drive a spaceship. You explained this perfectly. Thank you sir
lol I gotta go next month and get a 2010 from an abandoned farm. Diagram gone like yours.
That's why aliens come to earth ! To learn how to drive Synchro range John Deere s !! Lol
This really helped me understand. The way you explained it made me realize that John Deere really made a superior design. Thanks!
This was and still is an excellent design of a transmission. Have operated alot of hours on 10- 20 series and even a 30 series with the synchro trans. Great video!!
Awesome explanation! Simplified and to the point. Wish I had this video five years ago when I bought my 4020!
Just picked up a 72 JD 4020. Thank you for taking the time to explain the gearbox.
Grew up driving a 4020 synchro range all summer long for my entire childhood. That pattern and how to run through the gears quickly are burned in my mind. If I ever have alzheimer's or something like that I bet I'd still be able to drive someone's bailing tractor 😂
Grew up with a 3020 with the syncro range transmission. Could shift this in my sleep now. You described this transmission perfectly. Nicely done.
@Jackson Kloska only ten? Lol
Got hundreds of hours on one of these! Great transmissions! I’ll take one over a powershift any day!
As a twelve year old my grand father has a dairy farm. He has a 2630 with a 38 loader I think the emblems wore off but I really want to own one when I get older but one problem…. I didn’t understand how to shift it. This video didn’t really help until you took the paper and shifted it next to the paper that was so helpful thank you for helping me understand and honestly your the only one who helped me understand
Un maestro el creador de esta trasmision.
El ejemplo de la sencillez de esta marca.
Alta y baja con una sola palanca
My Grandpa bought a 3010 with this transmission. It took some time to figure it out. Then it was time to teach Grandpa on what to do. Dealership delivered it when no one was at home, he got the manual later.
@@geraldgiles388 they are intimidating at first but awesome after you figure them out.
I made an an audible "oooooh duh" after watching maybe 30 mins watching this. great job explaining stuff! you're a natural !
Great video just what I needed. Just bought my Dad’s 3020 and wasn’t sure how this transmission worked. Your picture is perfect, plus explanation on how the synchro works. Thanks for teaching this.
I just got a 4320 and never operated a tractor before. Thank you for explaining this thoroughly!
Grew up with John Deere my whole life never understood how the worked. We always had power shift. The ultimate as a kid on a grain cart In the 80s. Wet in the fall stand on the diff lock pull the throttle down and never take your hand off the shifter. Love the video
The shifter is leaps and bounds compared to the antiquated Two Cylinder Tractors.
Fergieman
Long time Case guy here. Just bought a 3010. This helps a little. Thanks!
Thank you , I worked for a local farmer ALL through high school! John had a 4020 but he always drove it , once I took over turning ground ,while he went to dinner about an hour ! He told to leave everything where it was at ! I disk an pulled wagons with an old case no cab ! I loved farming, John was a good teacher patient an understanding! He didn't have alot of land I think around 500 acres! If he had more I would have been a farmhand! Wish I could afford to buy a small farm now !
Grew up driving a syncro easiest shifter to me in existence. I prefer it over my quad range tractors
@@nickb8618 me too most of the time. Quicker from park to moving and the reverse in the quad is too fast. Thanks for watching
You did great explaining the shifter. I spent many hours on a 3020 doing everything in the field with it. My grandfather bought just when I started to help him. He mostly owned Massy Ferguson tractors because he got better deals and liked the dealer for service. My memories and even my grandfather admitted it was problem the best all purpose tractor on the farm. I know I spent the most hours on that tractor of anyone. It was the first cab tractor he ever bought. I liked that shifting system much better than the 2 lever Masseys. Thanks for doing the video, brought back some very fond memories during the 70's. Jeff
Perhaps You see it as an advantage I don’t. I own a number of MFs. The big difference is that the Deere has a synchronized Transmission. The disadvantage is that the Synchronized Deere has NO Multi Power ( Massey’s equivalent to IH’s Torque Amplifier but far better). It is great to have a Tractor that can be downshifted under Power. I am an IH and MF collector. However, I also understand Deere well so that I can compare Them accurately.
Fergieman
Good video. I have used my 3020 for years without really understanding it. Thanks
I grew up on one of those... haven't run one in about 20 years. Nearly forgot how it worked... and it all made sense again!
That transmission was great, fool proof and idiot proof as well. It was great for shifting from heavier work, to travelling across headlands ect. Like riding a bike, it just becomes instinctive after awhile.
We had a 4010 at work. When I was hired, 5th was out of the question and 2 was iffy as both were the worse for wear. About 4 years in and extra money became available so I got to rebuild the transmission. And also rebuilt the brakes at the same time. As the tractor was used for disking, 5th was the best gear for it and why it had worn out. The brakes, well the first time I tried them after the rebuild I just about went over the steering wheel. Had to learn not to push down very hard on the pedals after having been use to having hardly any to start with. loved that tractor and the 420 also.
Grew up with a 5010, 4020 and a 7520 with these. Great tractors!
I grew up on the 10’s and 20’s and never even give it a thought about the way you explained it.
I’m glad you helped out the IH boys.
Ha ha, I have a 68 3020D synchro and a 49C...I have to think for a second when I switch tractors.
The Deere I used the most had 6 gears - a John Deere 60. I did use a 4010 back in about 2016 and it did not shift well at all. The Internationals don't work well after 50 years either. The old Farmalls and Deeres worked much better. Your explanation was great! Thanks!
My dad had a 2510 John Deere, and that shifter mechanism always confused me. I never got to actually operate it, so I never got to actually “learn“ how to use it. The way you explain it, makes perfect sense. When the lever’s on left your shifting ranges. When the levers on the right, you’re shifting high/low in that range. My dad used that tractor a lot for packing corn silage, so he got really good at that forward/backward business…
4 unsynchronized ranges (think A , B , C , D ranges & a long, left slot)..
2 synchronized forward speeds in each station plus reverse speed in A & B on all but the 10s.. They have a C reverse speed..
For beginners on the 10s &20s Synchrorange transmissions a yellow "grease" pen makes very helpful A, B, C, & D letters along the long slot for the range shifts.. Also designating the "tow" position between C & D will remind the operator to pull the shift lever into that position while towing the tractor thus preventing the expense of an exploded clutch, and/or a top shaft to low range pinion seizure !! DON'T DO THAT ‼️‼️
Always drove farmall 806 and 856. Bought a 4010 because of the first new generation and I like the looks. This helped me tremendously trying to learn the shifting patterns. Thanks
New to JD machines. Your drawing instantly made sense to me. Similar to an Eaton in a highway tractor. Thanks for that
Thank you for watching
I love these transmissions.
This was the best explanation I found yet. I get it now.
I asked my dad if he ever used the 4/7 gears much. He said that he used them for plowing if they where going back and forth, instead of around in a circle. You would plow in 4th, then when you got to the end, you could shift to 7th and go down to the other dead furrow. Shift back to 4th and get back to it. He also used it for pulling a grain drill. Don't need a lot of power, so he would be idled back in 7th, but if he needed to slow down, just go to 4th.
There's also a reverse in the 6/8 position. But the dash doesn't allow the shifter to go that far down. If the trans linkage was disconnected, it could be put in it, but that would not be safe to do.
Thank you , now it makes sense the deere people must have been on hallucinogens when designing them.
Thank you. Just got my first synchro. Excellent lesson! Kudos! I'm in sync with my synchro! I think.
Just inherited a 3010. Decal pretty worn off. Great video and explanation to get me started. Thx
I'm glad I could help appreciate your support
Dude thank you so damn much. This actually helped me a lot to understand the trans. John Deere 2510 built better
Ur very informative thanks had no idea how it worked
I’m used to ford and Allis charmers lol this is a foreign language. Love the looks of these tractors though.
What ever feeds your cows and your family is the best i like jd but thats what I'm used to. There is good and bad in every brand
@@machineryd2765 100%
Had a JD3010D, had the syncro, still had all 3 original reverse gears. Now, most would have that 4/7 reverse gear blocked, those gears were small and had a bad tendency of breaking a tooth, hence why many were blocked. It's also why the majority of the 20 and 30 series had them blocked out. Wasn't because they were to fast, because those small gears were weak.
We plowed in 3rd, disc'd in 4th, raked hay in 5th and or 6th.
Since you mentioned "Red", I also had a Farmall 706. In all technicalities, it's really a 16 speed. Torque amplifier would give you an extra hi/lo range or rather, a direct drive and low.
I never looked at it that way ! Interesting, thanks for posting. (1963 4010)
Those same transmissions were also used in some of the 30 series tractors. I have a 1973 4430 with the synchro.
Great video, definitely not scared of syncro now and won’t necessarily need to get a powershift
They are very overwhelming at first but once you get the hang of it you'll love it
That makes perfect sense the way you described it
Good vid, I'd have to use it daily for a few weeks to bond that system to my brain.
Phenomenal explanation!!! Well done.
Used a 4010 for 20+ years had a blade oN it to push the silage/haylage piles and to tow doubles from the field to home. Also pulled a large slinger for many years from the pit. If you know how to shift ranges you can change the range on the move. Couldn't make it out of the driveway in 6th from the bottom of the hill where we loaded so had to start in 5th and the road was a hill up so you just learned how to catch 5th to 6th on the fly. Took a bit to get it so it seemed seemless. The key was to pull past the throttle stop with the override and really wind 5th out. Then you could half shift the range and I always counted to 3 and finished the shift then into 6th then 8th
Great video you did way better job explaining then I could of
They should have came from the factory with that diagram you made. Great explanation
I’ve got a 3010 like this. I can’t hit the brakes. For if I do I lose all my hydraulics. I can use the tractor all day as long as I don’t hit the brakes. Some times I’ve even got to release the pressure off the left brake to get it to move. This started when I had a oil leak under the floor pan. I used a ratchet strap to pull my brake peddles forward to gain a little space to remove the floor pan. Forgot to release the ratchet strap after finally removing the floor pan. Went out of town a couple days. When I got back the replacement line had arrived. So I put everything back together. Noticed my brake peddles wasn’t up where they normally went. Thought well they’ll pump up when I start the engine. Later I started the engine and the right brake seemed to be in the normal position. The left peddle was sagging lower than normal. Got on the tractor and both brakes were locked. So I loosened the brake lines and let the pressure that was trapped in the lines out . Next day tighten the brake lines up and to my surprise the left brake was still locked up. Got on the internet looking around found out I could release the the brake by a jam nut another. Loosen the jam nut left both nut and the bolt a tad loose and tried not to even use the brakes. A few days later I adjusted the bolt and jam nut to what I remember to be the original spot and locked the nut down. While using the tractor I hit the brakes pretty good because my garage is on the side of a mountain goat path. All at once I lost everything. No 3 point no power steering and no brakes. Fed up with it I shut the tractor off . About 20 minutes later started it back up and seemed to have air in the hydraulic system. Raised and Lowry the 3 point a couple 2 or 3 times and it seemed to be getting the air out . The 3 point was still a little chattery but I did get it out of the path so the goats and deer could get by. Has anyone ever experienced anything like this . Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. By the time I get home Friday I should have the factory manual. Now that I think about it . I had a 300b backhoe book that probably could of help me understand the brake system better. If they’re about the same. I think they might be similar. I also had brake issues with it at one point Plus I’ve already changed the filter and fluid. Pulled the suction screen out and it was spotless not a speck of red brake pads
Can I just say thanks. That helped a lot
I grew up running my pawpaws JD 2510. I'd literally just pick one, if it wasn't what I needed, I'd pick a different gear. I "found" reverse a lot LOL
When u drew that on the paper that helped me so muck thxs.
Me and this transmission have been in a good number of fights over the years.
Our 91 year old farmer , Bill & I have been having fights with his 4020 as well! His 72 year old 4020 appears to be winning. When his 4020 is operating good its the most powerful diesel tractor we have ever driven! Power steering is easier than my GM 20 year newer trucks! Scary though, when I found out the steering is all hydraulic. No mechanical connections to front wheels to a gear box like our old Fords. Bill`s 4020 has a tremendous amount of power compared to our old Ford`s.We have driven it once out of the field for him & we stayed with 2nd only at a slow speed. He asked why so slow & we said we did not want to go any faster than our old Ford`s!
Watched three times great video. Our 806 farmall had torque amplifier. Would loved to field test with 4020 side by side.
Thanks I appreciate it. The 4020 would have a hard time beating a 806 on a HP and traction test like plowing and discing. Those 806 generally run very well. Where the 4020 usually won was balance and nimbleness. They just handle so nice with super light steering and strong brakes. thanks for watching
DAMN !!!! THANK YOU BROTHER !!!! NOW I UNDERSTAND !!!!!
We had a 4010 and when cultivating you could shift into reverse quicker than the implement would raise....one of our 4020s was almost like thst...
Excellent job explaining 👏
Excellent description!
This really helped me thanks
your drawing make soo much more sense
We always called it the John Deere Jigsaw Puzzle
Great video great information. N well spoke
Sure do love the quad range much simpler to operate. Don’t have much type behind the wheel of a synchro shift transmission.
Good explanation 👏
4010. Here just seen your video was my grandpas. Late one I think 63 or 64. He got it in late 60s been on same place here for that time
3rd range reverse is there, if the shift quadrant is worn out you can get it in there. Ask me how I found out.
Yep
Great explanation, thank you!
I grew up driving driving 4010's and 4020" in the 60's. Very simple to use this transmission. I occasionally drove an IH with their two lever system and did not like it.
Makes perfect sense now
Great video
They also were a great transmisson for loader work, quicker than a powershift.
Yep! I spent a lot of time on a 3020 with a loader. Quick shifts from 5 to R and back. The foot throttle was nice too.
That was the first tractor my dad learned me to drive was a 4020
David Thurmond they're hard to beat
Thank you!!!
2:49 this is the greatest thing I’ve ever seen ever
I'm an international guy but the 5th reverse combo is great on a loader
I love my 1974 4230 synchro
I drove 3010 in Marion south south C .
In some of the 3020's after the shifter was worn out you could jam it into 7th reverse which was unintentional from the factory if they were synchro
Great explanation
Grew up farming with it , 4010 4020 4320 i all used there is a hidden reverse below 4th 7th pretty fast. Used 4th 7th shifting for rotary hoe work.
Yep that 3rd reverse is locked out on 20 series but if the shifter has wear like mine you can get it to go in
@@machineryd2765 yes wore or ground just a little in the right place moves pretty fast
There is actually 4 reverse gears, 3 is there but not labeled, 4 can be set by removing the lockouts and rotating the the second selector backwards.
a 4020 actually has a third reverse just like a 4010 but it is locked out because it is so fast. If you grind out the slot for it, it will go into reverse.
My 4020 DOES have a reverse with 4/7-R (3rd gear range).....where do I use this range? I have a loader on the front of the 4020... when picking up hay and moving some distance (and the field is pretty smooth), I use 7th to move to a new location to pick up a bale...and then use 4th gear to actually place the bale on the trailer... and yes I will use that 3rd position reverse to back up... it is very fast for a reverse, but I do use it when in that range. Now if I'm in a group of bales in the field and don't have to move very far to the "next" bale, then I use the 2/5 gears (2nd gear range).
Nice. My boss did not describe it very well.
You can really blow some minds when you tell them that a quadrange is a syncrorange with a high low unit
Glad i could help any ?s let me know.. they are awesome tractors
Thank you very much. My dad retired in 2019 purchased a ranch in his hometown and purchased the not running tractor from its orginal owner. He worked on the 4320 for 6 months and finally got her running. 2 weeks later he got covid and passed away in Sept of 2020. I moved the tractor to Dallas where I live and want to restore it in his honor. I have a video on my page to see where she sits. I will definitely reach out for help. Thank you very much!
So sorry for your lose. I think it is so cool that you will be taking over one of your fathers last projects. It will be an amazing heirloom to pass down. The 3020 in my videos was my grandpa's and what i learned to drive on. And i promise it'll be the last piece to leave. Please send me the link to your page and reach out anytime 🙂👍
The Synchronized 8 speed Deere is nice. However, as the Deere has a closed center Hydraulic system like Massey Ferguson, when the clutch is depressed and the gear train stops, so does the charge Pump in the Transmission that feeds Oil to the Main Pump up front. Massey’s Charge Pump operates off of the PTO Clutch Drum which runs continues to run any time that the Engine is running. Deere copied a lot of Hydraulic Technology from Ferguson including the Three Point Hitch ( Ferguson System ). They messed up on the Charge Pump.
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@@Corvacar yes although a lot of people say they're the best loader tractor transmission because of the 5f-5r shuttle I don't like them on a loader tractor for that reason. Hold the clutch down too long in close quarters and loose hydraulics. Thanks for watching
when you understand planetary gear packs, it explains the replicated pattern of the gears.
Can you do a video on adjusting the shifters. Mine has trouble going into reverse. Thanks.
Mine does need adjustment I'll try to make a video if I get around to it
grüße aus bayern , germany, wir haben 2 der wenigen jd 3010 mit diesen getriebe die nach deutschland offizell geliefert wurden , fahre gern mit diesen 3010 .in deutschland wurde der 8. gang gesperrt um den tüv nur alle 2 jahre machen zu müssen. der tüv ( technische überprüfung ) hätte bei 32 km/h jährlich gemacht werden müssen. im 7. gang läuft er ca20km/h.bei straßenfahrten mit anhänger ist es störend gänge innerhalb der gruppe springen zu müssen.leider sind die gruppen nicht synchronisiert was das schalten erschwert.
I never knew it was two shifters in one. Seems like it can reduce complexity.
Great explanation. I have experience operating the 4020 with the synchro. I have a couple of questions and hopefully you will respond. I realize this video is 2 years old now. One question I have is the durability of the synchro vs the powershift on the 3020 or any of the JD tractors that used these transmissions. Second question: Working on them how difficult are repairs on either one ? I suspect the powershift would be more complicated. Thanks for the great videos.
@Robert Owen in my opinion durability is dependent on the operator. The powershift you can change gear selection anytime to any gear and the transmission will cope with it. When it came out Deere wore out a set of tires going back and forth between between 8F and 4R so it's proven reliable. Another example Deere's biggest 40 series the 4840 was only offered in PS so they thought it was stronger than the quad range. The syncro on the other hand can last forever with a good operator or no time if they abuse it shifting. As far as repairs powershift would probably be more complicated and expensive if the time comes. Not sure never been deep in either 🤞😒. I like the powershift Alot but there are a few places I like the syncro better. It takes less hp to run a syncro so I'd bet also uses less fuel and I like the forward reverse shuttle between 3-1R and 5-2R. I just bought a 4440 and opted for the QR mainly for gear choices and fuel consumption. Great questions thanks for watching
You mention having two extra levers on an international... don't forget the torque amplifier! If you had one of those you had even more gears and levers.
Our 4010 had 3 reverse but our 4020 only had 2 reverse….has 3 now !
@@ronwhite5204 my 4320 has enough wear that it'll go into 3r. Thanks for watching
So I have come across the problem of switching from reverse to forward or forward to reverse is very hard have to play with it it was working fine and I had stalled it and now the shifting problems.
No criticism, just a point, the 2010 was the only syncro in the 10 or 20 series that I'm aware of, that was 1,2,R-3,4,R-5,6,R-7,8. not sure the reason it was the odd one out.
Didn't know that thanks 👍 never been around a 2010
Good explanation, even though I can shit that transmission with my eyes closed.
I grew up on New Gens and still run 8 of them, the 2010 for some unknown reason is:
1-2-R
3-4-R
5-6-R
7-8
It’s definitely an oddball
So you can shift on the fly without breaking the clutch? I get some grinding between gears even when breaking the clutch on my 3010. I made and replaced the shifter rods and freshened up the shifter arms on the transmission. The shift selector and arm has some fair wear. I'd suppose the synchro assemblies are worn out.
Ed no that's the powershift the synchro range transmission requires clutch for 1-3 2-5 4-7 6-8 and require stopping to change ranges. Example 4th to 5th