Great review. I also reviewed a Cold Steel MAA messer with a Landsknecht Emporium messer, and I agree with everything you said here. Probably the most compelling offer by Cold Steel or Windlass so far. Dave Baker of Forged in Fire fame designed it, so what can you expect other than the most practical one? A steal of a sword for under 200 bucks!
There actually where grips shaped like the one on the MAA messer. The tang was still knife like but the two wood halves totally hid the tang top and bottom and where pinned together so you would see nothing but a seam between the wood halves. The MAA is not totally historically accurate but it would be enough to make me happy.
This is a great offering by cold steel. Sword enthusiasts/collectors tend to criticize them quite frequently. From my perspective, the historical accuracy is not the issue. The issue is centered around poor quality control leading to inconsistencies in build quality and heat treatment. The other major issue is poor handling characteristics when compared to historical examples. That being said, you raise an interesting point; The price and the historical inspiration. There is a lot to enjoy with this messer for the price. This model represents what I think is great about cold steel swords: accessibility into the world of functional, historical swords. I can bet many a sword snob have owned a few cold steel swords…and dare I say…..loved them!!! Cheers!
Damn rite, and on the knife side, in fixed blades you get a better buy than ANY company , the folders are not cheap, but every material is top levle, t I p notch design, a nd fit and finish AMAZING, despite what country is on the blade
My pleasure! One thing came to mind I'm curious about. When I look down the spine of mine it's dead straight, but when I look down the edge there's a little bit of warping. It doesn't seem to effect cutting performance or ease of sharpening, but it's mildly concerning to me. Is yours like that?
@@listenup455 no, mine is pretty straight. I notice some slight wavering, but nothing that bad to give me concern. I bet different examples vary though. It’s part of my general concern for cold steel swords…inconsistency and quality control. But this example is rather quite good!!
Good to know. I also have the arming sword in the MAA line and it's a solid blade albeit slightly thick behind the edge and could go for a little more distal taper. My 3rd CS sword is the Gim, which I believe is made for them by Dynasty Forge rather than Windlass, and that thing is a beauty. No secondary bevel and definitely higher levels of fit and finish.
Nice review. Love your passion, and you look like you're having a great time while you're cutting. I appreciate that you didn't include terrible stock rock inthe background like so many other reviewers do. Quick note on the MAA series; they don't do the bluing just to give them a more modern look, it actually allows them to skip over steps they take to finish their other products, this making the price cheaper. Also, the MAA versions have plastic cores vs. wooden cores on their non-MAA counterparts.
Im going to say it would give some trouble, but 100% honest, it would be worth it to heat GG hat up with a torch sn DC bend it out how you want, or even cut ti off and weld to other side, i know you wouldent want to, but if you , you would get praise and respect from anybody who knowes anything of steele, of using weapons
Hey man great video! Big fan. I have this blade and the ronin katana two handed saber also and had similar thoughts. I will say my knuckle guard snapped off during test cutting and just looks like a bad weld. Oh and I have the same America's best defense shirt! Haha was beginning to wonder if this was a video of myself!
Thanks for watching man!! I did kind of question the durability of the guard. I figured it was lightly welded. Now I know!! Do you live in Massachusetts?
@@coreycollins6703 definitely. A few years ago someone, I forget their name, did an indepth study of messers & falchions to deckvise a classification system. Apart from hilt design it turned it that of all the blade profile varieties m&f share like 90% of designs! There were few blade types exclusive to either m or f. But technically hilt construction is the key so yes cold steel actually makes falchions 😂
@@coreycollins6703 true g that's actually where I first heard about it, but didn't remember when writing my reply if it was Shadiversity or Scholagladitoria who did the vid 😂 So thanks for reminding me I may go rewatch it soon.
German person here. Last variation of the Großes Messer is the Hirschfänger, used to interwar periode. But of course, from 1870s onwards, hunting rifles had got such quality, that the ,final stab' of wounded game was rarer necessary, so the Hirschfänger became more a dressweapon.
Hey Homeboy im getting the DarkSword Knockenbecker on Sat..got it on sale its good to check the dark sword sale section. Yea i never bought any of those MAA cold steel swords some reason they sell for less then the reg models that scares me!
What’s up Ryld!! Man you are lucky!! I have had my eyes on one of those for a while. You have to let me know what you think. I’m very interested in that design. I love messers! I have a Falke on order from landsknecht emporium. It’s been on order since November!
Actually bluing is , or was a form of protection, i.d.k. if your old enough to have any blued gun or rifles, but ther re is cold blue options even in a touch up pen , by Berchwood Caseys, or any other blu brsnd
Nice review. I just bought the cold steel scimitar. It's on its way right now , being held by the "Canadian border services" for some unknown reason. I guess its a personal attack against me because a sword is completely legal to import here in Canada. I already have a few that i imported. I was about to order this cold steel messer too. But i think i'll wait till the scimitar is released by its captors first. Cheers and.... Have a nice day.
That’s really weird man!! I hope you get your sword soon. I own the cold steel scimitar as well. It’s a pretty cool piece. Will review it sometime. Thank you so much for watching! Cheers bro!
Got The Knochenbecher from DSA today yea Man its a thin blade nice two handed handle and the back side has a HUGE false edge which ik you Like..glad i grabbed that on sale..lol 100 bucks off for a minor scrach on the wood you can HARDLY see..lol!
@@mattamathics1108 its like 2.5 pounds if that the blade is very thin..i did tell them to sharpen the hell out of it..but nope it struggles to cut water bottles . there is many sharp metal parts on it that will piss me off i had to wear gloves to use it..but those are all things a grinder and saw can fix.
@@ryldauril6379 2.5 is great for a hand and a half!! Yea man…I’m not sure why companies cannot just sharpen their swords correctly. It is extremely annoying, especially when you pay over 500 for a “sharp” sword. Your not alone!
Peening the nagel through the sword, will weaken it over time. The one piece guard and nagel, is much stronger. I suggest you go to the Cold Steel website and read the one review about said messer, and where it broke, when it did break for the guy who wrote the review.
It's a Messer.... they're actually like long knives, as the original German name "Langes Messer" means long knife. This is completely expected for the blade.
Great review. I also reviewed a Cold Steel MAA messer with a Landsknecht Emporium messer, and I agree with everything you said here. Probably the most compelling offer by Cold Steel or Windlass so far. Dave Baker of Forged in Fire fame designed it, so what can you expect other than the most practical one? A steal of a sword for under 200 bucks!
Awesome man, I have to look up your review of it!
There actually where grips shaped like the one on the MAA messer. The tang was still knife like but the two wood halves totally hid the tang top and bottom and where pinned together so you would see nothing but a seam between the wood halves. The MAA is not totally historically accurate but it would be enough to make me happy.
Cold Steel in a nutshell: its 80% historically accurate and a damn good weapon for a damn good price.
This is a great offering by cold steel. Sword enthusiasts/collectors tend to criticize them quite frequently. From my perspective, the historical accuracy is not the issue. The issue is centered around poor quality control leading to inconsistencies in build quality and heat treatment. The other major issue is poor handling characteristics when compared to historical examples. That being said, you raise an interesting point; The price and the historical inspiration. There is a lot to enjoy with this messer for the price. This model represents what I think is great about cold steel swords: accessibility into the world of functional, historical swords. I can bet many a sword snob have owned a few cold steel swords…and dare I say…..loved them!!! Cheers!
Damn rite, and on the knife side, in fixed blades you get a better buy than ANY company , the folders are not cheap, but every material is top levle, t I p notch design, a nd fit and finish AMAZING, despite what country is on the blade
I sharpened the swedge on mine, great piece
Great review! I've had one of these for a few years and I think you're spot on about it.
Thanks a lot Matt! And thanks for watching!!
My pleasure! One thing came to mind I'm curious about. When I look down the spine of mine it's dead straight, but when I look down the edge there's a little bit of warping. It doesn't seem to effect cutting performance or ease of sharpening, but it's mildly concerning to me. Is yours like that?
@@listenup455 no, mine is pretty straight. I notice some slight wavering, but nothing that bad to give me concern. I bet different examples vary though. It’s part of my general concern for cold steel swords…inconsistency and quality control. But this example is rather quite good!!
Good to know. I also have the arming sword in the MAA line and it's a solid blade albeit slightly thick behind the edge and could go for a little more distal taper. My 3rd CS sword is the Gim, which I believe is made for them by Dynasty Forge rather than Windlass, and that thing is a beauty. No secondary bevel and definitely higher levels of fit and finish.
Nice review. Love your passion, and you look like you're having a great time while you're cutting. I appreciate that you didn't include terrible stock rock inthe background like so many other reviewers do.
Quick note on the MAA series; they don't do the bluing just to give them a more modern look, it actually allows them to skip over steps they take to finish their other products, this making the price cheaper. Also, the MAA versions have plastic cores vs. wooden cores on their non-MAA counterparts.
Good review dude. Covered all the bases and there were some nice cuts in there. Especially with an unwieldy cold steel/windlass blade. Very well done.
Thanks a lot man!! And thank you so much for watching!
@@mattamathics1108 welcome
That was a fantastic review! Well done!
I prefer a full tang. like the Gustav Messer. Because a Messer, is a knife after all.
Not blued, that is some what of a new technique. Browning would have been what might have been done.
Great review. Can you hold this sword with left hand? I wonder if that clam shell hand protection will be in a way for left hand.
Im going to say it would give some trouble, but 100% honest, it would be worth it to heat GG hat up with a torch sn DC bend it out how you want, or even cut ti off and weld to other side, i know you wouldent want to, but if you , you would get praise and respect from anybody who knowes anything of steele, of using weapons
I was curious about this one. Good review!
Thanks a lot man!! And thanks for watching!
Hey man great video! Big fan. I have this blade and the ronin katana two handed saber also and had similar thoughts. I will say my knuckle guard snapped off during test cutting and just looks like a bad weld. Oh and I have the same America's best defense shirt! Haha was beginning to wonder if this was a video of myself!
Thanks for watching man!! I did kind of question the durability of the guard. I figured it was lightly welded. Now I know!! Do you live in Massachusetts?
Do you happen to have a 19`7 cutlass by cold steel? how would this compare? thanks
Cold Steel should call it a falchion...
But messers were more popular in HEMA when it premiered so guess sell what sells?
Definitely more like a falchion. Fun fact; the term falchion is used frequently in The art of swordsmanship.
@@coreycollins6703 definitely. A few years ago someone, I forget their name, did an indepth study of messers & falchions to deckvise a classification system. Apart from hilt design it turned it that of all the blade profile varieties m&f share like 90% of designs!
There were few blade types exclusive to either m or f.
But technically hilt construction is the key so yes cold steel actually makes falchions 😂
@@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 shadiversity did a 4 or 5 part series on his RUclips channel
@@coreycollins6703 true g that's actually where I first heard about it, but didn't remember when writing my reply if it was Shadiversity or Scholagladitoria who did the vid 😂
So thanks for reminding me I may go rewatch it soon.
German person here. Last variation of the Großes Messer is the Hirschfänger, used to interwar periode. But of course, from 1870s onwards, hunting rifles had got such quality, that the ,final stab' of wounded game was rarer necessary, so the Hirschfänger became more a dressweapon.
How is the sword holding up? Any problems,observations etc?
Great review! The sword actually looks really cool 😂🔥👌🏼
Nice review- very impressive considering the cost of the sword. Good job.
Thank you so much!! And thanks for watching!!
Hey Homeboy im getting the DarkSword Knockenbecker on Sat..got it on sale its good to check the dark sword sale section. Yea i never bought any of those MAA cold steel swords some reason they sell for less then the reg models that scares me!
What’s up Ryld!! Man you are lucky!! I have had my eyes on one of those for a while. You have to let me know what you think. I’m very interested in that design. I love messers! I have a Falke on order from landsknecht emporium. It’s been on order since November!
Actually, it’s been on order since early October
Did the bluing scratch with the cutting? I feel like the scratches would be more apparent on that finish.
Actually bluing is , or was a form of protection, i.d.k. if your old enough to have any blued gun or rifles, but ther re is cold blue options even in a touch up pen , by Berchwood Caseys, or any other blu brsnd
Nice review. I just bought the cold steel scimitar. It's on its way right now , being held by the "Canadian border services" for some unknown reason. I guess its a personal attack against me because a sword is completely legal to import here in Canada. I already have a few that i imported. I was about to order this cold steel messer too. But i think i'll wait till the scimitar is released by its captors first. Cheers and.... Have a nice day.
That’s really weird man!! I hope you get your sword soon. I own the cold steel scimitar as well. It’s a pretty cool piece. Will review it sometime. Thank you so much for watching! Cheers bro!
Got The Knochenbecher from DSA today yea Man its a thin blade nice two handed handle and the back side has a HUGE false edge which ik you Like..glad i grabbed that on sale..lol 100 bucks off for a minor scrach on the wood you can HARDLY see..lol!
What a great deal!!! Is it heavy? Have you weighed it?
@@mattamathics1108 its like 2.5 pounds if that the blade is very thin..i did tell them to sharpen the hell out of it..but nope it struggles to cut water bottles . there is many sharp metal parts on it that will piss me off i had to wear gloves to use it..but those are all things a grinder and saw can fix.
@@ryldauril6379 2.5 is great for a hand and a half!! Yea man…I’m not sure why companies cannot just sharpen their swords correctly. It is extremely annoying, especially when you pay over 500 for a “sharp” sword. Your not alone!
Peening the nagel through the sword, will weaken it over time. The one piece guard and nagel, is much stronger. I suggest you go to the Cold Steel website and read the one review about said messer, and where it broke, when it did break for the guy who wrote the review.
…good review but why did you destroy this young tree? Very short-sighted...
In the future that tree grows up to become Tree Hitler.
Our guy here saved the future.
Any left handed people here? How is this to wear with the guard on the wrong side for us lefties? 😂.
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Blade IS very tiny.This IS NOT good.For my ,of course.I have Many Cold Steel swords,but this IS letdown.
It's a Messer.... they're actually like long knives, as the original German name "Langes Messer" means long knife. This is completely expected for the blade.
Then get their Grosse Messer...
@@FrankEgyed Yes.Grosse messer will by right.Thanks!
It's supposed to be light and nimble, and it is. Great balance. Unless you're chopping wood or something this is what you want. Try it out