What If Paper Mario Played Like The STANLEY PARABLE?
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2023
- "When Mario came to a set of two open doors, he went through the door on his left."
Today we are checking out an INCREDIBLE Paper Mario hack called "The Paper Parable" made by Enneagon! This was played on REAL N64 hardware and can be checked out for yourself!
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Stanley realised he’d been squished to the size of paper. He was thinking what could have happened. Soon he realised, he was Mario. Paper Mario.
What do you think will happened if Paper Mario turned into Stanley Parable?
@RomanIsRandom ok
No. He’s flat Stanley.
@RomanIsRandomyour channel or dgr? If you then no
The names Mario. Paper mario
Paper Mario: *is flat*
Also Paper Mario: _Dies by being flattened!_ 😂
UHHHHHHHHH... SHUSH...
He got flattened from above
@@ItsartoTV and the side. That was the first ending Dave got.
Paper has thickness and can still be crushed even when flat, by something exerting a ton of pressure such as spring loaded or mechanized walls. He definitely would not have survived that even if he'd been smart enough to turn sideways.
@@Syranovæ Besides, a fully flat being couldn't actually be alive. THE DISBELIEF MUST BE SUSPENDED!!!
(And yeah, all that sciency sounding stuff, too.)
I’m surprised we weren’t able to find out anything more about the other Mario going through the door.😳
I'm still freaked out about that 😂
I felt like that was a red herring, the narrator shows you a visual subliminal message that erases whatever objective you had in your mind, just a way to thow you off your game basically.
Whatever you planned on doing, whatever ending you were pursuing doesn't mean anything anymore.
Suddenly, your curiosity is piqued, and nothing else matters, you need to know where that "clone" went, so you set off, following it into the correct door, only to find out you're just doing exactly as intended, you're following the "main story".
But that's not enough, you're not satisfied, you then explore every single room you've explored before, but you can't find that other Mario anywhere, and you realize that you've just been fooled and you lost a bunch of time following an illusion.
Whether that's true or not, I don't know, I've only watched this video and haven't played the game myself, but I'd be disappointed if there was something deeper to it, I feel like the illusion set to the player and the "time loss" determined by said player by going above and beyond to search for something that never existed to begin with feels very fulfilling, having closure to that would defeat the purpose of leading the player after the clone :)
Brings me back to the old days where people were trying to find out what "L is real" meant😉
@@GrowvyleThat's... actually really smart. I hope it's that too
@@danielcingari5407 Heya, I just wanted to say that your comment made me want to try out the game for myself, so I took the day to explore it, and I can't say I was disappointed.
While I didn't discover much more than Dave did, I did manage to find some little things that brought a smile to my face.
If you don't want spoilers, I'd advise you not to read any more than this:
So, first off, let's address this "clone" situation.
I'm happy to report that I'm 90% sure I'm right about my previous theory, but I can add one more thing to it, as it seems like it only appears once you obtain 7 out of 8 stars (I came back here to check how many Dave had when it happened and it was the same amount).
Once the clone appears, it is never to be seen again as far as I'm aware, hence why I'm only 90% sure.
I did go back to almost every room to check if it was in any of them, but nothing came up (I didn't bother checking everything because I'm pretty sure I wouldn't find anything new).
Next, let's talk about other unanswered questions I saw in other comments:
1. The wallet:
As you're venturing through the "Pit of 100 trials", you'll get a sidequest midway through (Floor 45 to be exact), where the narrator asks you to fetch a wallet around the 70th floor.
Said wallet can be found in the 72th floor, although I'm unsure if it's randomly generated between 65-75 or if it's always fixed.
Once you obtain the wallet, the description reads that you should bring it to the start of the game.
Finish whatever ending you're going for and on the next iteration, the narrator thanks you for bringing back the wallet, but that it doesn't add any substance to the story whatsoever (bummer).
I did go back to the pit to see if the sidequest would repeat, but it seems like the game remembers you've been there before, so you get a new line of dialogue upon reaching floor 45.
The narrator thanks you once more and says it would've been a bother to go look for it.
On a sidenote here, I probably lost about an hour or so here, but I wanted to know if any of the pipes that appeared every 10 floors would lead to a hidden ending, but all of them lead back to the start (bummer, again).
2. The mushrooms:
I hate to inform you that once you eat any of the mushrooms, you can't eat the other one.
If you eat the blue mushroom, you faint and find yourself in a cell.
If you decide to eat the red mushroom instead, if becomes impossible to interact with the blue mushroom and you have to press on.
3. True ending:
It seems like some people believe that once you get the "True Ending", you're supposed to go down the 100 floors again.
However, nothing happens once you do, and when you talk to the sign after reaching floor 100, you get the exact same message as before (yes, even the "Did you find the True Ending?")
4. Playing as Luigi (Not really mentionned, I just thought I'd add it):
I hate to inform, but unfortunately, no :(
Anyway, there are a few other things I think I should mention.
In the Blue Mushroom ending, if you wait in the cell for a bit, you'll get a few additional lines of dialogue (You shouldn't have to wait longer than 2 minutes to get them I think)
In the same ending, once you do decide to break the wall down and head to the starry sky room, if you wait after the dialogue ends, an invisible wall will begin to push you, and no matter what you do, you'll inevitably fall (My thought on this when the narrator said "Predictable" as I fell was "You prick! You're the one doing this, why am I being held accountable?")
Next, in the sewers ending, if you wait in the first platform, or if you just go slowly, a tidal wave will actually push you forward, making you inevitably fall, which will result in the plot progressing anyway, like the previous ending.
I checked every book in the library, none of them gives a different battle or a different ending, just a different book story.
I also tried getting a book from every shelf and trading with another shelf, to try and see if the narrator would mock Mario for being unorganized, nope...
I ALSO tried to get the video game guide and then jumping off the window to try and see if that would do something, but still, nope...
In the ending where you "forget" to collect the key and head directly to the main exit, the narrator opens a latch under the door which leads to a 3 way corridor.
No matter what path you choose, your decision isn't important.
I tried heading back and forth through all 3 paths, but nothing different happened.
I also tried to head to that room 3 different times to see if freshly taking a new path would give a different line of dialogue, but that wasn't the case.
In the room where you see the "clone", I can't help myself but think that the chandelier stands out too much, and that it could probably hold a certain importance.
I stood there for a while to try and see if anything happened, but nothing did.
In the treasure room, if you don't get any mushroom, after a few seconds, the narrator will ask you if you're not interested and will then progress the plot anyway.
Speaking of the treasure room, I found 2 rooms where you can clip out of bounds:
1. The Treasure room (who would've thought):
If you head left and go between the 2 large chests, then head down, you'll eventually fall off the map, but the game will bring you back up.
2. The Death Door (Such a missed opportunity here):
If you choose the Death door in the Treasure Room, you find yourself in a room where the walls close in after a few lines of dialogue, but if you hug a wall while the walls are closing in and the dialogue doesn't progress, you can spam the hammer and clip through the wall.
You can then either go back into the room, or head off and fall, and that's where I think it's a missed opportunity.
I mean, I'm sure it's a bug, or an oversight, but having a room underneath that one, and a cheeky line of dialogue for having escaped the trap would've been perfect.
I'm disappointed about 1 ending, and it's the "Matrix" ending, not the one where you need to choose a Mushroom, no, but the one where a different narrator talks to Mario at the very start and leads you through a series of corridors, just to end up in a rock and having to restart.
Unless I did something wrong, I haven't been able to find anything new about that ending, which is truly disappointing (I repeated that ending 3 times, and all of them lead to the same lava-filled room)
Lastly, the True Ending "Boss?"
I tried the boss a good...dozen times? Maybe more, but I was unable to find anything that would work.
I tried hitting every picture on its good side at least once in a single try.
I tried hitting a single picture over and over on its good side until I got hit by lava.
I tried hitting a single picture over and over on its good side WHILE collecting a star every hit until I got hit by lava.
I tried doing nothing.
I tried only collecting starts and leaving through the door.
I tried only collecting starts and waiting until I got hit by lava.
I tried hitting a single picture wrong over and over.
I tried hitting all pictures wrong over and over.
I tried hitting all pictures wrong WHILE collecting a star every hit.
I tried collecting all stars and hitting the pictures correctly.
I tried collecting all stars and hitting the pictures wrong.
I tried collecting all stars, then hitting all pictures correctly and leaving through the door.
I tried collecting all stars, then hitting all pictures wrong and leaving through the door.
I don't think anything else would be worth trying (That I'm thinking of at this moment).
By the way, there was actually a third out of bounds I found in the game, which was in this boss room, but it's not really important as you can only do it as the screen fades to white as it starts a new iteration.
Basically, all you have to do is hold up once you get hit by lava and clear all dialogue lines and Mario will fall down, but nothing happens.
All in all, my playthrough took around 4h30 to complete (With like a break or 2), but I do recommend people to try it out (Well..not now really, if you read all of this, you pretty much know everything that's going to happen)
Also, out of those 4h30, 1h was spent trying out all pipes in the "Pit of 100 trials", and another hour was spent in the cell, trying to debunk a comment I saw in the mod site that was asking if standing in there 50m would trigger a new line of dialogue (Yes, I really went the extra mile, that's how much I enjoyed this)
Still, I quite enjoyed the game, and while I haven't played Paper Mario (any of them), or Stanley Parable, I did watch videos of both before I knew about this game, and it was a very pleasant experience that really made me want to try both games :)
I probably forgot to mention a thing or 2, but I'll come back here if that's the case and edit the comment or add a new one.
PS: See, I knew there were things I forgot to mention.
First, in the "Pit of 100 trials", Floor 84 doesn't have any text.
At first, I thought it might've been a memory problem from the ROM because it had too many rooms and too much dialogue (this most definitely has nothing to do with it, but that's how I rationalized it), so when I headed back in there for the second time after completing the sidequest, I noticed the dialogue still wasn't activating, so it was most likely just and oversight from the dev.
Secondly, still on the Pit subject, if you head to the door leading to it before having found 5 endings, you'll get a message saying that access is only possible after having done so.
Well, this was a long comment, good on ya for reading all of it, and thanks! ^^
@@Growvyle Oh my goodness, you REALLY put in the work to solve our questions and find everything the game had to offer for yourself: thank you!
About the wallet in the 100 pipe room: while watching DGR's video I actually got curious about the different dialogue boxes that the narrator referred to at the beginning, so I spam-paused (and set to x0.25 speed if needed) every time DGR came across one. It was this way that I read about the missing wallet, but when he got to the floor the message said to find it on it didn't seem anywhere to be found. I'm glad you managed to find it, so thanks for answering that personal question of mine.
Kind of sucks that the Matrix room only lets you try one of the two mushrooms, but I guess that's game design.
The wall-crushing room bug would have been a pretty good opportunity if it was intended for you to hammer the walls and cheat death (with a hole or something, because expecting the player to go out of bounds on their own would have been pretty cruel), but I feel as though it would take away from the all-powerful all-knowing creator narrative. Mario's ability to "escape" and pull one over the narrator was already discussed when Mario is held captive in the tiny room and breaks though the wall, so I find it more satisfying and consistent for the narrator to prove they _can_ and _will_ kill Mario if they find need.
And as for the True Ending: I'm honestly glad there was no way to win that cube game (which you tried with excellent methodology), to give the final message of forging your own story, considering other perspectives, and looking for the real way out of a forced timeline (or of impending doom) to truly win. Making it beatable would give way to players accidentally solving it without finding that door and route, which would need another star or death to lead you back to it. I find that rather irritating or anticlimactic, so good on the game's maker (even if they left out a piece of dialog in the 100 pipes).
Your original theory about the "clone" now holds truer than ever, and I'm very glad my comment inspired a playthrough and interest of your own.
Fantastic job to you, giving us all those great tidbits of info from such an impressive and pleasantly crafted game ^^
Soon in every chatroom when DGR plays a troll level:
"When DGR came to a set of three open doors, he put on his yolo bolo."
Massive missed opportunity to put another set of doors but on the side of the 4th wall, the narrator tells you to go to the door on the right and when you go on the door to your right the narrator says "Oh dear, I said Mario's right, not yours."
Because Mario mostly always faces the same direction as you, his right is your right as well
@@sweetaplle he means on the 4th wall, the one facing the camera
This is amazing! I only watched until 7:41, not because it was a bad video, it was so good I want to experience this game for myself without further spoilers!
Just did the same honestly
Oh hey I was actually one of the beta testers for this mod! Your vid randomly popped up in my recommended just now, I'm glad to see my friend's work managed to reach outside of our humble paper mario modding community :D
Love Stanley Parable and Paper Mario! Great video Uncle DGR!
@RomanIsRandom Oh, I'm translating it. For everyone else, it says, "In a few hours, your heart will begin to stop beating. The only way to prevent this is to subscribe to this channel." Aka: really bad attempt at making someone subscribe. If you want someone to subscribe to your channel, make content that appeals to them.
The mind(s) behind this are awesome. The story was so well written!!! Congratulations for this!!
I wonder if you can eat the red mushroom, then go eat the blue one too
YESSS DGR PLS DO THIS
A romhack combining Paper Mario and the Stanley Parable is pure genius, great playthrough DGR!
You know, I was all ready to follow the story and save the day as Luigi but then you didn't let me. Everything that happens from this point forward is on YOU!
Missed textboxes at floor 45 - 33:16 , floor 55 - 33:42 , floor 66 - 34:05 , floor 76 - 34:26 .
What if the Stanley Parable played like Paper Mario?
What if The Mario Parable played like Paper Stanley?
Narrator: The red door leads to certain death. The yellow door continues the story and lets you be a hero. What would Mario do in this situation.
Me talking to the narrator: Have you never watched SMG4 my man.
There's gotta be more to the story... THAT OTHER MARIO??? The hole of death??? Great video Dave! I'm going to play the game for myself, I got to find out what that other Mario was doing....
Yeah. What _was_ with that "second Mario"?
34:06 What did that say? "The end is never the end."?
34:27 Did anyone catch that dialogue?
34:50 Oops, guess the dev (understandably) forgot one. 😆
The end is never the end is a reference to the original Stanley Parable
42:00 "Mario. Listen to me. We don't have much time" is the first bit of dialogue
This was so awesome Dave. Everything I loved about The Stanley Parable done up in a Mario game. Huge props to the creator of this hack, I can only hope to see more content like this in the near future.
You're the best Darkseed
That was mind blowing!! Wow! That was a good 48 minuets of my day!
He hit me with the YOU CAN PLAY AS LUIGI
35:35 *1 tasty mushroom on the wall, 1 last tasty mushroom! Take it down, pass it around, ZERO tasty mushrooms on the wall!*
*You did it! It got done! I wonder if it was worth it?*
Now, imagine: Instead of getting the end credits room, the narrator said in the pop-up box:
*No more tasty mushrooms on the wall, no more tasty mushrooms.*
*Go to the store and buy some more, 99 tasty mushrooms on the wall.*
Then you go into the pipe and:
The sign says: "Floor 101"
*The narrator says: "99 tasty mushrooms on the wall, 99 tasty mushrooms.*
*Take one down and pass it around, 98 tasty mushrooms on the wall.*
And it starts ALL OVER AGAIN! 🤣😫
Gonna have to call him Flat Stanley for this
So happy to see people mentioning Flat Stanley in the comments here.
This was not the correct way to go, and Mario knew that perfectly well
11:22 Good decision. I would also take the video game manual. I liked to read them when I was younger.
20:11 then it says, "we've been meaning to reach you about your extended car warranty"
8:20 Good Luigi synchro
That climax had some real dream logic, and I'm all for it.
I mean, for all that the narrator rags on the Dream Prologue concept, it would be pretty cool if it kicked off the main game.
Imagine if Mario was continually searching for Peach only to end up at the start and then find out that Peach was protecting him by repeatedly directing his path away from the truth.
And then he wakes up in an overgrown Mushroom Kingdom where everyone (Bowser included) is trapped by the Dark Lotus carelessly released.
I'm almost certain he must have missed some stuff. Never even tried eating the blue mushroom after eating the red one. Don't know if it would have worked, but it was an instant instinct for me.
What happens when you eat both?
the cover of Following Stanley is just so good lol
I was reading all the subtitles in the Narrator's voice.
This was so good, I really appreciate this played!
I never thought I'd see the day someone would combine Paper Mario and The Stanley Parable together into one ROM hack, but... guess I was wrong on that account.
Also, there's one problem with what would be a perfect ROM hack: there's no Broom Closet Ending! How could anyone miss that?
Hey DGR, just started watching your stuff here very recently and I gotta say I’m hooked man. The first video was your Indigo by Kenton_M and it was fantastic, keep up the great work. Thanks for being another awesome content creator for me to watch.
My sister loves the Stanley parable and I love paper Mario! It’s the perfect combination!
My sister didn't like the Stanley Parable as much, though she still knew about it before I found this masterpiece
It is so easy to imagine the Narrator's voice for each of those lines.
When Mario dies in the first ending I love that he gets replaced
"What would Mario do?"
Mario would go to the right!
32:57 Look Out! A Bug!
Oh..Oh my mistake. There was nothing there at all.
33:16 Oh I hate to bother you down there, but could you do something for me? The last time I was in the Pit, I came out without my wallet. Could you look for it? I think I dropped it around Floor 70. Ta-ta!
33:30 Well,hey! You've made it halfway down the Pit! That's half of an accomplishment right there! I hope you're not thinking about giving up.
33:43 Hah. Ahahahahaha! I'm sorry, it's just.... you're still here. Still descending. And you don't even know why, do you?
34:05 The end is never the end.
34:26 Do you believe that stories have Power,Mario? That the tales we tell echo throughout eternity in ways our real lives never could? And if you don't believe, well how do you explain your presence here?
35:19 It is said that those who ate of the Lotus Tree would forget their pasts, their loved ones, their lives before the Lotus
35:26 All they desired was to circle back and sleep apathetically in the "shadow of the Lotus".
35:29 Makes you think, doesn't it?
35:36 You did it! it got done! I wonder if it was worth it?
36:20 Beware! Beware! Extreme danger lies ahead!
41:59 Mario, listen to me. We don't have much time!
45:52 The castle's normally bustling front hall was completely empty. Where was everyone? Where wer the royal guards? The visiting dignitaries? And what about the Princess herself. Mario would soon find out.
46:42 Again? By all means throw yourself against the wall! it'll burst eventually!
Now, Stanley-uh, I mean, Mario, I’m gonna need you to go straight ahead, okay?
This is really high quality, wow
This was amazing!
0FH-L9N-62G “The Mario Parable” - I recently recreated The Stanley Parable in MM2. It follows the game, it’s fun, and has multiple endings.
missed out on the opportunity to call this flat stanely 😢
When I saw this had bad endings, I was genuinely surprised. Mario games never have more than one ending, save for the occasional change upon having everything upon finishing the game.
Its stanley parable that game ONLY had bad or unsatisfying endings!
@@Videospiel-Man5730 ... the freedom ending and press ending, much?
@@somethingAccurateIn the freedom ending youre still unsatisfied cause you followed the narrator!
39:56 "clone" mario appearance
Every unique diolog he skipped during the 100 trials:
At 33:17 he skipped a new dialog saying
"Oh, I hate to bother you while you're down there, but could you do something for me? The last time I was in the pit, I came out without my wallet. Could you look for it? I think I droppedit around floor 70. Ta-ta!"
at 33:43 he skipped another new dialog saying
"Hah. Ahahahahaha! I'm sorry, it's just... You're still here. Still descending. And you don't even know why, do you?"
At 34:05 he skipped another new dialog saying
"The end is never the end"
At 34:26 he skipped another new dialog saying
"Do you believe that stories have power, Mario? That the tales we tell each other echo throughout eternity in ways our real lives never could? And if you don't believe, well, how do you explain your presence here?"
The purple diolog part 1, in case he doesn't go back to read the beginning:
"Mario, listento me. We don't have much time.
Wow you speedran the game so fast and unlocked Luigi as a playable character instantly!
I have no idea about the thing this is based on but this is still really cool
The writing in this is WAY too good
7:01 OBJECTION!
IF THIS IS A PAPER MARIO ROM HACK, THEN PAPER MARIO COULD JUST STAND SIDEWAYS!
SO TAKE THAT!
This video, more than any other, proves that DGR needs to turn off the loud, jarring subscription announcement and text to voice that happens whenever people subscribe on Twitch
Lore of What If Paper Mario Played Like The STANLEY PARABLE? Momentum 100
Spent the entire video reading the Narrator in the Stanley Parable Narrator voice
My mouth hurts
7:07 The end of Mario
This looks like something the devs would make
Choosing the left door crashes paper mario
I wish this had voice acting, couldn't be anything short of maddening on original hardware though.
This just makes me wanna see you play Mayro’s SMBWii hack.
For a moment I thought you meant Flat Stanley lol
I feel like there was supposed to be more after it said true ending and you quit before the actual true ending. Someone in chat even said it wasn't over yet.
Gtlive needs to play this. I want MatPat to figure out the lore of this game, because I feel liker there is lore.
The Crystal King's theme at the end!!!
31:40 Uh, probably not very. you just have to loop the room and change a few numbers. And yeah, that was a statement from someone in chat.
Love how you played floor 69 at normal speed
Man, I love flat stanley the book!
Only one bad end and he is like i want to follow the story now.
Should've been called The Flat Stanley Parable 😂😂😂
Good thing you have all that endurance training with all them bean burritos you've been working on with your career, huh? ;)
Dave never went through the door in the room with the first Lotus
Yes he did 15:53
This Game Is So Good With Paper Mario!
Its not Mario, it was Flat Stanley! (Anyone here understand that reference? Its from a kids’ book)
Oh heck.....a Ghost!!!
The lineTM music!!!!
What music was that during the final puzzle?
Edit: I found it
I have no idea what the Stanley Parable is but I love me some Paper Mario
It's kinda like a choose your own adventure
I hope Thousand Year Door gets it too
The end is never the end is never the end is never the end
Flat Stanley
The Marioley Paperble
I once made a Mario maker 2 level recreating the Stanley parable
one thing I would of changed about the ending I would of had it end by playing the intro one last time but saying the paper parable 2 then soft locking on a the end screen. ;)
Hey dgr I think that if you go down the pit after getting the true ending something different happens.
Y'all missed the chance to call it flat stanley
Did Dave already do a playthrough of Paper Mario 64 for the Mariothon or not yet?
Well, if he did, it's hard to say when/if youtube will ever see it considering the mariothon has been stream only content for over 3 months without a word from Dave on why or if it is permanent.
Pretty sure he didn't actually finish the game based on the very last text boxes
You were supposed to go through the 100 pipes again after the True Ending ;)
I wish theres a part two
cool!
31:00 how to say stop it in toki pona.
wait... was that the ending? what if you did what the textbox did say and keep going in?
but... w a l l e t
It's on floor 72
22:32 dun dun dunnnn
Dgr moment
@DGR do a paper mario color splashwalkthough
Day 79 of asking Dave to make an official announcement regarding the Mariothon recap.
Where/when in the video was the second ghost mario people keep talking about?
39:57
maybe not happy but sated