I bought the two-person version of this tent at the beginning of the summer, and I'm very pleased with it so far. It's seen me through the wind, the rain, and seven nights on the North Boundary without anything going wrong. Literally my only complaint is that the zippers have a tendency to get stuck. That bear encounter also looked wild! I'm lucky to have never encountered a bear in the wild, but it seems like lately I see them from the car nearly every time I'm heading to or going home from a trip. I guess that's better than seeing them on the trail or at camp. Cheers from Calgary.
Zippers are the bain of much gear. I have a nice sleeping bag with a louzy zipper. Someone needs to invent a better zipper (which I believe is a Canadian invention). Cheers.
Thank you Marty for your update on Marmot tent . a lot of reviews on gear don't back them up with real world usage. I found this site as I wanted to purchase the 1p and did a search for reviews . It will be great for my solo trips to B.W.C.A.W. Mn canoe area . I have done meany trips there (15 - 20 ) and need to lighten the load out when i solo . As what i see of the bear , I believe you were in his path of travel as they have to respect other animals territory , or maybe it just wanted to say hi. Roy Boy. Happy Trails
Hi Roy. It's a great tent. I even use it in deep winter. I slept in in 3 nights a few weeks ago. For some summer trips where weight is absolutely at a premium, I purchased a TeePee from OneTigris that barely weighs 1 lb (if I leave the centre pole at home). It means sleeping directly on the ground, but it's very spacious. Cheers.
I have the 3P version of this tent, and after two seasons with it, I'm quite happy with it. It's hard to get the fly to have a nice taut pitch, but otherwise, it's a solid tent. It weathered a bad rainstorm last summer where others in camp ended up very wet. The bathtub floor can let a little splash-back in, but the upside is the large amount of mesh allows a lot of airflow and keeps weight down. I also like the "old fashioned" polyester fly that doesn't sag when wet like Silnylon. I use Easton pegs and added more guys and some hang-tabs in the interior. At 2kg spot on for a 3P tent, the weight is very acceptable. I used to be an MSR tent lover, but they've had some issues in the last few years.
Hey Marty! Another great video! I used the BRS stove you reviewed on my trip to Glacier last week and it worked perfectly. I had a big grizzly sow (300kg +) and her 2 cubs walk into my campsite the second night as I brushed my teeth before bed. She was 9 meters from me (I later measured it). She made a right turn when she saw me but stayed in the area for over an hour after dark. We had 9 people assembled in the common cooking area where we waited it out. Would be scary to be alone! I didn't sleep too well that night, but it all came out OK. Thanks again for the great videos!
Wow, Glacier Park or Glacier Lake (Banff)? I recommended Glacier Lake as a perfect place for a first-time soloist a few weeks ago. She'd be upset with me if she ran into a grizzly. Cheers.
@@Martyupnorth I was in Glacier National Park at Ellen Wilson Lake back country campground. I wanted to see bears on this trip- and I did! I got a grainy pic when they were in the field about 25 meters away, but you can only see eyes. It was very dark and smoky from the fires in the western states.
Thx for the review bud, so many considerations to make for a comfortable nights rest. Wow to close to call with that bear, after watching this I will make blind spots 1st for safety and sun rises to help drying process begin. Take care Bud..
You forgot to mention dead standing trees when picking a tent spot; I once camped in a birch forest which served as a bird sanctuary. It was littered with fallen branches, one big one came down in the middle of the night, hit the ground with a nice muffled thud. They just break off with no sound, no warning. The bird sanctuary was super noisy throughout the night - I like birds but maybe not 2000 of them all at once :) Thanks for the Marmot review. I'm looking into these "American" style tents where you pitch the inner tent first and then put the fly on. I've been using the Hilleberg Akto for 10 years now and it's time to update. The tent is more orange than red now, still waterproof tho. It would be nice to get a similar tent at around 2 pounds with a nice vestibule. A bear in your camp is sure to wake you up. In Norway we got the brown bear which runs away at first sight, same with the wolves. Stay safe!
Thanks. If that bear had been black or brown, it probably would have walked right up to me before I noticed it. The whiteness of his coat certainly made him more visible. Here's a video with the full encounter (ruclips.net/video/xRXAcsCLWeM/видео.html). Cheers
I have a Marmot Limestone 4 witch I have left standing in the woods for weeks at a time while archery hunting. I got 4 hard years out of it before a windstorm ripped the fly, it has been fantastic. Marty, Another advantage of poly is it resists UV better than nylon.
Good video update... I upgraded from the original Tungsten 1p to the UL 1p and love it. For the price, weight, and it being a freestanding tent makes it a great choice for any back country adventure. When using just the 6 stakes, I replaced with MSR Groundhog stakes, it’s a solid structure. Only when I set up in an exposed area where winds could be problematic will I use the guy lines and then I only use 2. I’ve never had a problem even during gale force winds. Curious why you gave up using a footprint? I love the one that you can purchase for this tent. Gives extra protection to the bottom of the tent while adding little weight (4.9oz) at a small extra expense. Also usually just the bottom of the footprint gets wet. I can use a small micro fiber towel to wipe down the footprint and then the sun/wind dries it out quickly. When I do laundry while camping I place my wet shirts, socks, underwear directly on the mesh on top of the tent and below the fly. Always dry by morning. Another key advantage you mention is the size of the tent footprint. It can fit into a tiny flat area compared to other non freestanding 1p tents that require multiple guy out points (think Z Pak). Like some of your viewers I thought a 1 person tent would be cramped and claustrophobic. To the contrary, with the large vestibule and the wider, tapered design, I find it quite cozy and comfortable. If you are a thru hiker where weight is your primary issue then this may not be your tent. For hundreds of dollars more you can shave about 1 lb of weight. Not worth it to me. Love this tent!
Great feedback. I just found that a ground sheet was extra weight for nothing. The extra protection was marginal. On the other hand, a ground sheet often trapped water between it and the tent floor, causing some to soak through. Cheers.
Martyupnorth its interesting, I see many comments questioning why the groundsheet that comes with a tent is smaller than the footprint of the tent. To your point, so that water doesn’t collect on the sheet and travel under your tent making your floor wet. I see many backpackers using Tyvek sheets that extend beyond the fly line; increasing the possibility of wetness in the tent floor. Good stuff Marty!
I always love watching your videos. I'm surprised you don't use a ground cloth. I use a piece of tubes (sp). Its light and very durable. I use to fold my tents very miraculously, but I was told over time it will create seams and over time the seams will fail. It is so much easier now to stuff it. Keep up the videos.
I have this as well but in orange. It's funny how much of the same gear we have. I usually tarp but I really like this tent when I do use it. I also like it much better in green but it only came in orange when I bought it. Have you ever used polycryo (that stuff you blow-dry over window in the winter) as a tent footprint?
Holy crap I watched the rest and wasn't expecting the bear encounter! That was crazy I was starting to worry it was a predatory situation.Have you ever read "Bear Attacks: Their Causes and Avoidance' by Stephen Herrero? I highly recommend it if you haven't. He was a U of C biologist.
I stopped using a ground sheet for my tents a long time ago. I have a teepee with no floor, and I though of using a piece of Tyvek for it. The polycryo seems a little too flimsy to use for a ground cover.
@@Martyupnorth It only seems that way :P That's what I thought as well because it's so thin and cheap but since trying it I've never gone back. The only bad part is that it makes that crinkling sound.
I ended up getting the 2 man of this tent shortly after returning home after last years trip. It wouldn't sleep 2 people my size very well, but it works for Jake and I. It's a great tent though! And what a price too. Funny, I put a small hole in the screen as well.
At 6'4" you must have a hard time finding any tent that really fits you well. That's one of the advantages of being a little guy like me. Winter season is already upon us. This time last year we were getting out first snow. Let's hope for a shorter winter this year. Cheers.
HI MARTY ! GLAD TO SEE YOU'RE OUT & ABOUT ! HOPE FAMILY & FRIENDS ARE OK WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON ! YES THAT WAS A LITTLE UNNERVING! A COUPLE YEARS BACK WHILE I WAS GETTING BREAKFAST READY & WAITING TO WAKE UP MY NEPHEW & WHILE MY BEST FRIEND CALLED ME TO LET ME KNOW HE MADE IT SAFELY HOME FROM HIS TRIP . MY NEPHEW WAS WITH ME NEAR THE CAMPFIRE. HEARD A BIG CRASH THOUGHT IT WAS A TREE FALLING . BUT SHORTLY AFTER WE'RE VISITED BY A BIG MOMMA BEAR , ONE HALF HER SIZE & TWO TWINS THE SIZE OF FULL GROWN ROTTWEILERS DODS . THEY STOPPED I GUESS THEY SMELT THE CAMPFIRE , LOOKED OUR WAY THEN JUST KEPT GOING DOWN IN THE VALLEY & UP OVER & DOWN INTO THE NEXT ONE . WE JUST STOOD THERE & WATCHED , A LOT DIFFERENT THAN BEING AT A ZOO / ETC NO WALLS / BARS TO PROTECT YOU ! WE ENDED STAYING AN EXTRA NIGHT 🌙 I'M GLAD EVERYTHING TURNED OUT GOOD ON YOUR TRIP , A LITTLE SCARY SINCE HE / SHE DIDN'T RUN AWAY WHEN YOU HOWLED FOR IT TO LEAVE ! THANK YOU ! BE SAFE ! HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT REST OF THE YEAR ! HAVE FUN ! GOD BE WITH YOU ALWAYS ON YOUR JOURNEYS ! ENJOYED !
Thanks for the kind words and the great story. I personally can't complain about much these days. My family is doing well and I've had the opportunity to hike on nearly 20 overnight trips. Cheers. Marty
I don’t see how you can claim it is not free standing. It has poles for each corner! It’s like my old quarter dome! You need to pitch correctly in the wind. The modern ‘freestanding’ with three poles to the ground Are NOT free standing, can’t wait to try this tent!
Thank you great on detail just what I was looking for I'm looking for a light weight tent the tungsten is one I'm looking at then the tarp tent . stratospire 1p or 2p
Hey, thanks for the review. I purchased this tent a few years ago and have found it fantastic. I have been very lucky in that it I never experienced rain on my hikes. It snowed once but I was able to brush off. I’m wondering if prior to this season of hiking if I should spray water repellent onto it? Do you use spray on your gear and if so was it successful? Maybe a video on gear maintenance is an idea? Thanks for sharing your vast experience and knowledge!
This tent is 3 years old and as solid as the day I bought it. I just dry it properly after every trip and folded it loosely for storage. I haven't sprayed it. It doesn't need it.
That does look like prime bear country... I'm trying to figure out extra components of my 1P: 4 inch-long plastic things with 3 holes in them, and a 6-inch tube of metal. Any insights?
The plastic things, if there are 4 of them, are guy line tensioners. They're garbage. Get better ones. The tube is for field repairs if a pole breaks, Super handy.
I don’t think I could ever go out into bear country alone. Especially with the grizzly population in the AB rockies. And most of AB mountains are in national parks so you can’t carry a firearm 😬
This encounter was the only close call with bears this summer. I've slept under the stars 38 times since January, and never had a real issue with bears. Being worried is understandable. Just go with friends, and stay on popular trails. Cheers.
Love my Marmot Tungsten 2 man. What’s your experience with rodents getting at your pack/shoes in the vestibule. I went with the 2 man for 2 reasons: I like the extra room to bring my pack/boots inside, and I need the extra room when taking the pooch. I wouldn’t mind shedding the couple extra pounds though. Nice review!
Bear Spray is probably a lot more effective deterrent. Every case on video the bear changes course nearly instantaneously. I know my previous 10MM could not do that. Neither can .357mag or even .44 mag. Minimum .308 or 30-06. ...Best you can do is 2% Capsaicin.
I bought the two-person version of this tent at the beginning of the summer, and I'm very pleased with it so far. It's seen me through the wind, the rain, and seven nights on the North Boundary without anything going wrong. Literally my only complaint is that the zippers have a tendency to get stuck. That bear encounter also looked wild! I'm lucky to have never encountered a bear in the wild, but it seems like lately I see them from the car nearly every time I'm heading to or going home from a trip. I guess that's better than seeing them on the trail or at camp. Cheers from Calgary.
Zippers are the bain of much gear. I have a nice sleeping bag with a louzy zipper. Someone needs to invent a better zipper (which I believe is a Canadian invention). Cheers.
Is the two person actually used for two or ? Thanks
This was the funniest video I’ve seen in awhile.. I was root in’ for the bear 😂🤣👍🤦♂️
I use 2p tents because I feel comfy. Finally a 1p tent I would by. It is wider than most and I love Marmot.
Thank you Marty for your update on Marmot tent . a lot of reviews on gear don't back them up with real world usage. I found this site as I wanted to purchase the 1p and did a search for reviews . It will be great for my solo trips to B.W.C.A.W. Mn canoe area . I have done meany trips there (15 - 20 ) and need to lighten the load out when i solo . As what i see of the bear , I believe you were in his path of travel as they have to respect other animals territory , or maybe it just wanted to say hi. Roy Boy. Happy Trails
Hi Roy. It's a great tent. I even use it in deep winter. I slept in in 3 nights a few weeks ago. For some summer trips where weight is absolutely at a premium, I purchased a TeePee from OneTigris that barely weighs 1 lb (if I leave the centre pole at home). It means sleeping directly on the ground, but it's very spacious. Cheers.
I have the 3P version of this tent, and after two seasons with it, I'm quite happy with it. It's hard to get the fly to have a nice taut pitch, but otherwise, it's a solid tent. It weathered a bad rainstorm last summer where others in camp ended up very wet. The bathtub floor can let a little splash-back in, but the upside is the large amount of mesh allows a lot of airflow and keeps weight down. I also like the "old fashioned" polyester fly that doesn't sag when wet like Silnylon. I use Easton pegs and added more guys and some hang-tabs in the interior. At 2kg spot on for a 3P tent, the weight is very acceptable. I used to be an MSR tent lover, but they've had some issues in the last few years.
Thanks for the extra feedback. So far everyone seems to be on the same page. This is a great tent, and a good price point. Cheers.
Hey Marty! Another great video! I used the BRS stove you reviewed on my trip to Glacier last week and it worked perfectly. I had a big grizzly sow (300kg +) and her 2 cubs walk into my campsite the second night as I brushed my teeth before bed. She was 9 meters from me (I later measured it). She made a right turn when she saw me but stayed in the area for over an hour after dark. We had 9 people assembled in the common cooking area where we waited it out. Would be scary to be alone! I didn't sleep too well that night, but it all came out OK. Thanks again for the great videos!
Wow, Glacier Park or Glacier Lake (Banff)? I recommended Glacier Lake as a perfect place for a first-time soloist a few weeks ago. She'd be upset with me if she ran into a grizzly. Cheers.
@@Martyupnorth I was in Glacier National Park at Ellen Wilson Lake back country campground. I wanted to see bears on this trip- and I did! I got a grainy pic when they were in the field about 25 meters away, but you can only see eyes. It was very dark and smoky from the fires in the western states.
Thx for the review bud, so many considerations to make for a comfortable nights rest. Wow to close to call with that bear, after watching this I will make blind spots 1st for safety and sun rises to help drying process begin. Take care Bud..
You forgot to mention dead standing trees when picking a tent spot; I once camped in a birch forest which served as a bird sanctuary. It was littered with fallen branches, one big one came down in the middle of the night, hit the ground with a nice muffled thud. They just break off with no sound, no warning.
The bird sanctuary was super noisy throughout the night - I like birds but maybe not 2000 of them all at once :)
Thanks for the Marmot review. I'm looking into these "American" style tents where you pitch the inner tent first and then put the fly on. I've been using the Hilleberg Akto for 10 years now and it's time to update. The tent is more orange than red now, still waterproof tho.
It would be nice to get a similar tent at around 2 pounds with a nice vestibule.
A bear in your camp is sure to wake you up. In Norway we got the brown bear which runs away at first sight, same with the wolves.
Stay safe!
Good point. I haven't had a tree fall on me, but I've had snow fall from branches. A big clump of snow can easily damage a tent. Cheers.
Great video. Wow. That bear. If brown -seemingly much trickier to spot
Thanks. If that bear had been black or brown, it probably would have walked right up to me before I noticed it. The whiteness of his coat certainly made him more visible. Here's a video with the full encounter (ruclips.net/video/xRXAcsCLWeM/видео.html). Cheers
I have a Marmot Limestone 4 witch I have left standing in the woods for weeks at a time while archery hunting. I got 4 hard years out of it before a windstorm ripped the fly, it has been fantastic. Marty, Another advantage of poly is it resists UV better than nylon.
I didn't know that about poly, Thanks.
Good video update... I upgraded from the original Tungsten 1p to the UL 1p and love it. For the price, weight, and it being a freestanding tent makes it a great choice for any back country adventure. When using just the 6 stakes, I replaced with MSR Groundhog stakes, it’s a solid structure. Only when I set up in an exposed area where winds could be problematic will I use the guy lines and then I only use 2. I’ve never had a problem even during gale force winds. Curious why you gave up using a footprint? I love the one that you can purchase for this tent. Gives extra protection to the bottom of the tent while adding little weight (4.9oz) at a small extra expense. Also usually just the bottom of the footprint gets wet. I can use a small micro fiber towel to wipe down the footprint and then the sun/wind dries it out quickly. When I do laundry while camping I place my wet shirts, socks, underwear directly on the mesh on top of the tent and below the fly. Always dry by morning. Another key advantage you mention is the size of the tent footprint. It can fit into a tiny flat area compared to other non freestanding 1p tents that require multiple guy out points (think Z Pak). Like some of your viewers I thought a 1 person tent would be cramped and claustrophobic. To the contrary, with the large vestibule and the wider, tapered design, I find it quite cozy and comfortable. If you are a thru hiker where weight is your primary issue then this may not be your tent. For hundreds of dollars more you can shave about 1 lb of weight. Not worth it to me. Love this tent!
Great feedback. I just found that a ground sheet was extra weight for nothing. The extra protection was marginal. On the other hand, a ground sheet often trapped water between it and the tent floor, causing some to soak through. Cheers.
Martyupnorth its interesting, I see many comments questioning why the groundsheet that comes with a tent is smaller than the footprint of the tent. To your point, so that water doesn’t collect on the sheet and travel under your tent making your floor wet. I see many backpackers using Tyvek sheets that extend beyond the fly line; increasing the possibility of wetness in the tent floor. Good stuff Marty!
I always love watching your videos. I'm surprised you don't use a ground cloth. I use a piece of tubes (sp). Its light and very durable. I use to fold my tents very miraculously, but I was told over time it will create seams and over time the seams will fail. It is so much easier now to stuff it. Keep up the videos.
That was tyvec not tube
Awesome video
Thanks, that was very informative.
Certainly a tent I would consider.
Glad it was helpful!
I have this as well but in orange. It's funny how much of the same gear we have. I usually tarp but I really like this tent when I do use it. I also like it much better in green but it only came in orange when I bought it. Have you ever used polycryo (that stuff you blow-dry over window in the winter) as a tent footprint?
Holy crap I watched the rest and wasn't expecting the bear encounter! That was crazy I was starting to worry it was a predatory situation.Have you ever read "Bear Attacks: Their Causes and Avoidance' by Stephen Herrero? I highly recommend it if you haven't. He was a U of C biologist.
I stopped using a ground sheet for my tents a long time ago. I have a teepee with no floor, and I though of using a piece of Tyvek for it. The polycryo seems a little too flimsy to use for a ground cover.
@@Martyupnorth It only seems that way :P That's what I thought as well because it's so thin and cheap but since trying it I've never gone back. The only bad part is that it makes that crinkling sound.
@@BrodyYYC Great read, Herrero
I ended up getting the 2 man of this tent shortly after returning home after last years trip. It wouldn't sleep 2 people my size very well, but it works for Jake and I. It's a great tent though! And what a price too. Funny, I put a small hole in the screen as well.
At 6'4" you must have a hard time finding any tent that really fits you well. That's one of the advantages of being a little guy like me. Winter season is already upon us. This time last year we were getting out first snow. Let's hope for a shorter winter this year. Cheers.
@@Martyupnorth haha...to true!
Fingers crossed you'll get the short winter. Take care!
HI MARTY !
GLAD TO SEE YOU'RE OUT & ABOUT ! HOPE FAMILY & FRIENDS ARE OK WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON ! YES THAT WAS A LITTLE UNNERVING! A COUPLE YEARS BACK WHILE I WAS GETTING BREAKFAST READY & WAITING TO WAKE UP MY NEPHEW & WHILE MY BEST FRIEND CALLED ME TO LET ME KNOW HE MADE IT SAFELY HOME FROM HIS TRIP . MY NEPHEW WAS WITH ME NEAR THE CAMPFIRE. HEARD A BIG CRASH THOUGHT IT WAS A TREE FALLING . BUT SHORTLY AFTER WE'RE VISITED BY A BIG MOMMA BEAR , ONE HALF HER SIZE & TWO TWINS THE SIZE OF FULL GROWN ROTTWEILERS DODS . THEY STOPPED I GUESS THEY SMELT THE CAMPFIRE , LOOKED OUR WAY THEN JUST KEPT GOING DOWN IN THE VALLEY & UP OVER & DOWN INTO THE NEXT ONE . WE JUST STOOD THERE & WATCHED , A LOT DIFFERENT THAN BEING AT A ZOO / ETC NO WALLS / BARS TO PROTECT YOU ! WE ENDED STAYING AN EXTRA NIGHT 🌙
I'M GLAD EVERYTHING TURNED OUT GOOD ON YOUR TRIP , A LITTLE SCARY SINCE HE / SHE DIDN'T RUN AWAY WHEN YOU HOWLED FOR IT TO LEAVE !
THANK YOU ! BE SAFE ! HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT REST OF THE YEAR ! HAVE FUN ! GOD BE WITH YOU ALWAYS ON YOUR JOURNEYS ! ENJOYED !
Thanks for the kind words and the great story. I personally can't complain about much these days. My family is doing well and I've had the opportunity to hike on nearly 20 overnight trips. Cheers. Marty
I don’t see how you can claim it is not free standing. It has poles for each corner! It’s like my old quarter dome! You need to pitch correctly in the wind. The modern ‘freestanding’ with three poles to the ground Are NOT free standing, can’t wait to try this tent!
Very useful video thanks so much !!
Nice and spooky, that was.
Thank you great on detail just what I was looking for I'm looking for a light weight tent the tungsten is one I'm looking at then the tarp tent . stratospire 1p or 2p
Love your review. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Hey, thanks for the review. I purchased this tent a few years ago and have found it fantastic. I have been very lucky in that it I never experienced rain on my hikes. It snowed once but I was able to brush off.
I’m wondering if prior to this season of hiking if I should spray water repellent onto it? Do you use spray on your gear and if so was it successful? Maybe a video on gear maintenance is an idea? Thanks for sharing your vast experience and knowledge!
This tent is 3 years old and as solid as the day I bought it. I just dry it properly after every trip and folded it loosely for storage. I haven't sprayed it. It doesn't need it.
I have this tent and it works well, even in heavy rainstorms.
That does look like prime bear country...
I'm trying to figure out extra components of my 1P: 4 inch-long plastic things with 3 holes in them, and a 6-inch tube of metal. Any insights?
The plastic things, if there are 4 of them, are guy line tensioners. They're garbage. Get better ones. The tube is for field repairs if a pole breaks, Super handy.
I don’t think I could ever go out into bear country alone. Especially with the grizzly population in the AB rockies. And most of AB mountains are in national parks so you can’t carry a firearm 😬
This encounter was the only close call with bears this summer. I've slept under the stars 38 times since January, and never had a real issue with bears. Being worried is understandable. Just go with friends, and stay on popular trails. Cheers.
Love my Marmot Tungsten 2 man. What’s your experience with rodents getting at your pack/shoes in the vestibule. I went with the 2 man for 2 reasons: I like the extra room to bring my pack/boots inside, and I need the extra room when taking the pooch. I wouldn’t mind shedding the couple extra pounds though. Nice review!
So far everyone who owns a MArmot seems to agree that it's a great tent. On next year's hike we can all bring our pooches. Cheers.
Where did you see it for 200? I lowest I've ever seen it for was 260 on sale
End of season sale two years ago. Before COVID and more Carbon Tax. Everything is much more expensive these days.
* don't fold your tent, you'll get creases, always stuff
189 CAD??? This tent costs 512 CAD at the moment here in the Nordics.
i was scared for you
damn bro you are in grizzly country and are not strapped?? lol. whenever I and backpacking in grizzly country I have a Glock 10 mm on my hip.
Canada lol
Bear Spray is probably a lot more effective deterrent. Every case on video the bear changes course nearly instantaneously. I know my previous 10MM could not do that. Neither can .357mag or even .44 mag. Minimum .308 or 30-06. ...Best you can do is 2% Capsaicin.
HEY Boo Boo
I was sold until I saw it's $400 usd now.
That's nuts. I paid under $200 Canadian a few years ago.
Just bought one for $220 at REI
Didn't see anything, the camera was shaking so much.
Haters got to hate.