@@Curt-Gevert because it is inflation, and there isn't much anyone could have done about it. The inflation curve in the US was already way better than most other countries. The only reason they say it's price gouging is to convince the voter that they could actually do something about it when elected.
Not exactly.. Is much mora then that: White privileged White entitlement White trump ignorance The toxic of individualism The gun culture White Supremacy reached to black,brown ethnic groups And religious extremists evangelism Rich white supremacists
I think 2024 was the year Americans learned that Israeli civilians have more rights and benefits than they do. The fact that the US pays for health care and education for Israelis but not Americans is deeply unfair and insulting. The US should start cutting back on the benefits they extend to Israelis until they are weaned off of American dependence, while at the same time extending paid benefits and education to their own citizens. That is how you make your voters happy. We know that the US has the money to do this, they have just been spending it in the wrong country.
We do see ourselves as a class. Union and non union workers came together to vote for Trump. I'm so glad enough Latinos and black workers came over because if it was just us the media would just call us Nazis and ignore our suffering. My vote for Trump is because I'm angry, I'm hurt, and I'm tired of liberals like this guy acting like we give a shit about idpol.
@@christianboston7259 You could not have said it better. that this guy Kelly can speak for us is a travesty. He is nothing but a college elitist who thinks he can speak for us, when he is really not one of us. I did not vote for trump, but I understand people who did. I know many black people who for example did. My ex wife, her sister, two black people at my job, we all being what I would call working class people. And my son. My ex girl friend, who is black, her brother got more jobs in construction during his time in office. Also he says if we thought of our selves as a class, we could be this way or that way, tht we are transphobic and racists. . What a bunch of nonsence. Also then he calls the people who voted for Trump are just insecure. It is people like him, who thinks he knows what is best for us that make us go against him. Manhyyears ago, a woman who was part of the Free Speech movement and anit war protests of the 60's said one of their failures was reaching the working class. This guy is one of those types who dnoes not know how to reach us.
My daughter went to school in DC and stayed. She is 30. In her large friend group, only one couple have been able to purchase a house and they were bankrolled. The rest of the couples, educated two people working have no hope of buying a house. It's not just those who are at the bottom trying to hang on.
I share these sentiments. Me and my fiance make a combined 175k salary and can’t afford a house in DC, MD, or VA (greater Washington area). One has to move hours away in suburbia to find anything remotely affordable. I’m wishing your daughter the best in her future endeavors.
The destruction of the real estate markets exploded under Bush the W. The GOP fought tooth and nail to block any real corrections outlined in the Dem. Financial Reform Act. Set the blame where it belongs.
Hence why they never endorsed as a candidate for president nominees Bernie was the most alert ⚠️ 📢 listens to the cries of the people the others were halfway
@@Gnosis639 There is no law against voting Green! The barrier to winning is the working class NOT KNOWING they are the MAJORITY! 63% WANT A NEW PARTY, And 68% WANT A CEASEFIRE! If these people KNEW they are the MAJORITY, and VOTED AS A MAJORITY, Jill Stein would be our President -elect!
But but but! 'A vote for a 3rd party is a vote for Trump', remember? I've been saying 'screw the dems' for years and each time I get this screeched back at me, often with the claim that I have 'privledge' and 'why won't I think of the women and the Trans ?' I hope THIS TIME the suckers for the democrats will learn their lesson.
@@Gnosis639this is not the one. Democratic Party is rotten. It is not the one. I am a former democrat. I’m now Green. I’ll vote green again and again and I will not abandon it.
Don’t understand why the Professor did not talk about how unions were destroyed by Reagan and how this contributed to loss of “organizing” and thereby not behaving as a working class
So true, and this is the big problem for the majority of US citizens. There is no voice at the table of power because collective labour - Unions - have been intentionally and cunningly demonised for decades. Americans - in particular, those who claim to be christians and who vote for people like Trump - need to realise that humility, grace, love, and service to others are virtues. NOT this propogated individualism! If business and government work hand in glove and big business unionises, so too should working people.
I think white men didn't want to organize with minorities and women for better wages. I still remember airline workers calling their fellows, "baggage mis-handlers."
Intentionally undermined and corrupted by business so that unions would lose credibility. US democracy has been hijacked by money. To think people of intergrity risked their lives and lost their lives to preserve democracy makes one sick. @Tips4Tat
This is a lie. I am a democrat and I care. Democrats are more than who is at the top of the ticket. But you will find out about care for poor over the next 4 years.
It's not inflation. It's capitalism. It is the system that needs to be addressed. The system that gives us a recession every 4 to 7 years. We need somebody who addresses the problems not the symptoms of the disease. Some day, an intelligent choice will be on the ballot with a real opportunity to take office. I hope I live to see it. And, if not in my lifetime, then it is my hope for the future. Thank you Jill Stein and Rudolf "Butch" Ware both for all your efforts and I hope your efforts continue as of right now, for affecting change in our system. And for changing our system to something better. Unfortunately, the system as it is, fought to not only to keep you off the ballot in many states but also to disparage you simply as a spoiler. Plus, mainstream media contributed their part by making believe you did not exist. And, they succeeded. Relatively few people were aware of Jill Stein's candidacy let alone knowing about her platform. Not surprising. Intelligence is not a strong suit when it comes to our candidates, our elections, or our system
The thing is that Trump is not "anti-establishment"! Im against this Orwellian tyranny the Globalists wanna implement with my whole essence. Now the Neo-Cons and neo-Democrats have joined forces. Will Antifa and BLM still support them?
Unfortunately U.S. citizens are ignorant of so many issues. We need better education that provides truth about our history, political system, and the relationship of human beings to the environment to students and develops critical thinking skills in students. We have a vast wasteland of ignorance with citizens exclaiming with glee as they run toward the abyss.
@@JaneFleesTexas Well, the people weren't given a proper alternative under the millionaire run Democrats. Things were cheaper when Trump was president, so that's what people see, so they vote that way.
Agreed. I went so hard for Bernie in 2016. After selling his soul to the Dem party who shanked him the back, Bernie can kick rocks for the rest of his days and stfu.
Can't ever forget what I heard among employees that were working at US steel in Gary Indiana in the mid to late 1970s. I worked for a roofing company that worked inside of US steel. We roofers oftentimes shared the employee lunchrooms or cantinas, and we're always listening to the employees of US steel claiming how the jobs were disappearing. Blaming mostly automation and robotics. US steel is still up and running and production is about the same,, it's just done without a human labor force. Asking the question during a discussion in the late 70s with a US steel employees as to why the parking lots were so big and so empty. The employee stated we're still at the same amount of production as when the parking lots were full of employee automobiles.. Steady going on about automation and robotics taking their jobs. As well as the willingness of fellow American citizens to buy Chinese products over american-made products.
I am so glad to hear this guy. As a 72 yo native Californian, I have always been blown away by people who refer to California as some kind of liberal bastion, especially politically.
Everything a working person needs to live is totally inflated in price. Housing, food, health insurance, car insurance, education. It remains😢 unbelievable to me, that the government, our laws, and now it seems the majority of citizens support the ineqality of it.😢
We also can't depend on the media, polls, our fellow citizens, corporations, billionaires, or....anyone. There is no one to depend on at all - you're on your own - get used to it.
I'm 45, the government has not directly helped me once. But the people coming over the border wall I live next here in AZ get loans for houses, health care and money up front. I get robbed and to live in fear.
@@danielseagate6340 Because middle class people tend to think themselves better than working class. So unfortunately the Dems end up not using the term working class.
As a Californian, I'm more distressed by the oucome of our state's propositions than by the election of Dumpster. How could people vote to continue forced prison labor? Rent control lost, but increased criminalization of petty thefts won. I was shocked by the results... and the votes weren't even close.
There's a shift to the right happening here ... from San Francisco to L.A. Much of it is in repsonse to the crisis of homellessness. In L.A. County, the most progressive district attorney in the country was soundly defeated in his re-election bid. It's disgusting.
Having lived there, I know the Dems of LA are intensely punitive and vengeful. But that's not new. And they'd rather waste $10k on the Kamala Harris campaign than offer any support to local grassroots political orgs like LATU.
I lived in Menlo Park, CA for 7 years. My wife liked going into the city. I stopped going with her because I do not like the smell of human excrement. I do not like that criminals can steal with impunity. Rent control is a bad idea. Building owners should get to set the rates for their property.
They're too busy pandering to the Middle Class , whose favorite Game is circumventing Labor Laws and exploiting cheap , or free , Labor . Wage Theft is rampant in this Blue , Sanctuary State . No palliative in Class Warfare here . Still this State is on Trump's Enemies List .
@@andrewnelson1967If we the Working Classes did have a " Socialist" Party the Maga Reactionaries would make it's Members disappear or worse , historically speaking .
@@SDot-dp9xm😂😂😂 That 20 million Mass deportation got to come from somewhere with the budget. That means cuts. And he will "weave" that in in about a year to let the people know "I'm giving you THE PEOPLE what you wanted. WE MUST MAKE SACRIFICES FOR THE GREATER GOOD"
Right she lost because of that right to a CRIMINAL and you blame the black lady are you kidding me ! You folks will find anyway you can to not admit to your racism EVER !
this guy didn't answer the question- If people can overlook a genocide supporter and vote for her, why can't they understand how people can overlook a sexual assaulter. convicted felon and vote for him? That's a good question.
Trump didn't get more popular, 74M voted for him in 2020. Accordantly to AP numbers, in 2024 he is at 70M. Meanwhile, 81M voted for Biden in 2020 & 66M for Harris. Trump didn't win because he suddenly got more popular. The Democrat voter base just collapsed by roughly 18%. The USA has vast majority of Democrats, is just didn't showed to the posts as expected.
I haven't heard about the voter suppression effects yet. I agree with what you said. I'd like to find out where the lines were the longest, how many polling places were shut down etc. Facebook has suppressed all political discussions since the Bernie movement in 2016. I used to be able to get those details. Not any more.
@@joanturri5500 girly, it’s telling that you’re assuming it’s voter suppression and not that the voters have grown apathetic to neoliberal Dems running on maintaining the status quo.
I've been voting mostly dem for 30 yrs. This time i voted all 3rd party when they an option. Green and working class party. The democratic party gave me nothing to vote for.
No, we are not all moving to the right. The reason why Trump won is because he has so many people on the right but unfortunately for the rest of us we had no representation. That's why we didn't show up in numbers because our Democratic party does not represent us. If anything, there's a larger and larger group of people going further to the left because the left is instilled in us at birth. With compassion and wanting quality, we want to earn living wages. So to say that people are going more right shows that you are completely disconnected with what is really happening here
Actually you are the one who is disconnected. Not voting did nothing for you and it's only going to get worse now. You should shut up since you didn't do ANYTHING to fight for your self, your county, your state. Go take a nap!
'But there’s a very interesting comment of writer Meg Indurti, who tweeted, “if you are someone who was able to overlook the genocide and cast a vote for Kamala Harris, then you already understand how a conservative was able to overlook Trump’s extremism to vote for him.”'
dems got caught off guard by the fact that people actually care about palestinians, and they're pissed off there is no choice. its an opportunity they just sailed right past. same old same old will not suffice...😳🥱
Trump is good at making them feel heard. They would rather be lied to than be ignored (which is what the Democrats did.) Both parties do NOT serve the people. It’s impossible to vote for someone. We resort to voting against instead.
The Fascist is the one that rather than persuading you with convincing arguments, encourages bullying, shaming and even unconstitutional govt., powers like radicalized activist justices to force your acceptance of their view point. They run shod of your rights and view all rights as expendable and all means justified in order to enforce their agenda.E.g. that I must address a person as "they" or allow born males to compete in women sports just because they feel like women or cut off their penis. You can call yourself what you want and practice homosexuality in private but you should not expect me to participate in it against my religious beliefs like forcing me to bake a marriage cake depicting a man fucking another man.
Not the neo-Marxist parts of his speech which plays the race card. This is a great example of why Dems lost the election - we rejected intersectionality !
Relying on a party is our mistake, not theirs. What we do in between elections is what drives change. Waiting for an election cycle to start speaking up is too late. And it all means nothing if we don't vote, which is the only real reason things went this way - millions of people just didn't vote (relative to 2020). The reason the (R)s can go off the rails and keep winning is that their voters show up regardless. if you can't figure out why the (D) party keeps positioning to pick up stray (R) voters, and not moving harder left, here's why: They want people who can be counted on to vote. If we want something to rely on, maybe we could start by being a reliable voting bloc instead of copping out when the candidate doesn't feel sufficiently inspiring and then blaming the party for not being good enough, all the while losing to a person who's barely forming coherent sentences these days.
Right on! They've said that trying to unite Democrats is like herding cats. The people who stayed home weren't convinced by the message "Trump is bad." Perhaps they (and people who vote Green) need to take a course in Civics, which should tell them the power of their vote and how it works with like-minded coalitions and groups to bring change, which people in the developing world seem to understand. Also, instead of "Ask not what your country can do for you," they need to clearly state their priorities of what they want their government to do, so politicians can do what the voters want.
Democratic Party is no longer democratic.. no primaries? Then to appoint the worst primary candidate from 2020? It’s no wonder, is it really? Should’ve run Bernie instead of Hillary but no, DNC thought it was Hillary’s turn… that’s when y’all lost me..
Any Party in any Country in the world does not function correctly once infiltrated by members of the cheating organization, who or what is going to protect us from expensive Bible and fake watches sales? Only common sense.
The democratic party already started shifting further to the right, we gonna end up with 2 right wing parties, Some dem house rep said we lost because of the far left
Of course they blame "the far left" it helps make their shift to the right more palatable. Why would people on "the far left" vote for a right shifting dem party? It's so dumb. Dems and Republicans are so dumb.
That makes sense. Because it was such an overwhelming loss, the Democratic party is going to shift, because ultimately they want to win. And they will go far right, and eventually it will just be a Republican party.
She was my first choice until so arrogantly refused to have the Palestine representative talk and she refused to even meet with Muslim representatives and Tump took the opportunity to meet with them and make promises so they went with him obviously
@ that was not smart of them and they continued to disrespect Arabs and Muslims so really they earned their loss They have no one to blame but themselves
Can’t say a whole lot resonated there with Robin Kelly for me. He spent a lot of time talking about the identity of working class america and claimed that it is moving to the right. I disagree. Why would both sides get nearly 20 million votes less between both candidates from 2020 to 2024 if that was the case? Neither of these candidates are compelling for working class americans. Typically Republicans have a pretty consistent turn out and democrats have a higher capacity to turn out voters. People want progress and when the democrats sell progress well, people show up to vote.
@ yeah, for sure. But… you are picking the unusual, not the usual. Working class issues are about affordability, and economic or about worker’s conditions. Not about trans-rights vs women’s spaces etc.
the Democratic party did not abandon the working class..they do not understand the working class..the working class income is much lower than the Democratic elected parties income..when they Democratic elected officials to go buy groceries they say prices are up..but they're still able to afford the groceries without very much strain on their budget..when the working middle class goes buy the groceries they have to decide to do with not buying certain things..and that's what they don't understand.. Talk to coworker about why Pamela Harris did not get elected other countries have women as leading governments..one person said they're not ready for a woman president//then one coworker said something that's profound we don't want a woman president, Racism is so deeply interwoven into the nation's culture that it is embedded in the neural processors inside our skulls. This is true for minorities and nonminority's alike. Racism subconsciously affects the way we view other humans and perniciously affects people of color....I'm a Democrat I'm proud that Democrats use logic and rational thinking to prove their point..which means this Society doesn't think about the future they think about the now.. prove me wrong
Nina Turner is one of the most important politicians in our time, even if the democratic party won't recognize it. If they had any sense, they would have run her. She's a younger version of Bernie, and that's what the left needs right now.
In 2020 there were circa 150M voters (Trump - 70M & Biden -80M). In 2024, Trump retained his voter base @ circa 70M voters and Harris circa 60M. WHere are the missing voters?
Perhaps the 15 million or so extra Democrats who voted for an old white guy in 2020 couldn't bring themselves to vote for a younger qualified woman of colour. Racism and misogyny are apparently not exclusively MAGA traits.
I’m completely against our support of Israel, but having Harris in is still better than Trump. It’s not the same as people overlooking all of the horrible ideas and beliefs Trump is
didn’t vote for president, the two party system is an obsolete joke. did vote yes on multiple levies, public schools and libraries, and for the metro parks.
It's all talk. He's able to express their frustration and they hear that as Oh he's going to help me. Still waiting for that fantastic Healthcare plan he promised us way back in 2015.😒
@@SotaBoy4232 your just a boy so your too young, your mind is underdeveloped but you're mother kept you alive and taught you. Perhaps you have issues with her
Let's all point the finger at someone else. I bought a house, with a large mortgage, in SoCal in 2003 after being out of the country for 20 years (no credit history in this country). Two years later after a 30% increase in value I sold and bought another. In applying for the mortgage, the broker kept saying "they won't check this." Like many others, by 2009 I was "underwater." I didn't lose the house but I never recovered the losses while my tax dollars made sure the banks recovered theirs. Now we want to do it again? In the 80s the administration sold of agricultural, and other, government underwritten loans, basically in secret, to lie about the economy. After 2008, the GOP & the churches, by then the same, started a race baiting hate campaign with hate speech and images designed to promote violence which a string of Supreme Court rulings verified they were not protected speech. No one even suggested action. In 2020, a planned armed attempt to overthrow a legal government. There was clear legislation in place allowing arrest and punishment of everyone involved. No action was taken or called for. At that point, the coup became successful. The next four years of appeasement, allowing organizers of the coup to continue publicly organizing and financing the next one led to where we are today. If you want to point the finger at someone, look in any mirror.
Abandoned? They were thrown under the bus! The established interests of government and big business have become absolute pigs, and utterly self-serving pigs.
Are we talking about the working class or the white working class? Because last time I check, Trump populism didn't resonate with the Black working class. And sadly, the working class will be disappointed because Trump isn't going to fix their problems.
It resonates with ALL WORKING CLASS AMERICANS AND I AM A BLK WOMAN WHO IS ONE OF THEM THE NICE BULLYING AND TALKING TO US LIKE WE ARE MENTALLY IMPAIRED IS WHAT COST YALL THE WORKING CLASS STOP PLAYING THE RACE GAME AND GROW UP
This guy sounds stupid. 98% of Black women can vote for a Black candidate and that's not racism, but when 98% of white women vote for a white man, it's not racism. This includes voting for Donald Trump.
Yeh bro, these people mean racism only for Whites, what if any Asian, African or Eastern business owner has racist views for whites but is introverted in nature. White women married to illegals and White men are surviving for what? Neglected human rights called "marriage" ? Stupid American government and its left wing extremism... There's nothing like humanity exists and if it exists then give me a number of countries not having disputes with its border country over any issue? The majority of humans are nasty lusty wealth driven people who can make loved ones jailed for Money. That's the reality and laws must be based on realities, human psychology and the worst scenario possible.
90+% of Black women vote for the Democratic candidate in every presidential race. It wasn't because Harris is Black. They voted for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden at that rate, too.
They quote Bernie here saying "No suprise that the working class abandoned the Democrats" but they fail to point out that Bernie has also repeatedly said "Unchecked immigration is undercutting wages of working class Americans "
excellent interview . Insightful & eye opening . Its going to be and interesting Four years under Trump again . I will be watching by the grace of God to see if America & the World Democracy will hold.
It’s already gone. We don’t have a democracy in the US. We have an electoral college. And now an overt billionaire oligarchy. And Americans don’t care for each other. People have been turned against one another. It’s all by design. The billionaires have won.
Being from North Carolina, I truly miss Rev Barber's moral Monday's, in Raleigh. He was largely ignored in the election cycle, yet he is still right about so many things. One thing about him too, even as man of the cloth he also makes room for other beliefs, and non beliefs, under his tent.
She spent every waking moment speaking about the working class but here's why you're full of BS: The working class is a much smaller segment of America than ever before. More people are poor now not because of the government but because corporate industrial complexes are exploiting the _"work or die"_ philosophy we refuse to leave behind.
Stfu he was trying to avoid letting a fascist into office.. the Biden admin at least did some good things for labour. Too many dumb people don’t understand
He has never been a member of the party, he beats them in their primary and then runs as an Independent. Every time, since 1988 in the house and 2006 in the senate and all presidential races.
@@iansanford6544 He ran for POTUS as a DEM twice, shilled for them each time only speaks up when a republican is in office to sucker people back into the Demorat party, he is a worthless worm.
all these Palestinian single issue voters are going to be awfully salty when israel annex gaza and trump lets them. But hey your protest vote really helped right.
Understand some of the problems. But if they think Trump will provide them with better answers for all these problems? I don't think so. Wait till they see the effects of Trump's tariffs, if actually enacted.
Is it me? Does no one know or care to say "Corporatism" and mean just whatever they think it is they mean as they think "Fascism"? Are we so mesmerized? It is dangerous in a world of information to forget that words are signs, not political realities.
The whole gaza situation probably really messed it up for the democrats this time around. There was no way to win over both sides of that issue, so there was no way the democrats could've won. Most people only vote when there's a widespread cultural movement that encourages them to do so, like the BLM movement. This time there was the gaza thing, and a lot of the pro palestine people didn't vote at all. And otherwise, when there's no cultural movement that grabs the attention, most people are just blissfully oblivious of the goings on in the world at large, and, very wisely, just focus on their own little lives in this world of insane chaos. This guy Kelley seems to think that every trump supporter is a supporter because of every single thing that Trump stands for, but that's not the case in reality. I think usually they just get pulled in because of one issue that they really care about (this case probably economy or immigration) and then just gradually adopt all the other stances they initially didn't really have an opinion on, as is evident when they are interviewed about these issues and they obviously have no knowledge about any of them whatsoever. They just adopted the stances because of groupthink, a very human thing to do. Pundits are really missing them mark on this, making all sorts of wild assumptions about the Trump voter, when in the end most of them are just normal people with normal issues.
The low information cultivated by Trump are easily bamboozled, and they were. The Democrats, however, did a poor job of appealing to the working class. All the language was "the middle class". The middle class is doing pretty well.
We have a deeply racist country, yes. Understand how racism develops. 3 elements are needed. A clear difference between demographic groups, an imbalance of the number of people in those groups and competition for resources. Keep squeezing the working class and racism will only grow here. We are headed toward a fasciest society because people are scared. They are watching the needed crumbs that fall from the tables of the rich being consumed by those other people.
I wouldn’t want to lead this nation of ingrates either and then be blamed for literally anything that goes wrong in the next four years. If I were Kamala, I’d be relieved. 🤣🤣😭
Is it possible that it could be just a system mistake?Party primaries serve the purpose of vetting candidates. If you skip that step the result seems like it could be a flawed candidate. Seems like it would be to the benefit of the party to have them.
A majority of the American people just voted for regime change - not just leadership change. They will begin to learn what they have done in a few short months - but, I will be watching the spectacle unfold from a safe distance. You see, I didn't vote for the fascist madness - so, I should not have to experience the consequences of doing so.
@@Curt-Gevert No, I lost because most Americans are fascists and hate democracy, civil rights, and the rule of law. And, that is not my fault and I won't be around to watch the consequences of their choice. I will be watching from a safe distance with popcorn in hand.
Both corporations and government are not my friend. In America they are 1 in the same. Its always been like this. Sure there was a few time anti trust was used. That wasnt the norm.
Late to the party? The *only* politician that has spent decades actually trying to help the American people? No wonder we can't fix our broken political system- imagine the critical thinking skills required to blame Bernie for the DNC 's corruption and incompetence.
@monekibapearson5706 FBAs had better stop voting for Democrats. The relationship is 100% parasitic. Democrats have only used FBAs to help other groups.
To the writer Meg: Don't be quick to assume that voters for Harris "overlooked" genocide. With my deepest empathy for Palestinians they're not the only ones in a mortal struggle for freedom i.e. Congo, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Yemen, Iran and I think still Syria. First & foremost it makes sense that EVERY country considers domestic policies before foreign in a national election. That's just the truth. People complaining about the price of food is a serious issue. Of course not on the same level as conflicts or genocide but people can usually only deal with what's before them, not thousands of miles away or doesn't directly impact their family. Plus she's overlooking the fact, there are Americans who've stated that they don't care about something occuring thousands of miles away whereas some Americans are vocal about tax money being spent for war. Her statement just proves part of why we're in this situation. I made the sacrifice & voted for the non-dictator type, but I know my country so this outcome isn't a surprise.
It's not inflation. It's price gouging. Call it what it is.
There is no evidence of price gouging
Rachel Madow income is said to be $100,000 per day. Inflation is class warfare. Both parties fund endless wars.
Learn economics. More money chasing same goods. You print money, you get inflation.
@@Curt-Gevert because it is inflation, and there isn't much anyone could have done about it. The inflation curve in the US was already way better than most other countries. The only reason they say it's price gouging is to convince the voter that they could actually do something about it when elected.
We need to go beyond Capitalism. Leave it in the past like Freudalism and Monarchy.
The problem is that we are depending on a party that “is looking for dollars instead of votes”. Thank you
And the working class haven't been forgotten, they've been ignored by the wealthy. And there is no reason they will change their ways. "Greed works!"
Not exactly..
Is much mora then that:
White privileged
White entitlement
White trump ignorance
The toxic of individualism
The gun culture
White Supremacy reached to black,brown ethnic groups
And religious extremists evangelism
Rich white supremacists
Excellent
Then, form your own party!
@@maxmx767 Nah. Join the Republicans.
I think 2024 was the year Americans learned that Israeli civilians have more rights and benefits than they do. The fact that the US pays for health care and education for Israelis but not Americans is deeply unfair and insulting. The US should start cutting back on the benefits they extend to Israelis until they are weaned off of American dependence, while at the same time extending paid benefits and education to their own citizens. That is how you make your voters happy. We know that the US has the money to do this, they have just been spending it in the wrong country.
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Agreed. Why do not more people realise this
The US has to take care of its 51st state, its most fsvorite state.
51 st state launders money for our politicians. That’s why they are always the favorites.
"We have a class that is suffering but that doesn't think of itself as a class". Brilliant point.
We do see ourselves as a class. Union and non union workers came together to vote for Trump. I'm so glad enough Latinos and black workers came over because if it was just us the media would just call us Nazis and ignore our suffering. My vote for Trump is because I'm angry, I'm hurt, and I'm tired of liberals like this guy acting like we give a shit about idpol.
@@christianboston7259 You could not have said it better. that this guy Kelly can speak for us is a travesty. He is nothing but a college elitist who thinks he can speak for us, when he is really not one of us. I did not vote for trump, but I understand people who did. I know many black people who for example did. My ex wife, her sister, two black people at my job, we all being what I would call working class people. And my son. My ex girl friend, who is black, her brother got more jobs in construction during his time in office.
Also he says if we thought of our selves as a class, we could be this way or that way, tht we are transphobic and racists. . What a bunch of nonsence. Also then he calls the people who voted for Trump are just insecure. It is people like him, who thinks he knows what is best for us that make us go against him. Manhyyears ago, a woman who was part of the Free Speech movement and anit war protests of the 60's said one of their failures was reaching the working class. This guy is one of those types who dnoes not know how to reach us.
If you're in the under-$100K income class, you're going to have a lot more to be angry about in a few years. @@christianboston7259
@@christianboston7259 Black and Native, voted straight GOP. The Dems are out of touch.
@@bamafencer12 Black people voted straight GOP? What a complete lie. 85% of the Black vote went to Kamala Harris
My daughter went to school in DC and stayed. She is 30. In her large friend group, only one couple have been able to purchase a house and they were bankrolled. The rest of the couples, educated two people working have no hope of buying a house. It's not just those who are at the bottom trying to hang on.
I share these sentiments. Me and my fiance make a combined 175k salary and can’t afford a house in DC, MD, or VA (greater Washington area). One has to move hours away in suburbia to find anything remotely affordable. I’m wishing your daughter the best in her future endeavors.
The destruction of the real estate markets exploded under Bush the W. The GOP fought tooth and nail to block any real corrections outlined in the Dem. Financial Reform Act. Set the blame where it belongs.
Apparently, we should only concern ourselves with blue collar workers now.
That's cool. No one I know owns a house. I'm 50. Welcome to the working class.
@@obduliomoronta4820 175k isn't enough. You'll be renting.
Bernie addressed the DNC in August of 2015! Its a very important speech! They're still not listening!
Arrogance of power
It's not in their financial interest to listen. As long as they do what they're told, the donors will award them like the little sheep they are.
Hence why they never endorsed as a candidate for president nominees Bernie was the most alert ⚠️ 📢 listens to the cries of the people the others were halfway
Bernie could’ve won!!
Well, Bearnie wasn't listening to the streets.
We absolutely need a party for the people. I am so sick and tired and I know millions of people are too
This is the one. As long as this two party system exists the working class and few middle class left will never be heard.
@@Gnosis639 Amen.
@@Gnosis639 There is no law against voting Green! The barrier to winning is the working class NOT KNOWING they are the MAJORITY! 63% WANT A NEW PARTY, And 68% WANT A CEASEFIRE! If these people KNEW they are the MAJORITY, and VOTED AS A MAJORITY, Jill Stein would be our President -elect!
But but but! 'A vote for a 3rd party is a vote for Trump', remember? I've been saying 'screw the dems' for years and each time I get this screeched back at me, often with the claim that I have 'privledge' and 'why won't I think of the women and the Trans ?' I hope THIS TIME the suckers for the democrats will learn their lesson.
@@Gnosis639this is not the one. Democratic Party is rotten. It is not the one. I am a former democrat. I’m now Green. I’ll vote green again and again and I will not abandon it.
Don’t understand why the Professor did not talk about how unions were destroyed by Reagan and how this contributed to loss of “organizing” and thereby not behaving as a working class
So true, and this is the big problem for the majority of US citizens. There is no voice at the table of power because collective labour - Unions - have been intentionally and cunningly demonised for decades.
Americans - in particular, those who claim to be christians and who vote for people like Trump - need to realise that humility, grace, love, and service to others are virtues.
NOT this propogated individualism!
If business and government work hand in glove and big business unionises, so too should working people.
The working class must regroup as all workers.
I mean a more "nuanced" conversation is "good" unions.
Some unions like the Teamsters are just corrupt arms of the companies they exist "within"
I think white men didn't want to organize with minorities and women for better wages. I still remember airline workers calling their fellows, "baggage mis-handlers."
Intentionally undermined and corrupted by business so that unions would lose credibility. US democracy has been hijacked by money.
To think people of intergrity risked their lives and lost their lives to preserve democracy makes one sick. @Tips4Tat
Neither party gives a rip about the working poor. We will never have access to our elected officials until we get big, dark money out of politics.
Writing from New Zealand, because I'm so excited. Finally, most people are admitting that both Emperors have no clothes.
This is a lie. I am a democrat and I care. Democrats are more than who is at the top of the ticket. But you will find out about care for poor over the next 4 years.
It's not inflation. It's capitalism. It is the system that needs to be addressed. The system that gives us a recession every 4 to 7 years. We need somebody who addresses the problems not the symptoms of the disease.
Some day, an intelligent choice will be on the ballot with a real opportunity to take office. I hope I live to see it. And, if not in my lifetime, then it is my hope for the future.
Thank you Jill Stein and Rudolf "Butch" Ware both for all your efforts and I hope your efforts continue as of right now, for affecting change in our system. And for changing our system to something better.
Unfortunately, the system as it is, fought to not only to keep you off the ballot in many states but also to disparage you simply as a spoiler. Plus, mainstream media contributed their part by making believe you did not exist. And, they succeeded. Relatively few people were aware of Jill Stein's candidacy let alone knowing about her platform.
Not surprising. Intelligence is not a strong suit when it comes to our candidates, our elections, or our system
WELL SAID
The thing is that Trump is not "anti-establishment"! Im against this Orwellian tyranny the Globalists wanna implement with my whole essence. Now the Neo-Cons and neo-Democrats have joined forces. Will Antifa and BLM still support them?
The system is built to fit psychopaths from both parties.
And the citizens
Unfortunately U.S. citizens are ignorant of so many issues. We need better education that provides truth about our history, political system, and the relationship of human beings to the environment to students and develops critical thinking skills in students. We have a vast wasteland of ignorance with citizens exclaiming with glee as they run toward the abyss.
Whether it is Democratic or Republic both parties are AIPAC-powered...😅
EXACTLY!!!!
The Zionists are ruling the US.
@@KamrulHasan-vi8ps Sure. But unfortunately Trump’s GOP will be worse
@@JaneFleesTexas Well, the people weren't given a proper alternative under the millionaire run Democrats. Things were cheaper when Trump was president, so that's what people see, so they vote that way.
And warmongers
Now Bernie speaks up, he should have put the DNC on Blast after Hillary took him out. Put a quality nominee for the people.
Thank you. All I see here with this statement from Sanders is virtue signaling.
Bernie been speaking out - his voice is often muffled - He should have been our President - but the Democrats clipped him when he ran against Hillary
Agreed. I went so hard for Bernie in 2016. After selling his soul to the Dem party who shanked him the back, Bernie can kick rocks for the rest of his days and stfu.
@@Libertas4Ever It's the kind of "virtue signaling" that the Democratic party needs to do.
Agree. NOW Bernie speaks out?
Those jobs are gone forever it started in 1960's jobs going overseas cheaper to produce, with child labor We must move on as a nation.
It really started with dereguĺation with Reagan in 1982 plus union busting during his 8 year presidency.
Can't ever forget what I heard among employees that were working at US steel in Gary Indiana in the mid to late 1970s. I worked for a roofing company that worked inside of US steel. We roofers oftentimes shared the employee lunchrooms or cantinas, and we're always listening to the employees of US steel claiming how the jobs were disappearing. Blaming mostly automation and robotics.
US steel is still up and running and production is about the same,, it's just done without a human labor force. Asking the question during a discussion in the late 70s with a US steel employees as to why the parking lots were so big and so empty. The employee stated we're still at the same amount of production as when the parking lots were full of employee automobiles.. Steady going on about automation and robotics taking their jobs. As well as the willingness of fellow American citizens to buy Chinese products over american-made products.
I am so glad to hear this guy. As a 72 yo native Californian, I have always been blown away by people who refer to California as some kind of liberal bastion, especially politically.
I lived in CA for 7 years. Almost all coastal cities are leftists. The rural counties still possess some sense of sanity.
California is certainly a neoliberal capitalist bastion…Reaganomics started in CA
Excuse me?
Democrats run your state from top to bottom.
What are you smoking?
Everything a working person needs to live is totally inflated in price. Housing, food, health insurance, car insurance, education. It remains😢 unbelievable to me, that the government, our laws, and now it seems the majority of citizens support the ineqality of it.😢
it's peak oil - of which everything is made (food too). the future is bicycling
We also can't depend on the media, polls, our fellow citizens, corporations, billionaires, or....anyone. There is no one to depend on at all - you're on your own - get used to it.
Yup you're on your own😂
CORRECT
I'm 45, the government has not directly helped me once. But the people coming over the border wall I live next here in AZ get loans for houses, health care and money up front. I get robbed and to live in fear.
@@christopherwillhoite3535stop lying bigot!
@@christopherwillhoite3535show us the proof!
They kept talking about the middle class during the campaign, but not the working class. They do this a lot. They kept talking about GenZ.
Middle class is the working class
@@ernestclary6035Exactly
@@danielseagate6340 Because middle class people tend to think themselves better than working class. So unfortunately the Dems end up not using the term working class.
As a Californian, I'm more distressed by the oucome of our state's propositions than by the election of Dumpster.
How could people vote to continue forced prison labor?
Rent control lost, but increased criminalization of petty thefts won.
I was shocked by the results... and the votes weren't even close.
Californians should remember where Nixon and Reagan came from.
There's a shift to the right happening here ... from San Francisco to L.A.
Much of it is in repsonse to the crisis of homellessness.
In L.A. County, the most progressive district attorney in the country was soundly defeated in his re-election bid.
It's disgusting.
Having lived there, I know the Dems of LA are intensely punitive and vengeful. But that's not new. And they'd rather waste $10k on the Kamala Harris campaign than offer any support to local grassroots political orgs like LATU.
Voting is dumb.
The whole idea is ridiculous.
I lived in Menlo Park, CA for 7 years. My wife liked going into the city. I stopped going with her because I do not like the smell of human excrement. I do not like that criminals can steal with impunity. Rent control is a bad idea. Building owners should get to set the rates for their property.
????? What has the Republican party done for working class people besides block bills to help them
Remember the time they forced the republicans to vote against an inflation adjustment for the minimum wage? I don't either.
They're too busy pandering to the Middle Class , whose favorite Game is circumventing Labor Laws and exploiting cheap , or free , Labor . Wage Theft is rampant in this Blue , Sanctuary State . No palliative in Class Warfare here . Still this State is on Trump's Enemies List .
@@andrewnelson1967If we the Working Classes did have a " Socialist" Party the Maga Reactionaries would make it's Members disappear or worse , historically speaking .
Told us sweet little lies and gave us scapegoats?
And yet for some reason people still vote them in.
Kamala and Liz Cheney finally have time to hang out together since they are both unemployed now.
Lol you will be in a year 🫡
@@SDot-dp9xm😂😂😂
That 20 million Mass deportation got to come from somewhere with the budget. That means cuts. And he will "weave" that in in about a year to let the people know "I'm giving you THE PEOPLE what you wanted. WE MUST MAKE SACRIFICES FOR THE GREATER GOOD"
@@Libertas4Ever yup
Right she lost because of that right to a CRIMINAL and you blame the black lady are you kidding me ! You folks will find anyway you can to not admit to your racism EVER !
@@snipervictim He's not the criminal, she is.
And just wait until they start investigating Nancy Pelosi's crooked deals.
this guy didn't answer the question- If people can overlook a genocide supporter and vote for her, why can't they understand how people can overlook a sexual assaulter. convicted felon and vote for him? That's a good question.
Trump didn't get more popular, 74M voted for him in 2020. Accordantly to AP numbers, in 2024 he is at 70M. Meanwhile, 81M voted for Biden in 2020 & 66M for Harris. Trump didn't win because he suddenly got more popular. The Democrat voter base just collapsed by roughly 18%. The USA has vast majority of Democrats, is just didn't showed to the posts as expected.
I haven't heard about the voter suppression effects yet. I agree with what you said. I'd like to find out where the lines were the longest, how many polling places were shut down etc. Facebook has suppressed all political discussions since the Bernie movement in 2016. I used to be able to get those details. Not any more.
It looks like about 2 million voted 3rd party but still a lot of people who either didn't show up or their votes were tossed/supressed
@@joanturri5500 girly, it’s telling that you’re assuming it’s voter suppression and not that the voters have grown apathetic to neoliberal Dems running on maintaining the status quo.
I've been voting mostly dem for 30 yrs. This time i voted all 3rd party when they an option. Green and working class party. The democratic party gave me nothing to vote for.
She offered no change from biden & cosplayed as a republican. This suppressed turnout by the base.
And since when trump became the voice of the workers?? You media are all stupid!
No, we are not all moving to the right. The reason why Trump won is because he has so many people on the right but unfortunately for the rest of us we had no representation. That's why we didn't show up in numbers because our Democratic party does not represent us. If anything, there's a larger and larger group of people going further to the left because the left is instilled in us at birth. With compassion and wanting quality, we want to earn living wages. So to say that people are going more right shows that you are completely disconnected with what is really happening here
The Dems offer nothing to working class people, the Republicans offer comforting lies. People want to live comfortably more than anything.
The left went too far and too woke!!! I’m sick of the leftist lies and propaganda. Trump 2024
Actually you are the one who is disconnected. Not voting did nothing for you and it's only going to get worse now. You should shut up since you didn't do ANYTHING to fight for your self, your county, your state. Go take a nap!
@SassyDivine22 The Dems need to earn votes. The rise of fascism is because the democratic party refuses to make concessions to the working class.
'But there’s a very interesting comment of writer Meg Indurti, who tweeted, “if you are someone who was able to overlook the genocide and cast a vote for Kamala Harris, then you already understand how a conservative was able to overlook Trump’s extremism to vote for him.”'
Where is genocide going on?
dems got caught off guard by the fact that people actually care about palestinians, and they're pissed off there is no choice. its an opportunity they just sailed right past. same old same old will not suffice...😳🥱
Both parties support the genocide.
But the working class will be worse off with Trump, even though Democrats have abandoned them.
Another reason why so many of us don't vote.
Democrats never abandoned anyone but the socialist Bernie.
Trump is good at making them feel heard. They would rather be lied to than be ignored (which is what the Democrats did.) Both parties do NOT serve the people. It’s impossible to vote for someone. We resort to voting against instead.
I actually think that the Party that SHOULD BE abandoned is the Republican Party.
The Fascist is the one that rather than persuading you with convincing arguments, encourages bullying, shaming and even unconstitutional govt., powers like radicalized activist justices to force your acceptance of their view point. They run shod of your rights and view all rights as expendable and all means justified in order to enforce their agenda.E.g. that I must address a person as "they" or allow born males to compete in women sports just because they feel like women or cut off their penis. You can call yourself what you want and practice homosexuality in private but you should not expect me to participate in it against my religious beliefs like forcing me to bake a marriage cake depicting a man fucking another man.
Both should because both are corrupt
So, Trump is helping working-class people?
Yes, the Reps represent the middle class and the Dems represent the poor , undocumented and the rich .
Things have changed.
Lucid analysis. Thank you for having both of these guest on the show!
Not the neo-Marxist parts of his speech which plays the race card. This is a great example of why Dems lost the election - we rejected intersectionality !
Relying on a party is our mistake, not theirs. What we do in between elections is what drives change. Waiting for an election cycle to start speaking up is too late. And it all means nothing if we don't vote, which is the only real reason things went this way - millions of people just didn't vote (relative to 2020).
The reason the (R)s can go off the rails and keep winning is that their voters show up regardless. if you can't figure out why the (D) party keeps positioning to pick up stray (R) voters, and not moving harder left, here's why: They want people who can be counted on to vote.
If we want something to rely on, maybe we could start by being a reliable voting bloc instead of copping out when the candidate doesn't feel sufficiently inspiring and then blaming the party for not being good enough, all the while losing to a person who's barely forming coherent sentences these days.
Right on!
They've said that trying to unite Democrats is like herding cats. The people who stayed home weren't convinced by the message "Trump is bad." Perhaps they (and people who vote Green) need to take a course in Civics, which should tell them the power of their vote and how it works with like-minded coalitions and groups to bring change, which people in the developing world seem to understand. Also, instead of "Ask not what your country can do for you," they need to clearly state their priorities of what they want their government to do, so politicians can do what the voters want.
Because the Republican Party appeals to its base, the Democrat Party tries to shame its base into voting for them
Democratic Party is no longer democratic.. no primaries? Then to appoint the worst primary candidate from 2020? It’s no wonder, is it really?
Should’ve run Bernie instead of Hillary but no, DNC thought it was Hillary’s turn… that’s when y’all lost me..
I agree
Any Party in any Country in the world does not function correctly once infiltrated by members of the cheating organization, who or what is going to protect us from expensive Bible and fake watches sales? Only common sense.
The democratic party already started shifting further to the right, we gonna end up with 2 right wing parties,
Some dem house rep said we lost because of the far left
That could very well be true. It does make sense.
Of course they blame "the far left" it helps make their shift to the right more palatable. Why would people on "the far left" vote for a right shifting dem party? It's so dumb. Dems and Republicans are so dumb.
That makes sense. Because it was such an overwhelming loss, the Democratic party is going to shift, because ultimately they want to win. And they will go far right, and eventually it will just be a Republican party.
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You already have 2 right wing parties, or one uniparty, depending on how you look at it.
Please give Reverend Barber plenty of time tomorrow! We need to hear him!
She was my first choice until so arrogantly refused to have the Palestine representative talk and she refused to even meet with Muslim representatives and Tump took the opportunity to meet with them and make promises so they went with him obviously
worse, see those she chose to have instead
That moment from the convention was a turning point for me, too.
Same.
Agreed. Such ineptitude.
@ that was not smart of them and they continued to disrespect Arabs and Muslims so really they earned their loss They have no one to blame but themselves
What did Trump say to make yall think he was for the working class?
Fascism is pretty mainstream.
American Solidarity Party. Pro-worker. Pro-family.
Can’t say a whole lot resonated there with Robin Kelly for me. He spent a lot of time talking about the identity of working class america and claimed that it is moving to the right. I disagree. Why would both sides get nearly 20 million votes less between both candidates from 2020 to 2024 if that was the case? Neither of these candidates are compelling for working class americans. Typically Republicans have a pretty consistent turn out and democrats have a higher capacity to turn out voters. People want progress and when the democrats sell progress well, people show up to vote.
He has to blame whitey. Nothing about millions of minority folks who stayed home.
Be prepared for higher prices on all goods.
Transphobia isn’t a working class issue. Robin D.G. Kelly is confused.
I'm sure there trans people who are working class and working class. People have trans children or other family members or friends
@ yeah, for sure. But… you are picking the unusual, not the usual. Working class issues are about affordability, and economic or about worker’s conditions. Not about trans-rights vs women’s spaces etc.
the Democratic party did not abandon the working class..they do not understand the working class..the working class income is much lower than the Democratic elected parties income..when they Democratic elected officials to go buy groceries they say prices are up..but they're still able to afford the groceries without very much strain on their budget..when the working middle class goes buy the groceries they have to decide to do with not buying certain things..and that's what they don't understand..
Talk to coworker about why Pamela Harris did not get elected other countries have women as leading governments..one person said they're not ready for a woman president//then one coworker said something that's profound we don't want a woman president, Racism is so deeply interwoven into the nation's culture that it is embedded in the neural processors inside our skulls. This is true for minorities and nonminority's alike. Racism subconsciously affects the way we view other humans and perniciously affects people of color....I'm a Democrat I'm proud that Democrats use logic and rational thinking to prove their point..which means this Society doesn't think about the future they think about the now..
prove me wrong
Nina Turner is one of the most important politicians in our time, even if the democratic party won't recognize it. If they had any sense, they would have run her. She's a younger version of Bernie, and that's what the left needs right now.
She's a woman of color, but she's too smart and outspoken for their liking. They prefer and select puppets, and what's worse, dumb unpleasant puppets
So many of these political commentators who have 20/20 vision in hindsight were crickets before election day.
The Republicans are no better!!!!!!
What happened to the Democratic party? Weren't they suppose to help the working class people?
In 2020 there were circa 150M voters (Trump - 70M & Biden -80M). In 2024, Trump retained his voter base @ circa 70M voters and Harris circa 60M. WHere are the missing voters?
They say it out because they believe they are safe from whatever is coming.
Perhaps the 15 million or so extra Democrats who voted for an old white guy in 2020 couldn't bring themselves to vote for a younger qualified woman of colour.
Racism and misogyny are apparently not exclusively MAGA traits.
The records show that 20 million registered Democrats stayed home😢
Wonderful interview, thank you everyone involved. Will certainly be looking into the books written by Robin DG Kelley.
Okay we can't rely on the democratic party. What are our options?
Seriously? Force third parties or ranked choice voting.
Be brave enough to vote third party and don't listen to the talking heads on the internet that shame people for doing so.
Listen to alternative media to learn about independent candidates. Major media is corporate owned, biased and lacks what you really need to know.
Most people are drones.I'm thinking the only option is to "watch" this happen.
We all see the oligarchy and uniparty and yet we do nothing
@@BOBBRADLY-mc1lb was that "Go trump-I'm stupid" or something else?
I’m completely against our support of Israel, but having Harris in is still better than Trump. It’s not the same as people overlooking all of the horrible ideas and beliefs Trump is
Thank you. Sad and true
didn’t vote for president, the two party system is an obsolete joke. did vote yes on multiple levies, public schools and libraries, and for the metro parks.
I say “identity politics “! We shall see if Trump does anything for the “working class “.
I’m not even going to try holding my breath on that one.
It's all talk. He's able to express their frustration and they hear that as Oh he's going to help me. Still waiting for that fantastic Healthcare plan he promised us way back in 2015.😒
@@joanturri5500 his concepts of a plan might become a plan now that he's going to be president 🙃
Build class consciousness NOW!
Yup. That's what we need. Working class solidarity.
She said nothing about equal justice during her campaign, I wonder why ?
In this country women can vote for control over their own bodies while voting for politicians that voted to take it away from them. And they did
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Abortion right is really more than just that.
Y'all shouldn't be allowed to vote to begin with.
@@SotaBoy4232 your just a boy so your too young, your mind is underdeveloped but you're mother kept you alive and taught you. Perhaps you have issues with her
@@alicejyi4705 yeah it's a political football taken over by a party that wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire
Kamala Harris have enough time to go and help Israel 🇮🇱
Yes if genocide is no red line for you if you can vote for Harris, why would anything Trump did or say be a red line for his supporters.
It’s been said again and again. Americans don’t care about what happens overseas . Trying to pin this on Gaza is dumb.
Let's all point the finger at someone else. I bought a house, with a large mortgage, in SoCal in 2003 after being out of the country for 20 years (no credit history in this country). Two years later after a 30% increase in value I sold and bought another. In applying for the mortgage, the broker kept saying "they won't check this." Like many others, by 2009 I was "underwater." I didn't lose the house but I never recovered the losses while my tax dollars made sure the banks recovered theirs. Now we want to do it again? In the 80s the administration sold of agricultural, and other, government underwritten loans, basically in secret, to lie about the economy. After 2008, the GOP & the churches, by then the same, started a race baiting hate campaign with hate speech and images designed to promote violence which a string of Supreme Court rulings verified they were not protected speech. No one even suggested action. In 2020, a planned armed attempt to overthrow a legal government. There was clear legislation in place allowing arrest and punishment of everyone involved. No action was taken or called for. At that point, the coup became successful. The next four years of appeasement, allowing organizers of the coup to continue publicly organizing and financing the next one led to where we are today. If you want to point the finger at someone, look in any mirror.
Both parties are just in it for their pockets we need something else
Forcing prisoners to risk their lives in wild fires, if that isn’t‘cruel and unusual punishment’ then what the heck is?
Wtf are you talking about? It's voluntary.
The Democratic Party needs a major overhaul.
People without papers who don’t contribute to our income tax fund are treated better than U.S. citizens.
@@Sandra-o3e & that's the fault of the republicvnts & corpo democrats. You want to be treated better, VOTE FOR PROGRESSIVES.
Abandoned? They were thrown under the bus! The established interests of government and big business have become absolute pigs, and utterly self-serving pigs.
Are we talking about the working class or the white working class? Because last time I check, Trump populism didn't resonate with the Black working class. And sadly, the working class will be disappointed because Trump isn't going to fix their problems.
They will find some way to blame the Democrats, even as the GOP ends the Constitution right in front of their faces.
It resonated with 72,983,574 people for the popular vote.
@@Curt-Gevert Yes, which is why I'm leaving. I do not want to live among people who would choose fascism over democracy.
It resonates with ALL WORKING CLASS AMERICANS AND I AM A BLK WOMAN WHO IS ONE OF THEM
THE NICE BULLYING AND TALKING TO US LIKE WE ARE MENTALLY IMPAIRED
IS WHAT COST YALL THE WORKING CLASS STOP PLAYING THE RACE GAME AND GROW UP
@@richardowens9061 You're lying about fascism, that is why you lost. Calling your neighbors fascists is no way to win their hearts and minds.
Thank you
I am speaking. What about the Palestinian women???
This guy sounds stupid. 98% of Black women can vote for a Black candidate and that's not racism, but when 98% of white women vote for a white man, it's not racism. This includes voting for Donald Trump.
Yeh bro, these people mean racism only for Whites, what if any Asian, African or Eastern business owner has racist views for whites but is introverted in nature. White women married to illegals and White men are surviving for what? Neglected human rights called "marriage" ? Stupid American government and its left wing extremism... There's nothing like humanity exists and if it exists then give me a number of countries not having disputes with its border country over any issue? The majority of humans are nasty lusty wealth driven people who can make loved ones jailed for Money. That's the reality and laws must be based on realities, human psychology and the worst scenario possible.
90+% of Black women vote for the Democratic candidate in every presidential race. It wasn't because Harris is Black. They voted for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden at that rate, too.
Jill Stein exposed the Dems but people didn't care. Now people are angry, afraid, and pointing the finger at each other like the Spiderman meme.
Did you tell the Palestinian women and children what they could do with their bodies?
They quote Bernie here saying "No suprise that the working class abandoned the Democrats" but they fail to point out that Bernie has also repeatedly said "Unchecked immigration is undercutting wages of working class Americans "
What a fool 😂😂😂and black people voted for Kamala, and so what's his point?
excellent interview . Insightful & eye opening . Its going to be and interesting Four years under Trump again . I will be watching by the grace of God to see if America & the World Democracy will hold.
It’s already gone. We don’t have a democracy in the US. We have an electoral college. And now an overt billionaire oligarchy. And Americans don’t care for each other. People have been turned against one another. It’s all by design. The billionaires have won.
Being from North Carolina, I truly miss Rev Barber's moral Monday's, in Raleigh. He was largely ignored in the election cycle, yet he is still right about so many things. One thing about him too, even as man of the cloth he also makes room for other beliefs, and non beliefs, under his tent.
NO ONE WILL TELL ME WHERE HAS OUR VICE PRESIDENT BEEN FOR THE 1st 3 YEARS of THEIR TERM
No one knows lol, it doesn't matter either.
She spent every waking moment speaking about the working class but here's why you're full of BS: The working class is a much smaller segment of America than ever before. More people are poor now not because of the government but because corporate industrial complexes are exploiting the _"work or die"_ philosophy we refuse to leave behind.
Not happy about Trump but it’s great that this pillhead didn’t win
Bernie was a better pick.
Sanders calls out HIMSELF how cute. 😼
Stfu he was trying to avoid letting a fascist into office.. the Biden admin at least did some good things for labour. Too many dumb people don’t understand
He has never been a member of the party, he beats them in their primary and then runs as an Independent. Every time, since 1988 in the house and 2006 in the senate and all presidential races.
@@iansanford6544
He ran for POTUS as a DEM twice, shilled for them each time only speaks up when a republican is in office to sucker people back into the Demorat party, he is a worthless worm.
Excelent comments from Robin
all these Palestinian single issue voters are going to be awfully salty when israel annex gaza and trump lets them. But hey your protest vote really helped right.
Understand some of the problems. But if they think Trump will provide them with better answers for all these problems? I don't think so. Wait till they see the effects of Trump's tariffs, if actually enacted.
US no more
Good.
Is it me?
Does no one know or care to say "Corporatism" and mean just whatever they think it is they mean as they think "Fascism"?
Are we so mesmerized?
It is dangerous in a world of information to forget that words are signs, not political realities.
The whole gaza situation probably really messed it up for the democrats this time around. There was no way to win over both sides of that issue, so there was no way the democrats could've won. Most people only vote when there's a widespread cultural movement that encourages them to do so, like the BLM movement. This time there was the gaza thing, and a lot of the pro palestine people didn't vote at all. And otherwise, when there's no cultural movement that grabs the attention, most people are just blissfully oblivious of the goings on in the world at large, and, very wisely, just focus on their own little lives in this world of insane chaos.
This guy Kelley seems to think that every trump supporter is a supporter because of every single thing that Trump stands for, but that's not the case in reality. I think usually they just get pulled in because of one issue that they really care about (this case probably economy or immigration) and then just gradually adopt all the other stances they initially didn't really have an opinion on, as is evident when they are interviewed about these issues and they obviously have no knowledge about any of them whatsoever. They just adopted the stances because of groupthink, a very human thing to do. Pundits are really missing them mark on this, making all sorts of wild assumptions about the Trump voter, when in the end most of them are just normal people with normal issues.
The low information cultivated by Trump are easily bamboozled, and they were. The Democrats, however, did a poor job of appealing to the working class. All the language was "the middle class". The middle class is doing pretty well.
Gaza had little to do with it, other than we are sick of paying for all these dumb wars.
many if not most hold deep negative views of people of color and will always vote against the rise of people of color in the political arena.
@@YiaMdj yep! This right here. Thank you for your clear-sightedness.
The immigrants are being scapegoated. I refuse to blame poor people with no power for the problems in the US.
We have a deeply racist country, yes.
Understand how racism develops. 3 elements are needed. A clear difference between demographic groups, an imbalance of the number of people in those groups and competition for resources.
Keep squeezing the working class and racism will only grow here. We are headed toward a fasciest society because people are scared. They are watching the needed crumbs that fall from the tables of the rich being consumed by those other people.
Conceding without investigating is naive when the convict speaks lie after lie.
@@rkeller8141 Name the lie? You realize making things up is why you lost the election right?
I wouldn’t want to lead this nation of ingrates either and then be blamed for literally anything that goes wrong in the next four years. If I were Kamala, I’d be relieved. 🤣🤣😭
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She did not abandon the working class. The American people will now get the change they wanted. Enjoy it.
Is it possible that it could be just a system mistake?Party primaries serve the purpose of vetting candidates. If you skip that step the result seems like it could be a flawed candidate. Seems like it would be to the benefit of the party to have them.
If kamala were a patriot she would have turned down the nomination and demanded a primary.
Yeah maybe don’t cancel primaries and put up and old man that’s hated
It seems the democrats are abandoning the primaries and doing just elites selecting their candidates. It portends for more losses in the future.
It 100% was a flawed candidate who did not go through a primary system
The elites select the candidate. Not the party members
Welp, people will find out what they voted for. Def don’t want to hear them complain about things as they chose this path
A majority of the American people just voted for regime change - not just leadership change. They will begin to learn what they have done in a few short months - but, I will be watching the spectacle unfold from a safe distance. You see, I didn't vote for the fascist madness - so, I should not have to experience the consequences of doing so.
This happened in his first term, but this time it will be worse. The collective amnesia is astonishing.
Calling this 'fascist madness' is why you lost.
@@Curt-Gevert No, I lost because most Americans are fascists and hate democracy, civil rights, and the rule of law. And, that is not my fault and I won't be around to watch the consequences of their choice. I will be watching from a safe distance with popcorn in hand.
@@Curt-Gevert I was not running for office. I merely voted against fascism - we ALL lost.
America voted the fascist out.
Both corporations and government are not my friend. In America they are 1 in the same. Its always been like this. Sure there was a few time anti trust was used. That wasnt the norm.
All the Jill Stein and PSL supporters were correct all along lmao
Excellent comments by this scholar.
Wasn't that the same Bernie Sanders that was urging voters to vote for Vice president Harris?
Lesser of two evils. That’s a lazy whataboutism argument you just brought up.
Correct.
He's a hypocrite and a total phony.
@@ObiamajoyisrmdLesser of two evils is still evil.
No one abandon the working class! What we have is an uneducated class! Please read folks!!!
Bernie, a little late to the party. Now trying to save his constituents
Late to the party? The *only* politician that has spent decades actually trying to help the American people?
No wonder we can't fix our broken political system- imagine the critical thinking skills required to blame Bernie for the DNC 's corruption and incompetence.
An absence of cohesion? It seems like the swaths of votes suggests cohesion 🤷♂️
" The Democrats gotta stop disrespecting Foundational Black Americans!"
Are y'all being paid for this or what? 😂😂😂
@monekibapearson5706
FBAs had better stop voting for Democrats. The relationship is 100% parasitic. Democrats have only used FBAs to help other groups.
"Take 11 fools on one side ,
10 philosophers on the other... the fools will prevail.
That's democracy! "
Jacques Brel
To the writer Meg: Don't be quick to assume that voters for Harris "overlooked" genocide. With my deepest empathy for Palestinians they're not the only ones in a mortal struggle for freedom i.e. Congo, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Yemen, Iran and I think still Syria. First & foremost it makes sense that EVERY country considers domestic policies before foreign in a national election. That's just the truth. People complaining about the price of food is a serious issue. Of course not on the same level as conflicts or genocide but people can usually only deal with what's before them, not thousands of miles away or doesn't directly impact their family.
Plus she's overlooking the fact, there are Americans who've stated that they don't care about something occuring thousands of miles away whereas some Americans are vocal about tax money being spent for war. Her statement just proves part of why we're in this situation.
I made the sacrifice & voted for the non-dictator type, but I know my country so this outcome isn't a surprise.
Again, spot on analysis.