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Wingman should definitely be A tier, people underestimate ammo usage, you can do so much more with 120 wingman shots than 120 light rounds for an r301; allows you to carry more nades as well
Will it’s like what they said if you’re hitting your shots consistently then yeah it can be an s tier too but during close quarters you will probably get flamed by a car or volt or any AR honestly while doing 90 to them
Yeah it's super good on ammo. You only need two stacks and I've seen people function well with one stack and aggressive play Pk/wingman only takes up two/three backpack slots in ammo
As much as i love halo, always been a halo guy whos watched mlg in the past… the current state of the game makes me question if it was worth it for snipe to leave :/ i do miss seeing these guys play together. Maybe one day he’ll come back
@@TheLEGITstuff i think he just got abit tired, and apex comp is just so tiring...snipe does have a step up adault life compared to hal and reps...no disrespect inteended.
The way hal raises his eyebrows at reps over saying flatline nerf hahahaha cuz he knows how much influence what they say has over the game 🤣 the fear in hals eyes
Toosh needs to be the leader in all these content videos. TSM really dropping the ball. His hosting abilities have been discussed and need to be used properly
Idk how the Wingman isn’t A tier, it’s consistently a primary weapon used at a competitive level that 9/10 pros worship. This must have been recorded before TSM won split 1 playoffs with Hal on the wingman.
Well, Hal and Reps did want it to be in A tier but Verhulst wants it C-tier because he's personally bad with it. Personally, I think Wingman is S-tier if it's practiced enough
@@TJzWayyy how’s it inconsistent💀no matter where you hit the enemy it’s the same Amount of damage, it’s not like it hits 9s or 12s, the only possible thing that could be inconsistent is the player
Yeah you are absolutely correct. Would be perfect gun for the care package and would free Volt or some other gun back to the pool. Fully kitted buffed Bow, why not.
Why do they put our favourite guns in care package I don't understand, also I agree but I think the question is how much ammo are we gonna get if that happens
This is a great idea for game balance but I could see why the devs would be adverse to it due to how much time and effort they spent on the arrow collecting mechanic. If they left it in then it would be the only care package weapon ever to have the ability to restock your ammo. Might be kind of interesting though tbh.
I mean he is an asshole but no team has done or even come close to what hes done so yeah he can brag it's just that every other team sucks and every team Hal is they just win, so yeah he kind of is
Nah, it’s just not accurate, and it’s not ‘a little less damage’ it’s 198 vs 159 dps, literally the lowest comparing to all smg, and only beating rampage in all full auto weapon
The peater going in D is a TRAVESTY. Most underrated gun in the game by a mile. It's a wingman that you can throw a 2x4 on?? Shatter caps on that baby and you have a gun for every situation. Throw it with any spray gun in the game and you have a complete loadout. Damage is crazy, good rate of fire. Smh.
The only bad thing about it (compared to wingman) is that is has a horrendous ADS speed (faster than sniper, but still feels terrible) but other than that it's majorly underrated.
The problem with 30/30 is it's hard to master in midrange the bullet drop is a bit confusing sometimes. I would rather take the Triple Take. I like the 30/30 with a Shatter caps tho
It can still slap with a bolt. I’d take it over mozam all day. They put r99 in C tier too even tho it’s still the go to smg. My main loadout is r99/pk/mastiff and I got a 4K almost daily
Volt was and still is the best smg or rifle in both categories. It’s got range and dmg with fast fire rate and the fastest ttk. CAR is also a better r99. The fact you can use heavy or light and extra mag interchangeable is just a chefs kiss and gives a lot of use. Wingman is also a tier if headshot attachment comes again it’ll be s tier. But otherwise I agree with all of the rest.
I actually think the 30-30 is a little low. The midrange damage is pretty great but it definitely has a lot of limitations. Low C, personally, but if it's gotta be D, it would be high D. Scatter rounds can save you in short range.
Bro i want to see you winning one gunfight against someone using 30-30 only with scatter caps do you even feel ok to play that but you’re better off having any other gun. 30-30 sucks ass so hard. I wish it was a bit faster which could probably make it a bit more c tier
Some of the best apex players in the world. Presentation is the equivalent of high school kids grouping up and them crumbling I'm front of class while presenting lol
When Volt and C.A.R, even in ground loot versions do not make S/S+, idk what they are smoking, cause those are only guns to outshine/match flat and R301, along with Scout
Tbh every gun is decent in its on regards. The only stuff that needs to be balanced is definitely a buff on the long bow, and every lmg should be removed from the game until it’s its turn to become a care package weapon.
I like to use R301 because even without optics you can easily follow the enemy, and while with a flatline you can't see the enemy without optics because of that bump that is on top
@@michaeljhale23 You are so wrong, my good man! It's flatline if you have good skin. He is a strong weapon with nothing, and only the optician teases him. Volt is a fantastic weapon. I love the r301 because of the look. It would take a lot more weapons to put into the game
@@CharizardLv95 i don’t use controller must be why I’m cheeks(I’m joking don’t take this serious) I use MnK I barley hip fire since my load out is Wing man and Pk
As of march 2022 s12 S: Kraber, R301, Volt A: Rampage, Hemlock B: Alternator, R99, CAR, Flatline, Mastiff, Charge Rifle, RE-45, Bocek, G7 Scout, Triple Take, Wingman, 30-30 Repeater C: Sentinel, Longbow, Havoc, Devotion, Peacekeeper, Eva-8 D: Mozambique, P2020 I am a Master’s Controller player btw Shotguns are not meta and snipers are underpowered. Hal had to be trippin or something
Havoc does not need a turbo just need image prefiring and then peak you'll have the weapon ready to fire by the time you peak. If you can do that a unturbo havoc can out perform flatlines. Once you get a turbo it's straight up better than the flatline
The bow is like the wingman bro, my mate and I have put time and effort into the bow, and we absolutely slap people up with it on the daily, short-medium-long range, you name it.
Ammo never an issue too because 96 is more than enough and only 3 slots, can craft ammo too and never have a problem with it. We hit most of our shots so we can also collect them from victim box
@@caidenf.3229 Mid range for sure! Those charged headshots alone is enough to let your team push. I just always seems to do pretty good with it and not having to toggle the shatter caps and hip-firing it isn't bad either.
30 30 is trash tier its damage, reload, hipfire accuracy... feels like a fetus of the combination of g7 and longbow. Id rather use a havoc with that horrendous 1 second shoot delay BY FAR.
Wingman should Atleast be A tier, you only need one stack of heavy minimum to last you practically the whole game, and it’s solid in close/mid range, if you hit your shots wingman always wins
Wing man is A -Tier. A wing man with 8 in and 20 rounds reserved is far more dangerous than a machine gun with one clip. Car - A tier. The fact you can find 2 different ammos and clips makes it really good. Volt is A. No question. R99 - B-Tier. C.A.R. Took its spot Havoc without turbo - B. Hipfire engagements this season been in my favor especially versus Gibby’s and Caustic because of the dps. Turbo charge shooting it to S. Anyway… different strokes for different folks. Dudes using Aimbot mods don’t have the same problems.
TSM FTX FAM POLL: What do you want to see the apex boys do next?👀
A) No shields challenge
B) Random loadout challenge
C) Blindfold challenge
D) Something else...
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i absolutely love this IRL content. The editor is so good too lol
He's so fkn good LMAO
“and we got verhulst here too”
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I was going to like this comment but it's at 69 likes and I'm a child so...
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That got me deadasf mofo on a tablet 😂
Reps: "Nobody will run a bow"
Mande: "Am I a joke to you?"
and the ammo is never a problem because he just crafts 200
The Bow God himself
@@zabafa9052 true but late game he still shoots all of it and takes an r301 from a death box
That implies you have to kill him and loot his box. which aint happening lmao
9:27
bro that caught me off guard - especially the pic lmao
its like the clutch for the tier list
Wingman should definitely be A tier, people underestimate ammo usage, you can do so much more with 120 wingman shots than 120 light rounds for an r301; allows you to carry more nades as well
While i agree with this, this gun needs time to master
Will it’s like what they said if you’re hitting your shots consistently then yeah it can be an s tier too but during close quarters you will probably get flamed by a car or volt or any AR honestly while doing 90 to them
Yeah it's super good on ammo. You only need two stacks and I've seen people function well with one stack and aggressive play
Pk/wingman only takes up two/three backpack slots in ammo
It's like the g7
Wingman is garbage
I love how reps still tries to include snipedown even though he is gone, you can tell he really misses him
As much as i love halo, always been a halo guy whos watched mlg in the past… the current state of the game makes me question if it was worth it for snipe to leave :/ i do miss seeing these guys play together. Maybe one day he’ll come back
@@TheLEGITstuff faze money bro
@@dumblablabla in halo???? LOL
@@TheLEGITstuff thing is he's on FaZe Apex and Halo... So he technically didn't leave Apex. He just left TSM
@@TheLEGITstuff i think he just got abit tired, and apex comp is just so tiring...snipe does have a step up adault life compared to hal and reps...no disrespect inteended.
The way hal raises his eyebrows at reps over saying flatline nerf hahahaha cuz he knows how much influence what they say has over the game 🤣 the fear in hals eyes
100% hal was thinking abt that thru the entire list lol
I’m sure they had a lengthy conversation after it did get nerfed 😅😂
The editor deserves a raise... Like if u agree
editor goes to s tier no cap
I just want to say that I'm really loving the amount of content you've been putting out, and I can't wait for each new video. keep it up (:
30-30 repeater
Hal: "Put that gun in the trash"
zero hesitation LOL
Well it's the only tier acceptable for the peater
@@damicapra94 Agreed
Still have people in diamond lobbies asking for this shitty gun
@@matthewmorrison3745 whats wrong with it????
@@CB-em3gp It's a worse wingman
日本語字幕あって助かる〜！
３人の掛け合い面白くてほんとに好き
Exactly!!
the way reps was holding verhulst like a baby i laughed so hard
Bro the intro with Verhulst here too took me out LOL
Bro whoever edits these vidoes does an amazing job
This editor literally makes these videos so much better please keep them around
Toosh needs to be the leader in all these content videos. TSM really dropping the ball. His hosting abilities have been discussed and need to be used properly
I mean this was still a great video, but Toosh is easily the King of hosting events for Apex to be sure
Love seeing tsm content. Cant wait for verhulst to move in
He just moved in, Hal was on his stream for a bit yesterday
Isn't he in college?
@@deki5616 he quit college to pursue his gaming career.
@@caz5021 say you’re lying
@@mercedeztaylor3055 I’m not. Hal said that on stream a few days ago.
初めて海外チームの動画見たけど編集の仕方とジョークがいい具合に噛み合ってたから見てて面白かったわ。
最後のハルのくだりクソ笑ったw😂
I love how they are discussing snipe in vid even tho he left.😭😭
Left tsm??
@@Ser0zine yea he's apart of FaZe now
@@Ser0zine Yeah he switched to halo
Reps: mentions Snipe
Hal: 😃
Reps: mentions Snipe
Hal: 😥
Idk how the Wingman isn’t A tier, it’s consistently a primary weapon used at a competitive level that 9/10 pros worship. This must have been recorded before TSM won split 1 playoffs with Hal on the wingman.
Well, Hal and Reps did want it to be in A tier but Verhulst wants it C-tier because he's personally bad with it. Personally, I think Wingman is S-tier if it's practiced enough
Didn’t want it to be nerfed
It’s inconsistent
@@TJzWayyy how’s it inconsistent💀no matter where you hit the enemy it’s the same Amount of damage, it’s not like it hits 9s or 12s, the only possible thing that could be inconsistent is the player
@@bmm5006 it’s inconsistent because it’s an all or nothing single fire gun, It’s either you deal 45 damage or 0.
1:13 part killed me, A tier editor.
Hal IGLing hard even in a tierlist 😂
Put the bow on care package, just make that arrows do same dmg as when it first came out and leave everything else they have changed
Yeah you are absolutely correct. Would be perfect gun for the care package and would free Volt or some other gun back to the pool. Fully kitted buffed Bow, why not.
Couldnt agree more. I miss the g7 in the ground so much
Why do they put our favourite guns in care package I don't understand, also I agree but I think the question is how much ammo are we gonna get if that happens
Broo that's a rlly good idea
This is a great idea for game balance but I could see why the devs would be adverse to it due to how much time and effort they spent on the arrow collecting mechanic. If they left it in then it would be the only care package weapon ever to have the ability to restock your ammo. Might be kind of interesting though tbh.
If Snipe was here he would be throwing this thing on the S tier
Literally so true 😂😂
やっぱりスナイプは愛されてたんだなって感じる動画です。
Love how Hal called himself the CEO in the end. It’s getting to his head
Considering what he’s accomplished I don’t blame him
I mean he is an asshole but no team has done or even come close to what hes done so yeah he can brag it's just that every other team sucks and every team Hal is they just win, so yeah he kind of is
Personally I think the RE is the perfect place holder for my R99, IMO it is the same gun with less re coil and a little less damage
Nah, it’s just not accurate, and it’s not ‘a little less damage’ it’s 198 vs 159 dps, literally the lowest comparing to all smg, and only beating rampage in all full auto weapon
@@yuxia5989 its have less recoil and more accuracy, but less damage. That what he already said
@@projekteratai no, I'm saying re45 is NOT as accurate as r99, and it's not 'a little'less damage, it's one of the highest to one of the lowerest
That flashback of evan and hal 1v1ing after talking about the PK is hilarious😂
字幕用意してくれてるのは本当に助かる
This is too funny, need more content like this!
HAL+JORDAN=THE BEST DUO OF ESPORT HISTORY
Bruh I’m dead. Verhulst just chillin on the screen
The peater going in D is a TRAVESTY. Most underrated gun in the game by a mile. It's a wingman that you can throw a 2x4 on?? Shatter caps on that baby and you have a gun for every situation. Throw it with any spray gun in the game and you have a complete loadout. Damage is crazy, good rate of fire. Smh.
The only bad thing about it (compared to wingman) is that is has a horrendous ADS speed (faster than sniper, but still feels terrible) but other than that it's majorly underrated.
THE PETER!!!
HEAVY underrated fr
yeah Sheldon and Leonard have come a long way..
Not Evan on the ipad!!! Im dying!!😂😂
This season, 30 30 is pretty good imo. And a fun alternative for wingman if you bored of picking wingy every match
The problem with 30/30 is it's hard to master in midrange the bullet drop is a bit confusing sometimes. I would rather take the Triple Take. I like the 30/30 with a Shatter caps tho
5:20 watching the Eva go down in tiers throughout the seasons hurts, because I used to love the gun. Now it's what I like to call a loot filler :(
It can still slap with a bolt. I’d take it over mozam all day. They put r99 in C tier too even tho it’s still the go to smg. My main loadout is r99/pk/mastiff and I got a 4K almost daily
@@Zack.G23 I prefer the car to the r9, but I wish the Eva got a buff. Even if it was small
Should have picked up Verhulst on the tablet and put him into a tier 😂
ImperialHal: The Volt? In S tier? Impossible. No way.
Also ImperialHal: Car is definitely S tier on controller.
Volt was and still is the best smg or rifle in both categories. It’s got range and dmg with fast fire rate and the fastest ttk. CAR is also a better r99. The fact you can use heavy or light and extra mag interchangeable is just a chefs kiss and gives a lot of use. Wingman is also a tier if headshot attachment comes again it’ll be s tier. But otherwise I agree with all of the rest.
I actually think the 30-30 is a little low. The midrange damage is pretty great but it definitely has a lot of limitations. Low C, personally, but if it's gotta be D, it would be high D. Scatter rounds can save you in short range.
no. 30-30 absolutely sucks. one of the worst guns in the game
Bro i want to see you winning one gunfight against someone using 30-30 only with scatter caps do you even feel ok to play that but you’re better off having any other gun. 30-30 sucks ass so hard. I wish it was a bit faster which could probably make it a bit more c tier
@@mikeoath9541 imo scattershot 30-30 is better than all the other auto shotguns
@@insertmoney2189 little bit of delusions you got there bud?
3030 has the same problem as the wingman. If you hit the shots then it's op.
Some of the best apex players in the world. Presentation is the equivalent of high school kids grouping up and them crumbling I'm front of class while presenting lol
Reps: "You'll never run into a bow on someone."
Mande: Hold my Bocek
When Volt and C.A.R, even in ground loot versions do not make S/S+, idk what they are smoking, cause those are only guns to outshine/match flat and R301, along with Scout
Scout isn’t even used the same as volt/car so I’m not sure how it would “outshine” it
Tbh every gun is decent in its on regards. The only stuff that needs to be balanced is definitely a buff on the long bow, and every lmg should be removed from the game until it’s its turn to become a care package weapon.
I like to use R301 because even without optics you can easily follow the enemy, and while with a flatline you can't see the enemy without optics because of that bump that is on top
Pay to win skin.
@@michaeljhale23 You are so wrong, my good man! It's flatline if you have good skin. He is a strong weapon with nothing, and only the optician teases him. Volt is a fantastic weapon. I love the r301 because of the look. It would take a lot more weapons to put into the game
2v2 blindfold challenge, one will instruct while one plays first to 3 wins
AA is gonna win 100%
Wingman = A. Arguably the most versatile weapon in the entire game. Punishing when you miss.
Totally agree. Performance wise it is one of the best
Its not hard to use tbh just spray and have consistently good strafes.
@@CharizardLv95 “not hard to use tbh” aight man this gun has the highest skill ceiling
@@Kishotto its not as hard as people make it out to be. You literally just spam it and on controller the hipfire is broken up close.
@@CharizardLv95 i don’t use controller must be why I’m cheeks(I’m joking don’t take this serious) I use MnK I barley hip fire since my load out is Wing man and Pk
The editing in this video lol😂 love it haha
"If Snip3 was here"
y'all gonna make us cry again over losing him.
Reps really misses snipe :(
He didn't lose anything he got away from the raging manbaby who blamed him for every bad play
@@suppmydiff3257 your mom
These guys look like McDonald’s workers😂.. I bet they wake up in the morning and say thank you respawn
日本語字幕は正直まじで助かる
As of march 2022 s12
S: Kraber, R301, Volt
A: Rampage, Hemlock
B: Alternator, R99, CAR, Flatline, Mastiff, Charge Rifle, RE-45, Bocek, G7 Scout, Triple Take, Wingman, 30-30 Repeater
C: Sentinel, Longbow, Havoc, Devotion, Peacekeeper, Eva-8
D: Mozambique, P2020
I am a Master’s Controller player btw
Shotguns are not meta and snipers are underpowered. Hal had to be trippin or something
Never in my life I would puck a rampage/hemlock over a wingman/peacekeepers.
This is wrong period
I’m shocked about the 3030 rating. Ever since they buffed it it’s been amazing. Seriously would put it A tier
I think they ghost buffed the bullet velocity to be closer to the longbow because it has been HITTING for me
0 move speed shit gun
Havoc does not need a turbo just need image prefiring and then peak you'll have the weapon ready to fire by the time you peak. If you can do that a unturbo havoc can out perform flatlines. Once you get a turbo it's straight up better than the flatline
thats what i mean, close range turbo charger or not your chances of winning the fight goes up by so much
the bow is defo a tier lol just look at mande destroying with that
The bow is like the wingman bro, my mate and I have put time and effort into the bow, and we absolutely slap people up with it on the daily, short-medium-long range, you name it.
Ammo never an issue too because 96 is more than enough and only 3 slots, can craft ammo too and never have a problem with it. We hit most of our shots so we can also collect them from victim box
Editor is top tier. Love this content !
That was fun 🤟
The Flatline nerf tho 🥲
yooo when reps pulled out hal's face tho lol
Its obvious the CAR needs to be A or even S tier... Also, move that 30-30 up to at least C tier! That's a sleeper gun :)
In what way do you like the 30 30 like mid range engagements or what cuz I can never find a good time or place to use it.
@@caidenf.3229 Mid range for sure! Those charged headshots alone is enough to let your team push. I just always seems to do pretty good with it and not having to toggle the shatter caps and hip-firing it isn't bad either.
30 30 is trash tier its damage, reload, hipfire accuracy... feels like a fetus of the combination of g7 and longbow. Id rather use a havoc with that horrendous 1 second shoot delay BY FAR.
@@RoBGiJon Fair enough. Opinions will be opinions :)
@@MaliwanCEO 30-30 can be nasty if you are good with it. Roberto is clearly trash with it lmao
Y’all should do it now
Wingman should Atleast be A tier, you only need one stack of heavy minimum to last you practically the whole game, and it’s solid in close/mid range, if you hit your shots wingman always wins
nothing wins if you get aped by 2 people :/
Thank you for this tier list
For real I love these videoes. The guess your rank one was 🔥fire too. Cool to see how you act in normal life.
TSM editor is goated.
off topic, but, it still shows snipedown as part of TSMs main roster for apex on TSMs website
i love how hal has the final judgment lmao
I think the sentinel and the bow are way to slept on
Verhulst chillin on the chair is hilarious
The Volt on MnK slaps
“You hear that Dezign” haha 😂
i truly love Reps being the voice of TSM's past (mac and snipe). lmfao made hal put a lil respect on the Peater for mac aha
“Where’s your mvp?” “Im a Gibraltar player”
*CEO dominance* bruh I’m dead 😂
Sentinel extremely underrated imo. But my pov is as a casual console player so..
PK “C/D” tier lol u are nutz my friend! Nutz!
Flatline is the #1 gun in apex purple stock purple heavy any scope even iron sights work
i love how they still mentioned snipe
Nice move when he take Hal’s pic.
3030, car, and mozam are all underrated in this video
最終的にハルの一存でき待ってる武器が多いのいつも通りですき
As much as I wanted 301 to be S tier, a tier isn’t the worst. this list is pretty 100% accurate, the only this I’d change is car moving to a or s tier
“And Verhulst is here too” *Jordan carrying him on an IPad like a toddler* 😂😂😂😂
The editing with the volt and verhult was really funny
Wing man is A -Tier.
A wing man with 8 in and 20 rounds reserved is far more dangerous than a machine gun with one clip.
Car - A tier. The fact you can find 2 different ammos and clips makes it really good.
Volt is A. No question.
R99 - B-Tier. C.A.R. Took its spot
Havoc without turbo - B. Hipfire engagements this season been in my favor especially versus Gibby’s and Caustic because of the dps. Turbo charge shooting it to S.
Anyway… different strokes for different folks. Dudes using Aimbot mods don’t have the same problems.
always the super old people saying "aimbot mods" "scripts" "softaim" holy fuck is your ego that fragile
Reps: Bro flatline is S for sure
Everybody and Hal:pssss bro chill no you want this weapon die?
1:57 N (OMEGALUL)
How is the Alternator S and R3 A.
Bro the way they keep reminiscing about snipe 😂
The end of the video is amazing 😂
Whoever in charge of editing this video, obviously needs a rise
Next video should be “TSM goes to the chiropractor” Hal needs it 😭
I am absolutely loving all this content tysm
The editor is really good on this video. Props. 😂
The sad music at 6:49 😭😭
Video idea, all the content creators load into solo que trios at the same time and do a kill race with that one match
Super awesome content! Great to see guys from a different angle. But TSM, PLZ get Verhulst a new mic, also of the tourney streams sake x )
The way hal react whenever snipe is mentioned 😂😂😂😂
Verhulst on the zoom call is hilarious