Converts Not Welcome
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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As a black Muslim revert. I didn't convert to be accepted by anyone but Allah SWT. Alhamdulillah Allah has given me strength of heart and the wisdom not to leave his protection bcs of ignorant people who only inherited a Muslim name snd muskim clothes but not the heart of a muslim.
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Allahu Akbar. That's the spirit. Screw what this world thinks. Our reward is not here, its with the Owner in Heaven.
Disclaimer: This is a work of FICTION. The mosque in the film does NOT exist. For studies related to anti-Black racism and convert experience, check links in the description.
Great film and message, well done.
That's good, i wonder why the mosque also hated polish
@@bosbanon3452 Brexit anti-european campaign.
Racism is so real its one the most painful thing in this world. As a black revert woman it pains me that wit this beautiful religion ppl still do it. Even as our Prophet(saw) made it a point to address it ppl still do it. I studied my degree in Cape town South Africa. My love for Islam started there people there r wonderful. The racial diversity within Muslim community is so big.
To make long story short I revert years later. In a new place after meeting a wonderful Arab men.
Now I live in a new town most Muslims here r of Pakistani origin. They never greet back, they r so unwelcoming.
I'm sorry you're experiencing that. When I come across such ungodly people, I tell myself that they probably go to a different mosque. The masjid Abu Jahl. Everyone has a different mahdab, right? What pains me when I talk about the issue, it's people who deny racism is real I think they are the worst
You can come to Turkey but we’re not a Religious country just you’ll receive less discrimination in provinces like Konya
Honestly this is saddening, the significant amount of people that are in brink of leaving Islam is because of these toxic Muslims. I use Reddit and i see some of those posts like that frequently in r/MuslimLounge.
Huge props to you for sticking with Islam and knowing that Muslims don't represent Islam at all even during your worse times. May Allah make it easy for us and guide those that are struggling.
Thank you! I'm hopeful we can change things by doing the right thing
We certainly can! We just have to take care of these people both online and in real life. We have to teach Muslims that everyone are on their own journey, being haram police everytime is not okay. There's time and wisdom. The way they are preaching Islam is going to backfire. We have to be considerate and kind like our Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him.)
I am Arab, Muslim, living in an Arab Muslim country, and I feel the same.
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish. Someone asked: Will that be because of our small numbers at that time? He replied: No, you will be numerous at that time: but you will be scum and rubbish like that carried down by a torrent, and Allah will take fear of you from the breasts of your enemy and last enervation into your hearts. Someone asked: What is wahn (enervation). Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): He replied: Love of the world and dislike of death.
It's really scary
Such an important topic to discuss, this is a huge barrier to dawah and new Muslim development
Jazakallahkhair Ikhwan
"O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another" There is nothing wrong in each people having theor own homeland and separate places. Yes in the UK I understand its quite mixed these days and racism is bad. But this happens in moxed societies
"No Arab has any superiority over a non-Arab & vice-versa and nor a White has any superiority over a Black & vice-versa" the last sermon of Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon him). The Islamic state of Medina strictly forbade any sort of racism which is now rampant among Muslims because Muslims are far away from even the basic tenants of Islam. Hazrat Bilal (May Allah Subhananahuwatala be pleased with him), a Black convert, was called ya Syedy by the Caliphs, Usama Bin Zayed (May Allah Subhananahuwatala be pleased with him) was one of the first generals of African descent in Rashidun military. But now we hear this sort of toxic racism which Dr. William is referring to, the nationalistic, race based undertones which classifies predominantly White Anglo-Saxon converts as desirable Muslims but reject Black & Slavic Poles as undesirable. While this might be a distant reality, I have heard from an Indian that there are many caste based classifications among Indian Muslims as well, which I haven't heard of elsewhere, directly inspired from the Hindu caste based system. If things go down the road in this fashion & no one stop this madness to include everyone, I fear that Islam in Europe will be divided on communal lines just as Orthodox Christianity is.
100% On point!
@@williambarylo- Uniquely, the Qur'an identifies the very first racist - [7 : 12]
Over the last century, the world in general has moved away from meta 'cultures' such as religion and nationalism, to a plethora of 'subcultures.' Technological advance has brought about a new paradigm where consumer identity is everything. Social media has put this whole thing on steroids.
Islam is a practice of drawing closer to God. Most people 'joining' a club for community will be disappointed. To satiate their thirst they will bury themselves in In-Group / Out-Group polemics, to allow themselves to feel a part of something. That is what is happening in the political sphere, as much for the tag 'Muslim' as the tag 'British'. Everyone feels alienated from each other, a sense of loss, and yearns for a sense of being part of the whole. But that is the human experience, the veils are merely being shed.
Better to make it just you and Allah. You are not owed anything. Walk free on the earth.
As an aside I think we have less than ten years before AI renders social media meaningless, and we cannot seperate fact from fiction. Most newspaper articles are already written by AI. Shortly academic papers will follow. It will affect what's left of academia and uproot the last of culture. Only the market will remain. Then we will have a new paradigm; identity will matter less. Deeds are counted. Hold tight.
Spot on. Completely agree
I remember when this popped off a few years ago.
The man's issue was that he felt there weren't enough Black people in leadership positions in UK mosques, it later evolved into not feeling welcome, as a black person.
Now mosques and Churches, for that matter, in the UK at least, have administrations dominated by the people who founded said mosques/churches and the demographics of the area.
It is interesting, that the man's issues coincided with the Me too/times up movements.
Make of that what you will.
This was not the point of the video.
Your loyalty should be to the religion and it's tenets and not to the bad behaviour of Muslims.
Truth!!
I am not surprised. Most people don't even know the true teachings of Islam and what is more important in life. Humans are fallible and they are sceptical of what is different. Also could be that some fear a devout revert is more righteous than them, exposing their shortcomings. The important thing is that Allah is one, and people follow the teachings of the faith to please Allah and not Abd Allah as we say. Stay strong and if i ever visit the UK, would love to invite you for a lunch or dinner and get together as brothers in faith
Truth said! And thank you so much for your kindness!
@@williambarylo thank you for keeping it real and raising awareness of what our brothers and sisters are experiencing. I hope others read this and remember what Allah subhanuh wa taalla said about treating our brothers and sisters in faith
The message at the end of the video gave me the shivers. It’s sad and wholly unacceptable. Racists and gatekeepers are toxic. Thank you for not hiding the realities of some of the problems within Muslim communities.
insha'Allah let's make things change by being the good example!
@@williambarylo I agree with you. Can’t just talk about the problems but should try to make a difference with our interactions.
Even though this VIDEO is fiction the content on which it is BASED ON is *NOT FICTION*
Right now i can recall one clip from a more recent(ish) memory that was shared on the platform (starts with F) where guy ws extremely rude and humiliatingly told to leave the masjid. The guy was white with a lot of tattoos. The "uncle" probably the caretaker of masjid or mosque committee seemed to be above the age of 60 maybe nearing 70s, of South Asian descent, his clothes were such. The whole thing was quite heated but it seemed that when the victim started recording no physical altercation took place. *May have* taken place before the start of recording but not during. You didnt have to see the victim's face but you coild hear it in his voice how disgusted he was to have been treated in such a manner.
These "old dudes" really should be barred from being on committees when they create far more issues than solutions.
Thank you for saying the truth!! It also happen to born Muslims with disabilities. Sadly, you always have people in the comments and in real life saying: "It's not true!" "Muslims are not like that!" "Stop complaining!" "Stop playing the victim". It even happened in a child abuse case in a mosque.
"ABU JAHL Mosque" that's is they type of state some muslims live in like abu jahl did. i don't understand why we don't unite under the flag of islam . but we people get united under the banners of Desi indian muslims, pakistani muslims , punjabi muslims etc etc. and practice soft hinduism which is embedded in the so called desi culture. i can say this whole heartedly that the "Desi " is cult that's all . We don't need cults . we have islam and that's sufficient . It's the people who are doing disgusting
things for their monopoly .
Are you on the Nizami course by any chance??
If I would meet even 1 person from where I live, from my school and environment I would I would hug him with whole my heart, I can't understand... How is it possible that so many people face racism! I almost can't even believe in the numbers... May Allah lead us to the right path.
Ameen! May more people follow your example!
What about 'no polish 'there? Is there any issue with Polish Muslims or what? just curious...
In the UK, a lot of the Muslim population has assimilated to the point of copying the way the mainstream thinks. A lot of British Muslims dismiss Poles as dirty immigrants who steal money, etc, even when they become Muslim. This doesn't exist in Pakistan or North India.
@@williambarylo Thanks. So we basically speak about blindly adopting racism into community. Good job by putting that into spotlight. I am not blessed with faith but I fully support you.
@williambarylo this is so weird. I always read these weird things about mosques in Britain, like not letting sisters do their prayer in there, what is going on there?
@@williambaryloWill I am Somali who has lived in London for almost 30 years and trust me when I say no one finds Polish people dirty or anything bad. I have worked with money. Very hard working very clean honest people who are dedicated to family. Are you a Muslim revert Will?
@@MrTeeri4 everyone has different experiences
Amazing alhamdulillah. When did you film this?
Thank you! I filmed last year. I didn't post immediately as the situation in Gaza was more important
I find it very hard to believe that a black brother wasn't allowed in to a masjid. I know in morocco all are black African brothers and sisters have no problems at all going in to any masjid in morocco.
Well, if the masjid is called "Abu Jahl Masjid" I don't expect much from it!
Weird rules..
no sisters or no black people when islam means democracy and has 3 races.
Professor I think u should watch "Superiority of BLACKS over ARABS ● Al-Jahiz Fakhr al-Sudan" by HISTORYUN . This is actually way older issue
Thank you I'll have a look
@@williambarylo HISTORYUN is also a great history channel . Videos are well researched and unbiased to most extent
i know this guy. excellent speaker and over all nice guy.
we all know the muslim in the UK means south asian.
long story but i'll be reviewing one of your videos on the solution podcast and explaining further.
Dawuud is an awesome and very talented man indeed! Send me the link when the video is out!
@@williambarylo will do brother.
There are many Syrians and Palestinians in UK also
@@muslim_first Middle Eastern: 6%, Asian/Asian British: 65%.
1:48 I understand the message you are trying to spread, but brother, why did you have to show uncensored pictures of women like that? Especially in front of the house of Allah? That's not Islamic.
This is the world we live in. When Muslim men deal drugs and traffic prostitutes, they get invited on every Muslim podcast from 5pillars to Smile 2 Jannah and nobody comments
@@williambarylo Fair enough, I can see your point about how the world seems to be too lenient on those types of Muslim men.
But again, these are two separate issues. Can't you have made the same point but censored those images, and maybe added text describing what it showed?
@@xcurrentbreeze6626 I'm not that advanced in the deen yet
@@williambarylo Very true. Just look how much love Andrew Tate is getting, it's appalling! He is a pimp and a trafficker, yet so deeply loved by the muslim community. It's sad that people like you, good hearted and have never done anything wrong, are being treated this way. I don't get it.
I also study sociology but would it be useful to the Ummah? Its an A-level and not actually a degree but ive been told that what you learn in A-level sociology is what you basically learn in university. And yes, I agree that theres so much racism within this Ummah and im Saying this as a British African Somali. The sad part is that Muslims always use the hadith about racism to justify their racism.
The irony! Yes, Sociology is like psychology but for the whole society. Understand people and try to find solutions to problems.
Sociology can be useful for tech companies, AI engineers, market research, etc. Make sure you first secure a solid career in a growing sector. I made the mistake of becoming an academic where work conditions are not great!
Dr, random video recommendation "I got married, wedding of Muslim in China village .(the whole process including Nikah)" . I today i found out there are Chinese muslim called Hui and they are at least 10 million!!! . Channels name is "Oldwatch Ma" .I thought this might interest you, so I shared it.
thank you I'll have a look!
This is completely forbidden. Muslim Imams have a duty to make people feel welcome in the House of Allah. There is no racism in Islam! We love converts and reverts and people raised as Muslims alike.
I can't tell if it's a serious comment or not! Let's see what the others reply
@@thehourglassfan3515 I wonder why they were attending prayers and jumuah at the time of the Prophet. It seems very strange
@@williambarylo Salam Aleikum. Peace Be With You. My dear brother, I think I made a mistake. Please, forgive me. I just read that Prophet Muhammad pbuh told his companions not to prevent women from praying at mosque. It’s totally fine, then. 🙂 May Allah bless you. I love your channel.
@@williambaryloSince I was wrong, I edited my comment. 🙂 I didn’t even watch the video the first time, I just reacted to the thumbnail.
@@thehourglassfan3515 haha! no worries! May Allah bless you!
Just realised he is going to Abu Jahl Masjid.
@@Giga-cat-c6b yes!
Ok let is all improve in shaa Allah.
May Allah guide us, may Allah assist us in changing.
insha'Allah Ameen!
This topic need much more awareness
thank you!
No such issues in France.
Alhamdulillah for French Muslims
Subuhana Allah am a Muslim and black and we all love and respect each other so what you saying is a lie
You might be living in a place around nice people.
i dont understand tbh
It's ok
Uniquely, the Qur'an identifies the very first racist - [7 : 12]
Yes!!
Idk there was a problem
There is no problem, it is a fiction which the video maker admits. :)
@@syedhasan8181silly me. What is the point of this video?
Edit
I just read the disclaimer and in the second sentence it says convert experience. Is that fiction too?
@@syedhasan8181 did you even watched the last seconds of the video where it clearly states the problem
There is a vast conspiracy going on against Muslims and disinformation is being used as weapon by the Islamophobes. So, I would believe only real research and statistics and not a fake video that speaks insincerity by its very nature. We don't need more Islam and Muslim bashing than what the Media is already doing. If there is any bad behaviour by some Muslims, then it is just that: some bad behaviour by "some" Muslims. PEACE :)
Ok let’s be honest akhis, this is exaggeration. Most racist uncles are very unpopular and get shunned by us the new generation, so this doesn’t really happen anymore.
Sure UK may be different but I’m talking about the Muslim world. In the Muslim world we have the opposite problem, anyone who is a “westerner” be it Muslim or non Muslims are treated better than easterners, due to colonized mindset.
But c’mon, 😂 there’s no way normal people (excluding the uncles) actually do this.
This video is a fiction, it exaggerates things in purpose. Sadly, this is something still present in younger generations but fortunately, it is disappearing... Or replaced by materialism. You're 100% right. In non western countries, westerners are idolised in some cases!
Hypocrites, this is wrong
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Why are you so focused on black people?
Because I care about my friends
Who tell this to him
This
brilliant
Thank you
This isn't True 👎
I challenge you to call Christian Prince. He does live stream every day that any Muslim may call. He can show you racist hadiths of prophet Muhammad, in which he called black people "raisin heads". Only in Christianity people are created in God's image. Jesus loves everyone.
Careful, you gonna attract atheists!
@@BuffaloPros Here is the Bible fragment that you are quoting but not understanding: "From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.
Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!”
Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it. What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul? For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done."
Jesus predicted his own death on the cross. He sacrificed Himself for you. Peter however, did not want to see His Master crucified. That's why he got called Satan. Muhammad in his Qur'an said that Jesus was not crucified, and it only seemed like He got crucified. In the tafsir it says that Allah put someone else that looked exactly like Isa. That is why Muhammad is an Antichrist who was under the influence of Satan. Antichrist is someone who denies the Father and Son. Muhammad denied both.
@@BuffaloPros It's clear that you have neither read Matthew 16:21-24 nor understood it. Jesus called Peter Satan because when Jesus predicted His own death on the cross, Peter protested. He did not want to see His Master suffer. Jesus sacrificed Himself for you on the cross. You're doing a similar thing. You deny and refuse His gift and sacrifice done for you, because you rather follow a false prophet who seduced you with the promise of 72 virgins in jannah. Paul was not fraudulent. He gave up his life for preaching about Jesus and became a martyr for that. Muhammad was fraudulent. All he cared about was three things: 1. money 2. women 3. power.
@@BuffaloPros It's clear that you have neither read Matthew 16:21-24 nor understood it. Jesus called Peter Satan because when Jesus predicted His own death on the cross, Peter protested. He did not want to see His Master suffer. Jesus sacrificed Himself for you on the cross. You're doing a similar thing. You deny and refuse His gift and sacrifice done for you, because you rather follow a false prophet who promised you 72 virgins in jannah instead.
@@BuffaloPros 1. Speaking of decomposing - your prophet said in a hadith that bodies of prophets do not decompose, yet his body decomposed. He exposed himself
2. Nowhere in the Bible it says that the sons of Ishamel are Arabs. I can show you a hadith that proves that even in your religion it does not make sense to say that. The hadith says that Ishamel travelled to Arabs with his mother and learned the arabic language from them. How could Ishmael be the first Arab if Arabs existed already?
it’s haram to put these pictures of naked women
also there’s no need for that to convey the message
who’s this monafiq editor who put the picture of kabaa behind honorless women
isn’t this an insult for islam
I left islam precisely because of this shallow notion of honor, related to clothes and sex, and female genitalia, mainly.
This is the world we live in. When Muslims deal drugs and traffic women, they get invited in every single Muslim podcast from 5pillars to Smile to Jannah. And no one comments about this
@@williambarylo I benefited a lot from your advice about not engaging with toxic people in the past. This gentleman is clearly attempting to provoke you my brother. They have been flooding convert spaces and websites with similar comments. They are narcissits who believe they own the religion and they are attempting to police the new commers to regain the power they lost in the middle east. Your work and energy is too valuable to humor these comments. I and others recognize you as a leader in the making. Let's not validate or humor their existence in our space by giving them the attention that they need as fuel🌸🙏.
@@williambarylo these people absolutely are in andrew tate's chokehold. And it's exactly why andrew tate has shifted from nifaq to open kufr akbar because he knows he'll always have an entourage of da'ee yes men around him regardless. But let it be known that not all muslims are like this, and infact a minority of learned muslims are like the people espoused here, most of the culprits are complacent lay muslims and the andrew tate dawa mafia
@@williambarylo are you hinting at Andrew Tate, you know he's not guilty of the things he's been charged with.
No Polish xD as if Polish people were soo eager to join mosques
You haven't been to Birmingham!!
@@williambarylo That's right, I haven't. Are there crowds of Polish muslims?
@@springtocore2409 It depends whether one talks about new Polish Muslims (many in the UK or Poland), or Polish Muslims settled in Poland since the 14th century (Tatars)
@@williambarylo Man, I'm Polish and in my entire life I haven't met one Polish muslim (who isn't an imigrant).
I know they exist, both converts and Tatars (around 2000 people in 38 milion nation) but its a very extremely small number