12 new stealth aircraft headed toward service
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- In 1983, the United States put the world's first operational stealth aircraft, the F-117 Nighthawk, into active service, beginning a monopoly on low-observable aviation that would stretch across more than three decades. In 2017, however, that monopoly came to an end when China's J-20 entered service.
Today, there are at least a dozen new stealth aircraft in active development around the world. Here's the breakdown.
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Further Reading:
NGAD coverage: www.sandboxx.us/blog/did-lock...
F/A-XX coverage: www.sandboxx.us/blog/the-mass...
B-21 Raider coverage: www.sandboxx.us/blog/heres-yo...
New US aircraft in development: www.sandboxx.us/blog/5-secret...
The latest fighter tech: www.sandboxx.us/blog/what-kin...
F-22 upgrades: www.sandboxx.us/blog/americas...
FC-31 coverage: www.sandboxx.us/blog/chinas-n...
H-20 coverage: www.sandboxx.us/blog/h-20-wha...
Su-75 Checkmate: www.sandboxx.us/blog/checkmat...
Pak Da: www.sandboxx.us/blog/russias-...
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FC-31 www.businessinsider.com/china...
Pak DA: tass.com/defense/1160253
TF-X: www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone...
KF-21:www.aerotime.aero/articles/so...
GCAP: breakingdefense.com/2022/12/u...
FCAS: www.airbus.com/en/products-se...
AMCA: www.thehindu.com/news/nationa...
America's been pioneering stealth since the 70s it took us a lot of lessons to figure it out so other countries just to show up and say we have stealth would make me laugh they're going to have a lot of problems the US ran up against in the early 80s-90s
they got 20 to 30 years of catching up todo and by then the US we still be 30 Years ahead
europe made stealth drone already
The first jet to incorporate stealth features into its design was the Lockheed A-12 which first flew in its full design configuration in 1963. Stealth was considered to be a vital feature after earlier experience with the Lockheed U-2 which turned out to be much easier to track than expected. An effort was made to reduce the U-2's radar signature called Project Rainbow and aircraft with these modifications first flew in 1957. There were also a number of unmanned drones that incorporated stealth such as the D-21, but stealth is quite a bit older than Have Blue and the F-117.
I mean this is true, but a lot of the issues are easier to resolve now that computer modeling is light-years ahead of what they had back then.
Very nicely done, Alex. You and your team are doing an outstanding job. Thanks and keep them coming.
And yet he still refuses to make sex with you...what a prude hey.....
Alex and his team? YOU mean his mom and his dog? He claims to have a degree in communications from a garbage school in NH. He has no idea what he is talking about, but he does have nice graphics. LOL
Nice job mispronouncing words.
@@punchthem4582 😂 thank you Comrad! Let’s hope you aren’t sent to Ukraine anytime soon so you can continue to troll RUclips and improve your English!
While the rest of the world still has vertical tail fins on their 6th gen designs.. the US already has vertical tail-less designs, that just shows us the level of technology the US has in terms of stealth.. The US still is maybe at least 10 to 15 years ahead technology wise in stealth ahead of everyone else..
So many of the new fighters look very much like the F22. I wonder how the engineers who came up with the F22 form way back in the late 80s feel about seeing their work echoed in airframes that will be used probably for 6-7 decades after it was first conceived.
Testors F-19 was the coolest thing in 1986.
Yes and utterly unflightworthy
Good to see it again in Stealth
I was in Norway in 1987. You could buy a Testers F-19 stealth aircraft from the USA and a model Ekranoplan (Russian "stealth" aircraft, as it flew below radar) off the same shelf in the local hobby shop.
@@Meower68 I won't be jealous much.
OH MY GOD HOLY SHIT I had a matchbox model of one of those as a kid and never knew what it was. thank you
France: "Stealth is outdated and ineffective against our Rafale and it's vaunted spectra."
Also France: "we are also building a stealth fighter."
The French are just like the Turks, untrustworthy. 🤮 Even the Germans are more reliable. Although trusting them is not something to be recommended. Go ask Poland.
Some kids at MIT I figured out how to detect stealth using passively configured consumer wifi routers, and a whole lot of compute.
Stealth only works well against Fourier transforms. Once you can data mine in real time the jig is up.
France has a well earned reputation for being on the losing end of a battle.
@@jtjames79 Many systems can detect that a stealth platform is present, somewhere. But that is far from a fire solution to shoot one down. Which just adds to the inherent fear factor of stealth.
Just wait for the loyal wingman drones to reach front line service. Then failure to precisely locate them takes on a whole new dimension for enemy air defence assets.
- Invisible man 3D chess.
@@rudolphmarchand9644 France caused the USA to win against the British, so they had at least one important victory, just sayin' :)
The Indian aircraft will be a true revolution. The world has never seen a stealth plane powered by an afterburning two stroke motorcycle engine.
Watch out mate...you may have to eat your words...someday....
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I don’t have high hopes for that one. Their tank and Tejas are pretty bad. Maybe it 20 years
I love how the west keeps undermining India and we always surprise you peeps at the pristine moment .🙂
@@MeanLaQueefa Explain how Tejas is bad ?, Don't just blabber words in thin air. Tejas has the most lowest rcs in all of light combat fighters. It has a composite body structure. Has a fairly good engine , currently has a Israeli radar but will have UTTAM indigenous radar. Can fire Astra bvr, derby , brahmos ng and various other air to air and ground weapons. Is a multirole highly manuverable fighter. Costs very low for its features. It's an excellent replacment for IAFs ageing mig21s.
That’s funny asf…..❤
Unmanned aircraft have so many advantages, endurance, stealth, cost and range with refueling that manned aircraft are already obsolete
Thanks again Alex! Good info as always. You also bring up good points to counter the other ones made.
I love the design of su 57.very unique beautiful design.Topolev bomber also looks nice
I love this channel and the passion and knowledge of Alex.
Well done!
An excellent overview of the current stealth developments!
The fact the US has been testing 6th gen aircraft while other countries have yet to is crazy. By the time other nations get their first 6th gen aircraft delivered/built the US wouldve started 7th gen testing…
I mean... if you think about it, I can't think of a stealth plane operational today that doesn't have some amount of US IP in it, legitimate or otherwise. Even the Su-57 is as far as I can tell an almost checkbox by checkbox facsimile of the F-22's design requirements mashed up with an Su-35 from the back and someone's impression of the F-22 from the front. And we've been flying stealth aircraft for at least 35 years at this point. 30 of those years, we were the only ones flying them.
That's the way it is. Funny thing is to my knowledge the SU-57 and especially the J-20 are really poor as far as stealth goes. No doubt they have gotten better though. Mainly through IP theft but better nonetheless. Yes I'm biased deal with it to anyone who doesn't like my username LOL.
The US is already working on 7th gen likely.
@@JMurph2015 Regardless though the Su-57 is no match for the F-22. Despite what the Russians claim, it's not stealthy, as it's been getting caught on radar firing into Ukraine.
@@Optimaloptimus I’m sure conceptually, planning and R&D wise yeah. But in terms of having something built and testing id doubt it
Thank you Alex. Your presentation are very informative and give one a big WOW feeling after finding how far science is progressing. Yes, I do know there is only the tip of the ice burg this has become public knowledge. It is still, quite something to get our minds wrapped around after viewing one of your excellent presentations. Again THANKS..
I've seen the KF-21 referred to as a 4.75 gen plane, seems fair tbh
Probably more like 4.69th gen, to be fair :)
Never mind 6th gen, it’s crazy how no one has even been able to match the 20+ year old F-22.
@@CakePrincessCelestia Nice
@@CakePrincessCelestianah 4.68 at best
KF21 is 4,6 technolgy
Just give us the YF-23....... I'll be a happy chappy 👌
look at Japans new fighter and you might have an idea where some of the widow went. I believe the Widow was turned into a high speed ISR/Strike platform
As an F-22 fan boy, I really wish we got the F-23 as well. They both had their strengths and weaknesses to each other...
You and me both! In the 90’s the YF-23 seemed to be such a better platform. I guess the F-22 has held its own. Now it has its first kill ! Oh wait, it was a balloon. 😅
Give the people what they want
It’s old tech now
I had a U2 fly to the east of me this morning around 6am heading north to land at Beale AFB. Luckily, I'm on the flight path to land when coming in from the south. Last summer there was a U2 flying overhead in a low flight path for the Air Show at the former Mather AFB. I was able to get a nice photo of it on my cell phone as it was so low.
9:18 Damn, was hoping he’d call it the Su-75 Femboy
r/NCD leaking again xD
I'd totally be down for that to become the official NATO designation :D
I'd hoped they were going to call the J-20 "Farfetch"
Made of wood: should be the Mossiemate.
I know these are almost all renderings, but the Tempest looks like a real beauty! She's gorgeous! And the RR engines are truly beasts!!!
Considering India said they could see china's "stealth fighter" on land and plane radar, and China is actively trying to buy Russian planes, I'd say they're "cheng du i see you" isn't very stealthy
This is a common misconception. So you can see all 5th generation fighters on low frequency radar but that’s not of the necessary quality for an exact location much less a weapons grade lock. So you can see them just closer in and with much less definition
@@wolf-xf6hf This is true. But I remember hearing that Taiwan was able to use their own radars from the numerous amount of intercepts they have performed to estimate the J-20's RCS to be about 0.05 m^2, which is alright, but not very good compared to the American planes (usually 0.0001 - 0.005 m^2).
@wolf 101 I realize stealth doesn't mean invisible to radar on any frequency, and at any distance, but the point was, (and you're right, I'm sorry I wasn't more clear) they weren't having any problem detecting them in general, to the point that India said they wouldn't consider them stealth, although I realize stealth is more of a spectrum than a yes or no. Hopefully that makes more sense than my original comment.
Ofc, this could be some hyperbole on Indian part but it didn't seem to be given how quickly China pulled their planes off the front line. If you have other info tho, I'd always be curious to hear it.
@@totalnerd5674 That figure is generally agreed to be accurate, although it is a little on the low end. Other computer simulations generally arrive at similar numbers.
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 Well at least it is better off that the Su-57, but that is not saying much...
Seeing how India said their SU-30MKIs had no trouble tracking the J-20s, I wouldn't call it a stealth fighter.
That must have been at cruising/ferry speeds as Indian SU-30s lost lock on two Pakistani F-16s which had invaded their airspace once they passed mach 1 - and the R77s they fired pitbull (due to no lock) didn't lock either! The Indians were furious which is why they ditched R-77 for Derby and pulled out of Su-57 as the Russians couldn't fix the problems with their RADARs. The IAF must be overjoyed with their reliable Rafales, planes that actually perform as designed after experiencing Russian junk for so long.
Let's get real here Tracking yes It's loud and not invisible and low frequency radar detects it too. But Weapons/missile lock is whole different field again. Concept of stealth in jet fighters is not going "invisible" it means harder for enemy/opponents to weapons lock your fighter.
@@LondonSteveLeeindia not did loose su30mki against f16 for your kind information
@@LondonSteveLeeand for your kind information Pakistan lost f16 and we lost mig21 and not su30mki okay
@@RajathHathwar Who said India lost an Su30? India chased two Pakistani F-16s out of their airspace after a well co-ordinated interception. The Su30's lost the RADAR lock on the F-16s as they transcended mach 1, apparently due to RADAR jitter, they fired two R-77s pitball which also failed to lock. The F-16 escaped despite being on the Su30's nose. Russian junk.
Looking forward to the NGAD, because that's my favorite Upcoming Stealth Aircraft among the ones being made, with the F/A-XX and the B-21 together coming a close second.
I think they left out the "loyal wingmen" aircraft to accompany the B-21. It will surround itself with stealth drone fighters to kill off anything that threatens the B-21.
Kinda like a bomber escort but better.
@@protorhinocerator142 I see
Excellent compilation and description of these aircraft.
Love this channel. Always informative. And more important.... always accurate.
Tks for the updates Keep them coming
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Yet again you make such an entertaining yet very informative video that’s also easy to grasp whether you’re an expert on this topic or a newbie.
I’ve yet to watch a single video of his that I didn’t thoroughly enjoy!
I’d really like to see a video that goes more in depth into some of those other fighter programs. Especially the KF-21!
Great video, it really brought it all together, thanks
Good job Alex. Keep them coming. Waiting on your take of the UFO downings this past weekend.
All future aircraft are intended to be airborne comms / recon nodes. All of them. Whether US-built, China-built, Russia-built, it doesn't matter. Land-based on sea / carrier-based, you name it. Manned, optionally-manned, fully AI ... all of them.
The F-35 happens to be an airborne comms / recon node which is quite stealthy and can shoot back at you. The current incarnation of the U-2 is a not-so-stealthy comms / recon node, which we are flying today; it started out as a recon aircraft but evolved with digital tech and increasingly-advanced comms. The B-21 will be a stealthy one which can drop 20k lb of high explosive on you.
Any aircraft which isn't one of these is going to be target practice for weapons systems which are.
All current and future aircraft have a "digital twin," which allows you to test tweaks / alterations in simulation, before you get to the point of "cutting metal." Heck, even buildings have digital twins, anymore. You know the Falcon 9 and Starship have digital twins; that's why SpaceX was willing to build, and crash, Starship prototypes; they were trying promising new designs and collecting very large amounts of telemetry with which to evolve the digital twin. Their digital twin evolution on the Falcon 9 is why they now have boosters which have flown over a dozen times. More flights → more telemetry → more evolution on the digital twin → improved design and small, incremental tweaks to the physical construction → improved vehicles.
Many of the stealth aircraft you talk about in this video have passed "design reviews," meaning the digital twin has evolved to a degree and people feel they are ready to start cutting metal. Exactly where the money will come from for that ... I suspect that's a large part of what's wrong with the Su-57; they've got a digital twin, of some kind, and they've cut some metal but they're still evolving the design (see the above reference to Starship) and they're having a hard time finding the funds to cut some more metal.
That said, I love the amount of info you can cram into < 20 minutes. Keep up the good work.
I know the F-16 is still evolving; still wishing they could come up with a larger, more-capacious, faster, possibly stealthier version of it. Not sure how they can clean up that gaping maw of an intake, though. Spent multiple years as a 45254B / 2A353B (F-16 tactical aircraft maintenance specialist) so I have a soft spot for that bird.
Thank You Alex, love all your videos...can you possibly give your analysis on the Ukraine Russia war...would love to hear your take and possibly give some perspective from your own experience in the military..I'm sure all your listeners will be very interested in your take on the current situation and also some predictions of what to expect with the outcome...
Crazy! They all look like cross between F-35 & F-22
Always good stuff. I forget, but have you done a piece on adaptive cycle engines and the material advances therein?
Alex, You asked for ideas for future shows. I have always wondered why in the heck jet fighters cost tens of thousands of dollars per hour to operate. I think it would be interesting for you to do a very detailed breakdown of the specific line items that go into those estimates . maybe a bit nerdy for some, but I would watch.
From my understanding a good chunk of that is the maintenance to flight time ratio.
Like an average road car might need 3 hours of maintenance for every 600 hours of driving time. While a performance race car might need two hours of maintenance for every hour of track time.
These machines need something closer to 600 hours of maintenance for every 3 hours of flight time
The same reason 129 wings for the a10 warthog cost 1,1 billion dollars to replace: greed and corruption.
Because you have to pay maintenance crews... Parts, fuel, and maintenance are why it's so expensive
it’s maintenance mostly
Pretty sure that number includes the over all cost of the project even a jet in use for 10 years still equates a rather large number when 10s of billions or more go into the research, construction, prototyping, testing, the workers, the accidents, the facilities and that's all before they ever even build one for its first use in service only to land and immediately go back to a hanger to be maintained after each flight even if it's just to confirm integrity or to replace munitions so for what hours of flight and your already probably closer to hundreds of billions and still climbing after each flight or round released
Love how China calls “stolen everything” home grown…
Well done. Very well presented.
Holy crap- the Chinese even stole Pratt & Whitney's logo for the J-31 tail
FCAS may have a carrier variant, to replace the Rafale M, but we'll have to see. GCAP / Tempest so far reports are no carrier variant. Not sure what the UK will do for 6th Gen carrier capable jets in the mid 2030s to 2040s - perhaps just stick with 5th Gen / F35 plus loyal wingmen or convert QE class carrier at midlife refit to full flat top with EMALS and buy American F/A-XX if they're available for export & the deck is long enough, or some other option.
Sweden, has the Gripen 4.5 gen. The cost of developing 6th gen (and family of systems) is substantial, either you're a super power or you have multiple high GDP economy's working together, so would seem either they join in with GCAP to maintain indigenous skill base or ... who knows.
Thanks for the content, great as always.
I had forgotten South Korea still flew the F-4 and F-5.
If it ain't broke...
@@MarvelousSeven it will be shot out of the sky by modern air to air missiles
@@-p2349 yeah! those modern air to air missles North Korea's known for
Whenever I see people say stealth is dead, my first response is, "Then why is everyone trying to develop it?" The only fighter that's been developed recently that doesn't focus on stealth is the F-15EX because it's been developed in the country with two operational stealth fighters. When you got two operational stealth fighters, sometimes what you need is a missile truck that just happens to be built upon the backbone of a fighter with a k/d ratio of 104-0. Honestly in a future war, the stealth fighters may end up just being spotters while the F-15EX gets to have all the fun.
Thank you for sharing
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Great disclaimer upfront.
I'd point out that you don't need to have the best technology, just enough to defeat/dazzle your enemies. So enemy selection is important.
More deep analysis of the NGAD please
Fantastic content!
Well done vid - thanks!
If Sweden is smart, they'll give Saab all the headroom and funding needed to develop their own stealth platform, be it 5th or 6th generation. With how badass the Viggen was (only plane to regularly intercept the SR-71 Blackbird) and under-rated the Gripen is today, I have no doubt they could come up with something that would leave the European/Japanese effort in the dust, let alone the Russian and Chinese ones. (Though the Mighty Dragon looks impressive for a rip-off.)
There is no aircraft on the planet that could intercept the SR-71 at design cruise condition.
@@TheJustinJ Except the Viggen did. 6 times. Complete with missile lock. and yes, flying on the Baltic Express and at full cruise.
Whenever I see the PAK-DA I literally burst out laughing.
oi liked this video before I watched it because you never disappoint!
Great round up. Best milair reporting in youtube
6:05 Those who can, do. Those who can't, steal.
Alex, can you cover the 5 upcoming US VTOL platforms? I’m really hungry for information on the Ultra platform, not just the medium represented by the Valor that seems to be most prominent.
Excellent stuff bro
Stealth changes the range of a radar guided missile lock dramatically….. just sayin
Just as stealth improves, companies will want to improve the capability of radar to break them.
@@Appletank8 not really as simple as that, you’ll run into laws of physics pretty quick.
Gallium nitride radars represent a bit of a jump in capabilities but there’s not any possible breakthrough that could really transform radar detection range when we are talking about a single radar.
Anti-stealth developments mostly pertain to using multiple radars, using different types of radars, or linking together other forms of sensor data to augment radar. Most of these with the exception of the latter are exclusively ground based due to size and weight constraints.
Despite how much hate the F-35 got initially saying how it couldn’t dogfight, it’s pretty telling how every other country developing a stealth fighter is basically making a derivative of the F-35.
F-35 doesn't need to dogfight, it'll destroy you before you even see it
The checkmate looks like the challenger to the F-35.
Great job Alex!
A lot of faux-35s out there... I think the key to US superiority will stem from more resilient stealth material, that ceramic coating you mentioned previously, as well as our ability to target stealth aircraft and engage.
Su 75 made of wood? Wood is stealthy! Until you go supersonic. Then it catches fire!
If there’s no jet left then there’s nothing for radar to detect! Very stealthy)))
Excellent update. Some great idea's for my next Slick Moaner adventure.
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Very good video, thanks!
I have an f35,f22,euro fighter and mig 35 they are very good remote control aircraft.
Swede here: in my understanding, we (Sweden) were/are only involved in the Tempest program for exchanging technology. We have our own 6th gen fighter program called Flygsystem 2020. I don't think it's clear yet if we will be going forward with it or scrap it and go for the Tempest instead. I'm not up-to-date on any details so this might have changed now though.
Thanks for pointing that out. Without knowing I suspected it was tied to the joining the NATO thing maybe. But yeah, Sweden always had their own (cool) airframes :) (loving the Viggen!)
I think I remember reading that too, though if my memory serves they stated 5th gen.
I didn't know about Flygsystem 2020 program, cheers.
@@jacobbaumgardner3406 you are correct! It was 5th gen they have stated. This is also what they have said: "the goal for Sweden is to repose on the British Tempest program to integrate some of its technology to its own Flygsystem 2020".
@@nj1255 this will be interesting to see. Honestly this feels more like Sweden. I was always as a Brit happy they’d be willing to join, but equally confused because is just didn’t feel like the Swedish thing to do.
It won’t be closing anyones socks offensive, but if they can make essentially a 5th gen Gripen I think they’ll be set.
I am curious how much technology GCAP will be willing to share, especially since Japan is also now involved. If Flygsystem plans to export it will become a GCAP competitor.
Its crazy how far ahead the US military is compared to the rest of the world. F22 took its first flight in 97, and it still remains the greatest air superiority fighter on earth. Russia came out with the su57 in 2019 and only has 7 and most arent even combat ready. The rest of the world is catching up to the Raptor, only to be left in the dust by the new 6th gen. Just insane
That is if they just aim to match rather than leapfrog and go straight for 6 or 6+. Not saying they could do it but never assume that the the enemy isn't at least as good as you.
@@richardmeyeroff7397 if they cant match our 5th gen 20 years later, i dont think we need to worry about them making a 6th gen
@@Christian-fg3we The idea that we don't have to worry because they haven't matched us at this time is a false. If you are a company and a rival has come out with a better product then you have do you just want to to come out with a matching product a year later or do you try to exceed what your rival and give them a problem and early obsolesence for there product.
Steve Jobs said I know that someone will come out with a better product then I am selling right now and i want that someone to be me so they are always trying to compete with a moving target.
@@richardmeyeroff7397 that's why the u.s may very well already working with 7th generation lol
F-22 is air dominance, not air superiority. The USA abandoned air superiority when the F-15 was introduced.
Air dominance (F-22) > Air supremacy (F-15) > Air superiority (P-51).
The NGAD is the Next-Gen Air DOMINANCE fighter. It will be air dominance like the F-22 but supposedly better.
Air superiority assumes the other guy has a realistic chance of winning. The US Air Force doesn't play that anymore. No chance. You lose. Nothing flies unless we say so.
Alex great job!! How about a piece on the TR-3b?
Good work!
So what happens when everyone flies a 'stealth' fighter? No more long-range missile exchanges. Back to WVR combat?
That's a genuinely hilarious possibility. We got so advanced that we went back to star wars-style combat lol.
But I'm assuming missile technology is gonna advance as quick as stealth technology. Possibly.
Of course it might be possible that all of the west's enemies fail to develop their own stealth aircraft(Russia in particular doesn't seem like they're gonna field their stealth aicraft any time soon). So unless the west ends up fighting each other(a lot of things have to happen before that ever becomes a genuine possibility) I don't think we'll ever see stealth on stealth action.
Stealth doesn't stop you from being detected or tracked completely, it just means it gets closer to a radar before it evetually does get detected. The counter to stealth is to make bigger and more powerful radars with higher energy outputs. One thing you'll note about these aircraft is the radar power is going up from previous generations. Even Navy ships are being designed to have a lot of reserve power for future radars.
We may also see a more multi-spectral approach. IR sensors, longer wavelength radars, OTHR, use of machine learning for target discrimination, multi-static radar setups, high speed-low latency interconnectivity of global and space borne sensors (a part of big data) etc.
@@fluoroantimonictippedcruis1537 Not just for future radars but also possible energy and mass weapons.
Makes you wonder about the A12. First, it was the future, then, suddenly, it was pulled from production. Was it a stealth fighter gone black? Maybe it was too good to let the public know it was still an active program?
Well done Sandboxx
I'm waiting to see development of _High Observable Drone_ technology, which could be used for diversionary tactics. Small, light, super cheap, and long range, without much or any attack capability, they should be designed to simulate much larger aircraft to radar arrays. Send them in from the west, while the truly stealth aircraft attack from the north.
You mean a decoy. Those have existed from the 50s
@@trumptookthevaccine1679 did you get a high in your bottom from that comment???
USS Kidd?
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Could you imagine going up to intercept a flight of B-52s and getting smoked by a stealth fighter like an F-22 or F-35.
Thanks mate.
For the Tempest RR already has the engines at MOD1 status (MOD2 will be even more powerful) . Some were put in a Typhoon for test purposes. Apparently that resulted in a fair bit of swearing from the test pilot as the aircraft acellerated down the runway even faster than expected. I dread to think what the Tempest will be like as it will be near 10% lighter and have nearly as much thrust at military as the Typhoon on full afterburner. IE 17.500 pounds dry compared to 20,000 full afterburner. My best guess is 32,000 pounds air combat weight and 54 000 pounds at full thrust. That's a power to weight of near 1.7 to 1. I think flap retraction and such like will have to be automatic because otherwise the pilot will run out of hands.
I don't know if you have heard of this but I think it would make a good video for you. I read maybe three years ago that Israel fielded their F35s in combat a while ago and nobody knew they were even there.
Great video.
A super jet can be like a US carrier battle group? Impressive Alex
Russia shouldn't even be on this list, lol. One plane doesn't exist, one plane is a wood mock-up and the 57 has the same RCS as a FA/18 from the 1980s. Based on this information looks like the United States is way ahead in time of production, quality, capability and, most importantly being able to afford these platforms.
Should have been the "Honorable mentions. At least they tried." section :D
@@CakePrincessCelestia agreed
I think there are essentially timeless, (archetypal) designs that once the platform is "developed" just need "resto-molding". Like B-52, Wart Hog, Howitzers, combat rifles.
Genus in the generation "five" combat aircraft all the way to the "ground" and space". That integration with the new Air Force stealth "Raider" (drone) with independent continuous plasma multiple drone's is the game changer
I think I would rather have groups of 50 f-35's than all the non production gen 5 or 6's all put together. By the time there are hundreds of some of these planes there will be 3 or 4 thousand F-35 A, B and C's
Concerning China: the problem of advancement through theft means you’ll never be ahead of the curve because you’re always waiting on your enemy to do the work and when it comes down to it, you’ll never understand it as well as the people who originate the technology.
Yep!
That's same as copying from your classmates, but test comes and u fail ...
As far as the Korean design I think that it fills a hole that many current stealth 5th gen and 6the gen designs have. low payload capability. This is one of the reasons that the USAF is buying F15EX's to really put the hurt on the enemy once the stealth platforms have cleared, hopefully, a path. The Korean plane as a clean sheet design may be able to do it better.
Here's a crazy idea. What if an aircraft carried the weapons on the top instead of the bottom?
At least the missiles for launching would be able to do so.
@@protorhinocerator142 putting the missiles on top caused all kinds of aerodynamic problems lol it’s a terrible idea
My uncle has an F22 and he let me fly it. Haters will say I'm lying
I believe you
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Sure i believe you 😂
I fly a potato. Some call it UFO but I prefer if people called it a potato
Is his name Sam?
Haters would be right too
Question for you. Can you do a video on what is the next generation or vehicle that will take the place of the A 10. New to your channel and haven't seen one on the future of that type of aircraft
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Didn't know the B-21 was planned to be an AWACS as well as a bomber.
I feel the B-21 is just a decoy like the 80s Star Wars program. Designed to get your enemies to worry and spend more on their secret programs. Why make an airplane that looks the same as its predecessor? You can just update the older bombers.
That’s gonna be really interesting, imagine a AWACS plane but stealthy! That will be overpowered
Tempest started as a 5th gen design I think. Best thing I think that could happen though is the French, German and Spanish designs come over to the Global Fighter and design a family of planes for all N.A.T.O members and special allies
I think that the F-35 program has cooled everyone on "alliance planes". The F-35 makes other countries very reliant on staying in the US's good graces to keep getting technical support and new units for the F-35. While I agree with the decision made to kick Turkey out of the F-35 program for cozying up to the Russians and buying S-300's or S-400's from them, it definitely sent the message "wait a second, it might be useful for us to be able to make our own planes in the future". As much as our allies trust the US, they very reasonably should take any necessary steps to maintain their sovereignty.
The tempest has always been a aircraft better than 5th gen F35.
The U.K. will go with Japan and Italy. Most things with the french and Germans get difficult
It won’t happen, for the same reasons France quit the Eurofighter consortium: France’s interests and needs are not the same as other nations’ needs. With the SCAF program which Spain and Germany joined it is the same: France builds the Next Generation Fighter, Spain and Germany participate in other facets of the SCAF program. France needs a carrier capable fighter, thus such as with the Rafale there will be a carrier version.
@@JMurph2015 I don't trust Recep Tayyip Erdoğan he wants Turkey to become the new caliphate and recreate the Ottoman Empire in it's prime. How that will sit with his friend Putin and Iran is anyones guess.
@@Statueshop297 What makes the tempest better than the F35 from your point of view? Just curious.
Yes, absalutely.... Great fighter jets and
Bombers in the world
With decades of advanced hybrid material reinforcement engineering experience, integrated advanced radar absorbing materials into the entire structure vs over-coatings is a game changer for consistent stealth capabilities while significantly lowering maintenance operational costs.
The original F-117 stealth fighter (actually a bomber) was very primitive by today's standards. Back in Desert Storm, nobody even knew what stealth was until we announced, "Oh by the way we have a plane that's nearly invisible and can walk past your air defenses." The F-117 only carried two bombs, and the bombardier had to keep the target painted with a laser. The bombs cost about a million dollars each. Very expensive plane to operate.
Newer aircraft are orders of magnitude stealthier, have more better and cheaper weapons, and are much more maneuverable.
@@protorhinocerator142 Cheaper weapons? Not.
Stealthier? Only in dry perfect conditions from specific cross sections.
@@icare7151 Cheaper weapons? Yes.
We went from laser-guided munitions at 1 million apiece to JDAMS, which were about $20K apiece. JDAMS are fire and forget.
@@protorhinocerator142 🤔 We just shot down a balloon with 2 $495,000ea missiles, the first one missed.
@@protorhinocerator142 Stealth had been widely talked about since at least the early 80s and the B-2 was unveiled to the public in 1988, but you're right in saying that the impact of stealth wasn't fully appreciated until Desert Storm.
So interesting. And I think that Korean plane looks the most promising, despite being the least stealthy in theory.
The fact that they have a working prototype is impressive
@@mharley3791 Lockheed Martin was involved in the development of KF 21.
@@mharley3791 The TF-X is currently a working prototype too.
What about the SR-72 Son of Blackbird?
I think the focus of this vid was on manned aircraft
SR72 was always envisioned as unmanned
Never going to get built because it would be pointless and other platforms already do the job better than it could, for less money, have less risk of detection, aren't as limited in where they can be used, and don't require an absurdly expensive and complex logistics chain to operate them. The Blackbirds were truly iconic technological marvels that are probably the most beautiful aircraft ever built, but they were also a technological and conceptual dead end.
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I can only hope that we have learned our lesson and put all of our detail and intellectual properties super secure!
I know we all say "stealth isn't really invisible, it's just harder to see or has to be closer to a radar to be seen" and I get that but the B21 absorbs 85-90% of radar directed at it, depending on frequency, which imo is getting pretty close to actual invisibility.
Except your opinion is straight up wrong. Any camera or eyeball can still see the B21, therefore it is nowhere near invisible.
Definitions and facts dont change because you have an opinion on them.
@@dynestis2875 invisible to radar dude. If you are trying to identify planes with visual technology say hello to the bomb dropping on you from 80,000 feet in the sky from 40 miles out
I think this mostly refers to jets due to their observable features like control surfaces or tail wings but yea the B-21 is getting shockingly stealthy I just hope americas stealth defense systems are keeping up
@Dynestis no they don't. But when we are discussing radar reflective characteristics, something can be *invisible to radar,* which should have been exceedingly obvious, since no I didn't mean, nor did i ever say it was optically invisible. No one was discussing optics. It's probably not completely invisible to FLIR either since it has to leave some kind of heat signature.
So nice try, trying to look smart or just trying to be a tool.... you can go back to the real world where you're still an insecure loser since I can't imagine anyone else having the time or onous to make a comment like that otherwise, incel.
The radar cross section of an F-35 is likely to be at least 50,000x smaller than that of an F-16 and over 250,000x smaller than that of an F-15. The absorbent materials help but it's the shape of the aircraft that seems to make the biggest difference. Of course, they also need to minimise their IR signature and if you look at the jet nozzle of an F-35 you can see it has a very complex design to reduce the visibility of the exhaust.
I have no faith in the cheng du or Russia's 2 "stealth" fighters, however the PAK DA... I'm curious to see. I feel like it has potential.
why
Why to which part?
there will come a time when a physical pilot is no longer needed rather than a video gamer .
can you tell us where do you have the presentation video with holographic design 0:22? thank you
I could be wrong but was stealth theory originally based of a Russian technical paper. Originally meant to hide a warship.
No...Nazi germany
I believe that’s where the idea came from yes
The physics behind it was… a US engineer actually applied it to make stealth
yes
Try Germany in ww2 with the Horton ho 22 I think?
America had a flying wing bomber not to long after that as well.
Thank you for covering the AMCA from India🇮🇳
A little correction - WE pulled out from the FGFA (Su 57) program because of the hurdle in TECH SHARING ToT
2. India does have a 6th gen program which will be AMCA MARK 2
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