Celestial Navigation: Celestial Position Fix

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
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    ---------ABOUT THE VIDEO---------
    This video was originally uploaded to our other channel, Casual Navigation, back in 2018.
    Celestial Navigation is one of the skills that can mark you out as a true navigator.
    In this video, I show you how to complete a full celestial position fix so that you can use your sextant for celestial navigation.
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Комментарии • 82

  • @frankstocker5475
    @frankstocker5475 2 года назад +53

    This video made me appreciate GPS even more.

    • @agussalim6479
      @agussalim6479 Год назад

      Me too 😂

    • @carmelogenius
      @carmelogenius Год назад

      Hahaha lol

    • @Lyondegreat
      @Lyondegreat 4 месяца назад

      I mean like Bro! I can't recall the last time I punched Sin or Cos on any calculator. 😂😂🤣🤣

  • @liutaurasgrybauskas8377
    @liutaurasgrybauskas8377 2 года назад +28

    The video: "Entertainment purposes only"
    Me: continues to use this to prepare for celestial navigation exam

    • @FernandoLXIX
      @FernandoLXIX 2 года назад

      Hahah same here

    • @edwardfalk9997
      @edwardfalk9997 Год назад +1

      What school do you go to that requires a celestial navigation exam?

    • @gdzdzdz2762
      @gdzdzdz2762 Год назад

      Same

    • @gdzdzdz2762
      @gdzdzdz2762 Год назад +5

      @@edwardfalk9997 I thought that all marine universities require this

    • @babotond
      @babotond 15 дней назад

      y'all passed? 😂

  • @buster5643
    @buster5643 Год назад +8

    By the time i finished all this math id be 300 nautical miles off course 😅
    Excellent video however i now know a lot more

    • @Lyondegreat
      @Lyondegreat 4 месяца назад

      Fellow dullard spotted, sup mate? 😂😂🤣🤣

  • @abdulkkhan5095
    @abdulkkhan5095 Год назад

    Thank you, great tutorial for Celestial navigation.

  • @JulieanGalak
    @JulieanGalak 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video series. I have no practical use for this, but being a fan of Forrester and O'Brien, I've always wanted to understand more about how this worked. One can really appreciate how much harder it would have been in the Age of Sail without calculators or accurate chronometers....

  • @edwardfalk9997
    @edwardfalk9997 Год назад +3

    This is a great video. Good point about pre-calculating the altitudes and azimuths of the stars.

    • @marcg1686
      @marcg1686 26 дней назад

      'Good point about pre-calculating the altitudes and azimuths of the stars.' Indeed, that is why HO249 Vol.1 is so popular.

  • @imamdermawan533
    @imamdermawan533 3 года назад +1

    As far i see video about this .. this is the best .. no debat

  • @davecooper5951
    @davecooper5951 2 месяца назад +1

    Very good explanation. A trig' ready-reckoner could be useful for the final chart fix perhaps (or, a scientific calculator). I've just returned from a trip on the "Royal Clipper" (Caribbean) and the navigating officer took me through their star maps and sextant use for Sirius, Betelgeuse and the Big Dipper (Plough). Unfortunately, the Southern Cross wasn't visible those nights.....Nice to know they can still do it the 'old fashioned' way ! I did also practice taking bearings from the ship's port compass which was gimballed and had very good sighting rings.

  • @TheMachineAnthem
    @TheMachineAnthem 3 года назад +6

    Very useful videos.. im attending first class now, its refreshing

    • @maideravenna8956
      @maideravenna8956 3 года назад

      We don't give a FUCK about u attending whatsoever, u get it?

    • @djefr
      @djefr 3 года назад

      @@maideravenna8956 wow

  • @jamesclarity1077
    @jamesclarity1077 2 года назад

    Thank you!

  • @muhammadyunus1877
    @muhammadyunus1877 Год назад

    Great job,

  • @jomaragosita6518
    @jomaragosita6518 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you very much for the review of this subject.

  • @milovanbojovic4697
    @milovanbojovic4697 2 года назад

    Very nice

  • @adityast7501
    @adityast7501 2 года назад

    Thank you

  • @diligentsun1154
    @diligentsun1154 3 месяца назад

    When i can do this correctly and confidentially, deserve to be Captain and Commander, without a doubt

  • @raphi72
    @raphi72 9 месяцев назад +1

    At the end, you forget to mention the clock. It is not just the position of stars, but the combination of stars and time, which lets you calculate your position.

  • @captainphil2023
    @captainphil2023 2 года назад +2

    Well done! If you're already marked your DR on the paper chart, then you can just use the compass rose, and your dividers, to measure 110' and 5.1NM from the DR. In that case you don't need the last calculation. Have you served the in merchant marine?

    • @jomaragosita6518
      @jomaragosita6518 8 месяцев назад

      Yes filipino seafarer here nice video the last part is interesting yet the reality on board we will directly measured it in the latitude scale on the ploting chart. God bless my friend.

  • @diligentsun1154
    @diligentsun1154 3 месяца назад

    Get it Right, or be lost at sea, forever.
    Not for dummies, At All.
    Very VERY Important!

  • @SuperSampling
    @SuperSampling 3 года назад +1

    Maybe a good thing to do is to put the link to the playlist into the video description?

  • @giuseppevaccarella7032
    @giuseppevaccarella7032 Год назад +1

    More over: instead of calculating final fix, u can reproduce a scaled mercator chart and track everything with a divider

  • @georgesaguna
    @georgesaguna 3 года назад +1

    Correct me if I am wrong but as far as I know the sunrise and sunset times are in local time not GMT. If it were GMT the sunrise of a location at 180E would be 15hours before, 1800 local time. Other then that on a northern course for 24hours would give you a flat of 4.8 degrees. Had it been on a course of 090 or 270 then the times wouldn’t have changed.

    • @captainphil2023
      @captainphil2023 2 года назад

      The times are converted to GMT purely for calculation purposes, to extract things like LHA, SHA, dec. etc. from the Almanac. So it would be the GMT time, at the time the sun is rising/setting in your longitude. This video is not about sun, it's about stars.

  • @edwardfalk9997
    @edwardfalk9997 Год назад +1

    "Other videos in this series …" - could you create a playlist maybe?

  • @voncth5791
    @voncth5791 5 месяцев назад

    funny this channel starts with Casual

  • @SandhillGuitar
    @SandhillGuitar 4 года назад +3

    Don't let any salt water splash on your calculator while you mess with all those numbers!

  • @williamjcallahan1620
    @williamjcallahan1620 4 месяца назад

    Great job

  • @Masus04
    @Masus04 10 месяцев назад +2

    Are there any reliable methods to simplify this process? I am thinking about shooting the sun at noon which gives us our longitude more directly, or shooting polaris, which is usually directly to the north. Are there any other shortcuts that can help us create a simpler fix?

    • @marcg1686
      @marcg1686 8 месяцев назад +2

      The easiest way would be to calculate latitude at local apparent noon. Because you have the exact time (GMT) at which LAN occurred you can calculate your longitude.

    • @karhukivi
      @karhukivi Месяц назад +1

      @@marcg1686 The easiest, yes, but the longitude from a noon Sun sight is not so accurate. A morning and an evening sight with two position lines making an angle is better. Three PLs are even better still.

    • @marcg1686
      @marcg1686 Месяц назад

      @@karhukivi You are of course correct. The more PLs the better. However, we should not dismiss the basic utility of the intercept method, a single sight should be enough to get you within 20 nautical miles of your DR.
      You've been around for several years now. I've seen your comments oftentimes.
      Seems like you are looking out for flatwits, smearing themselves across the comments section of celnav videos. 👍
      How is your MK15 holding up? I don't see much of a difference between my MK 15 and my Cassens & Plaths.

    • @karhukivi
      @karhukivi Месяц назад +1

      @@marcg1686 Probably wasting my time but you never know, some of them are just trying to be clever and are what the psychologists term "wilfully ignorant" which is setting them on the road to failure. They pop up in schools and even university lectures, so I just try to address their comments, failure rate is probably 99%, but that 1% might be worth the bother.
      The Mark 15 is way better now after I bought another mirror from Davis. I don't know what the problem was with the index error always changing but now it is very steady. I had a holiday on the S. Coast of the UK last year and spent a lot of time doing land-based fixes with Sun, Moon and planets and was getting position errors of 1-2 miles, which is as good as it gets. Stars were a challenge and misidentification was a big problem.

    • @marcg1686
      @marcg1686 Месяц назад +1

      @@karhukivi I'm happy that your Mk15 is meeting expectations. I have two of them, one at home and the other at the office, and a Mk25. My Mk15s are my go to sextants.

  • @ruijorgemartinsarmada4957
    @ruijorgemartinsarmada4957 9 месяцев назад

    thank you!

  • @b1laxson
    @b1laxson Год назад

    Playlist not showing up on your channel page

  • @Jester343
    @Jester343 11 месяцев назад

    I dont know what this is and i dont know how i got here. But i like it.

  • @ibraheemtalash5094
    @ibraheemtalash5094 4 года назад +3

    is there a graphical mathod for this ?

    • @hortigas1
      @hortigas1 4 года назад +1

      Marq Saint Hilaire metod probably...

    • @captainphil2023
      @captainphil2023 2 года назад

      This is the graphical method.

    • @captainphil2023
      @captainphil2023 2 года назад +1

      @@hortigas1 this video is about Marc St Hiliare method.

  • @user-gy8yy7ic3i
    @user-gy8yy7ic3i 4 месяца назад +1

    Jeepers, how often would you make a fix and how quickly could an experienced navigator do this?

    • @karhukivi
      @karhukivi Месяц назад

      It takes me about 10 minutes, but an experienced navigator could probably do it faster.

  • @edwardfalk9997
    @edwardfalk9997 Год назад

    First video in series: ruclips.net/video/nc_nSMtU0c0/видео.html

  • @giuseppevaccarella7032
    @giuseppevaccarella7032 Год назад

    I transfer the lines at the instant of last observation...

  • @eatemadfanaee5954
    @eatemadfanaee5954 Год назад +1

    GOD bless GPS

  • @onemanoutfit
    @onemanoutfit 4 года назад +7

    the most complicated explanation ever of a simple process

  • @grabarz941
    @grabarz941 4 года назад +1

    Eeee macarena

  • @mfbfreak
    @mfbfreak 9 месяцев назад

    Bloody hell that stuff's complicated. How did people ever invent this?!

    • @karhukivi
      @karhukivi Месяц назад

      The same people who made maps and studied astronomy and developed mathematics.

  • @dontthrowrocksatmonkeys8651
    @dontthrowrocksatmonkeys8651 8 месяцев назад

    Oh man I would be so lost at sea.

  • @SYCANKIZ
    @SYCANKIZ Год назад +1

    haven't the slightest

  • @secondofficerashishsharma9191
    @secondofficerashishsharma9191 3 года назад

    Very informative but my Brian give up

  • @BlackScisir
    @BlackScisir Год назад

    This is hardcore math, bro.

  • @Lyondegreat
    @Lyondegreat 4 месяца назад

    Thank God for GPS, GLONASS, GALILEO and BeiDou system 😂😂
    ...and even the new Sky Map apps.

    • @karhukivi
      @karhukivi Месяц назад

      Until you sail into an area like the Gulf of Aden where the hostile parties have spoofed the various GPS systems. The UK and US Navies are teaching celestial navigation for that very reason.

  • @albertylade4575
    @albertylade4575 4 месяца назад

    When to use dr and ap? Im kinda confused, others are using ap, and here he's using dr 🤔🤔

    • @marcg1686
      @marcg1686 3 месяца назад +1

      If you use the sight reduction tables to determine Hc and Z the entry arguments (lat, dec and LHA) need to be whole integer. This requires you change the DR to give you whole numbers.
      An example. Your DR Longitude is 35°17' W. The GHA of the Sun is 97°41'.
      You modify you DR Long to 35°41' so that the LHA equals 62°(97°41' - 35°41'). Because you modified your DR position it becomes an assumed position.

    • @karhukivi
      @karhukivi Месяц назад +1

      @@marcg1686 That is correct. If you use a calculator to do the reduction then there is no need to have exact integers and your assumed position can be the dead reckoning position or a convenient Lat/Long position on the chart.

  • @user-de1xi4ho2b
    @user-de1xi4ho2b 4 месяца назад

    Are there any reliable methods to simplify this process? I am thinking about shooting the sun at noon which gives us our longitude more directly, or shooting polaris, which is usually directly to the north. Are there any other shortcuts that can help us create a simpler fix?

    • @karhukivi
      @karhukivi Месяц назад

      The noonday Sun fix is accurate for Latitude but not so good for Longitude as the top part of the curve seems to hang there for several minutes.

  • @user-rb4vs3mj6f
    @user-rb4vs3mj6f 4 месяца назад

    Very informative but my Brian give up

  • @captain-Dan
    @captain-Dan Год назад

    Jeepers, how often would you make a fix and how quickly could an experienced navigator do this?