There's always going to be some latency when running plug ins. In this example the reverb doesn't add any additional latency. But I'll totally make a video about what plug ins I use.
How's your experience with using the USB Output of an M32 into your computer directly? Would you unsend the original channels to main and reroute the processed signals to new channels to main in order to avoid phase issues?
Not sure if you'll see this but can you cover a way to route your mixer should your plugin host fail? Say I have a dedicated waves grid or live professor rig set up and the show is going on but all of a sudden there is a hang-up or a system crash. How would I go about making sure that the show doesn't suddenly go silent? I'm not entirely new to live sound but anything bigger than an event with more than 200 people is something I'm not experienced in at all and I would love to up my skills for any opportunity that would come my way. There may be a video on this already but I haven't found it yet 😅
This is also my biggest fear with software processing and trusting a PC not to crash. I have an Apple M1 now which has proven to be very reliable in the studio, so am considering giving this a go for 1 or 2 vocalists to start with. My thoughts for a Failover would be to route the dry input on my Vox Channel to a Sub Mix or sacrifice a 2nd Channel to Receive a Pre-fader Send. Depending on the Desk you can have the 2nd Channel turned Off or the Fader down until needed. This is obviously not automatic failover bur recovery is only one move for one Vox input. The Sub Mix would work for multiple inputs.
If you are only using buss effects (reverbs, delays, etc), then no huge deal if the computer hangs - you just lose the effect return and will have to fall back to using the console's built in effects. If you are using this for channel inserts, then best practice is to bring the return back on a different channel. This way if the computer fails you can switch back to the source channel. Again, you lose the outboard processing, but you still have audio and all the built in capacity of the mixer.
I discovered your videos yesterday. I have been a Behringer X32/M32 user since they came on the market. I am a professional technician and I record each show in multitrack via USB on Reaper in Flac format. Why? so that I am not blamed for the musicians' mistakes and to better perfect the mixes. I ask myself the following question; Since it is possible to record the band live and simultaneously, would it be possible to process the information recorded in the software and return it simultaneously to the console like an InLine console? Jean-Francois from Montreal
That is why there is a function where all channels are aligned to the channel with the highest latency, so that they all arrive at the same time without any phase delay problem.
I've seen people do it in Ableton but generally speaking dedicated software is more stable with lower latency. I can't say I've tested the latency etc. But if I'm running an insert on my main vocal I'd rather minimise the risk of it crashing and taking out the vocal
You're very welcome. I've never really used an si expression I'm afraid. The work flow would be similar either way. Send to a bus, route bus to an out, connect out to the card, connect out of the card to an input. If I come across an si expressioin I'll make a video.
Thanks haha. Depending on what mixer you're using you can use a usb card or a dante card mounted in the mixer, then connect it straight to your laptop. dante is great for this kinda stuff.
Next time I'm around a qu mixer I'll make a video. But The work flow would be similar either way. Send to a bus, route bus to an out, connect out to the card, connect out of the card to an input.
can you do this set up with QU16?
Can i instead use a daw?
Would you be nice to have a video on plugins that are latency free ;) maybe would be nice if you made a video on plugins you use in a live scenario :)
There's always going to be some latency when running plug ins. In this example the reverb doesn't add any additional latency. But I'll totally make a video about what plug ins I use.
@@OffshoreAudiohave you made this video? I’m looking for a good multi band dynamics plugin that’s low latency for live use with live professor
How's your experience with using the USB Output of an M32 into your computer directly? Would you unsend the original channels to main and reroute the processed signals to new channels to main in order to avoid phase issues?
Could you please demonstrate the process on a Presonus Studiolive lll 32SX? Thank you.
Can you not use a mixer if its only 1 mic straight to the focusrite and the out of the computer to the powered speaker?
Not sure if you'll see this but can you cover a way to route your mixer should your plugin host fail? Say I have a dedicated waves grid or live professor rig set up and the show is going on but all of a sudden there is a hang-up or a system crash. How would I go about making sure that the show doesn't suddenly go silent? I'm not entirely new to live sound but anything bigger than an event with more than 200 people is something I'm not experienced in at all and I would love to up my skills for any opportunity that would come my way. There may be a video on this already but I haven't found it yet 😅
This is also my biggest fear with software processing and trusting a PC not to crash. I have an Apple M1 now which has proven to be very reliable in the studio, so am considering giving this a go for 1 or 2 vocalists to start with. My thoughts for a Failover would be to route the dry input on my Vox Channel to a Sub Mix or sacrifice a 2nd Channel to Receive a Pre-fader Send. Depending on the Desk you can have the 2nd Channel turned Off or the Fader down until needed. This is obviously not automatic failover bur recovery is only one move for one Vox input. The Sub Mix would work for multiple inputs.
If you are only using buss effects (reverbs, delays, etc), then no huge deal if the computer hangs - you just lose the effect return and will have to fall back to using the console's built in effects. If you are using this for channel inserts, then best practice is to bring the return back on a different channel. This way if the computer fails you can switch back to the source channel. Again, you lose the outboard processing, but you still have audio and all the built in capacity of the mixer.
Thanks for this video,would love to see this setup done in a Yamaha TF series Digital Mixer
Agreed!!
Thank you for posting. Can I use Reaper or Pro Tools as my PlugIn host of choice?
Yes!
I discovered your videos yesterday.
I have been a Behringer X32/M32 user since they came on the market.
I am a professional technician and I record each show in multitrack via USB on Reaper in Flac format.
Why? so that I am not blamed for the musicians' mistakes and to better perfect the mixes.
I ask myself the following question;
Since it is possible to record the band live and simultaneously,
would it be possible to process the information recorded in the software and return it simultaneously to the console like an InLine console?
Jean-Francois from Montreal
I think it’s important to mention that there will be inherent latency when using plugins in this manner. Signal is not going to be phase coherent.
That is why there is a function where all channels are aligned to the channel with the highest latency, so that they all arrive at the same time without any phase delay problem.
Thank you!
Thank you for this brother. would be perfect to make same video with a SQ6.
Please make the same video on Yamaha dm3
great video thanks
Are standard DAWs not optimized to do this sort of thing? I have FL Studio... Do you need a software like LiveProfessor for this to work well?
I've seen people do it in Ableton but generally speaking dedicated software is more stable with lower latency. I can't say I've tested the latency etc. But if I'm running an insert on my main vocal I'd rather minimise the risk of it crashing and taking out the vocal
Brilliant! Thanks
Glad you liked it!
thank you so much can you do soundcraft si expression mixer pls
You're very welcome. I've never really used an si expression I'm afraid. The work flow would be similar either way. Send to a bus, route bus to an out, connect out to the card, connect out of the card to an input. If I come across an si expressioin I'll make a video.
Great video
PERFECT ! And now it looks like I have to spend more $ LOL. How or what if you want to use many in's/out's for many channels ?
Thanks haha. Depending on what mixer you're using you can use a usb card or a dante card mounted in the mixer, then connect it straight to your laptop. dante is great for this kinda stuff.
@@OffshoreAudio I have M32 and M32C
Hello Can you do it in the allen & Heath qu 24? It would be so nice
Next time I'm around a qu mixer I'll make a video. But The work flow would be similar either way. Send to a bus, route bus to an out, connect out to the card, connect out of the card to an input.
greate man
InpÜt
a lil fast but awesome job
Thanks! what part would you like more detail on/ where should I slow down?