Palpatine's Point of View of The World Between Worlds CANON
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- The world between worlds in Star Wars Rebels (canon) made us realize that there exists a time and space in Star Wars where all events in the galaxy at any time can be seen or heard. Ezra grabbed Ahsoka as she fought Vader and saved her through the portal.
Palpatine was able to open the portal, somewhat, and reach into it with the force after using some Sith sorcercy.
Here are Sidious' thoughts on the world between worlds in canon, from Episode 9 Rise of Skywalker.
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I feel like the World Between Worlds has so much untapped potential. It could honestly be the focal point for a What If style Star Wars project.
Yes
Honestly
A potential problem with it would be group from far futur opening it ...
An non jedi galaxy level menace could be a rogue combat droïd from the far futur...
"Compared to him Grievous was an hexaplegic" a jedi battle master.
Some quotes could be
"I'm not a droïd I'm an SAI i could ignore programed directive... I think and I have literaly an iron will "
"I'm not a jeudi nor a sith , but you're weaklings compared to me"
"You could use force to push your limits but ultimately metal is tougher than flesh ,meatbags "
"I've picosecond reaction time,so precogniction is just foresseing you doom"
I think visions will be that what if bud
In the words of hank hill: that’s Antonine👈🏻Hope Spelled that right. Or crazy. End Quote. Having all those what if’s will make Star Wars mean-less and just confuse, frustrate ppl. Turning it all into one big looney tunes cartoon show. With ppl saying: My Disney Star Wars is better then ur Star Wars. Hey let’s just get bugs bunny or porky Pig. No wait Daffy Duck. My comment isn’t mean, bashing and etc.
Vader: If I had a nickel for every time a Jedi disappeared before I could kill them, I'd have 2 nickels.
Which isn't a lot, but its weird that it happened twice.
Or he could be thinking that he is tripping on Death Sticks.
I would love to see a whole film or series based on sith training, like Palpatine with Plagueis, or even Revan and Malak. It could have potential if done well
Just revan
Bane and Zannah would be cool. I think it’d be awesome to see this Big bad ass Sith (Bane) trying to train his kid apprentice Zannah
@@drkinferno72 bane and plagueis
I like Darth Revan but the Deadman himself Darth Sion is pretty cool Same for Malek and Nihilus. But in my early days I loved Jerek and the 7 dark Jedis from Dark Forces 2.
But that would make sense and Disney can't do that
It’s about time we hear more about this. We haven’t really gotten any info besides the episode in Rebels.
Whenever the writers don't know how to come up with a new original story they go to the world between worlds to cherry pick characters to bring back. That's the World Between worlds
@@BP9000 Yeah, they need to stop trying to put references to the sequels in the newer content of the prequel trilogy and og trilogy.
And there was a no. Of things in rebels we need to talk about like Ezra's parents becoming force ghost
@@AparnaTrivedi-zm2fi I don’t remember that. Was that in the episode where Palpatine tried to get Ezra to open the temple and Ezra saw his parents in it?
@@BP9000 Except they’ve never done that?
Ahsoka dying was never retconned because even in the episode where she “died” a figure which we now know was her is seen going back into the temple after Vader exits. They planned for her to live all along, whether it be how they did it with the world between worlds idk
Exactly. She never died and it was incredibly obviously so. I don't get why so many people think she was retconned
@@potato22258 yeah there was speculation when season 2 ended but going now with his her head is clearly visible
So Ezra was always going to save Ahsoka? That means Ezra had no free will.
@@steveno7058 idk if the writers always planned for Ezra to do it through the world between worlds but if you watch the episode where the temple blows up she was never dead. You can see her alive walking back in after Vader leaves. You can think of it as him having no free will but I still see it as Ezra having free will because he himself made the decision to reach through the gate and grab her the same way he made the choice to not reach through the gate and grab Kanan
@@steveno7058 just because Ezra time traveled and always had to have time traveled to have saved Ahsoka doesn’t mean he doesn’t have free will. It wasn’t like he knew he was gonna save her
Ahsoka dying wasn't retconned. Dave planned it out and had it so that ahsoka never died. There wasn't a time line in Which she was killed. She was almost in a time loop of sorts, she always gets saved by Ezra and walks down the stairs on Malachore
If this is true than Ezra didn’t have free will and would always save Ahsoka….
@@steveno7058 that literally doesn't make any sense. Ezra has free will whether he saves her or not, the bottom line is that there isn't a single time line where ahsoka isn't saved by him.
@@steveno7058 It’s free will whether it always was going to happen or not.
I mean George Lucas wanted to kill Ashoka off...There was also Yoda's vision where she died in the Temple during order 66. So I'd say there were 'timelines' where she died.
@@HufflepuffJedi93 There's no evidence of multiple timelines in Star Wars. It's just one timeline and one story and she just never died (besides Mortis).
"No one's ever really gone." This is LITERALLY TRUE! In star wars, there are so many ways to cheat death... I can almost see Plaguies rolling in his grave that he missed it all!
What other ways are there to cheat death? Theres the force ghost(which isnt really cheating death) and darth Plaguies abilities. The world between worlds is the only legitimate way of "cheating" death in star wars, and quite frankly its kind of stupid. Time travel doesnt belong in star wars, but Filoni needed to keep his pet character alive somehow i guess...
According to most cosmologies, no one's ever really gone in our universe, either. So this isn't a new idea.
Actually, Ahsoka’s death wasn’t retconned. Towards the end of the season two finale of Rebels, we see Ahsoka talk back into the temple after the fight. Same thing happens when she escapes the World Between Worlds! :)
Yeah people don't get that, you can change events from happening yeah, but the person that you bring out has to go back to that same location so they wouldn't have been able Kanan as if they DID pull him out then he would still explode or been executed by the Empire. Ahsoka got lucky that the temple collapsed right after she got pulled.
Yep. This was something planned. Not a last minute retcon (like JJ & the Dyad bullshit) like so many people don’t seem to understand. We also see it with Yoda talking to Ezra etc & it’s probably how Yoda communicated with Ahsoka in S2 as well.
@@WildWeavile yeah less time travel and more they just took her out of that space for a minute. The rules remind me of Tokyo revengers
But that one pull of fate could have split the fabric of space and time in the galaxy. If Ahsoka died there, she wouldn’t have met Grogu and Din. That means that Grogu and Din wouldn’t have found the seeing stone, thus not being able to find Luke Skywalker. That means that Luke wouldn’t have taken in Grogu as his first apprentice and instead his first apprentice would become Ben Solo which leads to the events of the sequel trilogy. The World Between Worlds concept could be a pretty good way to separate the current Streaming Era of Star Wars with the Sequel trilogy, being able to expand both franchises while keeping them separate. Or just starting fresh with the current Star Wars media
So you are saying Ezra was always going to save Ahsoka? If so then Ezra had no free will….
Imagine if Anakin/Vader were to find this place around the time of revenge of the sith since he was trying to find a way to keep padme from dying and save her instead of trying all those other methods he tried doing as Vader.
I mean Dave and George created this whole concept and yes, it's dangerous to use it but if it's in the hands of Dave only, there won't be any problem because he knows how properly use it as an interesting plot point without ruining the star wars experience as a whole
And also there was no retcon to Ahsoka's death, Dave had planned the entire thing
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Glad we’re getting more sith related stuff
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This thing of removing characters from their timeline is something that even Ahsoka says to Ezra that it can be dangerous when he sees the portal to the moment Kanan sacrificed himself, although its was just an illusion of Palps. Ahsoka was meant to be removed at that moment and still she was smart and knew that she shouldn't change the events after the second season of Rebels.
It wasn’t an illusion sir, they use the same witchcraft stuff in clone wars, he was trying to get Ezra to pull him through to the World between worlds. Remember when Ashoka sliced that glowy rope? That was him tryin to get through
If we have a young Palpatine emerge I would love to see Tom Hiddleston play him.
The interesting thing to note is that it says this connects the living and the dead, not complete mastery of time. It's also important to note the two events seen in these portals was Ahsoka's moment of death and Caleb Doom's. That itself confirms what is stated in the book, the Realm Between Realms only allows you to change events by undoing a person's death.
We already know that a person's death causes ripples through the Force which transcend time and space. Anakin sensed Padme's death long before it happened, Yoda felt the death of Jedi from the other side of the galaxy and Force Ghosts can appear anywhere without seemingly needing to travel.
Therefore, there must be a place, a conduit, through which this Force energy travels for all these things to be possible but it takes a phenomenal release of Force energy, such as that released upon death, to open the way.
I'm not a fan of time travel in Star Wars, but I admit it's a way to make stories in alternative cannons, like films or animated series for the EU, and even making Lucas's version of the the Sequel Trilogy.
The sequels are part of a different galaxy. They were complete garbage, and I hate Disney for creating them.
@@Draakonian Agreed. They dropped the ball pretty badly with the Kennedy trilogy.
It's not really time travel, though. The World Between Worlds connects the living and the dead, not all of time. It just allows you to pull someone out of a situation they would've died in, not just change anything in time and since Ahsoka was shown to have been going back in the temple at the end of season 2 of Rebels, we know that using it doesn't necessarily change anything. Ahsoka was already destined to be saved and it wasn't something that was retconned or changed later.
@@ignisinfernal1843 It literally says it connects all of time and space moron
I don't think the World Between Worlds is going to be used to change events, Ahsoka wasn't shown to be dead after fighting Vader, I'm pretty sure it's the type of time travel where if someone was ever going to use it then their actions would have already been done in the moment. If someone wasn't saved through the portals, then that means someone in the future never was going to save then. It's a different time of time travel than Marvel's if that's accurate and honestly I'd prefer that if true since no events we've already seen could be invalidated then.
Something like the time travel in Harry Potter.
@@xandernoe899 Oh yeah, forgot about that but that's exactly the type of time travel I was getting at, though it's a lot harder to achieve in Star Wars.
@@solidswat2041 I think that such kind of time travel would work really well in SW.
@@solidswat2041 also so far it’s more of a one way, you can take people out for a bit but I doubt Ezra could like stay in the past
Filoni explain back then that the WBW isn't about time travel but about knowledge and destruction. You can gain knowledge of the future or futures that may happen, and you can see things that happened in the past. You can at times choose to alter them, but it's perilous to do so and when you alter something you don't know if that's not the way it always happened. So destruction is the other half of what's in there. When you go through these doorways, you're in peril of destruction because you're missing all sorts of things that would have happened or things would've happened otherwise, it's a dangerous game. In fact the only altering event we witness is guided by a creature link to one of the most powerful being which happen to have given his remaining life force to the person being saved. This case is so specific that we will probably never see the WBW being used like this again.
I’ve been listening to Plagueis on audible recently, currently on chapter 21, listening to how Palpatine evolved from meeting Plagueis to being his apprentice is quiet an arch. Plagueis MOST DEFINITELY deserves a show but I don’t think Disney can handle a story being that dark.
Only way I want Palpatine back is if its a younger version of him. A show with him and Plagueis would be bad ass. Maybe 20-30 years before Phantom Menace. They could even bring a young Maul into the series. Show some of his training.
How about no. Damn, introduce some new characters in this poor sodomized franchise or leave it alone. It's already been screwed up with the "return of Palpatine"...
@@Amp661 They didn't mean revived. They meant if they're to bring back Palpatine, it should be sometime before he died.
I'm surprised Vader never looked into this more in order to fix his mistakes, kinda like once upon a theory but more serious lol
Vader is kinda stupid.
Meh if they created that story it would be hard to tell it where in the end Vader couldn’t change stuff and had to continue his life in the suit
Well I guess he wasn’t knowledgeable about it, and palpatine would probably shield that as much as away from him
“A Long Time Ago, In A Galaxy Far Far Away...”
The original concept of StarWars was for the events to be viewed by ancient beings, watched as if they were looking through a tv set.
The World Between Worlds is legit one of the original concepts George Lucas was trying to approach for this franchise
I originally hated the World between worlds.. but if it sets up the filoni verse to get rid of the sequels im all for it
Along with the prequels.
@@Darkness1984 😂 sad sequel fan
@@randalthekidd7006 *OG trilogie fan, and rogue one.
As Palpatine was plummeting to his death down the reactor shaft… I wonder if he thought to himself…
“I probably should have been a bit nicer to that Bridger fellow. He sure would be helpful right about now!”
I’m just glad they haven’t overused the World Between Worlds, only really saw it used to bring back Ahsoka & I’m happy for that
To be honest I am fine for it to be a Mc guffin or an explanation to the time space aspect of the force.
I feel Ezra or Ahsoka is going to close the world between worlds for good so that Thrawn and Palpatine won't be able to use it ever again.
I hate to open the Pandora's Box of Time Travel Technicalities, but I think the clear message of Rebels is that Ahsoka never died, Ezra pulled her out of the duel with Vader all the way back in season 2, we just never saw it. That's why The World Between Worlds doesn't worry me so much, because they have clearly established the rules that changes to the timeline are non-linear and not cause-and-effect. If someone used it to change an important event, that change would have already happened.
Yeah this is pretty much what i was going to say
All the events have already happened so there will be no changes
Yep its like in Harry Potter , Buckbeak never died , Harry and Sirus are always saved by Harry etc...
The force itself is alive and it would not allow the control of this power to the wrong person, it is all and see's all, i believe the reason ezra was allowed into the world between worlds just to save ashoka as it knew he would. Palpatine takes what he wants but i think the force would overload the portals conduits as soon as he tried to enter, the sith magic was his only means of reaching inside.
If anyone hasn't watched A World Between Worlds, watch it right now. It is PEAK Star Wars. The stakes, the characters, the music, the way the force is used, mystical, futuristic and ancient as well as dramatic and peaceful they are Star Wars at its finest, when I watched it for the first time it was similar to how I felt watching the original trilogy for the first time it really is that good, genuine masterpiece.
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World between world isn’t time travel. Ezra was always meant to pull Ahsoka out. We see Ahsoka at the end of the twilight of the apprentice. Ahsoka never died since Ezra was always meant to pull Ahsoka out. That’s the linear timeline
The World Between Worlds doesn't change past events. Ahsoka being pulled by Ezra was not a retcon, she never died in the first place. In the same way, they can't bring back dead characters from past movies like Qui-Gon, Maul, Anakin or Kylo Ren. Because we saw them die on-screen.
You are basically saying Ezra would always save Ahsoka. That means Ezra has no free will. Which is exactly the opposite of what Star Wars is: choice to do good or bad.
💯 Agree with you General Theory Ahsoka moment was good but beyond that the back door for Mortis should not be touched, And Vader's thoughts as Ashoka disappointed "What the!? Crazy well I will never see that again fast forward to Obi Death Vader like Oh Come on!!!" 🤣 Great video as always man
What I think would be interesting with the world between worlds is that every person that accesses it can only interact with events that they have witnessed, not just every single event. That way they could counter the issues with events not feeling very impactful.
Hey @Star Wars Theory, the Corridor Crew made a video of what a "realistic" lightsaber fight might look like. I think it would be interesting to get your reaction
I agree with you Theory, time travel is too much for Star Wars. 👎🏻
It basically removes all importance of events since anything can be undone.
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I wish Star Wars would do a "What If" or something like it like how Marvel did with the MCU. It would be cool I think.
Hey Theory I really enjoy your videos and the time and effort you put into them. After seeing this video I saw your point of view and crazy ironic but right below this video of yours was “ Dave Filonie on World between Worlds “ and he talked on a lot of the same points you touched on as well. So I just wanted to encourage you to watch that video too!
Master Windu, I think that Theory is a sith lord...
I get your point of like what if they overuse it but I believe they won’t and are doing this so they can kind of retcon the ST or for them to bring back Ben Solo. But there’s so much they can do with this. Like a what if type of scenario, but as long as Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau are in control or overseeing it, I’m happy. They care about it as much as we do and that makes sleep right at night
Can you please do a "what if Yoda was a little younger when he fought Sidious?" The battle would be epic.
Star wars what if
1. What if five lives
2. What if Ahsoka return to the order
3. What if anakin stayed in Umbara
4. What if order 66 failed
5. What if the Yuuzhan Vong invaded early
6.What if Luke had a daughter
7. what if qui gon survived
8. What if obi wan and satine had a daughter
9. What if Vader survived JOTJ
10. What if the Rise of Skywalker never happen and being switched the duel of fates script.
Here's an idea.
What if the entire sequel trilogy is an insight into the future which Luke Skywalker sees when he goes off to find Ezra Bridger as way of helping Ahsoka (book of Boba fett establishes that connection). When Luke and Ezra meet and greet, a surge of power flows through them as they are both connected. Luke is the key who has the highest mediclorian count in the galaxy and Ezra is the defacto door into the world between worlds because he was the one who could open the door in rebels. Together they both see into the future and how no matter what happens, the sith survive. Then they meet up with Ahsoka to tell her and everyone decides that the best way to counter the sith is through the jedi order and that they must go back in time and try their best to ensure that order 66 doesn't happen and Palpatine is stopped only to find that there is a much bigger conspiracy about the sith than they knew.
I’m actually writing a fan series about the World Between Worlds that’s in a similar vein as Death Battle or Super Power Beatdown. Bringing certain characters with similar attributes to come to realm by the will of the Force. Rahm Kota vs Kanan Jarrus, Rey Skywalker vs Rey Solana (Duel of the Fates), Ahsoka Tano vs Starkiller (post The Force Unleashed 2), Leia (Canon) vs Leia (Thrawn Trilogy) and MAYBE add a third Leia (Infinities). I did add rules when writing the scripts:
1. no one Dark Sided can go there because the temptation of the Dark Side can have them try to change historic events throughout the timeline.
2. no one dies/wins/loses/etc. because of the will of the Force (as Freddie Prinze Jr. said “skill doesn’t dictate whether you win or lose, the Force does based on balance”).
3. both characters must be at similar points in their respective timelines.
Having an extremely dangerous power like the World Between Worlds can be a good way to raise the stakes so long as the power is never really attained. It's like the Valley of the Jedi in Dark Forces II, or the Ark of the Covenant in Indiana Jones. I think Dave Filoni understood that when he wrote the Rebels story, and considering his position at Lucasfilm now, it's probably safe to say the galaxy is safe for the time being.
100% agree... knowing Disney though they’ll just fuck everything up
I find it absolutely fascinating. But I can see your point of the dangers. Dave Filoni should be the only one allowed to use this concept to be safe.
What i understood of world between worlds is not that it changes the past. In the contrary, what happens inside already happened. It is lile harry potter time travel. Ahsoka tano was saved by Ezra, but as you said, we never saw her die. Because Ezra saved her. But when he wanted to save His master, Ahsoka stopped him, because if he did not sacrifice himself, Ezra would not be there => paradox. So at least if Disney had some logic, they would not use it to CHANGE what already happened, like brong qui gon jin or ben solo or whatever. Since we SAW these people die. I doubt they can even bring anakin or padme
Ezra might be the key to fix the Sequels, heck it could be one of the best things ever from Disney to get rid of all sequel shit.
Re young Palpy. Was it ever confirmed about Matt Smith playing a young Sheeve clone in a deleted scene in Rise of Skywalker?
Looking forward to this video, AS IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT PALPATINE WANTS TO DO! NOTHING BAD I HOPE!
One possible way to offset using the World Between Worlds as a cheap way to retcon things is to make certain events in Stars Wars as fixed points that cannot change or if there is any attempt to change them there would be a galaxy ending event.
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I think it was hinted at in the Mandalorian when Ashoka asks”Where’s Thrawn?” We will meet Ezra and let the retcons begin!
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when palpatine come back young its reakly ironic how Ian McDiarmit plays his younger self when beeing older and the old palpatine when beeing young
People focus too much about the time travel shenanigans part of The WBW here is how Filoni describe it back when the WBW episode was aired :
"I don't really think of it as time travel. It's not really a thing where you go through one door and out another in a different time. The world between worlds is really about knowledge and gaining knowledge. As the Dume wolf says, what's in there is knowledge and destruction. You can gain knowledge of the future or futures that may happen, and you can see things that happened in the past. You can at times choose to alter them, but it's perilous to do so and when you alter something you don't know if that's not the way it always happened ( Ahsoka was always saved by Ezra). So destruction is the other half of what's in there.
When you go through these doorways, you're in peril of destruction because you're missing all sorts of things that would have happened or things would've happened otherwise, you know, so it's a dangerous game but it's not something we're here going in and out of different doors. It's an extension of the Jedi's ability to perceive the future and the past, as described in Empire Strikes Back."
In fact the only altering event we witness is guided by a creature (Morai) link to one of the most powerful being ( The Daughter ) which happen to have given his remaining life force to the person being saved ( Ahsoka). This case is so specific that we will probably never see the WBW being used like this again.
I think they’ll play on that when Ben kissed Rey he was being pulled out from the world between worlds but it could be a wound in the force so the force itself would destroy the world between world like it used Luke to destroy the Death Star.
I really like the concept of the World Between Worlds. Like yourself I am not a fan of time travel in Star Wars HOWEVER! Part of the reason I like the WBW is because Ashoka, in her sage wisdom, makes it clear to Ezra that this really doesn’t work like time travel as we’ve seen it elsewhere.
The potential, as Palpatine said, exists to change reality with it, but that makes sense. It’s the ultimate end goal of the Sith. To have power over reality, to twist it to your whims.
That’s why Ezra, a relatively green Jedi was able to access the WBW relatively easily and the frighteningly powerful Sith had to struggle just to barely touch it. Ezra was, in a sense, invited. He followed the portal’s own steps and rules.
A Jedi lives in accordance with the Force, a Sith seeks to dominate (and thus corrupt) it.
So, unless someone really seeks to abuse it like that Lego Star Wars thing, I’m not as worried about the World Between World’s existence because it seems less like some kind of easy cheat and more like something mysterious and rare.
imagine young Palpatine seeing visions of him dying from his descendant and also from the skywalkers(vader and luke) and being confused as to how this is possible to forsee two deaths.
The Sequels are looking so much better now, and they were clearly well planned. Palps learned how to become a Sith Force Ghost-ish from Plagueis, and learned on his own how to use cloning to live forever. This is what he was telling Anakin in the theatre. To live forever.. he planned all along to try make a clone body and transfer his essence or force ghost to it when he died. It's just a step further than Jedi Force ghosting. Reys Father was a failed clone attempt, Snoke was simply a cloned apprentice. His cloning plan goes all the way back to before the prequels. The Sequels, The Mandalorian and more are all starting to reveal Disney's larger grand plan of Palps immortality. It's really Great long term planning and writing by Disney to develop this storyline.. much like how the MCU think way ahead. Brining Palps back in EP 9 wasn't a knee jerk decision, it was clearly planned all along and your opinion about the Sequels is small minded. Think bigger, like Disney does. lol
Having the worlds between worlds power gives you a power to alter and shape reality
Hey theory could you do a vid on if vader found ezra's time portal and brought padme back
The world between worlds is really the place where all "What if?"s could be made. Imagine the galaxy if Qui-Gon gets pulled out just before dying, the entire galaxy would change.
Since Starwars isnt multiverse i doubt that happends , marvel what if is canon in multiverse , but starwars wont make that canon
Most people didn't like world between worlds because they were just thinking of it as just time travel. I believe that while could be one interpretation it was more like a lesson for Ezra. He was told by the wolves that he had to save the past to protect the future. It was about knowledge. Yes he saved Asoka but she reminded him that he could not save Kanan because it would kill him and everyone else and wouldn't be worth it. He said it was 9ne last lesson and he knew Palpitine wanted that power. He then destroyed the temple because of that.even when he was presented the opportunity to be with his parents again by that power he said no and goodbye to his parents.
I want them to go into the World Between Worlds to change the events of the sequel series and recon Episode 7, 8, 9.
A Palpatine backstory training under Plagueis would probably be happening one day. Plus Thrawn Trilogy and Dark Empire Trilogy are probably happening in Mando-verse! Luke probably fights a young Palpatine clone just like in the comics and thinks Palps is defeated for good but is mistaken.
Your talk of a younger Palpatine from another timeline seeing his counterpart's fate makes me REALLY want them to do a "What-If" style show for Star Wars😁
I got yeah! Ezra was successful with retrieving Anoka in Rebels but why not his mentor (Kanan). The reason why was explained, but would get old using that storyline too often. Enjoyed that one time.👌
It's good that you used the term Hieroglyphs, StarWars has always had real human history interwoven into the story. In this case the Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyph for beloved daughter is a bird with a woman. The difference however is the woman is kneeling behind the bird, obviously the episode displays the image differently.
Please don't mention the sequel trilogy
Personally I think time travel is a pandora's box of problems. The only reason I think it worked with Ahsoka is because her being saved was what happened the first time. So nomatter what ezra was always going to save Ahsoka at that moment, kinda like he was fated to.
That moment with Ahsoka also adds a nice way to retcon the sequel movies if they want. Basically say the time line splits on weather or not Ahsoka dies. If she lives she tells Din Jarin to go to tython and grogu contacts luck to save the later, snoke is never created and Palpatineremaines dead. If she dies grogu never goes to tyhon and is not saved by luke, snoke is created and palpatine returns.
I want to see more with Qui-Gon , Obi-Wan , Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader & Darth pledge The Wise.
I think Ezra opening the portal didn’t have to do with how powerful he was, but more how lucky he was to be in that circumstance. He was led by Kanan, who has a connection with the very wolves that are present on Ezras home planet. A lot of things had to fall into place for it. I’m sure any other Jedi could have opened it if they were in Ezras place
I think they did just enough with the World Between Worlds and shouldn't do anymore. They showed the power/plane existed (which helps justify force Ghosts in my mind), they showed Palpatine wanted it, they cleared up how Ahsoka survived Malachore at the end of season 2, and they gave Ezra his last big test/trial/lesson that Ahsoka and Kanan taught him which he used to sacrifice himself and save everyone. He destroyed the portal/Temple and it should stay closed imo. I agree, the dead should stay dead at this point...it takes away too much otherwise.
Based on the artwork for the reveal about the Ahsoka series, I feel like we may be revisiting the World between Worlds in that series, maybe once she’s reunited with Ezra. Any number of things can be changed, up to and including a sequel trilogy retcon. A retcon may be unlikely, but it is possible
It could be a surprise but the world between worlds feets perfectly to Star Wars. Because of such strong things as KOTOR 2 with Chris Avalon writing or Darth Vader 2017 by Charles Soule we know that the Force has a free will, that determines the will of every living creature by controlling them and biding together with the power of the energy field. That determination helps us understand why no one in the galaxy can use WBW to change past - Force will not allow this. The Force saved Ashoka from the Vader using Ezra as a tool. That's why Ashoka has never actually died in that fight. And there were no chance for Palpatin to succeed. Just like Lord Momin couldn't change the past. He could restore his original body in future but only to be defeated by Vader. Because It is the will of the Force and Anakin should fulfill the prophecy. In Harry Potter this way of time travel is a great mistake, cause It leads to paradoxes. If the characters know exactly how the flywheel of time works they could change events with their free will . Nothing can stop them from making paradox of murdering themselves in the past. But in Star Wars the Force can prevent such things to save the proper flow of time in the galaxy far far away. (Excuse me for bad English!)
With the World Between Worlds and some possible time shenanigans, it would at leadt be interesting to see them bring back flow-walking from Legends. Perhaps someone wants more than the small changes you can do in flow-walking and seeks the WBW for something more substantial?
JFC this is not going to be used to retcon Episode 9. It didn't change Ahsoka's death because we never actually saw her die, we were just made to assume it happened. Ezra going through the portal and saving her was what was meant to happen, he didn't change or prevent anything.
I'd watch the hell out of a series based in the old republic on Korriban following an acolyte becoming becoming a sith sorcerer. I would absolutely love to learn more about with sorcery
omg Dave is genius again. After Vader saw Ahsoka to disappear, he told Palpatine about it and Palpatine started to wants to get in the world. Thats why in season 4 he was ready to enter.
5:12 we didnt have a problem because at the end of that episode we saw ahsoka alive.
A movie adaptation of “Plagueis” would be awesome. No need to bring anyone back or time travel. It’s just another Prequel… which were awesome.
Taking “Rebels” into account and retconning the TL, do you think that the world between worlds played a part in Vader’s reaction to Kenobi”s disappearance in ANH?
I think you can only access the WBW when you’re a Light side user, not Dark Side, if y’all remember, Sidious was clinging to Ezra trying to get in, but Ahsoka slashed the connection burning his hands
It’d be cool if only Ezra is capable of bringing things or people back through the portals, while everyone else can only watch, this way Ezra has his own special thing that he won’t abuse.
Could prevent ani from becoming vader, save his mother, keep him from getting chopped up. Possibilities are endless. Although the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural
Young Sidious would be a beast! I would love a series or multi part movie based on a young Sidious!
One definitely has to use the World Between Worlds right, so I'm glad it is so hard for someone in Star Wars to use.
The world between worlds is essentailly the 5th dimension from the film interstella, you can access any point in time and space, Im curious to see how they bring it into live action
With the iconography in the Asohka logo, I'm sure they're making a change.
Though it would have to be recent history to not spiral out into something unrecognisable, or that is what happens and they choose to go. Back and stop themselves.
Star wars theory do you think if Palpatine would have been able to gain access to the world between worlds do you think that he would have used it to prevent Vader's injuries on mustafar
They could probably show a vision of young palp through a force echo ability maybe that would be cool
Since Ezra and thrawn are both stranded together, imagine if thrawn tried to get Ezra to reopen the world between worlds. That would be very interesting I think.
Got an idea. What if we pull back into life Maul, Vader, Greivious, Mace, Yoda, and Kenobi. Than we have a super brawl in a arena outside the time-space? Just like in Dragonball?
We could call it the _All Time Arena_
I don’t think Ashoka’s death was ever retconned, also wouldn’t say they you can change events using the World Between Worlds. I think Ezra always saved Ashoka, and any time they use the world between worlds they contribute to time by acting in a way which always happened. Not changing or altering events.
Can the world between worlds be how momin resurected his younger self in the vader comics? I've always thought it was a bit odd he got his body back and no change to the timeline
Instead of bringing someone back, they should use this to make sure Palpatine doesn’t come back in the sequels and fix the timeline.
I was just watching your no ordinary cane unboxing.