Which Came First - Flowers or Bees?

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    Bees and flowers have an amazingly close relationship. Flowers need bees in order to reproduce, and bees need flowers to feed their colonies. Take away one, and the other would disappear too. It begs the question: When it comes to evolution, which came first, the bees or the flowers?
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Комментарии • 578

  • @wcdeich4
    @wcdeich4 5 лет назад +14

    BTW, some flowering plants still can use wind blown pollen to achieve pollination. It is possible the first flowers were doing that before beetles started eating their pollen & carrying it from plant to plant as they looked for more pollen to eat.

  • @MisterHunterRow
    @MisterHunterRow 7 лет назад +91

    Roses are red
    Violets aren't blue
    Violets are violet
    So poems aren't true

  • @MobBossBobRoss
    @MobBossBobRoss 9 лет назад +24

    I love this channel. These videos aren't all entirely new information for me because I'm studying biology, but here and there are tidbits I was unaware of, or thought about differently. And when the channel goes over what I've learned in university, I'm glad that other viewers can be enlightened with the same knowledge I had to pay for. Don't take this channel for granted, other viewers. Great job Joe and co (and bees!). Stay curious.

  • @EdSchroedinger
    @EdSchroedinger 7 лет назад +17

    'Animals are something invented by plants to move seeds around. An extremely yang solution to a peculiar problem which they faced.'
    Terence McKenna

  • @glyndaeschle1331
    @glyndaeschle1331 9 лет назад +9

    Thank you for creating such a great explanation the relationship of flowers and our world.

  • @ghostsofevolution
    @ghostsofevolution 9 лет назад +26

    Joe - Wow! This was great! Back in the 90s, I wrote 3 books on evolutionary biology, and I love the way you convey the latest, real science. Bravo! Loved, also, the Darwin quote. Us old folks remember the great naturalist Loren Eiseley's mesmerizing essay, "How Flowers Changed the World." Yes, stay curious!

  • @jazeroth322
    @jazeroth322 9 лет назад +2

    Pretty cool show. We once had a bumble bee colony in an air vent in the side of my house. We didn't mind as we told them not to sting us and they can stay. Safe to say none of us or our dogs got stung over the colonies life spam. Was pretty cool watching them come and go

  • @Moonbeam143
    @Moonbeam143 9 лет назад +1

    I remember "Blossom". I used to watch it all the time. Thanks for making me feel old.

  • @Darticus42
    @Darticus42 9 лет назад +29

    "When you stop and smell the flowers thank the bees that got there first"
    But didn't you just finish saying that flowers used to transmit pollen to other insects, and some wasps evolutionally developed a taste for pollen and eventually became bees? So the flowers gave rise to the bees so the flowers were there first?
    Sure the bees made it so flowers still exist (allowed it so they could continue reproducing) but they definitely did not "[get] there first"

    • @Methos1338
      @Methos1338 9 лет назад +19

      Darticus the Great
      I think with the "that got there first" he means the bees before you yourself came to those flowers - not the bees and the flowers

    • @subh1
      @subh1 9 лет назад +1

      Darticus the Great Of course "first" relative to "you" (one who is smelling). There can't be a meaningful absolute "first" anyways. The plants were there before the flowers/bees. Microbes were there even before that. The rocks were there even before life appeared on earth. May be the only absolute first would be the hydrogen nuclei created at big bang.

    • @jazeroth322
      @jazeroth322 9 лет назад

      Yes he said all that but it went: flowers, crap insects, wasp eating crap insects with pollen on, wasp evolve to bees, bees eating flower sperm and then you...

  • @ctrlaltdeldavid
    @ctrlaltdeldavid 7 лет назад +2

    This video has the best background music switches

  • @astaloteczim897
    @astaloteczim897 7 лет назад +19

    "Here's a riddle"
    Proceeds to recite a poem.

  • @zinqtable1092
    @zinqtable1092 8 лет назад +57

    This is an easy one, flowers.

  • @anajohnson4988
    @anajohnson4988 7 лет назад +81

    So bees are vegan wasps.
    #Themoreyouknow

  • @TataSporea
    @TataSporea 8 лет назад +55

    Dear Mr. Smart,
    Could you please accept my Romanian translation of your video.
    I would like to share your video-smart with people that don't understand english. :)
    Thank you

    • @PolianaF1
      @PolianaF1 3 года назад

      So would I. I'd be willing to help with portuguese subtitles. I'm sure many brazilians would love and benefit from this channel.

  • @Matty002
    @Matty002 7 лет назад +4

    @3:33 joe you massive dork xD

  • @CaveGent
    @CaveGent 9 лет назад +1

    That was really entertaining! Time to memorize and quote it later.

  • @CrniWuk
    @CrniWuk 8 лет назад +1

    That's a bit of a strange question, when you think about it, since for example the honey bee was not native to the North American continent and there are many flowers which do not relly on bees for pollination. While bees, naturaly, are a very important part of the process, they are not the only way for flowers to do it, nor are they the only kind of insect that is pollinating flowers.

  • @plaguedoct0r
    @plaguedoct0r 9 лет назад +2

    Posting my answer before watching: DUH flowers, pollen can travel by air. Something probably developed a sweet tasting pollinating bud which started attracting bugs (this is enough to be considered a flower - for my uneducated mind at least) and then petals and "pretty" stuff to attract bees obviously developed later.

  • @CsquidyC
    @CsquidyC 8 лет назад +4

    1:50 - 2:03 Best ever.

  • @maryna.angelpa
    @maryna.angelpa 3 года назад

    this video gives me ideas about the evolution of organisms that depends on other organisms in order to survive

  • @Shockszzbyyous
    @Shockszzbyyous 9 лет назад +3

    I love how this one is full of puns.

  • @WWZenaDo
    @WWZenaDo 9 лет назад +3

    Good question... Insects came first, then flowering plants, so I'd say that the ancestors of bees evolved first, then adapted to the presence of a new food source - FLOWERS!!

  • @mrsseasea
    @mrsseasea 7 лет назад +1

    Love this Chanel!

  • @yeleminpino
    @yeleminpino 6 лет назад +2

    I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!

  • @durdleduc8520
    @durdleduc8520 7 лет назад +2

    I haven't watched the video yet, my hypothesis is that Flowers came first.
    First of all, plants came way before animals, so it would only make sense if flowers came first. Secondly, the reproduction of plants, while are mostly caused by bees, are not dependent on bees.
    First idea: Bees aren't the only pollinators. There are butterflies and other insects.
    Second idea: The spreading of pollen can be produced by other forces such as wind.

  • @nmmeswey3584
    @nmmeswey3584 9 лет назад +1

    5:0 I was expecting a "We wouldn't bee here today" pun

  • @TheRojam12
    @TheRojam12 9 лет назад +4

    God I love this channel. There's really no reason not to like it

  • @HaliFlame
    @HaliFlame 9 лет назад

    U DESERVE SO MUCH MORE SUBSCRIBER!

  • @Poplar632
    @Poplar632 7 лет назад

    That crunch made me jealous of that bee

  • @CrispyGFX
    @CrispyGFX 9 лет назад +21

    OH GOD NOT THE BEES

  • @isthisloss7888
    @isthisloss7888 6 лет назад +3

    2:52
    So it's eating the plant's nut??

  • @sedenatso1256
    @sedenatso1256 6 лет назад +1

    Really like all your videos. Can you please make a video of why dinosaur were so huge and what did dinosaur evolve from?

    • @RandomRads
      @RandomRads Год назад

      From lizard like reptiles. Please do some research.

  • @dylankrejci9965
    @dylankrejci9965 7 лет назад

    I always just thought bees liked nectar and the pollen was attached to the legs that dropped off. Learn something every day

  • @chrispeefeart4655
    @chrispeefeart4655 6 лет назад

    What is the middle step between a fern and a flower

  • @sidstark7
    @sidstark7 7 лет назад +3

    Your puns are the baddest

  • @eniotanaka2229
    @eniotanaka2229 8 лет назад

    Thanks a lot

  • @Aniseverse
    @Aniseverse 9 лет назад +1

    Bees are cute~

  • @anticorncob6
    @anticorncob6 9 лет назад

    Those flowers you were talking to looked scary. I couldn't talk to them like that. I think I still have some anthophobia inside me (besides that of really tall dandelions; those are FREAKY)

  • @charx4246
    @charx4246 9 лет назад

    For your next video can you explain what the uncertainty principle is? It seems really cool, but I'm still not quite sure what it is!

  • @hurdur6828
    @hurdur6828 7 лет назад +3

    the bee movie but everytime there is a bee in a movie it will show the biology of the bees

  • @PhysicsPolice
    @PhysicsPolice 9 лет назад

    What does it mean to say magnolia trees are "one of the oldest flowering plant species still around today"? Perhaps what you mean to say is it diverged from other lineages of flowering plants a very long time ago. Those other lineages are just as "old" as the magnolia.

  • @Gospelman777
    @Gospelman777 Год назад

    What a nice story

  • @noa670
    @noa670 9 лет назад

    This is really interesting

  • @ethanlow4688
    @ethanlow4688 7 лет назад

    can you please do a video on the Wollemi Pine tree

  • @dragofury3579
    @dragofury3579 6 лет назад

    There are other pollinators as well.

  • @101patryks
    @101patryks 9 лет назад +9

    How do solar panels work?

    • @amihartz
      @amihartz 9 лет назад

      101patryks They turn sunlight into electric energy. c:

    • @TheRojam12
      @TheRojam12 9 лет назад

      Amelia Hartman But how, though. How do they do that?

    • @amihartz
      @amihartz 9 лет назад +2

      TheRojam12 Magic. c:
      All it really is is photons knocking electrons from atoms, causing them to move, hence generating a flow of electricity.
      Unless you're going to try and build one from scratch you probably don't need to know much more than that.

    • @TheRojam12
      @TheRojam12 9 лет назад +1

      Amelia Hartman That does make sense, thank you, random citizen!!

    • @kiharapata
      @kiharapata 9 лет назад

      TheRojam12 google "photoelectric effect" if you wish to know more :3

  • @VirtualMayhem888
    @VirtualMayhem888 9 лет назад

    How do this channel have less than a million subscribers ? :P
    Awesome vid !!

    • @jazeroth322
      @jazeroth322 9 лет назад

      Agree. It's illuminati as there PBS and not mainstream! (The triangle beast is keeping them down!)

  • @supersmily5SS5
    @supersmily5SS5 9 лет назад

    Guys I just had the best idea for a remake. Buck Bumble, in the dinosaur age!!!! Right after the meteor that supposedly broke everything, you'd play as a bee in the harsh aftermath trying to regrow dem plants. Not quite as radioactive as the original but it has plenty of potential.

  • @gracefinn1670
    @gracefinn1670 7 лет назад

    I have mangolia trees in my neighborhood!!

  • @SirAlex-jb5dl
    @SirAlex-jb5dl 9 лет назад

    Dear, Beegod.
    We don't talk much.
    But I wanna thank you for my existence.
    And your sacrifices.
    Amen.

  • @varunnikam
    @varunnikam 2 года назад

    I love bees and my first research project is on bees.

  • @applicableapple3991
    @applicableapple3991 4 года назад +1

    What about melipona bees

  • @535Pimpdoubt
    @535Pimpdoubt 9 лет назад +10

    Roses are usually red, violets are effing purple.

    • @Gytiss93
      @Gytiss93 9 лет назад +1

      Pimp Doubt i think what we call purple now, was blue. heard it somewhere, cant recall where.

    • @theMxiden6fF7re
      @theMxiden6fF7re 4 года назад

      @@Gytiss93 It's something that used to be called violet is now called blue.

  • @Aurora59730
    @Aurora59730 9 лет назад

    Could you do an episode on the 40 fruit tree? Thanks!

  • @sujatamourya8676
    @sujatamourya8676 7 лет назад +1

    Wow what a interesting thing we came to known

  • @Kd8OUR
    @Kd8OUR 9 лет назад

    A good portion of our staple crops are types of grasses... mammals owe far more to grasses and grass plains... Just saying. Grasses may be among the flowering plants but they rely on wind pollination. They either abandoned the complex relationships, with pollinators at least, or stayed with simple methods of pollination and evolved in other ways.

  • @hawkflurry
    @hawkflurry 9 лет назад +4

    Here's my two cents on evolutionary biology, using logic, not religion:
    If evolution is random, then why does every evolutionary biologist suggest that environmental conditions stimulated the genetic mutations? It seems more like a decision based change (intelligence) - due to the environmental factors.
    If symbiosis came about through evolution, there must have been a period of time when the plant developed a mutation in which it needed a pollinator, however, the pollinators haven't evolved at the same time, therefore the plant species would cease to exist, correct?
    Adenosine Triphosphate: this enzyme is essentially one of the most important factors of life - it provides energy to every cell. If energy was not able to be transformed from one form to another, then even the first life form would not be able to procreate. ATP motors show irreducible complexity, and each part is perfectly made to work together with all of the other parts.
    I have other, better arguments, however, I see no reason to continue, partly because there is sure to be an "evolutionary scientist" who would love to bash on my arguments using misconceptions and logical fallacies. Feel free to do so, however, I have spoken to biology professors, other evolutionary biologists, and searched the internet far and wide, and none have satisfied me with sufficient evidence for a counter-argument.

    • @MarioFanGamer659
      @MarioFanGamer659 8 лет назад +2

      The reason, evolution is random but also depends on enviroment is because all animals which aren't suited for their enviroment, likely dies.
      You can thing of dice: Throw 100 of them and put all away whose number isn't one/ is one/ is odd/ etc. Then throw the reminding ones again untill you are left with one. That's the basic idea of the natural selection.

    • @applicableapple3991
      @applicableapple3991 4 года назад

      Evolution is not just random, it is also adaption

    • @applicableapple3991
      @applicableapple3991 4 года назад

      @@MarioFanGamer659 natural selection is not random (well, sometimes there are random mutations, which aren't always good). The species that are better adapted to an environment have a higher survival chance (the differences aren't always physical, it could be how it thinks), thus, more of them will survive. The ones who do not survive i.e. the less adapted ones, will eventually die out. Th eonly ones left will be the better adapted species. This carries on and on

  • @terakhanthis
    @terakhanthis 9 месяцев назад

    Without watching the video, the flowers. A flower can have its pollen spread by the wind, or by being brushed by a passing animal. A pollinator cannot become a pollinator, without the pollen in the first place.

  • @winstondeblanc5836
    @winstondeblanc5836 7 лет назад

    How about this, day one: planets, space, time, light. day two: Atmosphere. Day three: dry land, plants (including flowers). day four: sun, moon, and stars. day five: sea, and flying animals (including bees).day six: land animals.

  • @nebebudala
    @nebebudala 9 лет назад

    You're doing a really great job... keep it up :))

  • @KeithMarrocco
    @KeithMarrocco 9 лет назад

    Those wildflowers look suspiciously Texan. Is that perhaps the Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center? I've never been there, but my mother volunteered as a docent when she lived in Austin.

    • @KeithMarrocco
      @KeithMarrocco 9 лет назад

      And if I'd waited to the end I'd have had my answer.

  • @dragonlord2461
    @dragonlord2461 9 лет назад

    10/10 Love the video!

  • @PigCreekHomestead
    @PigCreekHomestead 9 лет назад

    Great video guys! :)

    • @erikjohansson4275
      @erikjohansson4275 9 лет назад

      The Bunyip Beekeeper Change your name to 'flower' and type in "first" in the comment section.

  • @HajoBenzin1
    @HajoBenzin1 9 лет назад +3

    1:43 amy from the big bang theory!!!

    • @Thumbsupurbum
      @Thumbsupurbum 9 лет назад +2

      HajoBenzin1 Well I don't watch Big Bang Theory so I don't know if it's the same girl or not. But that photo is a reference to Mayim Bialik from the tv show Blossom.

    • @HajoBenzin1
      @HajoBenzin1 9 лет назад +5

      yep, thats amy from the big bang theory.

    • @visibletoonlyyoutubeusers9574
      @visibletoonlyyoutubeusers9574 6 лет назад

      And no kudos for the pun " blossomed " and accompanying "Bad-am -tss " music at 1:43 ? Ha-Ha.

    • @melmelodies8730
      @melmelodies8730 6 лет назад +1

      I screamed MAYIM BIALICK YAYAYAYAYAYAY

  • @glacialvojta
    @glacialvojta 9 лет назад

    (before watching the video)
    Flowers don't use bees only, the could live with other insects, animals and wind.

    • @justmehere34
      @justmehere34 9 лет назад

      Vojta Sekera We know. You probably should of watched the video FIRST

  • @alix_bnd
    @alix_bnd 2 года назад

    amazing

  • @happylearningwithsumita
    @happylearningwithsumita 6 лет назад

    Awesome ....

  • @Internextion
    @Internextion 7 лет назад

    When a bee shows up during recess and your the only one still there.

  • @buckley9450
    @buckley9450 9 лет назад

    What does pbs mean

  • @GBart
    @GBart 8 лет назад

    Do you think there's been a trend over the course of evolution, at least since the Cambrian, away from predation and towards symbiosis? Cause it seems like it... and I hope so...

  • @Tggfdbhfbb
    @Tggfdbhfbb Год назад

    So you’re telling me my FAVORITE creature is the reason I exist?? 😭😭

  • @RealJustJason
    @RealJustJason 8 лет назад +2

    I suddenly wonder how pollen tastes.

    • @Jakubkolo2000
      @Jakubkolo2000 5 лет назад

      Rather spicy, a bit sour. Little crunchy. I would say rather nice. And it's super healthy. Full of vitamins and stuff

  • @penand_paper5112
    @penand_paper5112 9 лет назад

    It is theorized that the first pollinator was a Beatle, not a bee.

  • @jeffreyslott3883
    @jeffreyslott3883 9 лет назад +2

    I would like to see a video explaining how the alleged meteor strike that killed off the dinosaurs didn't do likewise to the insects, the flowers, the dinosaur ancestors of birds, the insignificant mammals, et. al.

  • @omrik99
    @omrik99 7 лет назад +1

    Did you see the mantis?

  • @RAUFBEDAR
    @RAUFBEDAR 3 года назад

    You can make it great teacher on top of it you’re so funny lol thank you for sharing

  • @misterrpger8591
    @misterrpger8591 9 лет назад

    so basically flowers came before bees, they were wasps then turned into bees that helped the flowers reproduce again ? so the answer is flowers came first ?
    someone please reply , little lost

  • @jessicalee333
    @jessicalee333 6 лет назад

    "I'm sorry your grandmother died, here's a bundle of another species' genitalia to look at and smell." Flowers are WEIRD!

  • @rl7012
    @rl7012 Год назад

    So you are saying that wasps randomly turned into bees?

  • @mayyahbhatti4425
    @mayyahbhatti4425 7 лет назад

    'a circle has no beginning nor an end'

  • @RRBuilderYT
    @RRBuilderYT 8 лет назад

    i know what about butter flies or just flies O.o?

  • @animefreek217
    @animefreek217 9 лет назад

    So how do we save the bees??

  • @PoetMountain
    @PoetMountain 9 лет назад +1

    Charles Darwin called Flowers an Abdominal Mystery!

  • @hannahk24
    @hannahk24 7 лет назад

    So,all conifer pants have a "wind"man?

  • @insulareshdxo9454
    @insulareshdxo9454 6 лет назад

    Plants first then living creatures,
    Besides flowers can self-pollinate

  • @Aranalgo
    @Aranalgo 9 лет назад +1

    I got a suggest for your next video, which came first me or me.

    • @prestonhall5171
      @prestonhall5171 9 лет назад

      UniqueHacK3R | HD | Official shut up you

    • @Aranalgo
      @Aranalgo 9 лет назад

      Preston Hall what did i do?

    • @prestonhall5171
      @prestonhall5171 9 лет назад

      UniqueHacK3R | HD | Official lol it was a joke haha your good man your good

    • @Aranalgo
      @Aranalgo 9 лет назад

      adagioforstrings007 it was a joke, like your life and grammar.

    • @patrickhodson8715
      @patrickhodson8715 7 лет назад

      UniqueHacK3R | HD | Official
      I feel like you shouldn't criticize his grammar, when your original comment says "I got a suggest for your next video."

  • @amirschultschik9725
    @amirschultschik9725 7 лет назад +2

    in all known laws on aviation, there is no way that bees should be able to fly

  • @nicsnort
    @nicsnort 9 лет назад +1

    Save the bees!

  • @Doodlemationz
    @Doodlemationz 7 лет назад

    Instead of treating myself, since it's my birthday, I am just watching this.

  • @brandonbooker3775
    @brandonbooker3775 8 лет назад

    So did flowering plants evolve before the first fruit?

    • @willengelmann6303
      @willengelmann6303 8 лет назад

      I think so

    • @TMtheScratcher
      @TMtheScratcher 8 лет назад

      +brandon booker No, Ginkgo for example has fruit-like things. Fruits are just there to package the semen. It's also an advantage which needs interactions with animals.

  • @Scottfab
    @Scottfab 9 лет назад

    UV vision isn't unique to bees, almost all insects have UV/blue/green trichromatic vision (as opposed to our own blue/green/red). Tiny nitpick aside, great work It's Okay To Be Smart!

  • @remember5th11
    @remember5th11 9 лет назад

    Hey, can you talk about the Dr Frank Fenner's theory about human extinction that was recently reiterated by David Auerbach and what we, as species, can do about it?

  • @NarfIarg
    @NarfIarg 9 лет назад +7

    A bee tongue is something i didn't expect. Kinda gross.

    • @PeppoMusic
      @PeppoMusic 9 лет назад +3

      ***** Here, have a closeup! : bybio.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/bumblebee-tongue.jpg
      Their 'tongues' are actually more like mops that soak up the low viscous nectar using a high density of follicles and the surface tension of the nectar, isn't nature amazing?

    • @Xenro66
      @Xenro66 9 лет назад

      Pepijn Rietveld That's awesome, didn't expect that.

    • @NemosChannel
      @NemosChannel 9 лет назад

      Pepijn Rietveld that picture was not as gross as I thought it would be.

  • @raiyantalukder6807
    @raiyantalukder6807 7 лет назад +1

    which came first? Chicken or Egg?

  • @davidsolt9669
    @davidsolt9669 8 лет назад

    flowers obviously

  • @vietthangho9262
    @vietthangho9262 7 лет назад

    Roses are red,
    Violets are blue,
    flowers new bees
    and bees need them too.

  • @chrisms6446
    @chrisms6446 9 лет назад

    Brings new meaning to "Those flowers are sexy"

  • @drakeaciago6491
    @drakeaciago6491 3 года назад

    so insects are the tinder of the plant kingdom?

  • @BDroeger
    @BDroeger 3 года назад +1

    The gaping whole in this explanation is how a flower biomechanically achieved nectar through random mutation over time. What does it take for a flower to make nectar ... It must be a series of events all to attract a bug that does not yet exist. Random mutation over time does not build complex structures. Creationism is the only logical explanation.

  • @gabrielRcorrea3
    @gabrielRcorrea3 9 лет назад

    great!