Most interesting fact about the MP 18 is the MP 3000 which is a German copy of the Sten gun which is a simplified version of the Lancaster SMG which is a British copy of the German MP 28 which itself is an refined version of the MP 18!
Yeah...um...Dad here...I'm going to inflict this AWEOME "dad joke" on one of my unsuspecting boys....of course, if they didn't expect it...I have failed as a dad. This is the TRUE life balance.
I loved how Captain K used it in the movie instead of a newer SMG. The whole idea of his outfit was about showing he was loyal to Germany but not the Nazis (and implying he was gay), the deliberate use of a World War 1 weapon shows just how knowledgeable and dedicated the crew were in designing it.
uh thats not from jojo rabbit? sam rockwell plays that character. the thumbnail is a asian man from the movie assassination which is shown in this video
I've always liked the design of the MP-18. I used it a lot in BF1 and it became my main SMG in the game. The MP-18 really has such an incredible legacy with all the successor models and other weapons based on it going all the way to WW2.
Honestly never knew the MP-18 existed, only closest thing to that I knew was the Sten but I've loved the MP-18 ever since BF1. Thank you for this vid covering the MP-18 and I hope you also had a great Christmas.
Rat Patrol is so epic lol. Sorry if I've mentioned it before but you need to watch Combat! If you haven't. By far the best written and acted series of the late 50s/60s tv era. Also interesting to see a somewhat rare relic of TV at the time; alternating between two leading actors. This is something pretty common in lower budget westerns but in such a character-driven show like Combat!, the differences between the two leads, naturally becomes very apparent. Rick Jason plays it very cold and professional, being a model soldier for the men. Vic Morrow's character is almost physically draining to watch as he looks so tired and sick of war but i find him more interesting when we get to see the actually kind, thoughtful man who is buried under all the weariness. Not many other series of the time did that much with the characters so it stands out as a special thing for me
the US Army had something worse in the Great War's trenches than the MP18 - the Winchester M1897 shotgun. The Germans complained about this "barbaric weapon" & said they would start executing US POWs if we didn't cease using shotguns. The US ambassador in Switzerland sent a letter to the German ambassador to forward to the German High Command "let's not hear anymore about this... we have a lot more German POWs, and regarding barbaric weapons, didn't you invent the flamethrower & poison gas?"
As cool as that story is, it's mostly myth. The trench guns barely saw frontline use in France and had all sorts of issues with the 12 Gauge cartridges of the time. They were made of paper and tended to swell or become useless when damp. While it's true the Germans did make a complaint, the trench gun was mostly used to guard POWs and was not the famous "trench sweeper" people often talk about.
The gun was extensively used in the Spanish Civil War, both licensed (and unlicensed!) copies aswell as imports, by both sides. It was referred to as the "Naranjero" which means Orange Tree. The licensed variant was chambered for 9x23 (Spanish 9mm Largo). It saw service into the 60s with the Gendarmerie. If you see an MP-28 with a charging handle in the shape of a T rather than a slim hook, it's of spanish manufacture. If it's got a foregrip, it's usually postwar.
The MP-18 was also used in BIGGLES the WW1 fanatasy/time travel film. Unfortunately I missed that scene when the British Pilots escape the Prussian firing squad and "UFO ' battlefield scene.
Whenever I think of a story set in the 1920s or 30s with 2 factions fighting each over some artifact or expedition. The MP-18/28 I always have as the bad guy weapons while 1921/28 thompson as the good guy weapon.
@@weaston243Unlikely it was actually issued to the Canadian Mountie by the government. It was probably brought back by him or another Canadian soldier after the first world war.
I remember seeing an original Mp18 with a snail drum magazine in the Australian War Memorial Canberra many years ago. (For all the foreigners Canberra is actually our Capital City not Sydney).
Johnny, I’m sure you’re aware but your view/like ratio is consistently mind blowing. Some people are lucky to get 1 like per 100 views, you consistently hit 1 like for every 10 views Keep it up mane
The MP18 deserves a lot more attention. For being the first mass-produced SMG to see combat, it’s impressive how well it performed, even if it wasn’t perfect. It also just looks cool asf.
Given that several of the films shown aren't American the answer is no. For example Assassination is a 2015 South Korean film that was partially filmed in China. The Keep was a Hollywood film, but was filmed mainly in Wales and on a soundstage in England.
@@inversion66 Oh no, not every single one, but there are armories in Hollywood that rent/provide firearms, so for the American ones I wonder if it might be the same gun from the same armory.
Practically every country post-WW1 made or bought an MP-18 or variant in some way that plus almost every WW2 shooter has at least one MP-28 or some other variant
Would’ve been interesting if, when discussing the Villar Perosa, you had used the clip of one from The Sicilian. Although that prop was fabricated from 2 regular SMGs, with a wooden front grip from a Bren gun.
IIRC, the RN version of the Lanchester or perhaps all of them had a lot of brass fittings, presumably to avoid corrosion, or to give bored sailors something to polish so they don't get into trouble.
For a brief period the Alberta Provincial Police were the best armed police in Canada. This is somewhat justified in the fact that the APP was involved in a number of large and deadly shootouts with American and interprovincial bootlegging gangsters, especially along the Crowsnest Pass on the south west border with British Colombia and Montana.
This channel often makes me think "I must watch that Film" when I see the name top-left in the clips. Thank you so much for making me avoid watching 'New Kids Turbo' . . .
Cheers Johnny. Isn't WW1 era firearm development fascinating? WW2 saw the maturation of some ideas originating here but WW1 era has some truly freakish ideas on offer. But don't let the video games fool you. Not everyone was running around with hellreigels!
The Keep, a 1983 horror film by Michael Mann, based on the book of the same name by F. Paul Wilson. German troops in Romania in 1941 accidentally unleash a force of evil in an ancient castle, and a champion soon arrives to battle it.
I thought that bad sci-fi movie at the beginning was at least period correct with small arms and realistic with the results on a dinosaur. Hate when movies act like a bullet wouldn't work on something big
I watched Assassination on Tubi a couple of weeks ago and it was a bit of a surprise to see it. But China was a big market for guns between the world wars, so a Korean hitman having one isn't that unlikely. SIG made versions were imported into China, and as was often the case Chinese arms factories made copies, just like they made copies of guns like the Mauser C96 pistol and Thompson submachine gun.
Yeah ... all these gun designers that have the magazine sticking out the side. I guess (???) they did that so the mag wouldn't be in the dirt for someone firing it prone. .
Your videos are great and your humor has perfect delivery and timing. Video idea: Former German WWII Kriegsmarine ships that became property of the allies after the war. I have an autographed photo of Bertold Schnibbe, the last captain of the Horst Wessel. He is wearing his Kriegsmarine uniform and makes mention of the Eagle. If you would like to put together a video on it, I can point you in the direction of information and send a picture of the photograph to you. I'll warn you that it could be a longer video. But we, your fans, would still watch it. Your videos are that good.
I have a unfortunately (till I have the licensing to fix that) deactivated/demilled MP18,I and a couple of additional things is despite the magazines size its not all that obscuring for a sight picture, whats really a hinderance is the weight, pulling the thing down drastically to one side, especially with a loaded drum. Granted im no where near the average height or build for the time but the mp18 really doesnt have any good way to hold it, by the magwell and your craning your hand terribly, by the grasping groove on the stock and its awkward with the magazines weight compounding it, and by the shroud theres just no good way to reload/swap magazines quickly. I love the mp18 to death but it really is an awkward thing to hold. Additionally as a random factoid, it was originally designed to take 20 round box magazines dubbed the "shmeisser system" at the time, which German ordinance denied, forcing Hugo to redesign certain aspects for the luger trommel mag since it was already in production last thing, in peak German fashion they designed the simplest functional mechanism for a gun and paired it with a magazine so complicated that literally winds like a clock, outstanding
Oh, good, the giant lizard was downed by guns... umm, is it OK to eat it though? Heard some Africans got poisoned when they reportedly ate a Mokele-mbembe example? 1:51: ...Just watch the movie. I can't give proper justice on describing the context. Overall, the thing sure looks and feels like a hybrid between an MP40 and a Sten.
Most interesting fact about the MP 18 is the MP 3000 which is a German copy of the Sten gun which is a simplified version of the Lancaster SMG which is a British copy of the German MP 28 which itself is an refined version of the MP 18!
Was just thinking about this yesterday
Ah, we had went full circle
Meanwhile, no one likes a smart ass
I disagree.
Smartasses are great!
@@stevenpeiper5538 give me a smart person instead of yet another proud to be ignorant dumbass any day
“…none the Schmeisser” the weapon-related pun that I didn’t know I needed. Until now! Merry New Year! 🎉👀😁
Yeah...um...Dad here...I'm going to inflict this AWEOME "dad joke" on one of my unsuspecting boys....of course, if they didn't expect it...I have failed as a dad. This is the TRUE life balance.
I love that you used Captain Klenzendorf for the thumbnail, Jojo rabbit is such a great movie lol.
Never seen it but the cinematography stands out to me when i see clips of it!
CAPTAIN K, WOOOOO!
I loved how Captain K used it in the movie instead of a newer SMG. The whole idea of his outfit was about showing he was loyal to Germany but not the Nazis (and implying he was gay), the deliberate use of a World War 1 weapon shows just how knowledgeable and dedicated the crew were in designing it.
uh thats not from jojo rabbit? sam rockwell plays that character. the thumbnail is a asian man from the movie assassination which is shown in this video
@gavinedgerton5880 ??
I've always liked the design of the MP-18. I used it a lot in BF1 and it became my main SMG in the game. The MP-18 really has such an incredible legacy with all the successor models and other weapons based on it going all the way to WW2.
Wow Johnny that Mountie with an MP18 must have been a rare find to make.
It's great to come upon photos like this
Not a mountie, Johnny explicitly and correctly stated that the officer in that photo was a part of the Alberta Provincial Police.
@MaxwellAerialPhotography appreciate the accuracy
I usually have a dad joke but this time I've come up MP with any sarcasm.
You’re my favorite commenter on this channel. Keep it up
@ExtantPerson thank you I do what I can.
Honestly never knew the MP-18 existed, only closest thing to that I knew was the Sten but I've loved the MP-18 ever since BF1. Thank you for this vid covering the MP-18 and I hope you also had a great Christmas.
It also served in Indonesia during the National Revolution and by the Korean Liberation Army during the Second Sino-Japanese War
Yeah, there were some very early pics from WW2, mostly internal security troops, but photos were rare.
First side clip SMG
It’s interesting to see that the MP-18 and the German Stormtroopers are getting some recognition as they are a interesting topic in my opinion of ww1
Opening with a Doug McClure moive, excellent choice. That was a good episode of MST3K
Rat Patrol is so epic lol.
Sorry if I've mentioned it before but you need to watch Combat! If you haven't. By far the best written and acted series of the late 50s/60s tv era.
Also interesting to see a somewhat rare relic of TV at the time; alternating between two leading actors. This is something pretty common in lower budget westerns but in such a character-driven show like Combat!, the differences between the two leads, naturally becomes very apparent.
Rick Jason plays it very cold and professional, being a model soldier for the men. Vic Morrow's character is almost physically draining to watch as he looks so tired and sick of war but i find him more interesting when we get to see the actually kind, thoughtful man who is buried under all the weariness.
Not many other series of the time did that much with the characters so it stands out as a special thing for me
I was getting scared there wasn’t gonna be any BF1 footage but thankfully there is.
*”FUR DEN KAISER!”*
FINALLY THE MP18!!!!! If you can't tell it's my favorite gun
That was a cold hearted pun at the end, you sure you wouldn't rather be called the Ice-Bergmann?
the US Army had something worse in the Great War's trenches than the MP18 - the Winchester M1897 shotgun. The Germans complained about this "barbaric weapon" & said they would start executing US POWs if we didn't cease using shotguns. The US ambassador in Switzerland sent a letter to the German ambassador to forward to the German High Command "let's not hear anymore about this... we have a lot more German POWs, and regarding barbaric weapons, didn't you invent the flamethrower & poison gas?"
Ash from Evil Dead: Listen up you Germans. This is my War Crime Stick.
As cool as that story is, it's mostly myth. The trench guns barely saw frontline use in France and had all sorts of issues with the 12 Gauge cartridges of the time. They were made of paper and tended to swell or become useless when damp. While it's true the Germans did make a complaint, the trench gun was mostly used to guard POWs and was not the famous "trench sweeper" people often talk about.
The gun was extensively used in the Spanish Civil War, both licensed (and unlicensed!) copies aswell as imports, by both sides. It was referred to as the "Naranjero" which means Orange Tree.
The licensed variant was chambered for 9x23 (Spanish 9mm Largo). It saw service into the 60s with the Gendarmerie.
If you see an MP-28 with a charging handle in the shape of a T rather than a slim hook, it's of spanish manufacture. If it's got a foregrip, it's usually postwar.
For some reason I really love the asthetics of the MP18 and MP28 so much that I had to buy an airsoft replica of it.
The MP-18 was also used in BIGGLES the WW1 fanatasy/time travel film. Unfortunately I missed that scene when the British Pilots escape the Prussian firing squad and "UFO ' battlefield scene.
Next week's episode " Biggeles Flys undone "
Whenever I think of a story set in the 1920s or 30s with 2 factions fighting each over some artifact or expedition. The MP-18/28 I always have as the bad guy weapons while 1921/28 thompson as the good guy weapon.
If it's Chicago gangsters versus Canadian police hunting some first nation artifact, you could get the reverse situation!
Love your selection of movies ;)
Great video again Johnny!
This guys channel is amazing
Seeing Doug McLure in action made me so happy. I am that generation.
Wild to see a Canadian mountie with one!
You’d be surprised to know how many countries this weapon served in
@larryalvares1369 I just don't think of Canadian Police force when thinking about adopters of the first successful submachine gun!
@@weaston243 Maybe a response to US Prohibition gangster cross-border activity?
@@weaston243Unlikely it was actually issued to the Canadian Mountie by the government. It was probably brought back by him or another Canadian soldier after the first world war.
I really love these old school early sub machine guns.
The sheer variety of the MP-18 and its cousins between WW1 and WW2 sure goes way over the Berg, Mann.
Hugo Schmeisser just casually invents two entirely new weapon types that are still in use today
Very odd that this video pops up as i get a email saying the book i ordered, which has a chapter on this said the store run out of the book.
Coincidence....
Is the Algemeine SS soldier in "the Keep" movie Rick Mayal back in 1983 ??! I think the keep is a great horror movie missing 60 minutes or so....!!
Rik Mayal was an extra in "Eye of the Needle ""
I remember seeing an original Mp18 with a snail drum magazine in the Australian War Memorial Canberra many years ago. (For all the foreigners Canberra is actually our Capital City not Sydney).
Also in the armory of Troy McClure.
Johnny, I’m sure you’re aware but your view/like ratio is consistently mind blowing. Some people are lucky to get 1 like per 100 views, you consistently hit 1 like for every 10 views
Keep it up mane
Thanks for the positivity ❤️❤️
@ thank you!
Neat that the MP18 ended up in the hands of the APP back in the day. If only they could talk...
The MP18 deserves a lot more attention. For being the first mass-produced SMG to see combat, it’s impressive how well it performed, even if it wasn’t perfect. It also just looks cool asf.
4:02 the guy shooting at Indy doesn’t just run out of ammo his gun seems to dismantle itself witch is odd
Watching Johnny's various Hollywood clips of such a rare weapon, I am again left wondering - is it the SAME exact subgun in each film?
Given that several of the films shown aren't American the answer is no. For example Assassination is a 2015 South Korean film that was partially filmed in China. The Keep was a Hollywood film, but was filmed mainly in Wales and on a soundstage in England.
@@inversion66 Oh no, not every single one, but there are armories in Hollywood that rent/provide firearms, so for the American ones I wonder if it might be the same gun from the same armory.
Maybe the real friends were the MP-18s we made along the way
Well done sir.
Practically every country post-WW1 made or bought an MP-18 or variant in some way
that plus almost every WW2 shooter has at least one MP-28 or some other variant
I briefly had a British Lanchester with a 50 round magazine. It was a heavy solid beast that was very stable when shooting.
Every once in a while I'll learn of a new to me movie from your videos.
Moviehead are you? Good
Remember about the Tsing Tao ? It's based on SIG M1920 which the mags are upside down. The short is, it's MP 18 with upside down magazine.
Excellent video
Would’ve been interesting if, when discussing the Villar Perosa, you had used the clip of one from The Sicilian. Although that prop was fabricated from 2 regular SMGs, with a wooden front grip from a Bren gun.
Never miss your videos. They are so entertaining and informative
Video on the Skorpion and FN P90 would be cool. Also known as the Klobb and RCP90 from Goldeneye N64.
That scene from the land that time forgot gave me friggin nightmares as a 10 year old...
great video
2:20 the keep is an underrated but crazy film … in my mind at least 😊
IIRC, the RN version of the Lanchester or perhaps all of them had a lot of brass fittings, presumably to avoid corrosion, or to give bored sailors something to polish so they don't get into trouble.
Battlefield 1 belike every nation in WW1 had the MP-18 as a standard-issue rifle.
Can you make a video on the Villar perosa and the Beretta Revelli?
MP-28's were also used, anachronistically, in the WWI scenes in Biggles: Adventures in Time. Though it's a time travel film so no biggy.
For a brief period the Alberta Provincial Police were the best armed police in Canada. This is somewhat justified in the fact that the APP was involved in a number of large and deadly shootouts with American and interprovincial bootlegging gangsters, especially along the Crowsnest Pass on the south west border with British Colombia and Montana.
This channel often makes me think "I must watch that Film" when I see the name top-left in the clips.
Thank you so much for making me avoid watching 'New Kids Turbo' . . .
HEUJ, Das dn mp18 jongeuh!
Cheers Johnny. Isn't WW1 era firearm development fascinating? WW2 saw the maturation of some ideas originating here but WW1 era has some truly freakish ideas on offer. But don't let the video games fool you. Not everyone was running around with hellreigels!
What movie is it where the guy has green/ blue blood?
The Keep, a 1983 horror film by Michael Mann, based on the book of the same name by F. Paul Wilson. German troops in Romania in 1941 accidentally unleash a force of evil in an ancient castle, and a champion soon arrives to battle it.
I have BF1 to thank for introducing me to this weapon.
Good ,comprehensive account.
At last! A monster that isn't bullet-proof.
Barrel shrouds are illegal in California because they look too assaulty.
Would love a arisaka or bambu rifle Video:D
*nambu
Dammit, can't remember if the grandma's SMG in Hot Fuzz is a MP28 or a Lanchester... Must rewatch it to confirm 🤔
03:30 Uh, no? He's not holding it correctly, as you described. He should be holding it by those horizontal grooves in the stock
Well close enough to not damage the weapon
I find it funny that the name was Schmeisser... (it translates to thrower)
I thought that bad sci-fi movie at the beginning was at least period correct with small arms and realistic with the results on a dinosaur. Hate when movies act like a bullet wouldn't work on something big
Hell yeah ❤
None the Schmeiser lol........Thank you JJ my friend..........
Old nasty F-4 Shoe🇺🇸
Wooden stocked submachine guns are very sexy.
take a look towards the suomi-submachinegun
didn't expected korean movie would be referenced for mp28 lol
I watched Assassination on Tubi a couple of weeks ago and it was a bit of a surprise to see it. But China was a big market for guns between the world wars, so a Korean hitman having one isn't that unlikely. SIG made versions were imported into China, and as was often the case Chinese arms factories made copies, just like they made copies of guns like the Mauser C96 pistol and Thompson submachine gun.
Yeah ... all these gun designers that have the magazine sticking out the side. I guess (???) they did that so the mag wouldn't be in the dirt for someone firing it prone.
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Your videos are great and your humor has perfect delivery and timing.
Video idea:
Former German WWII Kriegsmarine ships that became property of the allies after the war.
I have an autographed photo of Bertold Schnibbe, the last captain of the Horst Wessel. He is wearing his Kriegsmarine uniform and makes mention of the Eagle. If you would like to put together a video on it, I can point you in the direction of information and send a picture of the photograph to you. I'll warn you that it could be a longer video. But we, your fans, would still watch it. Your videos are that good.
Popped up the weapon the Nazi's use in this Indiana Jones game...
I have a unfortunately (till I have the licensing to fix that) deactivated/demilled MP18,I and a couple of additional things is despite the magazines size its not all that obscuring for a sight picture, whats really a hinderance is the weight, pulling the thing down drastically to one side, especially with a loaded drum. Granted im no where near the average height or build for the time but the mp18 really doesnt have any good way to hold it, by the magwell and your craning your hand terribly, by the grasping groove on the stock and its awkward with the magazines weight compounding it, and by the shroud theres just no good way to reload/swap magazines quickly. I love the mp18 to death but it really is an awkward thing to hold. Additionally as a random factoid, it was originally designed to take 20 round box magazines dubbed the "shmeisser system" at the time, which German ordinance denied, forcing Hugo to redesign certain aspects for the luger trommel mag since it was already in production
last thing, in peak German fashion they designed the simplest functional mechanism for a gun and paired it with a magazine so complicated that literally winds like a clock, outstanding
Always figured that guy in the last crusade had a sten
Sounds like a potential New Vegas mod. (If you’ve ever been to Nexus)
Always happy to see new kids XDDD
just like the airplane the SMG started out as awkward and funky
Heeeerrreeesssss Johnny! Great video as always I’m assuming.
Was indeed a great video as always.
Oh, good, the giant lizard was downed by guns... umm, is it OK to eat it though? Heard some Africans got poisoned when they reportedly ate a Mokele-mbembe example?
1:51: ...Just watch the movie. I can't give proper justice on describing the context.
Overall, the thing sure looks and feels like a hybrid between an MP40 and a Sten.
The first sub machine gun
With a magazine that looks like a music note when taken out
Have a happy New Year Johnny
i am watching it with the boys to teach them german
so how is german language teaching going?
der yogurt, das yoghurt?
@bastiaan7777777 der Jogurt
L’escargot pas le droit 😊
Fast firing gun with snail mag? How?
MP 18,Machine Pistol année 1918
new kids jongeuh!!!
Do not show disrespect to a true classic movie "The land that time forgot".
That weapon did appear in season 34 of The Simpsons during grandfather Ned Flanders' past, one of the members of the Szyslak family uses that weapon.
Dang I totally don't remember that. It would have been a good inclusion!
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq No problem, I'm just a fan of weapons and some series.
Sexiest gun of ww1
I suggest videos on the:
MP-34
M-67 grenade
Spatha Sword
Bayonet
Brown Bess musket
Remington 870
M1911 colt
Colt Peacemaker
BOOO on the pun ;)
Sont chargeur celui du luger
Is this AI voiced?
実際、この時代の銃だけが好きなんですよ。
Machine pistol 1918
I have an airsoft mp-28, my most beautiful one I own
who
cares?
@bastiaan7777777 You are so cool
@@lairdmurray8957 Love you
MP 18 or whatnot
Are you fighting godzilla?
NIEMAND KOMT AAN MAASKANTJE
World's worst pun!