Accidently said best to worst in the intro instead of worst to best. multiple people proofread this video this video multiple times and we missed something in the first 5 seconds xDDDDDDD LMAO. this is our first shot at content like this so please do forgive
I just came back to the game after taking a break for over a year. This was exactly the kind of video I needed to quickly load up on all legend info again. Ty for the vid
LOVE the music choices for this video. Music was the perfect volume so you could hear it, but the talking was a lot more dominant. Great video as always ❤
As a devote Watty, nice to see a pro ranking Wattson so highly. Most Tier List vids rank her low. With a good team she can guarantee a win late game.... with a noob team her abilities are ignored.... cos the prevailing tactic of noobs is to run around like headless chickens chasing anything that moves. Then they spam revive button like your there to wet nurse them. Wattson is a team player. Alone she is a bit of a pudding.
Ngl that's something I noticed about all the top ranked characters - their team value. On their own their kids are alright, but when taking into account he team value it makes the character soooo much better.
i one trick ash and shes been played a lot more, I dont wanna share her and I have been outpicked a lot, so I hope maybe people will stop playing her again and continue to think shes a trash character lol
As a support main in every game I could never really find a character in apex that fit my play style until conduit came out ! Ever since I got the first chance to play as her I have loved it and she has been my main since
YOU ARE SO GOATED I LOVE YOUUUU!!! Best tier list o have ever watched! Super analytical of the legends and much more in depth than your average RUclipsrs power ranking. Thank you his Wattson you are the goat!❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🐐🐐🐐
Awesome video! As a Rampart main I will say she’s hard to learn but very underrated. Along with shooting evacs, Sheila is perfect for playing aggressive and melting people hiding behind doors too
The effort put into this video is nuts, so thorough and amazing editing showing off exact examples of scenarios to further show and insinuate the given reasons. FANTASTIC VIDEO 😀
One thing you forgot to mention about Crypto is his ability to retrieve banners and use respawn beacons to revive his teammates with the drone. During solo queue ranked environments, that passive ability is amazing when you have randoms that want to hot drop every match.
I knew about 80% of this, but still entertaining video. Watched it all. I don't have time to watch your streams, but RUclips videos are much more digestible and are entertaining.
Vantage really only needs a few tweaks to make her stronger, most notably with her ultimate. The laser being visible to enemies is one of the largest drawbacks to her kit, second only to her hitbox size for a non-fortified character. The scan the sniper applies to a hit enemy also does not go through walls, though it is visible if the target retreats into smoke. Take away the laser and let the scan go through cover, all the sudden her ultimate is in a really good place.
They'd also have to delete the red laser on Rampart's ult to be fair, but it's not like it would matter since her ult is insanely loud and recognizable.
@@SterlingArthur They should take away the lasers on all ults, it's just stupid. Remove 1 of the tactical upgrade passives, and add in a choice to make her passive mark last longer, and visible through solid objects. I'd also buff her tactical, to allow her to grab onto downed teammates, and use her tactical to get them out of danger. Essentially holding onto them, as she activates her tactical jump.
The laser is there to make sure that a legend who can start off the match with a stupid broken weapon has some notable counterplay. It'd be utterly miserable to play against a vantage who gets an ult accelerant off if she didn't tell you which direction she's coming from. What she needs is to get some sort of utility that scales over the course of the game so she's not useless at the endgame. Her tactical also needs to be reworked because it's literally just a delayed dash and the actual bird is pointless atm - that's probably a huge part of her popularity problem.
Bro that video was absolutely amazing, such a good detailed description of each legend and weighing their pros and cons. Very informative and blunt. I would recommend this to every new player.
I think your bias saying crypto is boring is what kinda of got me. He's the best he's ever been. With seeing squads on banners, his perks, and placing my drone to cover the whole teams back while we can focus one squad
I like playing with crypto, good positioning is guaranteed but how many times I solo jumped with somebody push for a hot jump, no strategy whatsoever. For these people that kind of character is very much annoying.
@AmiriHipHop but he's not bad, that's the problem at his worst he has always at least been close to the other actual scan legends but after the nerfs to the legends
this might be the best use of his drone i’ve never heard be pointed out until now , a sort of protection against a 3rd party coming from behind in a spot to emp them🤔
I really appreciate how unbiased your input is because the general public would think so many of these legends are better than they really are based on how often they are played by high level pro's and streamers. That said, also goes to show that outside of the 1%, you can really just play whoever and still have fun and perform well
Ash would be so much better if her abilities weren’t so inconsistent. Her ult never feels like it’s where you’re aiming it. & her snare has to be pretty much aimed at an enemies feet for it to work. It should work like Maggie’s drill but it’s not even close to that.
I am an ash main and I like this video. I won’t disagree that she is a low tier but when I play her I feel like I get to focus more on learning how to use weapons and my movements. Great video
Agreed, but keep in mind that his kit has a high skill floor. Due to his hitbox size you have to be very careful and deliberate with ability usage and positioning. But once you learn that, he's absolutely amazing.
@@iownstaticz8687 I disagree. Like HisWattson stated - we shouldn't measure them by how good they are while everything is going well, but by how good they are when everything is going to hell. Not by their best standards, but by their lowest.
@@Papa-Truck-Kunexactly. If you accidentally place Newcastle's ult near a door that ur teammates are trying to get out of, it can become game over if enemies are chasing (not like that's a common thing lol).
@@iownstaticz8687 Right and by this logic, Wattson would be far lower than the vast majority of this cast while Seer, Vantage, Cyrpto, Newcastle and Gibraltar would be higher as a result.
I appreciate the in-depth tier list and how well thought out and explained your thoughts were. I also felt your placements made more sense than many other tier lists I’ve seen.
i played on realease till season 9. Just installed the game yesterday and this video was perfect. not only a good list about the Legends, even with very helpful tips. beautiful.
Such a good video! Watched this during my driving shift, I’d love to see more of these. Watched from start to finish. I bet everyone loves your insights just as much as me
"Gibby has the best passive, best tactical, and best ult in the game, which nets him a solid spot in the F tier." I died. Playing Gibby, of course. His fall from grace felt like a wild result of the shift in meta. I was so sure he'd just be the king forever. XD
That is counterproductive at best disingenuous at worst. Gibraltar has the best everything in the game and is second worst character in the game? That makes no sense whatsoever.
@@deadwalke9588well he is fat has no movement abilites so if he gets caught out he is dead and he isn’t that aggressive as his bubble is stationary so you can’t go that well with a aggressive team as others can and there is a better Rez legend who can provide just as much protection while being able to fit in any team comp and while they are also big they have ways to get out and can defend them selves better It’s like the a perfect wall with weapons and all but it is a Great Wall it has a death start like weakness and gets outclassed in his own areas despite having great abilities
@@drewblake6304 by the way wattson is talking he made the part ab fuse a week or two before people caught on the evac ult bug and therefore predicted the upcoming meta lol
As a Maggie main, all of those reasons are so true. I’ve tried to figure it out but it’s a bit hard to test the consistency of the drill because the training ground is made a lot “better” then the older maps. If they made the drill more consistent she would be so much better. Also I find the scans very useful. It’s good at giving you intel on the immediate actions of the player you just shot. A lot of the times I can shoot someone and if they are on height I can tell if they have dropped or where they have gone. It makes life easier when gathering info on the players.
About time someone said Wattson is better than Caustic and Catalyst. Everyone meat rides those two because their abilities sound better on paper, even though their worst case scenarios are far more common, worse, and/or devastating than Wattsons. (Catalyst's getting naded and/or ability spammed, Caustic's getting naded, caught out in the open, and/or ability spammed, and Wattson's is either getting emp pushed or caught out in the open, but its less devastating than Caustic because her small hitbox.) There are way more Fuses and Horizons than Cryptos, which really hurts Caustics and Catalysts ability to hold a spot compared to Wattson. If you have a versatile aggressive legend paired along with Wattson, like Bang, you really don't need the aggressive tools that Caustic and Catalyst can offer as much. Don't get me wrong, a Cat wall and Caustic ult can completely change the outcome of the game and Catalyst and Caustic are by no means bad legends. They are just far less consistent than Wattson because they have higher strengths, but devastating and hard weaknesses that Wattson doesn't share.
What's crazy about Wattson is that her abilities can STACK. Her passive can boost up her ult faster with ult accels, her ult can give her more tac fences, and she literally has 2 abilities built in to give her free shields. Not to mention Caustics' and Catalysts' traps are absolutely useless if other enemies are using that same legend as you are. They can literally run in your trapped building and not get affected or hurt by anything, which is another downside that Wattson thankfully does not share.
Big dog, did you not hear about the NC buff? His ultimate acts as a one-way watson ultimate, you can google the pach-noates, so see exactly what I mean.
I think this video was pretty long in the making. Seeing how many cinematographic videoclips he used for every legend, it must have taken quite a long time. Also the wall doesnt block gibby and bang ult.
Like that's a game changing mechanic. Also that kind of pushes the line into "legends played at their best," since this is about how much can go wrong.
Fuse's ulty is bugged as hell. I can't even count the number of times I walked through a spot where there was NO FLAME (due to terrain difference, elevation, and obstacles), and I still got hit by it 😑
Thank you for this video Wattson. My copium levels are at an all time high now, as I've been trying to get the 2k on all characters recently. I only have a couple characters left that I've been struggling with for a long time: Crypto, Gibby, Mirage, Wraith, Octane, and Altar. Glad to know that I can continue coping telling myself that most of these characters are garbage
at bare minimum passive should not notify the enemy team, tether should not really break for any reason (like why the **** can a horizon just q out and break it at will) and ult should have twice the range it had a month ago + some qol buffs (quicker draw speed after tp, easier time aiming the portal etc). These wouldnt even make her insane, they would just make her feel like a working-as-intended legend
Thank you for this Tierlist. This is the best Tierlist ever made with very good explanation why the legends are where you put them. Thanks for your time. Don't rate Pathfinder too high, please, I don't want abother nerf to my boy 😂
Bro was glazing Caustic the whole video just to throw him mid B tier lol. It's about time someone said that Wattson is better than Caustic tho. There's so many people out there who pick up Cat and Caustic because they seem better on paper and are easier to use, but then get naded out and/or ability spammed easily. I'm a Wattson main who's played alot of both Caustic and Catalyst in ranked and pubs, and I can't tell you how many times I threw my controller (shoutout controller Wattson mains btw) because some shitter Fuse emptied his inventory of nades on my spot. It's sounds like a niche scenario but its more common than you think. Sure Cat and Caustic can be really good for aggressive plays, but like you stated in the video "it's about how good a legend is at their worst, than at their best" and Wattsons worst scenario isn't as bad as Caustic and Catalyst's. When a Wattson gets caught out in the open, its much less devastating than if you were Caustic due to her smaller hitbox. Plus Wattson got shadow buffed with her passive shield regen speed being doubled so that's a neat convenience. It's such a shame so many people overlook her potential because she has a high skill ceiling and high skill requirement. It's easy to mistake a high skill character with just a straight up terrible character when you don't know how to use them.
@@samueldawkins I know, but up until he placed Caustic in his tier, he mentioned Caustics power of taking small and enclosed areas several times. He got a lot of praise for a B tier character
It really all depends on meta. Before Bang, and Fuse were meta, Watson was kind of crap, but now that Fuse is being played by everyone, and every game and team almost gaureteneed you'll see multiples of them, make Wattson jump up to S tier. It's the same thing for Newcastle. Right now all the hyper aggressive, getting 3rd, into the 4th, into the 5th partied situations, makes Newcastle absolutely S tier. Newcastle + Wattson + Lifeline, unless you're absolute trash you're going to win that game with ease. I call it the Immortal Dynamic Trio, because no matter who you knock, it doesn't matter, you aren't getting an advantage in that team fight, and they'll quickly and easily get their teammate back, while punishing you for trying to close the gap.
Maggie being in D because of nitpicks is crazy considering she is easily one of the simplest character to use and can outplay plenty of characters even when only a 3rd of her kit. I almost never have a issue using her and should easily fit in B tier as you can easily outplay even some of the best characters it higher tiers and dunk on anyone lower.
I cant play apex cause my ps4 is shitty old and dusty, so i'm gonna buy a ps5 next week and man i'm excited to get back into apex!! Love your content, it's super entertaining and well edited!!
vantage has an incredibly high skill ceiling. i thought she sucked when i first started playing her, but i was intrigued by her kit. after about a year, it’s clear to me that she just takes time getting used to. her kit can be solo oriented at times, but good communication can make up for that. once you get good with the sniper, early ring scenarios in ranked where people are rotating, i pretty much get about 2 kills a game in that one situation. not to mention her ability to take any position anywhere on the field since her tac is so useful
Love the video. I still think Ash is one of the best legends in the game when utilized properly. Her snares are insanely effective at stopping people from running away, or just doing consistent 20 damage to a team across from you whenever you throw it at them. You can also use to block doors when you’re healing, or completely knock someone off of zip lines. Her cut is extremely effective at pushing a squad after you’ve knocked someone. The speed of the is what makes it effective, not necessarily the distance it goes. I also like that it’s only way, and after a while, you don’t have to worry about another team taking that cut.
Thanks for great review and reasons behind those. In solo games some tier placement varies as you mentioned. Also in low tier lobbies getting height and good placement plays OP role compared to higher tier lobbies where people can counter and expect smart play.
the only thing i miss in this video is to actually get from when this list is, because just shortly we received some huge changes and perks got adjusted slightly and sometimes wattsons videos are like a month off so it would be good to add a disclaimer that tells us from around which date this footage is, overall i liked the video, i would have loved if we would have mentioned the huge advantage ballistic has taking a 1v1 as entry fragger in ranked lobbies, cause in close fights taking a 1v1 off drop with ballistic the Q can make a big difference, it doesnt really change the fact that he is underaveraged legend but still good video and explanations.
Something I would like to mention about fuse is that his knuckle cluster is a lot more versatile than you think and even though the damage is not the best it slows and slightly scares enemy’s so if you put it in a spot such as a open doorway nobody will walk through that so it acts like a border, and it can break doors which is very useful if you are pushing someone in a building, you can break the door than spam nades inside
One of the issues with crypto (as a crypto main) is that when you throw the drone at people during a fight it a lot of times bugs out, the player could be right infront of the drone and not get scanned for wtv reason
I'm really curious what goes into a decision like that, too, like what an odd way to be disrespectful. And for what? I suppose it's either bigotry or cowardice, which amount to the same thing. Still a weird way to do it tho
Honestly man you've been making some dope videos recently and they are all so in-depth.... HOWEVER, I honestly believe your Crypto take is the most egregious take I've heard in a long time. First of all, you said without his emp and drone he is useless, that's like saying without hounds scan and ult he's useless lol. Crypto CURRENTLY is one of the strongest characters in the game, and I'm honestly surprised more ppl don't use him. I do believe that there's a skill gap in playing the character, but the benefits are crazy. When your drone gets shot, you get the Bangalore speed passive for a couple of seconds. So when shit hits that fan, your basically blitzing the enemies. Also if your taking damage and you get to cover, you can SIMOUTANOUSLY use the drone to scout for the enemies whereabouts and while being in the drone get healed with a bat or med kit. That ability alone I think separates him for a bunch of characters based off of usability. Secondly, recently Crypto has been the literal meta in the APAC teams (2nd most used legend in North and 3rd in South). Watching Crazy Raccoon (this is reject winnity) use him and Fnatic, 2 of the top 3 in the last lan, just shows his viability. Thirdly, just taking your drone out for a second can tell you how many squads are in your poi (things you just wouldn't know with other recon legends because of the distance needed to scan). Also respawning players with the drone takes a second (I just think its bonus I use alot in ranked). Honestly, I just recently started playing Crypto, its been hard to get good but mark my words this legend is so OP and mostly one region of the Apex comp scene uses him. I'm just saying don't be surprised in the next lan when some of those teams bulldoze through NA and EMEA teams. LOVE THE VIDS BIG DOG!!!!
strongly agreed can't be in D tier gotta be at least C or B the only downside for crypto is that he lacks movement and relies on drone to activate his abilities but his recent perk improved that if he's paired with team movement legend he's A+ tier imo recent update made crypto a lot more useful without having to pilot the drone at all until you can't find any enemy or gotta hit beacon you never want to pilot drone for more than a few seconds most of the time too and that's the most skill gap thing in playing him his drone is so useful like the analysis in the video for other characters where he can recon as the best recon rn + the most safe to use survey beacon, recover failure by recovering teammates banner and instantly activate respawn beacon far from him, push with emp by breaking most controller legend setups, and even use emp as defensive tool to stall opponent pushes
@@delusion7881 I agree with most of the things you said, but you saying that he lacks movement can be said for most legends. When he gets his drone shot out, he gets the same movement buff as bang when she gets shot at but I've never heard anyone say her lack of movement is a hindrance to her character. Most top players I've seen play crypto, go into the drone(for an extending time) when they are healing (you can heal while you scout for enemies in the drone), and usually you aren't moving that much when healing. But 100% if your being in the drone a lot, yes you would lack movement, but I think the person is just using crypto wrong imo.
I main Crypto, and this probably isn’t meta but I find my favorite comp to play with is actually Fuse and Revenant, mostly because Fuse’s ultimate pairs really well with EMP, it forces them to stay still while I land my ultimate on them, and then Revenant can dash in and pick off players while they are helpless. Knuckle cluster does really well to keep enemies in cover if I need to use my ultimate really close to the enemy, so I don’t get picked off from being rushed by the enemy. And Revenant’s ultimate is just highly preoccupying for the enemy, so it gives me time to rush in after using my ultimate. There’s probably better comps to be had, but this is just the one I enjoy most
As much as i love vantage so much, i could not have agreed with you more. I definitely wouldve placed her higher, but it doesnt stop the fact that her abilities are super confusing, they require a lot of skill, and she can easily be pushed in later rings.
It would be nice if respawn didn’t add Cat into the game just to pander and widen their fan base, they don’t care about trans people, they care about more wallets being emptied. Annoying that it feels forced
@@PriMaLSunriseEA def cares more abt wallets than respawn. respawn actually cares about quality games and i don’t think that adding cat was just for a cash grab since she and bh had some cute dialogue. plus i really don’t think it’s forced since she only has one line that directly mentions her being trans, which is good that it wasn’t made her entire personality/story. then it would feel forced
we know why he referred to her with they/them & it’s disappointing to say the very least, same goes for bloodhound, who is literally voiced by a woman so i’m not sure how we got to referring to them as he/him with that in consideration
@@Tatocat I thought bloodhound was a little bit more excusable cos it’s not as abundantly obvious that they are enby like it is abundantly obvious that catalyst is a woman but yeah you are right
Vantage needs to be a long-time, long-range tracker so that it makes proper sense that she is a recon. Her sniper marker should track for, idk 2, minutes or even more; the extra damage is nice but usually not that useful. This way she is clearly different from other recons
The thing is, it doesn't even actually mark enemies afaik, just applies the damage vulnerability. I agree, it would be very nice as an actual tracking ability (heck, her voice lines *really* make it sound like it is), but then the damage multiplier would have to be lessened (though I wouldn't want it removed outright, because that debuff is also something that makes her unique). It's a trade I'd be happy to take! I'm just worried how long the mark should really last. Even 30 seconds could be horrendous to play against; no other ability scans for that long, without having some sort of counterplay. Now imagine having a 15%, 10%, or even 5% damage bonus on all hits you take, while also faced with a team that knows your every move for half a minute? It's a pretty big disadvantage, and aside from keeping your head down, there's little that a marked player could really do. Not very fun to play against. If I'm already spitballing ideas, make the Mark last 10-20 seconds, give 10% extra dmg, and either have it be visible to all allies through walls, or make it so that Vantage's passive now works on the target through walls (meaning she can now ping their precise locations for teammates through walls, along with the extra info on shield and teammate status). Not gonna happen of course, but it's fun to think about :)
Can't help but notice you never used she/her for Catalyst and repeatedly used he/him for bloodhound. I'm not assuming it was deliberate or malicious but just an interesting observation
Accidently said best to worst in the intro instead of worst to best. multiple people proofread this video this video multiple times and we missed something in the first 5 seconds xDDDDDDD LMAO. this is our first shot at content like this so please do forgive
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how you gonna say seer is one of the lowest picked legends when he was picked by 17 of 20 teams two days ago at algs. BRUH....
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@bmxergreg you really don't pay attention, do you. He explained how it wasn't played. Then, it plagued the game with 100% pick rate for a year.
you also messed up both trans characters' genders.
I just came back to the game after taking a break for over a year. This was exactly the kind of video I needed to quickly load up on all legend info again. Ty for the vid
Maggie is S tier, trust me, just give her some time to learn and you’ll understand
@@PerplexitismDo you use a shotgun over an smg with her im thinking about playing her
0:48 - F Tier
8:14 - E Tier
16:21 - D Tier
24:22 - C Tier
38:17 - B Tier
55:08 - A Tier
1:04:19 - S Tier
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@@sepehrjazayeri5181a even better hero tells you what legends and what time😭😭😭
@@PluggedInNOWse can read already in the video?
Thankyou
@@alexherrera7782Well no shit lol
Damn making an 1h long tier list video entertaning for the entire duration is no easy task
LOVE the music choices for this video. Music was the perfect volume so you could hear it, but the talking was a lot more dominant. Great video as always ❤
Think I heard Kokiri Forest somewhere in there
I like the longer type of videos. I listen to them while I work or do errands
Bro what an in depth analysis, so nice...and painfully true as my fave characters are at the lower bottom 😅😂
mirage😭😭😭
can we appreciate all the extra clips from custom games you added? the production value is crazy
seeing a weapons tier list next would be pretty sick, hearing your perspective is informative too
Man, there was a lot of work put into the video and editing. Nicely done.
As a devote Watty, nice to see a pro ranking Wattson so highly. Most Tier List vids rank her low. With a good team she can guarantee a win late game.... with a noob team her abilities are ignored.... cos the prevailing tactic of noobs is to run around like headless chickens chasing anything that moves. Then they spam revive button like your there to wet nurse them. Wattson is a team player. Alone she is a bit of a pudding.
facts she does basically guarantee a win with the right team if you get to end game
Ngl that's something I noticed about all the top ranked characters - their team value. On their own their kids are alright, but when taking into account he team value it makes the character soooo much better.
Tf are you yappin about
Bro absolutely did not hold back on Ash hoLY.
Ash is literally my assault main dude.
1. Ash
2. Maggie
@@DieguitoGamer4341 ok
@@DieguitoGamer4341ok so?
@@fumb3335 Ash is good
i one trick ash and shes been played a lot more, I dont wanna share her and I have been outpicked a lot, so I hope maybe people will stop playing her again and continue to think shes a trash character lol
As a support main in every game I could never really find a character in apex that fit my play style until conduit came out ! Ever since I got the first chance to play as her I have loved it and she has been my main since
As a rampart main Sheila is one of the best abilities in the game with the spin up perk, but the strafe speed is a good point tbh.
YOU ARE SO GOATED I LOVE YOUUUU!!! Best tier list o have ever watched! Super analytical of the legends and much more in depth than your average RUclipsrs power ranking. Thank you his Wattson you are the goat!❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🐐🐐🐐
The editing on this so go good. Appreciate the little in game skits
Awesome video! As a Rampart main I will say she’s hard to learn but very underrated. Along with shooting evacs, Sheila is perfect for playing aggressive and melting people hiding behind doors too
I can't decide what is more disrespectful Sheila or a fence on my face behind a door
@@ThatFermatuff. The fence.
what is hard to learn about her lol
I can't believe I didn't skip a second 😂 good review
The effort put into this video is nuts, so thorough and amazing editing showing off exact examples of scenarios to further show and insinuate the given reasons. FANTASTIC VIDEO 😀
go to sleep
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Go to sleep watching this😎
It’s only 1 for me
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@@seth5847This ain't imperialhal😭
One thing you forgot to mention about Crypto is his ability to retrieve banners and use respawn beacons to revive his teammates with the drone. During solo queue ranked environments, that passive ability is amazing when you have randoms that want to hot drop every match.
53:58 This caustic straight up jumping Hiswattson from the stratosphere 💀
I knew about 80% of this, but still entertaining video. Watched it all. I don't have time to watch your streams, but RUclips videos are much more digestible and are entertaining.
Bro decided to post at 4 and decided to show a random guy that made seer meta in 2022 😂
Nice pfp
@@mxitch Thank you
The only player I trust to make a tier list👍
Vantage really only needs a few tweaks to make her stronger, most notably with her ultimate. The laser being visible to enemies is one of the largest drawbacks to her kit, second only to her hitbox size for a non-fortified character. The scan the sniper applies to a hit enemy also does not go through walls, though it is visible if the target retreats into smoke. Take away the laser and let the scan go through cover, all the sudden her ultimate is in a really good place.
They'd also have to delete the red laser on Rampart's ult to be fair, but it's not like it would matter since her ult is insanely loud and recognizable.
@@SterlingArthur They should take away the lasers on all ults, it's just stupid.
Remove 1 of the tactical upgrade passives, and add in a choice to make her passive mark last longer, and visible through solid objects.
I'd also buff her tactical, to allow her to grab onto downed teammates, and use her tactical to get them out of danger. Essentially holding onto them, as she activates her tactical jump.
The laser is there to make sure that a legend who can start off the match with a stupid broken weapon has some notable counterplay. It'd be utterly miserable to play against a vantage who gets an ult accelerant off if she didn't tell you which direction she's coming from.
What she needs is to get some sort of utility that scales over the course of the game so she's not useless at the endgame.
Her tactical also needs to be reworked because it's literally just a delayed dash and the actual bird is pointless atm - that's probably a huge part of her popularity problem.
Bro that video was absolutely amazing, such a good detailed description of each legend and weighing their pros and cons. Very informative and blunt. I would recommend this to every new player.
I think your bias saying crypto is boring is what kinda of got me. He's the best he's ever been. With seeing squads on banners, his perks, and placing my drone to cover the whole teams back while we can focus one squad
I like playing with crypto, good positioning is guaranteed but how many times I solo jumped with somebody push for a hot jump, no strategy whatsoever. For these people that kind of character is very much annoying.
Reading the EMP-Port strategy being nerfed in the latest patch notes really hurt my soul
@AmiriHipHop but he's not bad, that's the problem at his worst he has always at least been close to the other actual scan legends but after the nerfs to the legends
As long as he’s dependent on his drone, he’ll never be good in a movement shooter
this might be the best use of his drone i’ve never heard be pointed out until now , a sort of protection against a 3rd party coming from behind in a spot to emp them🤔
I really appreciate how unbiased your input is because the general public would think so many of these legends are better than they really are based on how often they are played by high level pro's and streamers. That said, also goes to show that outside of the 1%, you can really just play whoever and still have fun and perform well
Ash would be so much better if her abilities weren’t so inconsistent. Her ult never feels like it’s where you’re aiming it. & her snare has to be pretty much aimed at an enemies feet for it to work. It should work like Maggie’s drill but it’s not even close to that.
YES!!!
As a wraith main I completely agree. I just love playing her lol
I am an ash main and I like this video. I won’t disagree that she is a low tier but when I play her I feel like I get to focus more on learning how to use weapons and my movements. Great video
You only play ash coz she's mommy 😋. Don't even try to deny it.
@@shalindelta7 bruh what
Thats a self-defeating defense
always look forward to watching your videos! thanks for making this
Newcastle in C tier is criminal!
He's B tier minimum!
Agreed, but keep in mind that his kit has a high skill floor. Due to his hitbox size you have to be very careful and deliberate with ability usage and positioning. But once you learn that, he's absolutely amazing.
@@AndrewPasthonestly high skill is not a good argument when u rank legends your supposed to rank them at their full potential
@@iownstaticz8687 I disagree. Like HisWattson stated - we shouldn't measure them by how good they are while everything is going well, but by how good they are when everything is going to hell. Not by their best standards, but by their lowest.
@@Papa-Truck-Kunexactly. If you accidentally place Newcastle's ult near a door that ur teammates are trying to get out of, it can become game over if enemies are chasing (not like that's a common thing lol).
@@iownstaticz8687 Right and by this logic, Wattson would be far lower than the vast majority of this cast while Seer, Vantage, Cyrpto, Newcastle and Gibraltar would be higher as a result.
I appreciate the in-depth tier list and how well thought out and explained your thoughts were. I also felt your placements made more sense than many other tier lists I’ve seen.
This video goes crazy! Nice work homie!!!
i played on realease till season 9. Just installed the game yesterday and this video was perfect. not only a good list about the Legends, even with very helpful tips. beautiful.
I will still continue to play Rampart as my Indian Lineage is too strong.
This vid was incredibly in depth, well made with all the splicing and legend icon timer in the top left. Chefs Kiss hiswattson. Love to see it.
This is the only tier list I'm interested in. So much great info. Thank you.
Such a good video! Watched this during my driving shift, I’d love to see more of these. Watched from start to finish. I bet everyone loves your insights just as much as me
"Gibby has the best passive, best tactical, and best ult in the game, which nets him a solid spot in the F tier."
I died.
Playing Gibby, of course. His fall from grace felt like a wild result of the shift in meta. I was so sure he'd just be the king forever. XD
That is counterproductive at best disingenuous at worst. Gibraltar has the best everything in the game and is second worst character in the game? That makes no sense whatsoever.
@@deadwalke9588nah it’s cause of his stats, long cooldowns + big hit box are massive weaknesses
@@deadwalke9588well he is fat has no movement abilites so if he gets caught out he is dead and he isn’t that aggressive as his bubble is stationary so you can’t go that well with a aggressive team as others can and there is a better Rez legend who can provide just as much protection while being able to fit in any team comp and while they are also big they have ways to get out and can defend them selves better
It’s like the a perfect wall with weapons and all but it is a Great Wall it has a death start like weakness and gets outclassed in his own areas despite having great abilities
@@deadwalke9588 the game has changed a lot that's why
gibby in F bc of his huge hitbox and long cooldowns, wraith in D despite having the tiniest hitbox in the game.
im a lil confused too tbh
i like this tier list a lot! i know that if post patch was considered fuse would be wayyyyyy higher, as well as seer a little higher
Congrats on 250k subs!
Even though i may not agree with him on everything, it was REALLY nice to see a fresh look on legends. Def some controversial picks in here
Bro made the video before the meta chinge predicted the fuse evac meta and it already happened when he uploaded 🗿
What ya mean?
@@drewblake6304 by the way wattson is talking he made the part ab fuse a week or two before people caught on the evac ult bug and therefore predicted the upcoming meta lol
But respawn didn’t change shit after it became popular 😂
As a Maggie main, all of those reasons are so true. I’ve tried to figure it out but it’s a bit hard to test the consistency of the drill because the training ground is made a lot “better” then the older maps. If they made the drill more consistent she would be so much better. Also I find the scans very useful. It’s good at giving you intel on the immediate actions of the player you just shot. A lot of the times I can shoot someone and if they are on height I can tell if they have dropped or where they have gone. It makes life easier when gathering info on the players.
Thanks bro I randomly woke up
Bro i just finished the video and had NO idea it was 1hr long. It was THAT entertaining.
Nice video I main Caustic ! 👍🏽
The only person's opinion I 100%rely on, great list!
About time someone said Wattson is better than Caustic and Catalyst. Everyone meat rides those two because their abilities sound better on paper, even though their worst case scenarios are far more common, worse, and/or devastating than Wattsons. (Catalyst's getting naded and/or ability spammed, Caustic's getting naded, caught out in the open, and/or ability spammed, and Wattson's is either getting emp pushed or caught out in the open, but its less devastating than Caustic because her small hitbox.) There are way more Fuses and Horizons than Cryptos, which really hurts Caustics and Catalysts ability to hold a spot compared to Wattson. If you have a versatile aggressive legend paired along with Wattson, like Bang, you really don't need the aggressive tools that Caustic and Catalyst can offer as much. Don't get me wrong, a Cat wall and Caustic ult can completely change the outcome of the game and Catalyst and Caustic are by no means bad legends. They are just far less consistent than Wattson because they have higher strengths, but devastating and hard weaknesses that Wattson doesn't share.
What's crazy about Wattson is that her abilities can STACK. Her passive can boost up her ult faster with ult accels, her ult can give her more tac fences, and she literally has 2 abilities built in to give her free shields. Not to mention Caustics' and Catalysts' traps are absolutely useless if other enemies are using that same legend as you are. They can literally run in your trapped building and not get affected or hurt by anything, which is another downside that Wattson thankfully does not share.
Good video, I just wish you could talk more about the upgrades to each legends and to say if one is more useful than the other and in which scenarios.
Oh, like the video isn't long already 😂
Big dog, did you not hear about the NC buff? His ultimate acts as a one-way watson ultimate, you can google the pach-noates, so see exactly what I mean.
I think this video was pretty long in the making. Seeing how many cinematographic videoclips he used for every legend, it must have taken quite a long time. Also the wall doesnt block gibby and bang ult.
@BlackWZRD I'm confused by your reason for your response.
@@Old_Gregg. It takes a long time to make these videos, this could've been in the making for weeks.
@WokeFella and? I never got rude, I stated a game feature that was overlooked, I never said he was lazy or a liar, nor did I cuss or call him a slur.
@@Old_Gregg. he wasn't being rude at all. You are just thinking about it too hard.
Best apex content I’ve seen this month
Ok but have you seen the new ashe tech with her throwing an arc at the same time as a snare?
Fr, I've won so many fights with this. Especially when they're hiding behind a box cause they're healing
Like that's a game changing mechanic. Also that kind of pushes the line into "legends played at their best," since this is about how much can go wrong.
Weapon tier list next? 👀 Havoc, hemlok, nemesis S tier ofc
Fuse's ulty is bugged as hell. I can't even count the number of times I walked through a spot where there was NO FLAME (due to terrain difference, elevation, and obstacles), and I still got hit by it 😑
Just jump over it😂
@@EddyTheLion u cant
And there are also dozens of times people walk right through the flames and take 5 damage and nothing else. It's such a buggy ult.
Thank you for this video Wattson. My copium levels are at an all time high now, as I've been trying to get the 2k on all characters recently. I only have a couple characters left that I've been struggling with for a long time: Crypto, Gibby, Mirage, Wraith, Octane, and Altar. Glad to know that I can continue coping telling myself that most of these characters are garbage
Hey Wattson, how would you rework ash to make her better? Id bring back Arenas, she was amazing in that.
at bare minimum passive should not notify the enemy team, tether should not really break for any reason (like why the **** can a horizon just q out and break it at will) and ult should have twice the range it had a month ago + some qol buffs (quicker draw speed after tp, easier time aiming the portal etc). These wouldnt even make her insane, they would just make her feel like a working-as-intended legend
the setup for the B-Roll footage is dope
I never clicked on a video so fast bc it was a goat
Thank you for this Tierlist. This is the best Tierlist ever made with very good explanation why the legends are where you put them. Thanks for your time. Don't rate Pathfinder too high, please, I don't want abother nerf to my boy 😂
You guys don't understand how much work he put in this and how good it is.
What makes you think we don't understand.
Who would not understand that? lol
This is a very good tire list I hope you go over the updated perks in the future
Bro was glazing Caustic the whole video just to throw him mid B tier lol. It's about time someone said that Wattson is better than Caustic tho. There's so many people out there who pick up Cat and Caustic because they seem better on paper and are easier to use, but then get naded out and/or ability spammed easily. I'm a Wattson main who's played alot of both Caustic and Catalyst in ranked and pubs, and I can't tell you how many times I threw my controller (shoutout controller Wattson mains btw) because some shitter Fuse emptied his inventory of nades on my spot. It's sounds like a niche scenario but its more common than you think. Sure Cat and Caustic can be really good for aggressive plays, but like you stated in the video "it's about how good a legend is at their worst, than at their best" and Wattsons worst scenario isn't as bad as Caustic and Catalyst's. When a Wattson gets caught out in the open, its much less devastating than if you were Caustic due to her smaller hitbox. Plus Wattson got shadow buffed with her passive shield regen speed being doubled so that's a neat convenience. It's such a shame so many people overlook her potential because she has a high skill ceiling and high skill requirement. It's easy to mistake a high skill character with just a straight up terrible character when you don't know how to use them.
that is where caustic belongs. mid b tier.
@@samueldawkins I know, but up until he placed Caustic in his tier, he mentioned Caustics power of taking small and enclosed areas several times. He got a lot of praise for a B tier character
@@oldjebidiahbrown2454 b tier is pretty good
It really all depends on meta. Before Bang, and Fuse were meta, Watson was kind of crap, but now that Fuse is being played by everyone, and every game and team almost gaureteneed you'll see multiples of them, make Wattson jump up to S tier.
It's the same thing for Newcastle. Right now all the hyper aggressive, getting 3rd, into the 4th, into the 5th partied situations, makes Newcastle absolutely S tier.
Newcastle + Wattson + Lifeline, unless you're absolute trash you're going to win that game with ease. I call it the Immortal Dynamic Trio, because no matter who you knock, it doesn't matter, you aren't getting an advantage in that team fight, and they'll quickly and easily get their teammate back, while punishing you for trying to close the gap.
Maggie being in D because of nitpicks is crazy considering she is easily one of the simplest character to use and can outplay plenty of characters even when only a 3rd of her kit. I almost never have a issue using her and should easily fit in B tier as you can easily outplay even some of the best characters it higher tiers and dunk on anyone lower.
Not bad, but Rampart should be higher imo.
I cant play apex cause my ps4 is shitty old and dusty, so i'm gonna buy a ps5 next week and man i'm excited to get back into apex!! Love your content, it's super entertaining and well edited!!
Ok, prepare to get rolled within the first 10 seconds.
@@SterlingArthur ima drop a 20 bomb first game on 😈🙏🙏
Best tier list I've seen. Thanks for not being brain broken.
vantage has an incredibly high skill ceiling. i thought she sucked when i first started playing her, but i was intrigued by her kit. after about a year, it’s clear to me that she just takes time getting used to. her kit can be solo oriented at times, but good communication can make up for that. once you get good with the sniper, early ring scenarios in ranked where people are rotating, i pretty much get about 2 kills a game in that one situation. not to mention her ability to take any position anywhere on the field since her tac is so useful
Ty for this
Love this! Thanks Watson!
love your vids
good and nice video HisWattson
Weird time to upload but valid video thank you very helpful
Great video!
I've seen you and Zeus playing Mirage lately in pred lobbies. He is OP!
Love the video. I still think Ash is one of the best legends in the game when utilized properly. Her snares are insanely effective at stopping people from running away, or just doing consistent 20 damage to a team across from you whenever you throw it at them. You can also use to block doors when you’re healing, or completely knock someone off of zip lines. Her cut is extremely effective at pushing a squad after you’ve knocked someone. The speed of the is what makes it effective, not necessarily the distance it goes. I also like that it’s only way, and after a while, you don’t have to worry about another team taking that cut.
Thanks for great review and reasons behind those. In solo games some tier placement varies as you mentioned.
Also in low tier lobbies getting height and good placement plays OP role compared to higher tier lobbies where people can counter and expect smart play.
HisWattson makes "worst tier list ever", asked to delete Apex Legends
the only thing i miss in this video is to actually get from when this list is, because just shortly we received some huge changes and perks got adjusted slightly and sometimes wattsons videos are like a month off so it would be good to add a disclaimer that tells us from around which date this footage is, overall i liked the video, i would have loved if we would have mentioned the huge advantage ballistic has taking a 1v1 as entry fragger in ranked lobbies, cause in close fights taking a 1v1 off drop with ballistic the Q can make a big difference, it doesnt really change the fact that he is underaveraged legend but still good video and explanations.
good video
hi gang *daps up*
Something I would like to mention about fuse is that his knuckle cluster is a lot more versatile than you think and even though the damage is not the best it slows and slightly scares enemy’s so if you put it in a spot such as a open doorway nobody will walk through that so it acts like a border, and it can break doors which is very useful if you are pushing someone in a building, you can break the door than spam nades inside
Why do you use they/them for Catalyst when she is a trans woman and uses only she/her? It feels a lot like de-gendering to "avoid controversy"
he uses he/him for bloodhound too which is crazy
One of the issues with crypto (as a crypto main) is that when you throw the drone at people during a fight it a lot of times bugs out, the player could be right infront of the drone and not get scanned for wtv reason
shit not only catalyst, but misgendering bloodhound too? bro..
Purposefully using they and them for Catalyst he knows what he’s doing.
I'm really curious what goes into a decision like that, too, like what an odd way to be disrespectful. And for what? I suppose it's either bigotry or cowardice, which amount to the same thing. Still a weird way to do it tho
@@maxwelljohnson5388 yep they/thems dont exist. that's fairytale English
@@thunderqueef haha yeah, it's a leftist conspiracy like gravity and pollination.
Amazing video!!
Honestly man you've been making some dope videos recently and they are all so in-depth.... HOWEVER, I honestly believe your Crypto take is the most egregious take I've heard in a long time. First of all, you said without his emp and drone he is useless, that's like saying without hounds scan and ult he's useless lol. Crypto CURRENTLY is one of the strongest characters in the game, and I'm honestly surprised more ppl don't use him. I do believe that there's a skill gap in playing the character, but the benefits are crazy.
When your drone gets shot, you get the Bangalore speed passive for a couple of seconds. So when shit hits that fan, your basically blitzing the enemies. Also if your taking damage and you get to cover, you can SIMOUTANOUSLY use the drone to scout for the enemies whereabouts and while being in the drone get healed with a bat or med kit. That ability alone I think separates him for a bunch of characters based off of usability. Secondly, recently Crypto has been the literal meta in the APAC teams (2nd most used legend in North and 3rd in South). Watching Crazy Raccoon (this is reject winnity) use him and Fnatic, 2 of the top 3 in the last lan, just shows his viability. Thirdly, just taking your drone out for a second can tell you how many squads are in your poi (things you just wouldn't know with other recon legends because of the distance needed to scan). Also respawning players with the drone takes a second (I just think its bonus I use alot in ranked).
Honestly, I just recently started playing Crypto, its been hard to get good but mark my words this legend is so OP and mostly one region of the Apex comp scene uses him. I'm just saying don't be surprised in the next lan when some of those teams bulldoze through NA and EMEA teams.
LOVE THE VIDS BIG DOG!!!!
Damn I could’ve gotten his heirloom to I got wraiths instead I was curious about him because I maimed him in the past
BRUH THATS WHAT I THOUGHT, A FUCKING D IS OUTRAGEOUS. Literally the most broken character I face.
@@spiritualski4651 Damn bro, right now he is in a great place to play ranked... I used my shards on bloodhound, and then he got nerfed lol.
strongly agreed can't be in D tier
gotta be at least C or B
the only downside for crypto is that he lacks movement and relies on drone to activate his abilities but his recent perk improved that
if he's paired with team movement legend
he's A+ tier imo
recent update made crypto a lot more useful without having to pilot the drone at all until you can't find any enemy or gotta hit beacon
you never want to pilot drone for more than a few seconds most of the time too and that's the most skill gap thing in playing him
his drone is so useful like the analysis in the video for other characters where he can recon as the best recon rn + the most safe to use survey beacon, recover failure by recovering teammates banner and instantly activate respawn beacon far from him, push with emp by breaking most controller legend setups, and even use emp as defensive tool to stall opponent pushes
@@delusion7881 I agree with most of the things you said, but you saying that he lacks movement can be said for most legends. When he gets his drone shot out, he gets the same movement buff as bang when she gets shot at but I've never heard anyone say her lack of movement is a hindrance to her character.
Most top players I've seen play crypto, go into the drone(for an extending time) when they are healing (you can heal while you scout for enemies in the drone), and usually you aren't moving that much when healing.
But 100% if your being in the drone a lot, yes you would lack movement, but I think the person is just using crypto wrong imo.
I main Crypto, and this probably isn’t meta but I find my favorite comp to play with is actually Fuse and Revenant, mostly because Fuse’s ultimate pairs really well with EMP, it forces them to stay still while I land my ultimate on them, and then Revenant can dash in and pick off players while they are helpless. Knuckle cluster does really well to keep enemies in cover if I need to use my ultimate really close to the enemy, so I don’t get picked off from being rushed by the enemy. And Revenant’s ultimate is just highly preoccupying for the enemy, so it gives me time to rush in after using my ultimate. There’s probably better comps to be had, but this is just the one I enjoy most
Referring to catalyst as they while calling bloodhound he is crazy 💀
Transphobes suddenly learning how to use they/them pronouns when they try to reference a binary trans person:
@@genessab the mental gymnastics they do to avoid calling a trans woman she and denying a nb person their pronouns
@@genessab gotta be careful not to offend that coding file being rendered as geometric shapes in a video gaming engine... might get cancelled
I noticed that lol it's not a huge deal but I was just like well that's interesting lmao
As much as i love vantage so much, i could not have agreed with you more. I definitely wouldve placed her higher, but it doesnt stop the fact that her abilities are super confusing, they require a lot of skill, and she can easily be pushed in later rings.
Catalyst- she/her Bloodhound- they/them
Love wattson's content and get his a cishet but it's really not hard at all
dude wattsons takes are always so fucking good and well thought out. what a dude.
They/theming Catalyst... a trans woman... that feels very respecful... + doesn’t BH actually use they/them?
Stop yapping
It would be nice if respawn didn’t add Cat into the game just to pander and widen their fan base, they don’t care about trans people, they care about more wallets being emptied. Annoying that it feels forced
@@PriMaLSunriseEA def cares more abt wallets than respawn. respawn actually cares about quality games and i don’t think that adding cat was just for a cash grab since she and bh had some cute dialogue. plus i really don’t think it’s forced since she only has one line that directly mentions her being trans, which is good that it wasn’t made her entire personality/story. then it would feel forced
@@vivelalunaenamorada I can agree with that!
The best tier list
Why did he call catalyst they/them and literally every other female character she/her?
we know why he referred to her with they/them & it’s disappointing to say the very least, same goes for bloodhound, who is literally voiced by a woman so i’m not sure how we got to referring to them as he/him with that in consideration
@@Tatocat I thought bloodhound was a little bit more excusable cos it’s not as abundantly obvious that they are enby like it is abundantly obvious that catalyst is a woman but yeah you are right
keep uploading video's like this becaus apex is unplayable but i like this change
they/themming cat and he/himming bloodhound is crazy 💀
How so nobody give a fuck bout that it’s a video game
Vantage needs to be a long-time, long-range tracker so that it makes proper sense that she is a recon. Her sniper marker should track for, idk 2, minutes or even more; the extra damage is nice but usually not that useful. This way she is clearly different from other recons
The thing is, it doesn't even actually mark enemies afaik, just applies the damage vulnerability. I agree, it would be very nice as an actual tracking ability (heck, her voice lines *really* make it sound like it is), but then the damage multiplier would have to be lessened (though I wouldn't want it removed outright, because that debuff is also something that makes her unique).
It's a trade I'd be happy to take! I'm just worried how long the mark should really last. Even 30 seconds could be horrendous to play against; no other ability scans for that long, without having some sort of counterplay. Now imagine having a 15%, 10%, or even 5% damage bonus on all hits you take, while also faced with a team that knows your every move for half a minute? It's a pretty big disadvantage, and aside from keeping your head down, there's little that a marked player could really do. Not very fun to play against.
If I'm already spitballing ideas, make the Mark last 10-20 seconds, give 10% extra dmg, and either have it be visible to all allies through walls, or make it so that Vantage's passive now works on the target through walls (meaning she can now ping their precise locations for teammates through walls, along with the extra info on shield and teammate status).
Not gonna happen of course, but it's fun to think about :)
Can't help but notice you never used she/her for Catalyst and repeatedly used he/him for bloodhound. I'm not assuming it was deliberate or malicious but just an interesting observation
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Can't help but notice your nose.
Because catalyst is gay trans.....
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Not everyone agrees with your biology denying woke views.