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Jumping jacks actually do help, because things that help the brain work better naturally will help you learn better too, and exercise/hydration/brain yoga/proper nutrition/etc. are good for the brain. I live a pretty sedentary lifestyle, but recently I've been exercising way more since I directly observed that it helps me with my studies, but I get the joke that jumping jacks is odd and seemingly random :P
no bc i tried ajatt as a complete beginner "just to get used to the language"... damn. even like 3 days that i spent dodging my native and english, i only then realized how insane it is. absolutely continuing and no one can stop me 😜 (do not recommend, please get professionally treated instead of learning japanese)
i was ajatting so hard for the past 2 days that i just now could watch this Master Piece of a video ! Atleast it has some japanese in it so i can checkoff my immersion for today 🤣
Yoooo I saw your video about moving to Japan!! Actually honored you found our channel and liked the video enough to watch it!!!! Also I had a solid TOTK hyperfixation and I remember your video on it cracking me up. Super cool to see you here, this is the first time somebody I watch has ever commented so this is super meaningful to us. hope to see ya up there in the big leagues one day
Verb conjugation with 5 - 8 different end forms and 3 different styles of verbs! (Ichidan, goudan, iregular), a entite grammatical structure thats so entirely different from Ebglish that you literally have to turn your English brain off, 3 writing systems and Kanji that take on multiple meanings and readings with many of the pairings making absolutely no literal sense whatsoever!??!??! SIGN ME UP BOYS, ITS TIME TO LVL 60 WANIKANI AND 10K flash cards!!!!!!
Man getting called a ボケ by your Japanese friend mean you really messed up bad. Also shoutout to 北斗の拳 best post apocalyptical show out there. Video are getting better nice job.
A few things that helped: 1) avoid the Japanese language community like the plague (which is ironic because I’m replying to this video lol) 2) don’t make learning Japanese your entire life. It can add it to but don’t make it everything 3) stop caring about what other people are doing and learn it the best way it works for you 4) take your time 5) find the real reason why is it that you want to learn Japanese, for example, my partner speaks very little English so I’m learning day to day Japanese to bridge the gap.
Damn this is one of the best comments I have seen in a while. The point of learning japanese for yourself and not to prove to others is one of the greatest tips a new learner can get
This is what happens if you don't feed Bjorn 7:20... I liked the six eyes/two glasses, it should become a trend. Loved the characters aswell, now we have two! Great work guys , keep up with the perfect content, acting, filming, editing and with the random stuffs
@@BecomeAnything. I don't know well, maybe there could be something related to experiences that people out of Japan think some stuff happens, but actually, either it's misunderstood or just a lie though. Of course this is up to you
@@BecomeAnything. Dude, I'm so excited for your next videos. Try combine your creativity with some worthful informations/lessons and the world will be soon yours. Be patient with the RUclips algorithm. You got that special something and when the algorithm hits, you will win. Just stay on the ground though :)
Best decision was to tell nobody that I started learning Japanese until I reached a few levels above the average weeb that uses duolingo for a few weeks. I know that's not really difficult but still people took me more serious when I told them about it Great vid btw
Hahaha that's a really good guess 😂😂 language school dorms are poop especially ISI's heard horror stories from the ppl in there. I live in a sharehouse and us 2 are the only forigners lol
@@BecomeAnything. nice, i'm planning on going next year but im too old for shared living spaces, i've lived those horror stories in my youth haha. but the cost is always attractive, I suppose its a right of passage :)
The part about ajatt, especially "is this really what you wanted?" put some feelings I couldn't describe for the longest time into words, what I want out of japanese is it to add to my life, to give me more options, more fulfilment, not for it to consume the rest of my life, cutting me off from doing things I love that are in english, basically trading one language's activities for another, not to mention the burnout would be insane. If this was any other hobby, I feel like that could be classified as unhealthy behaviour for most people aside from the ones who can really sit down and just do it and don't want to spend that time or energy on other things. Hobbies are supposed to add to your life, not destroy it. Ajatt really is only for the people who can really handle it, so it's always bothered me how high and mighty some folks can get about it and how they act like you will never learn Japanese if you don't, completely disregarding the people who don't immerse for like 18 hours a day and still reach fluenc), I'm almost certain some of them are scaring people away from a hobby they might love. You don't NEED to follow ajatt if it's not for you, ultimately a hobby is something meant to make your life better, and if ajatt ruins it for you, it's best not to do it, and maintain a healthy balance in your life, finding what resources and content, and hours works for you is most important (if it actually does work that is, there are things that will pose as ways to learn a language for example duolingo that are good starting spots but provably doesn't really work) This isn't to disparage people who love ajatt and use it, more power to ajatters, but it's for those who feel pressured like they have to or why even bother, yknow?
Duolingo works fine. It's a good starting point. I completed it in a year without stressing. Sure I'm not fluent but nothing you do for less than an hour a day for less than a year will make you fluent. Now when I watch Japanese media I understand some/most of it.
@@Jordan-Ramses yeah I said it's a good starting point, but as a regular resource past your starting point it's shown to be not that good, I mean if it's a supplementary resource you use every once in a while whatever but there are just better resources out there that are much, *much* better for learning things to then be acquired in immersion, there are channels in which people have only used Duolingo and you can sort of see the results of that
@@Jordan-Ramses I mean it can work like I said for beginning, sure, but it's not really a great resource, especially on its own it doesn't particularly work well, I mean you can find channels that did Duolingo only for certain periods of time and see where that got them and when its combined with other resources and immersion it's kinda like a stone soup situation yknow
also in the process of trying a new title for this vid. Do you like "The 5 Stages of Learning Japanese be like" OR "What it's ACTUALLY like to learn Japanese in a Nutshell"? I need someone to help me decide xD
@@BecomeAnything. Well in a marketing view the current tittle would be more eye catching to people that actually want to learn Japanese because of the "ACTUALLY" in all cap. (it would get people that are trying to learn Japanese) Hoever, the tittle "The 5 stages of learning Japanese be like" would be more for everyone because it is more of a meme type idea if you get what I'm trying to say! (it would basically try to get everyone but with less potential real Japanese learner)
I think the biggest issue with learning Japanese, is the misconception that it's some solid language with a strictly specific system of use. Which is delusional when you consider how much of the English language is chaotic and contextual. Anyone going into it should just equip themselves with the basic fact that we learn English throughout our whole lives - so, learning something like Japanese is going to be exactly the same.
I think that last part sets some expectations, I mean past a certain point the only new language you come across is pretty field specific langauge which yknow, isn't needed for a near native level of fluency since like I an english native obvs aren't going to know a lot of it for stuff I'm just not interested in. I think past a certain point it's like, okay to feel "done" with a langauge, yknow at the point where your learning experience becomes just like that of a native speaker, just looking up the occasional new word you find in a new field you're exploring. The way that's worded in here kinda gives me (grain of salt) the impression that even at like 60 years old might still be doing difficult and time consuming learning, idk maybe doing kanji drills in a book or something, cuz yknow past a point it's probably gonna stop feeling like a dedicated study of japanese and just like you're using it in your life how you would your native langauge, without needing to look up the word for idk broomstick or doorknob or something, so like, fluency. A youtuber I love(livakivi) reached a (seemingly)fairly freaking high level without ajatt even in like 7 years, was crazy.
basically yknow I think it reaches a point eventually where it doesn't really feel like dedicated "learning" anymore, and I feel like that's an important thing to note to beginners to yknow not scare them off, thinking they'll be doing kanji studies in a book or a few hours a day of anki or something still after like 20 years, the part of your life that feels like "japanese study" would probably conclude eventually, based on what I've heard. I feel like that's an important expectation for beginners to have (for hope), that it wont always be as super hard as it is starting out or during the intermediate stages, that there is some sort of functional end of the tunnel in sight, even if far away. (I say this as a beginner myself)
@@dragonicbladex7574 Well, what I meant was that - as life goes on, we are always learning new bits of language. We learn new bits of knowledge and such, and yeah, you can be proficient. But there is no endpoint to learning a language. You could be 60 and still learning stuff - you'll likely be able to speak it at that point obviously if you were doing it that long. Honestly, if you interpreted what I said that way, I'm sorry it came off as such.
@@KeiNova Fair enough and I'm sorry if I misinterpreted what you meant too lol, yeah you pick up new bits and pieces even as a native speaker going on in life, but I think the proficiency to where that is all you have to do, just like a native speaker would, is the sort of end goal that people who want fluency in a language are shooting for.. maybe? At the least it's what I'm shooting for. I mean I'm 20 and still learning new words in english, but by all accounts I think people would consider me to be fluent in english, using it feels as natural as breathing, but I still have to pick up a new word every now and then, but I think most people would consider this point the "end goal" where you're done, at least with the part of your life where you're using anki a few hours a day or something, new words don't even feel like an object of study or learning at that point, they just osmos-ize through regular exposure into your vocabulary unless you're entering a dense field with a lot of a new words. I feel like I am indeed "done" with english in that way(mind you I'm native english rofl), I don't have the feeling I do in english that I do toward japanese at my current beginner level, where I have to go out of my way to study the nihongo
@@dragonicbladex7574 Oh, I see what you mean. I don't think anyone should be discouraged. I'm still a beginner and I just think people should be aware of what they are getting into. I find the little bit I learn everyday is highly rewarding and totally enriches my life. It's just a nice way to actually work towards something, especially when you are an adult and that's hard to experience. There's just all these big claim videos and lies running on RUclips and apps that make the whole process complicated and misleading.
Say that again. I double dog dare you.
that again
that again
That again
So many people try to learn Kanji and fail. So don't try.
@@Jordan-Ramses ☠
nah the stage of learning how to learn more japanese rather than learning actual japanese is so true 😭
Ya it's sad 😭 I have wasted so many hours doing that
FR THOUGH- I started at 8 but forgot sm, looking to restart soon :'D
bro so true weebs just think japanese people call each other idiots constantly 😭
yep it be like that
This is the kind of content I need to procrastinate my Japanese learning journey thank you
Glad I could help you stop learning !
I swear this was the last "how to learn japanese video" I watched instead of actually learning...
get ajatting!
You should make more skits like this video, this video was hilarious.
more on the way!
You look like someone from the anime men
WHY IS EVERYONE SAYING THIS
@@BecomeAnything.Accept that he’s your long lost twin
A crossover someday.
Who
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Hopefully link works, middle left
Quality fever dream. 10/10
wake up wake up wake up wake up
MUTT VS JAPAN HAHAHAHA that was gold 😂😂😂
Haha glad somebody got the reference
No but the amount of RUclipsrs trying to sell you their scam japanese courses are actually crazy 😭
Duolingo doesn't work! Buy my course!
MY COURSE LINKED IN DESCRIPTION ITS $2000 OFF ITS $30,000 PRICE TAG
They always say. You've been learning Japanese wrong. Then push their product.
WE'RE GOING MENTALLY INSANE WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🔥💯💯
@@shikoshib AAGGAGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH
I’m on stage three right now.. that’s why I’m watching your videos.. WHY IS THIS SO ACCURATE😭😭😭😭
broke my long ass pure ajatt streak to watch an ajatt promotion👍
I need to dub my videos in japanese for my true ajatters
“Hello talk”😭😭 that place is literally hell😭
Hahahahaha
Yeaahhhh I either got hit on or ignored for long periods of time (Then I got burnt out and stopped talking to people)
This video is a masterpiece 😂
ty!
every line in this video is gold
absolute cinema ✋🤚
glad you enjoyed !
5:06 I didn’t expect to see Faline here lol
when is the Collab ⁉️
Can’t believe he interrupted his ninjitsu training
very rude of him
Don't you ever disrespect tanaka-sand from Genki I again!
How did you know Tanakasan was my friend from the genki textbook!!!!! You must be from the anki faction!
I met 田中さん on LingoDeer!… I think they follow a textbook for their content…
I dont go outside anyways so i think ajatt was made for my lifestyle
Notice how this whole video was filmed indoors 😂 same here
@@BecomeAnything. love the vids and the fire comments. Hopefully I boost the algorithm
Jumping jacks actually do help, because things that help the brain work better naturally will help you learn better too, and exercise/hydration/brain yoga/proper nutrition/etc. are good for the brain.
I live a pretty sedentary lifestyle, but recently I've been exercising way more since I directly observed that it helps me with my studies, but I get the joke that jumping jacks is odd and seemingly random :P
imma have to start actually doing them ahah
9:50 missed opportunitie to play the interstellar soundtrack (referring when the main character is in the tesseract
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO GOOD
1 second in, and I'm laughing so hard cause that is exactly how I look eating cereal out of the box while watching anime. 😂
Hahaha gotem
"buy now for 1200 or 3 payments of $65" - classic
@@dragonzord6615 OF COURSE YOU WOULD NOTICE DRAGONZORD
@@BecomeAnything. I just like a good deal :(
You really captured the 2000s RUclips aesthetic.
Damn that means a lot. Thanks!
no bc i tried ajatt as a complete beginner "just to get used to the language"... damn. even like 3 days that i spent dodging my native and english, i only then realized how insane it is. absolutely continuing and no one can stop me 😜 (do not recommend, please get professionally treated instead of learning japanese)
Haha stage 3 is so accurate 🤣
i was ajatting so hard for the past 2 days that i just now could watch this Master Piece of a video ! Atleast it has some japanese in it so i can checkoff my immersion for today 🤣
Haha yep! Could you understand anything our Japanese friend said? 😂
@@BecomeAnything. no still training my ninjitsu to become the hokkage. 😂 one day tho 😂
One of the funniest videos I've watched in a while, subbed.
THANK YOU!
@@BecomeAnything. Keep up the good vids, you put a lot of effort and quality in them. Will be tuned in.
9:49 yeah watching people fall for the same delusions you did in the beginning is rough
Yoooo I saw your video about moving to Japan!! Actually honored you found our channel and liked the video enough to watch it!!!!
Also I had a solid TOTK hyperfixation and I remember your video on it cracking me up. Super cool to see you here, this is the first time somebody I watch has ever commented so this is super meaningful to us. hope to see ya up there in the big leagues one day
You can take a multivitamin or you can take an ibuprofen XD
Damn we got exposed. Apology video coming soon 😭
Verb conjugation with 5 - 8 different end forms and 3 different styles of verbs! (Ichidan, goudan, iregular), a entite grammatical structure thats so entirely different from Ebglish that you literally have to turn your English brain off, 3 writing systems and Kanji that take on multiple meanings and readings with many of the pairings making absolutely no literal sense whatsoever!??!??!
SIGN ME UP BOYS, ITS TIME TO LVL 60 WANIKANI AND 10K flash cards!!!!!!
I GOT TO LEVEL 60 WANIKANI TRUST ME ITS NOTTTT FUN
Not to mention particle juggling which is so normal to natives and is a non-existent concept for most languages that I know of.
The Haachama part was too specific HAHAHAHAHA.
Amazing video
Haachamachama
masterpiece ^^
may the algorithm bless u!
means a lot, ty !
wow this acting is so sugoi wowwie sugoi desu-naeeeeeeeee!!!
honto ni arigato sushi San! Totemo ureshiii!!!!
This video is awesome! So relatable 😂👏😎
glad you liked it !
Lol learning how to learn Japanese - that is so me
Yep, we have all been there 😂
こんなに笑ったのは何週間ぶりです。素敵な一日をありがとう。
笑った事で嬉し限りです!!! 見てくれてありがとう🙏🙏
@@BecomeAnything. ♥♥
Skit is good, even in English ;b
glad u enjoyed even in english !
Man getting called a ボケ by your Japanese friend mean you really messed up bad. Also shoutout to 北斗の拳 best post apocalyptical show out there. Video are getting better nice job.
ya he was letting his anger out
I did not expect that ending
We went crazy 😅
A few things that helped:
1) avoid the Japanese language community like the plague (which is ironic because I’m replying to this video lol)
2) don’t make learning Japanese your entire life. It can add it to but don’t make it everything
3) stop caring about what other people are doing and learn it the best way it works for you
4) take your time
5) find the real reason why is it that you want to learn Japanese, for example, my partner speaks very little English so I’m learning day to day Japanese to bridge the gap.
Damn this is one of the best comments I have seen in a while. The point of learning japanese for yourself and not to prove to others is one of the greatest tips a new learner can get
@@BecomeAnything. this makes me very happy! 🙏 I’m glad I can help! Thank you!
I can relate
This is effing ridiculous gold.
I'm just having fun with it. Feel like I'm learning very well. Demo, tensai dayone.
yeah it's hard to see the progress until you look from outside tbh
This is what happens if you don't feed Bjorn 7:20... I liked the six eyes/two glasses, it should become a trend. Loved the characters aswell, now we have two! Great work guys , keep up with the perfect content, acting, filming, editing and with the random stuffs
it's ok I gave him a leftover sandwich for acting
@@BecomeAnything. I fear that one day Ill see a video of him in a basement
@@responseboby No, no, no, I would never
never let the public know about it
HELP ME!!! Also yes very stylish with the double glasses 🤓. (Bjorn here)
this makes me laugh.. and it's tru
Yep 🤣
Definitely a part two dude
More skits coming soon! Any ideas?
@@BecomeAnything. I don't know well, maybe there could be something related to experiences that people out of Japan think some stuff happens, but actually, either it's misunderstood or just a lie though. Of course this is up to you
i watched ur video in 0.5 speed for algorithm
W MAN 💯
this scares me as someone who started trying to learn Japanese last month haha
it should
bro is literally me ,, mo dammeeee
Lmao
See? Much better without a bottle in front of your face! Kudos to you my friend, great video!
yep it was a running joke got old. had to put it down haha
@@BecomeAnything. Dude, I'm so excited for your next videos. Try combine your creativity with some worthful informations/lessons and the world will be soon yours. Be patient with the RUclips algorithm. You got that special something and when the algorithm hits, you will win. Just stay on the ground though :)
very motivational
♥️
Yeah I’m pretty sure I’m at day 176…
it be like thar
It's all real. I can confirm
😭
10:06 - stupid?! nihongo no baka wa janai desu!🤓🤓🤓🤓 great video by the way brother.
thank you brother 🤓☝️👍
Istg I’ve seen this exact thumbnail before
No you haven't (don't look up mrs eats)
In Japan, straight up learning it. And by it, haha, let’s just say. My Jalapeños
🫑🥵😩
man just tryna gloss over his discord being in Japanese
I will become a nihongo tatsujin!
oh fuck...
Ya.... Get ready
Best decision was to tell nobody that I started learning Japanese until I reached a few levels above the average weeb that uses duolingo for a few weeks.
I know that's not really difficult but still people took me more serious when I told them about it
Great vid btw
1000 iq tactic. Honestly this applies to most things too 😂
looks like you're in a dorm in japan... what language school you at and for how long?
Hahaha that's a really good guess 😂😂 language school dorms are poop especially ISI's heard horror stories from the ppl in there. I live in a sharehouse and us 2 are the only forigners lol
@@BecomeAnything. nice, i'm planning on going next year but im too old for shared living spaces, i've lived those horror stories in my youth haha. but the cost is always attractive, I suppose its a right of passage :)
Immersive translate will be great if you want to get better at it. It's a revision platform
never heard of it, ty for telling me !
where’s the genki arc?
I didn't have a textbook but it wouldve been stage 2
50 quidd is a lot tbh, and it's not like you need it lol
Learning Japanese can be pretty shit... te imasu.
lol true
Hilarious af! I can relate to this on so many levels lmfao
Really well made.
迫真の演技やなｗ
お疲れさん(!ｗw( ^ω^ )wｗ!)
thank you ! glad you liked it
The part about ajatt, especially "is this really what you wanted?" put some feelings I couldn't describe for the longest time into words, what I want out of japanese is it to add to my life, to give me more options, more fulfilment, not for it to consume the rest of my life, cutting me off from doing things I love that are in english, basically trading one language's activities for another, not to mention the burnout would be insane. If this was any other hobby, I feel like that could be classified as unhealthy behaviour for most people aside from the ones who can really sit down and just do it and don't want to spend that time or energy on other things.
Hobbies are supposed to add to your life, not destroy it. Ajatt really is only for the people who can really handle it, so it's always bothered me how high and mighty some folks can get about it and how they act like you will never learn Japanese if you don't, completely disregarding the people who don't immerse for like 18 hours a day and still reach fluenc), I'm almost certain some of them are scaring people away from a hobby they might love.
You don't NEED to follow ajatt if it's not for you, ultimately a hobby is something meant to make your life better, and if ajatt ruins it for you, it's best not to do it, and maintain a healthy balance in your life, finding what resources and content, and hours works for you is most important (if it actually does work that is, there are things that will pose as ways to learn a language for example duolingo that are good starting spots but provably doesn't really work)
This isn't to disparage people who love ajatt and use it, more power to ajatters, but it's for those who feel pressured like they have to or why even bother, yknow?
Duolingo works fine. It's a good starting point. I completed it in a year without stressing. Sure I'm not fluent but nothing you do for less than an hour a day for less than a year will make you fluent. Now when I watch Japanese media I understand some/most of it.
@@Jordan-Ramses yeah I said it's a good starting point, but as a regular resource past your starting point it's shown to be not that good, I mean if it's a supplementary resource you use every once in a while whatever but there are just better resources out there that are much, *much* better for learning things to then be acquired in immersion, there are channels in which people have only used Duolingo and you can sort of see the results of that
@@Jordan-Ramses I mean it can work like I said for beginning, sure, but it's not really a great resource, especially on its own it doesn't particularly work well, I mean you can find channels that did Duolingo only for certain periods of time and see where that got them and when its combined with other resources and immersion it's kinda like a stone soup situation yknow
Losing his second channel really broke him
I have become a monster 😭
Epic!
🙏
むちゃくちゃ面白いｗ
よかった!
見てくれてありがとう！
Bro your Japanese friend roasted you so freaking hardl lmao, and then to top it off called you a boke like 15 times LMAO ;-;
Yeah he's mean
MOCHI
YES
Where’s the stage where you start forgetting the wani kani lessons and then just get mad at the language? I’ve been on this stage for awhile now
He got so mad at stacking wanikani reps by stage 5 that he started drawing the kanji in his notebook instead
ngl you need a discord server
We decided when we hit 10k subs we are gonna make one!
also in the process of trying a new title for this vid. Do you like "The 5 Stages of Learning Japanese be like" OR "What it's ACTUALLY like to learn Japanese in a Nutshell"? I need someone to help me decide xD
@@BecomeAnything. Well in a marketing view the current tittle would be more eye catching to people that actually want to learn Japanese because of the "ACTUALLY" in all cap. (it would get people that are trying to learn Japanese) Hoever, the tittle "The 5 stages of learning Japanese be like" would be more for everyone because it is more of a meme type idea if you get what I'm trying to say! (it would basically try to get everyone but with less potential real Japanese learner)
Yaaa I thought the exact same. Maybe I will try the new 1 for a bit and see if it does any different and if not swap back thanks!
halfway through i lost track of what stage it is qwq
haha nice
Lmbo so real 🙈
I think I'm at like stage 2 lol
that's the best place to be
@@BecomeAnything. Although without the lofty expectations of myself lol
funny video d=
ty !
you may as well have renamed it "how weebs learn Japanese" and it would have been perfect
Facts
Don't call my 11 y/o weeb-self out like that 😭
lol had to call mine out too
So, I actually can't learn N4 Japanese in 2 weeks?!?
You can learn it in 5 minutes if you buy my $10,000 course linked in the description!
Bro i learned all n5 kanji in just 10 days but i am unable to leanr vocabulary and grammar part that's just to much plz help me 😭
you just need to be exposed to it over and over and over before it clicks
a
a
Should I start learning
Say that again. I double dog dare you. (No but in all seriousness you should if you want to 💯💯 but you know what fate lies ahead 💀
I think the biggest issue with learning Japanese, is the misconception that it's some solid language with a strictly specific system of use. Which is delusional when you consider how much of the English language is chaotic and contextual. Anyone going into it should just equip themselves with the basic fact that we learn English throughout our whole lives - so, learning something like Japanese is going to be exactly the same.
I think that last part sets some expectations, I mean past a certain point the only new language you come across is pretty field specific langauge which yknow, isn't needed for a near native level of fluency since like I an english native obvs aren't going to know a lot of it for stuff I'm just not interested in. I think past a certain point it's like, okay to feel "done" with a langauge, yknow at the point where your learning experience becomes just like that of a native speaker, just looking up the occasional new word you find in a new field you're exploring. The way that's worded in here kinda gives me (grain of salt) the impression that even at like 60 years old might still be doing difficult and time consuming learning, idk maybe doing kanji drills in a book or something, cuz yknow past a point it's probably gonna stop feeling like a dedicated study of japanese and just like you're using it in your life how you would your native langauge, without needing to look up the word for idk broomstick or doorknob or something, so like, fluency. A youtuber I love(livakivi) reached a (seemingly)fairly freaking high level without ajatt even in like 7 years, was crazy.
basically yknow I think it reaches a point eventually where it doesn't really feel like dedicated "learning" anymore, and I feel like that's an important thing to note to beginners to yknow not scare them off, thinking they'll be doing kanji studies in a book or a few hours a day of anki or something still after like 20 years, the part of your life that feels like "japanese study" would probably conclude eventually, based on what I've heard. I feel like that's an important expectation for beginners to have (for hope), that it wont always be as super hard as it is starting out or during the intermediate stages, that there is some sort of functional end of the tunnel in sight, even if far away. (I say this as a beginner myself)
@@dragonicbladex7574 Well, what I meant was that - as life goes on, we are always learning new bits of language. We learn new bits of knowledge and such, and yeah, you can be proficient. But there is no endpoint to learning a language. You could be 60 and still learning stuff - you'll likely be able to speak it at that point obviously if you were doing it that long. Honestly, if you interpreted what I said that way, I'm sorry it came off as such.
@@KeiNova Fair enough and I'm sorry if I misinterpreted what you meant too lol, yeah you pick up new bits and pieces even as a native speaker going on in life, but I think the proficiency to where that is all you have to do, just like a native speaker would, is the sort of end goal that people who want fluency in a language are shooting for.. maybe? At the least it's what I'm shooting for. I mean I'm 20 and still learning new words in english, but by all accounts I think people would consider me to be fluent in english, using it feels as natural as breathing, but I still have to pick up a new word every now and then, but I think most people would consider this point the "end goal" where you're done, at least with the part of your life where you're using anki a few hours a day or something, new words don't even feel like an object of study or learning at that point, they just osmos-ize through regular exposure into your vocabulary unless you're entering a dense field with a lot of a new words. I feel like I am indeed "done" with english in that way(mind you I'm native english rofl), I don't have the feeling I do in english that I do toward japanese at my current beginner level, where I have to go out of my way to study the nihongo
@@dragonicbladex7574 Oh, I see what you mean. I don't think anyone should be discouraged. I'm still a beginner and I just think people should be aware of what they are getting into. I find the little bit I learn everyday is highly rewarding and totally enriches my life. It's just a nice way to actually work towards something, especially when you are an adult and that's hard to experience. There's just all these big claim videos and lies running on RUclips and apps that make the whole process complicated and misleading.
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