"My dad blew $15 million... how do I help him?"
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Bro.... Call your dad, ask what happened, write down every single word, and launch a book called "how to blow 15 millions in 15 years"
That would be a book worth reading
He could make it back on that book.
@@codybullington2015 They could even make a remake of Brewster's Millions !
That actually an insane idea contac this man.
*dad
I can't believe his dad didn't put $50,000 aside for his sons' education. jeez.
Jameel Ja My dad makes minimum wage and he has enough to put a little aside XD
Pay for college myself... my parents don't pay for any of it
Luke Border this could be understandable if your parents don't make a lot or are struggling. But this guy's dad had $15Million. If he put $100K or even $50K aside to help his son it would have went a long way.
LOL. Parents do not owe their children a post secondary education. They owe their children an upbringing that empowers and enables them to function successfully in the world when they reach adulthood.
David Oberle
You are correct they do not owe them that but at least they owe them a level of truth such as there will be no money for you when you graduate so you will have to make your own decisions.
Raising a child, sending them through school , encouraging education then to land it on the child as they are just attending college that the father more than likely encouraged is just sad.
You cannot say it is not sad or that the child does not have a right to be annoyed. Families are all based on the parents responsibility and choices.
The kid didn't want money he wanted to help his dad. Dave missed the question
Yes that made me mad.
He spent it. The end. He just learned a lesson that that was stupid. Doesn't necessarily mean he needs help.
I disagree. This is all about money inheritance/entitlement. Can’t blame him for being mad but it is what it is. Wasn’t the kids money!
@@pegasus8873 I agree. He has no financial responsibility to care for his dad after this stupid mistake, but nor does the dad owe the kid anything after he turns 18. Now it is a virtuous thing and biblical sign of righteousness for a parent to leave an inheritance. So the Dad is, and rightly so due to age, expected to be more mature and virtuous. That being said, if dad and mom now expect son to take care of them going forward they are even more jackasses. It is better to leave no inheritance to your children and make them pay their own way through college than to do those things, but saddle them with the financial responsibility of caring for you in your old age. If you sacrifice being able to take care of yourself when older to "give" the kids anything, you are actually putting debt on the kid. Instead of the debt being to a bank, the debt is to you. The GREATEST thing you can do for your children's adult futures is make sure that you yourself is taken care of in old age.
I don't think he totally missed it he just spun it a bit differently than how he asked it.
Or he could have invested that 15M and lived off of 300-400k interest a year with no need to work for the rest of his life...
2% of $15 million is $300,0000. It's not that hard to get 12% these days if you are financially sophisticated.
@@chessmentrip2293 Do not ever handle your family finances again.
10% of $15M is $1.5M. Divide it which way you want.
5% - $750k
2.5% - $350k
It’s very possible.
right now banks are giving negativ inerest rates
@@chessmentrip2293 He has 15,000,000, not 1,500,000. 3% of 15 million is around 450k
this kid is smart. I loved it when he said "I love that answer". Kid sounds like he might actually has some self-reliance.
No it doesnt. It sounds like he doesn't know what to do because his parents cant pay for his college anymore and that he felt he was entitled to a part of that 15mil
Banquet Dinner morally, he was.
@@banquetmeal663 I mean if you have $15 million you should definitely put money aside for your kids college expenses
It sounded to me like that's not what he came to hear and he responded just to respond.
rockster10101 yes well said
My father also made good money in his working life. Not as much as this guy but it was a lot. He and my mother ran through all of it. Seeing a man in his seventies crying about how much he used to make is a strong object lesson.
Drogo Baggins :-)
Drogo Baggins My dad is the same way. So he abuses credit cards to maintain his lifestyle. He's already filed bankrupty once.
The same thing happened to my grandparents. They liked to gamble
I'm all about enjoying your money, in doses. Like if you're making 500k, you can live like you make 200k and still put the rest away. Sounds to me like your parents thought they were entitled to spend money and kept up with joneses.
And this is coming from someone who has made a lot of money. I'm still enjoying it because I worked hard for my lifestyle. That's like telling Dave Ramsey he shouldn't buy his big house and car. None of your business and he makes his money and can do what he wants.
"I love that answer". This "kid".......he gets it! Respect.
To blow 15 million and not think of saving that money for your son is just selfish. Dad must of have a gambling problem or on drugs
Also selfish of the son to assume he would get even a cent.
Most likely gambling. When I was on drugs im still fine with money. When I got addicted on gambling pooof the money is gone and gone in debt.
Andy Co 😮
@@brysoncherry9884 So...I shouldn't buy my mom a house?
probably an alcoholic
Everyone is saying it's not the son's business since he didn't make the money but I think the son was calling because he is scared he will have to financial care for his parents when they are old because they blew through millions. This is the son's business and he is going to have to have the strength to set boundaries and let the parents sink even if they have to live at the YMCA at 90.
It’s fun to stay at the.... Y.M.C never mind I’m old.
Live at the y lil
musiclover1971 And some of it could’ve been put away for the son’s inheritance.
I haven't seen any comments saying it isn't his business
@@bettyechols6405 Oh, I've seen plenty.
The fact that a 20 year even calls Dave says a lot. He’s a smart kid. He’ll be just fine.
wisdom doesn't AUTOMATICALLY come with age
sadly yes/
The beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord
I find that out just now.
@@davidaragon6499 Amen!
@@def6420what do you all fear in regards to the Lord?
I'm just curious. Is it just the heaven and hell consequences?
that money went up his dad's nose.
100%, and/or gambled
alphafemalecomix they go together
Bruh!!!
Business was probably fraudulent
My dad blew 2 million within a year when I was a teenager. I don’t know 🤷♀️ how he spent that much money but hey it wasn’t mine.
Good attitude.
It’s pretty easy!
@@fembot521 exactly, I work in a casino
If his parents made that much as a married couple, it’s hard to be the wife would only get $1 million during the divorce.
I believe he said the business blew up right after the divorce and she only got any money because she was a small partner in the business. Sucks for her that it blew up right after the divorce though lol, especially having to watch him blow through all of it.
@@laurenhill1394 shows that she was a bad woman and a bad wife. Every successful man has a good woman behind him DURING his success
How does he blow 15million in 15 years at 5% interest he would have 750k/ gross income without even touching the principal ...
Nici Geelhoed people who don't earn money little by little don't really have any knowledge of how to control it. that's why 90% of lottery winners go broke almost immediately. people want to be rich but you can really almost not be made rich. if you don't scratch it out bit by bit in most cases, you'll just lose it.
If I had 100 million it would last me my life and than some /100 ...
I'm 17 and never really have had money.
@Thelondonbadger No it was 15 mil after taxes and 1 mil for mom after taxes also.
I knew of this common sense when I was like 10 years old. $1million with just 4% a year interest would allow you to get 40k a year already. $15mill, even at 3% would be $450k a year, that's top 1% salary, and you usually get to pay less taxes for capital gains.
Hey a Lamborghini in every color available ads up the 2.5 million dollar home costs a lot to maintain landscaping insurance taxes with no money coming in 15 mil is gone fast oh and the gold teeth
Blowing through 15 million dollars is a behavioral decision, Dave has talked about this a lot, money is 80% behavior 20% head knowledge, this man probably thought that the 15 million will be around for a long time, he probably thought he would always have money, but in reality, money is infinite, it eventually runs out without self control.
[Proverbs 27:22-24] "22 Though you grind a fool in a mortar with a pestle along with crushed grain, Yet his foolishness will not depart from him. 23 Be diligent to know the state of your flocks, And attend to your herds; 24 For riches are not forever, Nor does a crown endure to all generations."
People who *shouldn't* be having kids are having them and people who *should* be having them are not. that is whats wrong!
This is how idiocracy has come to life
Aghhhhhhhhh I love that answer 😂😂👌🏻
woodland tomb 😂😂😂
Can't take it with you. Probably an ungrateful brat anyway.
He had an epiphany
What a weird guy.
Yeah that statement was just really weird.
Dad made it,dad spent it.
Dad is a fool, kid is a fool.
davesny302 so is the mother! She hasn't worked since blowing the money!!
Dad made it,dad spent it and Dad disappointed his children by not being a role model.
Why even get married if people think like you do?
Thus children will have to take care of him when they get older.
SasaM Amen !
I totally understand his emotions my mother who is a hoarder received a $300,000 inheritance from her parents and squandered it all on her hoard which eventually had to be cleaned out a majority of it thrown away. I'm very angry about that just like he is. I didn't find out about it until I was in my late 40s. But it still makes me sick everytime I think about it. Now my mother lives with me because she has no other place to go and she could have been well taken care of in her elderly years if she hadn't squandered that money. She could have made that money grow for her. As it was she even took out a second mortgage on her house so when we went to sell the house she actually had to pay $5,000 in order to get rid of the house.
kari KF, that is so sad. I know it has to make you sick. My friend inherited hundreds of thousands of dollars when she was 17 and other than a sports car, spent it all on drugs and rehab. It all had absolutely nothing to do with me, but it still sort of haunts me, someone running through that much money with nothing to show for it.
KMF t👻👻
Ya this is why your parents’ finances are your business.
Lol... Theres a government department that takes trashed money and they can recover as much as they can from water damage, burns, etc.
@Sponge Bob Hoarders horde different things. My mother hoarded mostly paper. Or she would buy things in the mail and then never open the boxes. As far as trying to add up what she spent $300,000 on I really honestly couldn't tell you. I know that she went on a couple of trips and bought a new car that was fairly modest but other than that I have no idea. It is absolutely amazing what hoarders can waste their money on and have absolutely nothing to show for it in the end.
This all depends on whether the dad promised college money to the son. My grandmother gave me $16K for college and my parents spent $14K before I even graduated high school. Depends on the situation.
Joe Edwards my parents robbed me too. it hurts, but I hope you've worked it out since then
Crazy. I'm the exact opposite. My parents had $32,000 set aside for my college. I declined it. Got a .43 scholarship, 2 grants, worked full time, and a student loan. Parents sold the boat and got a new one. I always heard stories about how you learn more and appreciate college more when you pay for it yourself. I have no regrets, glad I turned the money down.
i Bee Amazin Shouldve invested in a business not the college scam
22 APVCHE I have always wanted to be an engineer. Now I am. Worth every penny.
i Bee Amazin I'm glad it worked out for you
I think some people missed the kids point of view, and watching a close friend and mother of three waste about 1M also and is now taking out 500 dollar loans from payday lenders had a bankruptcy and car repossession just a few years later after receiving it the son is worried, not mad I think dave missed a little of what the son wanted in this phone call
Joshua Woodford Yes so do I ....I think he missed some of it too....he dont Let folks talk sometime
I think Dave got the point, and his answer was a way of telling the kid "you don't need to worry about this, your dad will be okay, just focus on taking care of yourself."
I love that: some people are mentors and some are just lighthouses to keep you off the rocks! Dave has great wisdom!
His dad probably inflated the numbers to impress. Probably squandered 1.5 million.
this is like the family from arrested development lol
"I've made a huge mistake."
My parents haven't given me cent to help me out since i left my home at 17 even though they are well off. Now 24 and just got my first home, don't need or expect them to help! I dont owe them anything and neither do they owe me, I prefer it that way
Boss Some people should never have kids.
@@barbararepko4824 yup. Your mom should have swallowed you
You must have cold hearted parents. Kevin O Leary's mother payed for his college education until he graduated with his MBA. That's when she declared her role as a mother to be completed.
@@jairoherrera4040 I wish I had such good parents. Anyway that's in the past, I can do my best for my children
@Shinshocks In the real world, not everyone has great parents like you.
It’s not a surprise that the parents squandered the money after hearing how they made it, if the money comes to you to easily, you will not appreciate the value of having money, and you will squander it.
The money coming to them may not have been easy but it does not change the fact of bad finances.
its not about whether you appreciate the money. its about how much financial knowledge you have. ive had friends who won the lottery and didnt blow the money up. why? cuz he's an actuary.
Our family had an occurrence about the same thing. My grandpa was extremely wealthy, and after his passing one of our relatives somehow got ahold of all the millions of dollars, and blew it all in California on beach front properties. Never gave a penny to even my grandma.
I'm wondering how buying beach front properties in California equates to "blowing it". What am I missing?
Dan
Probably not smart to put all your eggs in that basket but I have a hard time imagining that investment hasn't paid off lately.
I like the line, some people are lighthouses. Very true
Love the classic Dave Ramsey vids
Good point ...learn from dad's experience
Having money makes some people lose their mind. I plotted and planned about what I was going to if I ever had $1000. Then one day I had $1000 and was so happy that I forgot all my plans, they were replaced with what I wanted to spend it on right now.
It had the opposite effect on me. I wanted to hoard my money. Its all mine.
@@harveyallen7080 I'm with you Edward!!!!!
Dave Ramsey is such a sweet man
Thank you!
I'm dying to know what infomercial LOL
Let me know if you ever find out 😂
same
I can relate to this guy, my Dad blew close to a million and deals that could of been a lot of money, now i’m left with nothing, you just wonder how do u blow that sort of money
DatCurt why did you think you were entitled to anything? Make your own way in life.
Ramsey is right, but I do feel as though the father should feel some sort of "vague" responsibility and guilt in reference to squandering money that could have potentially helped his offsprings for GENERATIONS to come.
I agree, and no, I don't think Ramsey's right here.
@@vaska1999 You're right.
I have no idea how people blow through so much so quickly. It’s insanity.
Only someone who has never made a good chunk of money would say that. The more you have, the more you spend. Been there.
@@DevilMadeMeDoIt666 I beg your pardon - that’s a pretty stuck up thing to say to someone. That aside, what I meant was the neglect of minding one’s financial responsibilities and being frivolous.
@@ChachiTelevision1979 well, guess I was right? Did I hurt your little feelings?
@@DevilMadeMeDoIt666 No, this is just odd behavior. Is this how you usually talk to people?
@@DevilMadeMeDoIt666 Actually I was defending myself too much. You’d be right in saying I’ve never made a good chunk assuming we both know what a good chunk is. I do well enough to live well with my wife and family and we continue to work hard toward our future and expanding to grow each year.
I’m assuming you’ve made a good chunk, which is great.
I can relate. My dad used to make millions during my childhood but he blew it all, never bothered to invest. Currently struggling.
Guess he just grew up thinking college and everything was gonna be surely payed for but the man couldn't handle the instant wealth
He should’ve put it in GME😂
An example of how you can be a successful businessperson who knows nothing about wealth
Ahhh...i love that answer. Kid thought he was ballin, dave reminded him he is broke
I just want to see a list of everything he spend money on.
Would’ve been nice if the Dad or Mom had put away just 25g’s in a 529 college investment plan for their son. His college would be paid for now. I think that was what the young man was getting at. He assumed or thought that he would have some $$ for college. Just a thought.
This is legit my family....
You can use websites that will show how much certain companies were purchased for. You can easily find out who was paid what. It’s typically in the settlement unless it’s a private buyout.
Jesus Christ. My dads business is about to go big too. I'm going stay on top of him with this.
David Tanner- how’d that work out?
How is it going?
Probably didn’t blow up
@@bensimmons6149 lol
My grandfather blew through a few million of inheritance in the 70’s with gambling. It happens.
His concerns are legit, he was born with money and no financial worries, now that his parents have no money he has to work and struggle, that's hard to have nothing for someone that was born to have it all. Personally my parents were never rich but I was born having all I wanted and after the crisis and the divorce of my parents, I ended up having to work in a supermarket and cleaning toilets, honestly I learnt so much about myself than if I just kept being a spoiled brat.
how tf do u blow 15mil in a lifetime. what was the dude buying, fighter jets?
blow. he was buying blow.
People blow much more than that.
its not hard dude. plenty of celebs and athletes burn through their money and go bankrupt. google iverson bankrupt , scott storch bankrupt. scott storch was once worth 80 million dollars and he lost all his money buying cars, yatchs and drugs. some people can't live within their means
Did they invest with Madoff?
Probably had an elite lifestyle and never thought the money would run out. Probably also had lost of business investments that sank.
Also while the mother got 1 million there probably was child payments and alimony. $15 million sounds like a lot of money but it is not when there is poor finances.
I am sure millions were spent on property as well.
This episode was a real learning experience, it is what Dave talks about in his other podcasts about a behavior toward money, the man and his wife who blew the millions on god only knows what, just exhibited the very exact careless behavior that Dave has been talking about.
Bad finances is bad finances no matter how rich that person is.
Dave Ramsey does it again!👍
I have learned a lot of what not to do by watching my parents.
I had an experience many of you have: I was only 8 years old. We couldn't afford to go out to restaurants then, but about twice/year. I looked at the menu, both the food and the side where the bill was. I had a Eureka moment. I REALIZED that only I would be able to pay for myself as an adult. Nobody else would or could. It would be up to me. There would be no inheritance. I grew up in two minutes. I bet something like that happened to you too. It would be interesting to hear your story.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
People wanna be rich but cant handle the responsibilities that comes with
I had a landscaper that inherited a million dollars over fifty yrs ago when he was 21 and newly married. He told me in a year he had spent it all, but BOY did he and his wife have a great yr!
My father owns a business and he has about 9 million saved. That’s great for him but I always thought about it as that’s good for him because that money isn’t mine which some kids grow up thinking their parents money is theirs and that’s wrong. I payed my college tuition on my own. Only help I ever had from my father which we are on good terms and have a great relationship is he put my apartment under his name because my credit score wasn’t high enough but I pay for rent. Idk people should do things in the own is my opinion.
uncle dave looks blown away by all of this usuless spending
He should write a book and make some money from it
How did he not ask what his parents did? $168m in a couple months?!?!
If you listened, he said they ran an infomercial.
Travis Rugemer he said 15 mil in 15 years.
@@klauser10 15 mil 15 years ago. They made the money within a few months.
Dex4Sure true
Travis Rugemer what’s the infomercial??? Chia pets, foreman grill, snuggy???
Suprising he's not from Southern New Jersey!
NICHOLAS LANDOLINA ...what?
It’s called South Jersey. But what does this reference mean?
I've personally known at least a dozen people in my life who blew through high 6- and low 7-figure inheritances and/or overspent 6-figure incomes to end up broke at 60. In each case, it was either drugs, gambling, laziness, carelessness, or thinking that another inheritance or miracle would bail them out. In no case did they change their behavior, though. Friends, neighbors, classmates, and family that I envied in my 20s and 30s became my cautionary tales.
Damn!
sounds like a smart man--and he should never give or loan any money to his parents
They would not get a penny farthing from me.
By the way I’m not downing Dave, I love his channel and he’s very smart. I learn a lot from him, this particular call though was missed and went the wrong way. He wanted help for his family.
Sponge Bob I watched the entire thing, so maybe you rewatch it? And you pay attention.
Sponge Bob 😂😂😂
some people that are struggling wish they had 15 million dollars so they could live a better life. its crazy how people don't value money and just burn it all away . like money is nothing and easy to earn.
It’s not your money but it is a lesson.
His parents are financially irresponsible. Giving financially irresponsible people a lot of money won't fix that.
even though it's 15 years ago..but it's still crazy that he blew 15 millions in 15 years....
Dan Zhang ah like 19 or 20 years
It’s his dads money he can do what he wants with it the kid needs to make his own way good luck to him
Carve your own path. My family squandered or basically destroyed our posterity/generational wealth. The best thing you can do is wake up and realise that you having to make your own way out of life is the best thing that could ever happen to you.
You can't help someone that far gone.
Cautionary Tales are Cautionary. Learn from it, peeps!
Wow 15 million, imagine investing in Google Stock at 100 per share around "05" = 150000 + Google 2 for 1 (1 time dividend) = 300000 shares x todays price about $705 avg for G and L shares. = 211.5 million dollars :)
Johnny Gat :-)
Hindsight we're all billionaires!
Your answer was awesome , however I would like to know how he lost ,for it helps not to repeat the same mistake
If Dad is like me, he's sliding into dementia. The difference may be that I see what's happening to me and accept it. An evaluation by a clinical psychologist will tell you.
Makes me glad I didn't receive a $15 million windfall. His father clearly didn't know how to deal with it.
I would love to hear the story of how he MADE $168 million in sales and $15 million net profits. The part about blowing the money would be interesting too but the making money part would be great.
This guy needs to be an audio book voice over guy.
The thumbnail facial expressions he has always say it all. Lol
It does not matter how much money you get, money comes and goes. Right there is a learning story. Dont be attached to money because it does not belong to us. Money is a mean of safety, and buying things we need but not everything in life.
Facts 💯
Sometimes I wonder, when people like this call in, if they’re more concerned about their inheritance or the fact that they got nothing than they are about their parent...
He thought he was going to have money to blow during school and for life but that turned out not to be the case.
Privilege at its best!
15 million!!!!!!!!! Oh my that’s crazy 😭😭how do u run through that much money Jesus I would even kno what to do with half a mill for real
What infomercial?
Fist, his father made money and he lost the money he made. It is not like his father wasted the inheritance. So the kid doesn’t have anything to criticise his father. He made risky business investments and made 15 million (as per a 5 year kid as his age was 5, 15 years ago) and lost it the same way.
Accept it and move on, as Dave suggested.
Said that, talking to his father will help him to learn some lessons from his parents.
The parents (especially the dad) could have a major drug or gambling problem, so I think it's important the son asks them both, like over a cup of coffee, what's going on. Squandering $16 million away within 15 years are definitely signs that somethings aren't right.
Not everyone get a chance to become a multi millionaire.But if you get a chance, make sure your children get the best education atleast.
"My dad blew 15 million... how do I help him ?" - I think Dave answered that question. You don't. If he needed the help he would have asked along time ago.
With what I've seen of Dave, he doesn't endorse stupid and understand people can't be help when they don't want to be helped and if they want to be helped then their actions and behavior will show it, therefore, it's futile to try to help someone who isn't at least trying to help themselves get better.
Dave probably concluded his dad doesn't want to be helped and it's not the son's obligation nor responsibility nor a wise decision to help his dad when his dad has proven all these 15 years that he doesn't need anyone's help, least of all his son's. If his dad squandered 15 million dollars in 15 years then he has proven, by his own fruit, that he is not going to listen to anyone else's advice. In other words, he does not have a teachable spirit ( of course all this can change by the power of the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior).
It may be a hard pill to swallow but the boy must do so and not hinder his own progress by involving himself in something he has no control over.
Dave is probably thinking if he doesn't have control over it then it is a mute point concerning yourself with it.
Move on and focus on your own stuff unless he repents.
Anyways, those are my assumptions about Dave's attitude on the whole situation.
I think this young man will prosper and thrive well in life. He knows what not to do by his parent's bad judgements.
depending on what was left in their income, the custodial parent, he probably did not qualify for the pell grant. i hope he was able to find a way
"Oh, ok." -Dave
When you think the money will never stop coming in, it is easy to get sloppy. But while saving/investing isn't always sexy, it will leverage what you have into more, if you do it wisely. Real estate, in my book, is one of the very best ways to make more from what you have. I did that, after studying an old Carlton Sheets course a friend had but never bothered with. When he got money, I taught him about what I learned from that course, and got him investing in real estate. Well, he blew through it, took out every dime, short saled or foreclosed when the roof fell in, and is still hanging on by his fingernails on a couple of properties he stopped mortgage payments on in order to live. I was cut in for half when this all started out, and we built and sold houses until the recession. I took the money I made and put it into real estate. I am not "flush" as the money is tied up in the properties, but at least I can refinance, sell, etc. to help me when I stop working. I live frugally, and that is also a major key to paving the way for your future, which arrives sooner than you think.
Its not sloppy its criminal.
I had the same problem, my dad probably made around 50 million before i was even born, spent it all and now we're just middle class
Sorry 😔
I like how the advice is to feel bad for and go easy on the dad, but immediately cast aspersions on the mom lol
What an irony... They were too smart to earn such a large sum in such a small time.. And were too dumb to blow it all away... They deserve nothing but sympathy
Let him "swim"--that's all the "help" Dad deserves. Maybe look after his affairs/burial upon his passing, out of respect for a parent, but how is it that you would ever "owe" your elders? (65 year old man here)
Dave should have been more sympathetic. What his father did is absolutely horrible and the caller will probably need inexpensive psychotherapy to deal with this family loss. Unfortunately he will have to forge his way on his own. One of my exes became a mutli millionaire with very little help from his father - although there was some help - and when he became rich he had his father work for his company and then found out his father was stealing money from his company and then did not talk to his father after that - after of course, he fired his father - for many years - I don't know if they talked before his father's death. Then when his father died he left about a million in his will to each of his children but one child who was the executor frittered all the money away in the estate and my ex got very little money - so he is in a very expensive law suit with his sister where he is losing money and may never see his law suit pay off. So, that is his family story.
Hey, sometimes financial longevity isn’t the goal of the person. It may be to you, but not everyone. If you make $15,000,000 and spend it in 15 years, that’s how he wanted to live and it’s fine. It lasted over a decade. It’s ok for some people