The game that inspired Halo is BACK! Make sure you watch the video all the way through before giving your thoughts, I may be able to quell some worries people have about the way Bungie will tell Marathon's story in an Extraction Shooter format :)
I just don't see how you could justify this game being marathon in name only. It's just a lazy copy of a game that's popular right now and are just using for Nostalgia purposes.
I don’t mind extraction shooters, but looking at the art style it feels like something completely different. A marathon reboot I hoped would bring over that aesthetic. Edit I assumed it was a reboot but it’s not so my criticism is more damning
Yeah, definitely agree. I actually like the aesthetic quite a bit, it just looks nothing like Marathon. Funnily enough the sound/audio design in the trailer felt VERY Marathon, it just didn't look it
@@HiddenXperia I don’t really know what I’d call it. I guess it’s that Apple Store sleek sci-fi that just ain’t my vibe. Atm gameplay and if it’s not my thing either lore will be what I’ll be focusing on
As an old school Seventh Columnist, I am very excited for this, though the complete lack of single player is putting a bit of a damper on that excitement.
Be nice if they do add a single player mode maybe a remaster of the original campaign but with newer graphic and slight changes( because some of it was used in halo )
@@The_Ragequit_Cannon your comment doesnt make any sense, and he said and i quote "add a singleplayer mode, maybe a remaster of the original.." and again my comment applies to this message perfectly because its stupid
It’s so cool seeing destiny and halo players collaborating on figuring out this arg. They’ve figured out the part that gave us the ViDoc and have compiled a bunch of lore and dialogue from various companies but I believe there’s still more left to go.
Feels like you manifested this game with your recent interest into extraction shooter content! Seems perfect for you and your channel very exited for you dude
Would absolutely love to see Marathon lore videos from you in the future! I know very little about its story, but the aesthetics of the game and the perception I'm getting of the game's atmosphere (and also knowing how much of Halo is inspired by it) is making me very excited at the prospect of getting some classic, iconic HiddenXperia-style lore videos covering the series.
You bring up a good point. If this game does have monetization on character appearance, then this game is dead on arrival. The whole point of extraction shooters/games is to progressively change the way your character looks and how powerful they are along with the risk of having everything taken away, that's on the body, when killed. What motivation will anyone have to play an extraction game if you can just buy your way into looking cool? All the risk is gone if your $20 skin will always be with you; that's more valuable than anything else you could scrounge in the map. Maybe they'll focus more on the exploration of the map to unlock further aspects of the world, but that's side content.
The premise of the games characters is being able to inhabit different cybernetic bodies, like classes or heros, skins suit that type of gameplay really well I kind of doubt that there will be something like in depth armour moreso just obtaining different bodies and maybe upgrades since Bungie usually refine things down and it clearly isn't a hardcore game
@@frankwainwright7826 That's what all these guys missing, tarkov is milsim, but marathon is clearly an arcade shooter in nature, I think it will incorporate more of hero shooter mechanics, where abilities would probably be linked to different augmentatios, and with cod/bf weapon customisation
@@frankwainwright7826 Then I truly fail to understand the point of making it an extraction shooter. The point is that you start with NOTHING and progressively gamble your way into becoming more powerful, based on skill. If it's just a numbers game, I can't see this landing. Monetizing appearance is the best way to invalidate someone's work in this type of game. This type of thing doesn't matter for most other games, like Destiny, because loot doesn't actually reflect how powerful you are. When you can upgrade pieces of armor, they all suddenly become the same. Other games, like MMOs have transmog bc the visualization of loot (and the actual loot) is again irrelevant to how the game is played. For extraction shooters, your appearance is directly correlated to how powerful you are. Being on an even playing field is NOT in the DNA for this genre. It's a shame these big companies haven't figured out a better way to take our money.
Don’t know how such a big halo nerd misses one of the most basic things, but a good video regardless. I’m not a fan of extraction shooters, but I mean, it’s bungie. It’s gonna be awesome
Yeah my b, ships have never been my forte in Halo nor have they ever really interested me so ship classifications aren't something I'm particularly knowledgeable about lmao
Love the idea of you and Byf getting together on lore! Two of my favorite lore channels colliding on a new Bungie game sounds like a dream. Also, I would absolutely love for you to cover this game on the channel!
@@icecoldfire25 I love Myelin too! Byf has that smooth story telling voice and his use of music is nice. Myelin has a great way of making you feel like you’re best friends chatting about something. They aren’t really comparable to me.
I am actually very skeptical for this new Marathon game because, aside from its art style being nothing like the original Marathon games, it's a Multiplayer PvP Extraction Shooter. This worries me a lot because not only was Marathon a single player oriented franchise (in fact it was basically a game akin to Doom [or a "Doom clone" if you will] for the Mac, a good one no less), but also this means it will very likely be one of those Multiplayer Live Service Games for PlayStation, which means a lot of microtransactions, and that concerns me. Extraction Shooters are a good genre to dive into and make games for... but I am not thrilled of doing it in a single player oriented IP that has not seen any new entries in 2 decades. I think Bungie should experiment with Marathon *after* Marathon have had a proper new entry. I prefer Marathon to have a revival akin to Doom where Doom (2016) did everything to stay true to the original Doom games but modernized the formula enough to bring it to new audiences. If this new Marathon at least had a proper single player campaign alongside the Multiplayer Extraction Shooter mode, then I'd be more excited than skeptical.
@@Rid_Of_Thee If you mean Marathon came first before Doom, that's wrong. Doom was released in December 10, 1993 on MS-DOS, while Marathon released in December 21, 1994 on Mac. Doom already had ports for the Sega 32x and Atari Jaguar in November 1994, heck Doom arrived first to the Mac on November 4, 1994, one month before Marathon even showed up on Mac.
@@generalcjg my mistake. I got the dates mixed up. Still, I'd hardly call it a clone. Maybe in gameplay, but that's like calling battlefield a cod clone because of the gubplay mechanics are similar (maybe not a perfect analogy, but I'm sure you see my point).
@@Rid_Of_Thee Well, when I said *Doom clone* I didn't exactly mean Marathon was a beat to beat clone of Doom that replicated exactly everything the 1993 game did. It was more of me referencing what FPSs were labeled as back then (as "Doom clones") because of how similar they were since they all borrowed plenty from Doom due to what that game brought to the entire FPS genre (namely the gunplay, level design, and 2D sprite visual design was what most FPSs back then took from Doom), with several of these "Doom clones" having their unique features that made them standout from the rest (like Duke Nukem 3D's protagonist and mature humor for example). It took till 1996 with the release of Quake 1 for the FPS genre to stop using the term "Doom clone" since 3D FPSs were starting to be a lot more unique and diverse versus the 2D sprite based FPSs of the early 90s.
It's literally just Marathon in name. Art style is completely different, no campaign, just PVP extraction battle pass BS. Edit: watched all the way through as requested, still not impressed, I'm an original Marathon fan and this just isn't doing it for me.
@@benclark4823, it’s got plenty of lore, the problem is they decided not to work on anything other than PVP, sadly this is how the world of videogames are, I love Bungie, but they’re probably gonna screw the pooch, I doubt many of us want a PVP Marathon. I personally am very sick of PvP, played it for 20 years, it’s boring.
The halo lore is way too messed up at this point to resolve any issues and move forward in story without conflicting lore. I mean my god the amount of retcons over retcons 343 have done to Bungie games and their own kinda just broke the universe to be unworkable.
In terms of the aesthetics I feel like it will be similar to Neil Blompkifs movies( District 9, Elysium, Chappie) where it will have a juxtaposition of these advanced societies upper echelon using clean and powerful tech but the environment will show the grunge and degradation that has been caused by this conflict.
That's a very good pick for a comparison. Nice to read after so many people saying it looks like "boring fortnite stuff," for some reason. Knowing their work in Destiny, I'd place bets on a lot of designs being done by Dima Goryainov. If you look at their work for destiny i feel like my assumption will make sense.
Very intelligent comment tbh i was thinking how they would explain the style shift or just ignore it for sake of the "reboot" but this would be a satisfying answer imo
now this was the type of comment that i was looking for it makes sense for some runners to have advanced sleek weapons while others to have more gritty weapons and design it also shows in the concept art seeing the mixture of sleek and gritty design
@jaroramirez "pvp series" That's gotta to be dumbest take I've ever seen.I get that Bungie wants to take a different route for money or otherwise, but Marathon IS LITERALLY ABOUT THE OVERCOMPLICATED STORY Marathon Infinity has "canonical" explation for it's Forge mode with all the alternative universe/4thwall breaking bs.The trilogy was all Campaign focused. The M1 game only had only one pvp mode. You're telling it all the effort went into that? Gtfo. It's sad that they will probably only do terminals instead of translating the story into a modern medium.Minimal viable product as always, that is the modern-day Motto of Bungie.
its crazy that Marathon is back (to a degree) I am so hyped for it as I love extraction survival shooters, and I am addicted to Bungie's games. I do however, feel for the few hardcore fans of the original Marathon games... they've been wanting something akin to a Doom 2016 reboot for decades now, and it will likely never happen for them unfortunately... Also, with how Bungie monetizes games now, I am worried about how Marathon will be monetized.
The terminals in Halo 3 were my first exposure to environmental and secret storytelling. I've also participated in every Destiny 2 ARG and secret community quest. Bungie has people that absolutely know how to do community puzzles very well so I have no doubt this is going to be their absolute best playground for these kinds of events. Whats even more clever is that this style encourages a higher degree of community engagement and socializing (something that was never really tapped into as deeply back in the old days before social media). If the shared world is affected by the decisions of its players, then this could have potential to be the truest player-driven narrative in gaming.
How insane would it be if Marathon became successful and your channel transitioned into a Marathon channel and thrived. That would be so cool and appropriate for your career man.
That would be assuming Bungie took the lore seriously unlike Destiny. Bungie follow the storytelling method of JJ Abrams. They use the "Mystery Box," they set up a really cool premise with little to no answers, but don't really have an idea on how they're gonna answer it. Remember how cool the Grimoire cards were?
@@EthanRom I think the problem lies less in bungie's writers competence and more in management. Destiny clearly makes campaigns too wide-audiencish, with overabundance of epicness and dumb humor, because that's what they're selling to most of the people in expansions. And lore needs to adapt to those campaigns, therefore making all the stupid incoherence in the story. Since Marathon main selling point and gameplay draw will clearly be pvp aspect, bungie could make the lore and story suit their intentions, and not what sells best.
My issue, and it's a gamebreaking one, is that it won't have a single player campaign. I simply don't touch PvP as a whole. In any capacity. If it's exclusively an extraction shooter, I have zero interest in it. Watching the trailer isn't going to change my mind.
I just watched the ad for Marathon on RUclips and halfway through I got the notification for your video. I'm so stoked for this and it caught me very pleasantly off guard.
extraction games are looking to be the new popular trend of game after battle royales, and live service games are nearly impossible to make successful now and bungie has one of the most successful games in the looter shooter genre.
After watching the behind the scenes interview, the community feeling they want to make seems absolutely amazing. they talked about a global leader board, having your name showed off because YOU were the one to open up a new area for EVERYONE else, helping other players, flexing your power over other players. One big gripe I have with extraction shooters is how they are shoot on sight if they don't have an honour system. whether they do a similar system to tarkov's scavs, or the division's rogue system, they should definitely address the shoot on sight mindset. I loved in the division banding together with other players to take down a group of rogues, the occasional backstab, and getting to know what players were like after seeing them multiple times. A nice system I can think of is you're a green player if you haven't killed anyone in the past 30 raids, orange if you have, and red if it was recent. A reputation system would easily fit into this imo, and would make it much easier for new players to get into and to daily the game without it ripping you apart.
I’m very mixed on how I feel about this game. I’ve always been interested in the Marathon story and lore but never got the chance to experience it so this might be really cool. However I’m not too big on multiplayer only games any more due to the state of the industry and MTX. If the game doesn’t get success it could end up dead in the water because of no PvE elements. I also haven’t had too much experience with extraction shooters either besides Hunt Showdown and Cod DMZ if that even counts. Hunt is great and I’ve never played Tarkov but the genre is definitely good if done well (unlike DMZ imo). I think I’ll have to see gameplay and try it out before having a solid opinion but I’m optimistic. I would really like to see lore collabs with Byf! Please make it happen!!
Would have liked to see the dark gritty aesthetic that Marathon had, especially after Bungie dropped Destiny 1's dark atmosphere for the brighter fun time that Destiny 2 has. You're very right on extraction shooters not catering to cosmetic microtransactions. A huge red flag I see with this game is its funded by Tencent, where microtransactions will be the focus and and in Destiny every piece of gear almost can be changed into another gears appearance, something they could carry over into Marathon. Tencent is involved with Activision, so if they have influence which of course they would this may resemble CODs DMZ more than the classic Tarkov.
@@TheAHuman True, however investors clearly push for certain aspects to dominate games they invest in and Tencent loves microtransactions and they now invest in both Bungie and Activision games.
I'm inexplicably hyped for this game. I was born in 1995 so i never played marathon. I also didnt get into Marathon's story until the durandal references from that little comic that shows cortana accessing the domain. Damn. I hope it's good.
It visually looks nothing whatsoever like Marathon. It has no story or single player campaign and its a live service PVP extraction shooter. No one asked for this.
This honestly just feels like something completely new wearing the skin of marathon and I can’t say I’m optimistic. The vibes I’m getting from this is like when Treyarch forwent a campaign entirely in Black Ops 4 because of how popular battle royale was at the time, and we all saw how well that worked out for them. This feels like bungie hopping on the extraction shooter bandwagon and defiling the grave of a long dead IP to do so
Not a Marathon fan, but my friend, resident boomer shooter enjoyer and the person who got me into Halo, is! Not seen his reaction yet but I can imagine he's at least intrigued to an extent as to what this game will entail!
Honestly, I don't have a lot of faith that Bungie isn't going to find some way to screw up either the monetization, gameplay, or story, or some combination of the three And if it ends up being live service, then you just know they're gonna operate with the mindset Bungie already said they follow which can be summed up as "just shit out content and fix it later"
@@TheAHuman You mean always screwing up gameplay. They were having trouble even with Halo CE. Whether it be a big or small issue, something has always gone wrong
I'm all about you covering this because it is so clearly up your alley. Subscribed for the Halo lore, but now here for your journey as well, you likable so-and-so.
Most of Destiny PvP players are angry because Bungie is making just enough work on Destiny PvP to not let this game mode die since 4 years because their whole PvP team is on Marathon dev. I can't disagree with them. Let a whole part of a game dying because you want to make something else. This move kinda suck considering many player love Destiny PvP. Remind me Blizzard Overwatch PvE move
Honestly it’s more of the fact that Bungie is having dedicated servers for Marathon. Meanwhile the Destiny community has been asking for that for years.
8:10 i assume they just dont want the game to look and envoke Halo or Destiny in anyway. Especially with how Halos aesthetic was so inpired by Marathon
@@IwinMahWay yeah that’s something that stood out to me. At first I was like woah this looks completely different. But I actually really dig it and to be honest while it might not be the craziest shit ever, I think its so cool Bungie created three different scifi universes that have completely different vibes and aesthetics which obviously wouldn’t be as noticeable if marathon had the older style. Halo (and og marathon too) have a an almost grounded scifi military look to everything with some of the more fantastical things being from the forerunners and covenant and even then it’s still a bit grounded. Destiny has a scifi fantasy thing going on which obviously looks completely different from halo. It literally looks like what would happen if you took a fantasy setting with all the medieval stuff and just placed it far into the future. And then new marathon has again a completely different aesthetic from the other 2 with the whole cyberpunk-ish designs
I really hope the game has different modes. I'm not one for PvP games, I do play some but I much prefer single player/co-op games, and a Risk Of Rain kinda thing would be really cool
I am super hyped to see Marathon revisited, but I am a tiny bit let down it is an extraction shooter. It's just not my cup of tea, but I will be trying it out. As for art direction, I feel like they're wanting to really swing with a super hyper distinct look. Not many games are that clean vibrant sci-fi look. As well as knowing bungie, I feel the dark grungy style will be hidden under the surface.
We’ve know for six months from Sean W, but I’m pretty stoked for this game. Could just be the trailer music, bugle knows how to hype you with the tunes.
It’s definitely piqued my interest as a long time Halo fan and BR fan. Haven’t tried any extraction shooters yet, but will be keeping up to date with your videos on marathon!
As someone who has played Destiny since 2014, and has seen what Bungie has been up to, I can only hope this game is a success. Not because I am a huge Marathon or extraction shooter fan, but because, at least, 75% of the Destiny dev team was either pulled or left to work on this game. So I am rooting for it simply in hopes that, one day, maybe Destiny can see a return to form.
I am BEYOND STOKED because I am a fan of the old Marathon trilogy made by Bungie back in the 90s, which was an amazing FPS for its time, and was the first to add duel wielding guns, and the ability to really look around in any direction. Love the enthusiasm!
Slight correction. The security officer in Marathon isn't wearing Mjolnir Mark IV armor, he is a Mjolnir Mark IV cyborg. Which means he's a dead man brought back to life without his consent in order fight humanity's battles. He's basically the Robocop version of a Spartan.
I cannot help but feel trepidation at the idea of a new installment of Marathon, after all this time, being another iteration of the current gaming trend. The aesthetics made me heavily skeptical when I saw the trailer, and when I heard it was PvP only my anticipation sank like a lead balloon. I have all but written it off in my mind at this point. If it turns out to be good I can always come back and enjoy it. If it is as bad as I fear, no skin off my nose. I think it is the only winning move on my part.
I feel suspicious and honestly feel like it's a missed opportunity. I'm really into single player games, especially retro shooters, and seeing a series like Marathon go the extraction shooter route feels like Halo 4 all over again, chasing a trend that it never needed to in the first place. I guess time will tell, but it just feels really off in so many areas to me.
The difference there is that Halo 4 still had a campaign. A campaign with a similar format to the prior Halo games, that you can play 10, 20, or even more years later. Even its multiplayer wasn't *that* far off the mark in comparison to other multiplayer FPS experiences. Even without MCC preserving the game, you can still experience Halo 4. Marathon being a (presumably live-service) PVP-only extraction shooter means that it will die eventually. In 10, 20, or more years, all of the content will be lost and all of the effort will be for nothing.
I just started playing Marathon and have been enjoying it a lot. I've actually been porting Marathon (the first level) to Halo 3: ODST as well! Marathon actually is really fun. Glad to see them reviving it.
Bungie started as a Mac first/only company that aggressively pushed to show the Mac platform could be a competitor to the PC game market at that time. They invented the “wasd+mouse” control scheme. Marathon was the first FPS that was 3D rather than 2.5D (flat map with a ceiling). They used the terminals to make cutscenes a choice rather than a forced interaction that severed the fantasy of being “in” the world. I’ll be glad to see them come back to this game that I spent as much time in as you have Tarkov!
Hey HiddenX, this is random but I am a student in recording arts and I really like your mic setup. What kind of audio interface are you using? Really good video BTW, I need to brush up on Marathon lore. I will definitely tune in for that Marathon content as well.
I hope Marathon brings me back to enjoying Bungie games again. A lot of pvp games have been lacking for me as of late. Let's hope Bungies take on extraction shooters is interesting. Since this game will most likely be a live service, they could eventually add in a 4v4 type pvp gamemode. Apex did something like that so I wouldn't be surprised
You bring up a great point that I hadn't thought of. Marathon was always told in terminals and they could easily do the same here and in some really interesting interactive ways the originals couldn't. That being said, who knows if they'll actually do that, and I know fans probably wanted something more substantial and actually had some voice lines lol
Bungie are coming for all their old Halo fans since we've been let down so much by Microsoft and 343. I really think that is their intention for sure. Easy marketing
This looks interesting. Love the style, and extraction shooters are a recent trend I actually kinda like. I don't know much about marathon though, and I imagine if I did it would probably be frustrating just how different it'll be. Maybe they should have given it a new name, but I don't know enough to make that judgment
this goes for mister Xperia but yall should check out the playthroughs of the marathon series mandalore gaming has done he also has links to ancient websites trying to catalog Marathon lore some of which are still getting updated.
I'm kinda hoping for a more Hunt: Showdown approach to Marathon. I love Tarkov, but it's got such a steep learning curve. I think it's important that Bungie keep it streamlined and accessible while keeping it high stakes.
I know a ton about both’s lore but I feel like I’ll get a little upset over how much they could have to retcon in the new marathon series to avoid legal troubles. 1 thing I can say that sticks out to me at this point is the Cortana letters the canon status for both franchises will be almost identical to each.
the Destiny Lore Daddy and the Halo Lore Uncle doing a collab for the franchise that kinda started it all (it'll all eventually wind back into the Paths of Darkness and its many Myths). talk about hype!
I'm very excited to try out this new marathon. I've recently been getting into HUNT: showdown, and it's been a lot of fun. I really am looking forward to hear you break down the lore as well!
More concerned on if Microsoft will care or not. Given many aspects from marathon and the sort are names and such in the Halo franchise so I'd assume bungie would change them. But then they may just ignore it.
Marathon as an IP has existed longer than Halo has. Also, Halo has names and aspects from Marathon, not the other way around. I guess its a legal grey area I suppose. If anything, 343 will downplay the aspects of Halo that are references to Marathon. They already have been since they took over. I mean, the original Reclaimer symbol was the literal Marathon logo Not that it matters since Halo is been put through a wood chipper by 343 anyways Tbh I didn’t even think they would even have the rights to Marathon after the MS acquisition to get Halo, but im sure Bungie and MS lawyers had all that hashed out
Thank you for telling all those people that Bungie is not the Bungie we know from the Halo era. A lot of "fans" don't get it or believe this and keep saying "OH Give Halo back to Bungie!" ehm... no.... I am kinda interessted and also not..... I don't like Extraction shooters and would like to have a Singleplayer Coop Campaign over a PVP Extraction only shooter. But the artstyle is kinda interessting and well I bet the gunplay will be great. The one thing Bungie always did right was the gunplay Let's wait and see how the game turns out
The game that inspired Halo is BACK! Make sure you watch the video all the way through before giving your thoughts, I may be able to quell some worries people have about the way Bungie will tell Marathon's story in an Extraction Shooter format :)
U are awesome
After destiny I’ve moved past bungie. They are a shadow or their former selves
I just don't see how you could justify this game being marathon in name only. It's just a lazy copy of a game that's popular right now and are just using for Nostalgia purposes.
Lol your views are low and your channel is failing
@@mariobadia4553 nostalgia cash grab unless it proves to be something good and not be greedy as fuck with micro transactions
This feels like step family no one knows showing up to the grave for a random summoning of the long deceased
LMAO
i feel like "distant cousin" isn't right. i feel like Marathon is literally just "cousin". they are very close in "DNA" if that makes sense.
@@mongrel_97 they're not cousin
Marathon is the dad. Myth is the mom. Pathways into darkness is grand dad.
@@mongrel_97 I was referring to Bungie, but fair
Only for it to turn out to be somebody completely different
I don’t mind extraction shooters, but looking at the art style it feels like something completely different. A marathon reboot I hoped would bring over that aesthetic.
Edit I assumed it was a reboot but it’s not so my criticism is more damning
Yeah, definitely agree. I actually like the aesthetic quite a bit, it just looks nothing like Marathon. Funnily enough the sound/audio design in the trailer felt VERY Marathon, it just didn't look it
@@HiddenXperia I don’t really know what I’d call it. I guess it’s that Apple Store sleek sci-fi that just ain’t my vibe. Atm gameplay and if it’s not my thing either lore will be what I’ll be focusing on
@@HiddenXperia Will You Remake Your Flood Lore Videos?????????????
@@Zimzilla99 Google 'Designer's Republic'. Bungie is clearly heavily inspired by it in their design.
Ah the designers of WipeOut’s aesthetic, knew it seemed familiar. It’s like DesignersRepublic meets Mirrors Edge
As an old school Seventh Columnist, I am very excited for this, though the complete lack of single player is putting a bit of a damper on that excitement.
Be nice if they do add a single player mode maybe a remaster of the original campaign but with newer graphic and slight changes( because some of it was used in halo )
@@silverbloodborne9495 your dreaming if you think singleplayer is in a game like this
@@w0rkhop555 You're dreaming if you think that that's what he said
@@The_Ragequit_Cannon your comment doesnt make any sense, and he said and i quote "add a singleplayer mode, maybe a remaster of the original.." and again my comment applies to this message perfectly because its stupid
It’s so cool seeing destiny and halo players collaborating on figuring out this arg. They’ve figured out the part that gave us the ViDoc and have compiled a bunch of lore and dialogue from various companies but I believe there’s still more left to go.
Well a lot of Destiny's player base started off as Halo fans.
@@TheZamaron sure but I do think the destiny communities secret hunters have become much bigger and independent of the halo fans for a long time now.
@@TheZamaron as a halo fan nah
@@TheZamaron destiny is much more successful than halo is these days
@@SulphurBorne Sadly true.
Feels like you manifested this game with your recent interest into extraction shooter content! Seems perfect for you and your channel very exited for you dude
Certainly kinda feels like it! MY 1000+ HOURS IN TARKOV ACTUALLY MEAN SOMETHING NOW
Would absolutely love to see Marathon lore videos from you in the future! I know very little about its story, but the aesthetics of the game and the perception I'm getting of the game's atmosphere (and also knowing how much of Halo is inspired by it) is making me very excited at the prospect of getting some classic, iconic HiddenXperia-style lore videos covering the series.
this!!
Ive heard Marathon lore is nuts
Especially the connection to Halo
You bring up a good point. If this game does have monetization on character appearance, then this game is dead on arrival. The whole point of extraction shooters/games is to progressively change the way your character looks and how powerful they are along with the risk of having everything taken away, that's on the body, when killed. What motivation will anyone have to play an extraction game if you can just buy your way into looking cool? All the risk is gone if your $20 skin will always be with you; that's more valuable than anything else you could scrounge in the map. Maybe they'll focus more on the exploration of the map to unlock further aspects of the world, but that's side content.
The premise of the games characters is being able to inhabit different cybernetic bodies, like classes or heros, skins suit that type of gameplay really well I kind of doubt that there will be something like in depth armour moreso just obtaining different bodies and maybe upgrades since Bungie usually refine things down and it clearly isn't a hardcore game
@@frankwainwright7826 That's what all these guys missing, tarkov is milsim, but marathon is clearly an arcade shooter in nature, I think it will incorporate more of hero shooter mechanics, where abilities would probably be linked to different augmentatios, and with cod/bf weapon customisation
@@PeachDragon_ okay grandpa
@@PeachDragon_ Then why isn't Destiny dead? Being old is irrelevant.
@@frankwainwright7826 Then I truly fail to understand the point of making it an extraction shooter. The point is that you start with NOTHING and progressively gamble your way into becoming more powerful, based on skill. If it's just a numbers game, I can't see this landing. Monetizing appearance is the best way to invalidate someone's work in this type of game.
This type of thing doesn't matter for most other games, like Destiny, because loot doesn't actually reflect how powerful you are. When you can upgrade pieces of armor, they all suddenly become the same. Other games, like MMOs have transmog bc the visualization of loot (and the actual loot) is again irrelevant to how the game is played.
For extraction shooters, your appearance is directly correlated to how powerful you are. Being on an even playing field is NOT in the DNA for this genre. It's a shame these big companies haven't figured out a better way to take our money.
TBH I was losing my shit over the trailer but the INSTANT I saw it was a pvp extraction shooter my interest flatlined.
Slight error but since I’m a ship nerd the Marathon class Cruisers are in Halo 2. The Pillar of Autumn was a Halcyon class Cruiser
Don’t know how such a big halo nerd misses one of the most basic things, but a good video regardless. I’m not a fan of extraction shooters, but I mean, it’s bungie. It’s gonna be awesome
Yeah my b, ships have never been my forte in Halo nor have they ever really interested me so ship classifications aren't something I'm particularly knowledgeable about lmao
I was wondering about that.
@@owenlagger passive aggressive much ? Relax it’s not that serious lol
@@ramrod1290 Yeah didn't realize how mean it could be interpreted. Inflection is lost in text
Love the idea of you and Byf getting together on lore! Two of my favorite lore channels colliding on a new Bungie game sounds like a dream. Also, I would absolutely love for you to cover this game on the channel!
Byf is lame. Myelin games would be a better choice
@@icecoldfire25 I love Myelin too! Byf has that smooth story telling voice and his use of music is nice. Myelin has a great way of making you feel like you’re best friends chatting about something. They aren’t really comparable to me.
@@ABluBRZ nah byf sucks, hes a massive egotist
I am actually very skeptical for this new Marathon game because, aside from its art style being nothing like the original Marathon games, it's a Multiplayer PvP Extraction Shooter. This worries me a lot because not only was Marathon a single player oriented franchise (in fact it was basically a game akin to Doom [or a "Doom clone" if you will] for the Mac, a good one no less), but also this means it will very likely be one of those Multiplayer Live Service Games for PlayStation, which means a lot of microtransactions, and that concerns me.
Extraction Shooters are a good genre to dive into and make games for... but I am not thrilled of doing it in a single player oriented IP that has not seen any new entries in 2 decades. I think Bungie should experiment with Marathon *after* Marathon have had a proper new entry. I prefer Marathon to have a revival akin to Doom where Doom (2016) did everything to stay true to the original Doom games but modernized the formula enough to bring it to new audiences.
If this new Marathon at least had a proper single player campaign alongside the Multiplayer Extraction Shooter mode, then I'd be more excited than skeptical.
You have the exact idea that I thought of
Marathon came first. Other way around
@@Rid_Of_Thee If you mean Marathon came first before Doom, that's wrong. Doom was released in December 10, 1993 on MS-DOS, while Marathon released in December 21, 1994 on Mac. Doom already had ports for the Sega 32x and Atari Jaguar in November 1994, heck Doom arrived first to the Mac on November 4, 1994, one month before Marathon even showed up on Mac.
@@generalcjg my mistake. I got the dates mixed up. Still, I'd hardly call it a clone. Maybe in gameplay, but that's like calling battlefield a cod clone because of the gubplay mechanics are similar (maybe not a perfect analogy, but I'm sure you see my point).
@@Rid_Of_Thee Well, when I said *Doom clone* I didn't exactly mean Marathon was a beat to beat clone of Doom that replicated exactly everything the 1993 game did. It was more of me referencing what FPSs were labeled as back then (as "Doom clones") because of how similar they were since they all borrowed plenty from Doom due to what that game brought to the entire FPS genre (namely the gunplay, level design, and 2D sprite visual design was what most FPSs back then took from Doom), with several of these "Doom clones" having their unique features that made them standout from the rest (like Duke Nukem 3D's protagonist and mature humor for example).
It took till 1996 with the release of Quake 1 for the FPS genre to stop using the term "Doom clone" since 3D FPSs were starting to be a lot more unique and diverse versus the 2D sprite based FPSs of the early 90s.
It's literally just Marathon in name. Art style is completely different, no campaign, just PVP extraction battle pass BS.
Edit: watched all the way through as requested, still not impressed, I'm an original Marathon fan and this just isn't doing it for me.
"As a Halo lore channel, partly"
The twinge in my heart there... Infinite could've been so much more
Halo infinite doesn’t have “lore” 🤨
343 butchered Halo.
@@benclark4823 I mean… it does, but it doesn’t seem like they’ll be expanding on it anytime soon 😔
@@benclark4823, it’s got plenty of lore, the problem is they decided not to work on anything other than PVP, sadly this is how the world of videogames are, I love Bungie, but they’re probably gonna screw the pooch, I doubt many of us want a PVP Marathon.
I personally am very sick of PvP, played it for 20 years, it’s boring.
The halo lore is way too messed up at this point to resolve any issues and move forward in story without conflicting lore. I mean my god the amount of retcons over retcons 343 have done to Bungie games and their own kinda just broke the universe to be unworkable.
In terms of the aesthetics I feel like it will be similar to Neil Blompkifs movies( District 9, Elysium, Chappie) where it will have a juxtaposition of these advanced societies upper echelon using clean and powerful tech but the environment will show the grunge and degradation that has been caused by this conflict.
That's a very good pick for a comparison. Nice to read after so many people saying it looks like "boring fortnite stuff," for some reason. Knowing their work in Destiny, I'd place bets on a lot of designs being done by Dima Goryainov. If you look at their work for destiny i feel like my assumption will make sense.
Very intelligent comment tbh i was thinking how they would explain the style shift or just ignore it for sake of the "reboot" but this would be a satisfying answer imo
now this was the type of comment that i was looking for it makes sense for some runners to have advanced sleek weapons while others to have more gritty weapons and design it also shows in the concept art seeing the mixture of sleek and gritty design
No campaign though :(
Yes, embarassing..
Yeah, that’s a serious turnoff for many people
Can’t have any hopes for a Bungie game anymore completely different company from the one that made Halo CE-Halo 3.
Wait what??? The whole game was about a story/
Campaign??
@jaroramirez "pvp series" That's gotta to be dumbest take I've ever seen.I get that Bungie wants to take a different route for money or otherwise, but Marathon IS LITERALLY ABOUT THE OVERCOMPLICATED STORY Marathon Infinity has "canonical" explation for it's Forge mode with all the alternative universe/4thwall breaking bs.The trilogy was all Campaign focused. The M1 game only had only one pvp mode. You're telling it all the effort went into that? Gtfo. It's sad that they will probably only do terminals instead of translating the story into a modern medium.Minimal viable product as always, that is the modern-day Motto of Bungie.
its crazy that Marathon is back (to a degree) I am so hyped for it as I love extraction survival shooters, and I am addicted to Bungie's games. I do however, feel for the few hardcore fans of the original Marathon games... they've been wanting something akin to a Doom 2016 reboot for decades now, and it will likely never happen for them unfortunately...
Also, with how Bungie monetizes games now, I am worried about how Marathon will be monetized.
The terminals in Halo 3 were my first exposure to environmental and secret storytelling. I've also participated in every Destiny 2 ARG and secret community quest. Bungie has people that absolutely know how to do community puzzles very well so I have no doubt this is going to be their absolute best playground for these kinds of events. Whats even more clever is that this style encourages a higher degree of community engagement and socializing (something that was never really tapped into as deeply back in the old days before social media). If the shared world is affected by the decisions of its players, then this could have potential to be the truest player-driven narrative in gaming.
i just cant care about this reboot, its not the same company that made the OG, and for them to pretend like they are is insulting.
bungie now just makes a grind fest for the mentally ill to time sink into
You realize that bungie made the original Marathon💀
@@Spuckley. It doesn't necessarily the same core people are involved.
@@Spuckley. The mailman who delivered your mail seven years ago is likely not the same one who is doing so now.
@@half-mod3066 well I guess that's true as they first created it 27 years ago.
>Marathon class frigates like the Pillar of Autumn
💀💀💀
How insane would it be if Marathon became successful and your channel transitioned into a Marathon channel and thrived. That would be so cool and appropriate for your career man.
That would be assuming Bungie took the lore seriously unlike Destiny. Bungie follow the storytelling method of JJ Abrams. They use the "Mystery Box," they set up a really cool premise with little to no answers, but don't really have an idea on how they're gonna answer it. Remember how cool the Grimoire cards were?
@@EthanRom I think the problem lies less in bungie's writers competence and more in management. Destiny clearly makes campaigns too wide-audiencish, with overabundance of epicness and dumb humor, because that's what they're selling to most of the people in expansions. And lore needs to adapt to those campaigns, therefore making all the stupid incoherence in the story.
Since Marathon main selling point and gameplay draw will clearly be pvp aspect, bungie could make the lore and story suit their intentions, and not what sells best.
Just found out about marathon by watching your video last week, and then this gets announced. Maybe I should check out marathon
The “Give Halo back to Bungie” sentiment… I agree with you on that. The company isn’t the same, anymore. The INDUSTRY isn’t the same, either.
My issue, and it's a gamebreaking one, is that it won't have a single player campaign. I simply don't touch PvP as a whole. In any capacity. If it's exclusively an extraction shooter, I have zero interest in it. Watching the trailer isn't going to change my mind.
I just watched the ad for Marathon on RUclips and halfway through I got the notification for your video. I'm so stoked for this and it caught me very pleasantly off guard.
I am in your walls observing what you watch so I know when to drop content 👁️
@HiddenXperia Dude that's sick, say hi one of these times. 👋
Jordy.
@I cook pets Hey there big man. 😏
It's gonna be a PVP Extraction shooter. it's already dead in the water
extraction games are looking to be the new popular trend of game after battle royales, and live service games are nearly impossible to make successful now and bungie has one of the most successful games in the looter shooter genre.
My brain will not let me use consumable items in video games, and extraction shooters are pretty much consumable items the video game. I'm so sad.
The Pfhor environments were super duper clean and colorful. The Marathon itself is the grungy industrial location.
After watching the behind the scenes interview, the community feeling they want to make seems absolutely amazing. they talked about a global leader board, having your name showed off because YOU were the one to open up a new area for EVERYONE else, helping other players, flexing your power over other players.
One big gripe I have with extraction shooters is how they are shoot on sight if they don't have an honour system. whether they do a similar system to tarkov's scavs, or the division's rogue system, they should definitely address the shoot on sight mindset. I loved in the division banding together with other players to take down a group of rogues, the occasional backstab, and getting to know what players were like after seeing them multiple times.
A nice system I can think of is you're a green player if you haven't killed anyone in the past 30 raids, orange if you have, and red if it was recent.
A reputation system would easily fit into this imo, and would make it much easier for new players to get into and to daily the game without it ripping you apart.
Yeah I agree! Nothing is more satisfying then grouping up and working together to win.
Love the spooky flood music when you started talking about microtransactions 😂😂
I’m very mixed on how I feel about this game. I’ve always been interested in the Marathon story and lore but never got the chance to experience it so this might be really cool. However I’m not too big on multiplayer only games any more due to the state of the industry and MTX. If the game doesn’t get success it could end up dead in the water because of no PvE elements. I also haven’t had too much experience with extraction shooters either besides Hunt Showdown and Cod DMZ if that even counts. Hunt is great and I’ve never played Tarkov but the genre is definitely good if done well (unlike DMZ imo). I think I’ll have to see gameplay and try it out before having a solid opinion but I’m optimistic. I would really like to see lore collabs with Byf! Please make it happen!!
I'd say give the originals a shot. They've been freeware since 2005, and thanks to Aleph One, are basically playable on any modern system.
Would have liked to see the dark gritty aesthetic that Marathon had, especially after Bungie dropped Destiny 1's dark atmosphere for the brighter fun time that Destiny 2 has.
You're very right on extraction shooters not catering to cosmetic microtransactions. A huge red flag I see with this game is its funded by Tencent, where microtransactions will be the focus and and in Destiny every piece of gear almost can be changed into another gears appearance, something they could carry over into Marathon. Tencent is involved with Activision, so if they have influence which of course they would this may resemble CODs DMZ more than the classic Tarkov.
Activision has been gone from Bungie for a while now
@@TheAHuman True, however investors clearly push for certain aspects to dominate games they invest in and Tencent loves microtransactions and they now invest in both Bungie and Activision games.
I'm inexplicably hyped for this game. I was born in 1995 so i never played marathon. I also didnt get into Marathon's story until the durandal references from that little comic that shows cortana accessing the domain. Damn. I hope it's good.
I remember playing halo 3 in 09 finding the mendicant bias terminal, When I dug into marathon and older shooters durandal gave me that same feeling.
It visually looks nothing whatsoever like Marathon. It has no story or single player campaign and its a live service PVP extraction shooter. No one asked for this.
This honestly just feels like something completely new wearing the skin of marathon and I can’t say I’m optimistic. The vibes I’m getting from this is like when Treyarch forwent a campaign entirely in Black Ops 4 because of how popular battle royale was at the time, and we all saw how well that worked out for them. This feels like bungie hopping on the extraction shooter bandwagon and defiling the grave of a long dead IP to do so
Couldn't have said it better myself
I don't really want a solely pvp, they should have some sort of horde mode for people who don't want to fight others.
Not a Marathon fan, but my friend, resident boomer shooter enjoyer and the person who got me into Halo, is! Not seen his reaction yet but I can imagine he's at least intrigued to an extent as to what this game will entail!
I don't want an extraction shooter. I don't want a trend chaser I want a story driven game with fantastic shooting!
Agree, I have limited time to grind, etc. I just want a great single-player experience, and maybe it can have a multi-player on the side.
Glad you are happy doing this video. I look forward for more.
Honestly, I don't have a lot of faith that Bungie isn't going to find some way to screw up either the monetization, gameplay, or story, or some combination of the three
And if it ends up being live service, then you just know they're gonna operate with the mindset Bungie already said they follow which can be summed up as "just shit out content and fix it later"
One thing Bungie have never, and will never screw up is gameplay.
@@TheAHuman You mean always screwing up gameplay. They were having trouble even with Halo CE. Whether it be a big or small issue, something has always gone wrong
I'm all about you covering this because it is so clearly up your alley. Subscribed for the Halo lore, but now here for your journey as well, you likable so-and-so.
Dude I would absolutely love it if u were to cover any lore n deep lore on marathon like u do with halo 😇 ❤
Get a load of this guy, just called the pillar of autumn a marathon class
Jk Luc, love your videos!
I thought the POA was a Halcyon class
Most of Destiny PvP players are angry because Bungie is making just enough work on Destiny PvP to not let this game mode die since 4 years because their whole PvP team is on Marathon dev.
I can't disagree with them. Let a whole part of a game dying because you want to make something else.
This move kinda suck considering many player love Destiny PvP.
Remind me Blizzard Overwatch PvE move
Honestly it’s more of the fact that Bungie is having dedicated servers for Marathon. Meanwhile the Destiny community has been asking for that for years.
Don’t kid yourself. Crucible was never good.
The security officer in Marathon doesn't just wear the Mjolnir Mk. IV, he IS the Mjolnir Mk. IV Cyborg.
You summed up a lot of what I think about the marathon trailer it's artstyle and new bungie.
8:10 i assume they just dont want the game to look and envoke Halo or Destiny in anyway. Especially with how Halos aesthetic was so inpired by Marathon
And the new aesthetics look cool and new for something set about 1000 years in the future.
@@IwinMahWay yeah that’s something that stood out to me. At first I was like woah this looks completely different. But I actually really dig it and to be honest while it might not be the craziest shit ever, I think its so cool Bungie created three different scifi universes that have completely different vibes and aesthetics which obviously wouldn’t be as noticeable if marathon had the older style. Halo (and og marathon too) have a an almost grounded scifi military look to everything with some of the more fantastical things being from the forerunners and covenant and even then it’s still a bit grounded. Destiny has a scifi fantasy thing going on which obviously looks completely different from halo. It literally looks like what would happen if you took a fantasy setting with all the medieval stuff and just placed it far into the future. And then new marathon has again a completely different aesthetic from the other 2 with the whole cyberpunk-ish designs
I really hope the game has different modes. I'm not one for PvP games, I do play some but I much prefer single player/co-op games, and a Risk Of Rain kinda thing would be really cool
It won't
Dont get your hopes up or cope thinking it might, this genre and idea they have CANNOT work with singleplayer modes
I am super hyped to see Marathon revisited, but I am a tiny bit let down it is an extraction shooter. It's just not my cup of tea, but I will be trying it out.
As for art direction, I feel like they're wanting to really swing with a super hyper distinct look. Not many games are that clean vibrant sci-fi look. As well as knowing bungie, I feel the dark grungy style will be hidden under the surface.
It makes me happy that a mod developer named digsite is also making the halo ce e3 demo playable original and remade graphics
We’ve know for six months from Sean W, but I’m pretty stoked for this game. Could just be the trailer music, bugle knows how to hype you with the tunes.
I’ve wanted you to cover Marathon content for so long now. Can’t wait for this.
The Marathon demo on a certain Mac Games 2 CD was my introduction to all this, way back in middle school. Yes, that was a while ago, ha ha.
modern bungie is... well i think we all know. but im curious to see what this will be like
I’m excited for this to be the multiplayer shooter that makes me feel at home again
It’s definitely piqued my interest as a long time Halo fan and BR fan. Haven’t tried any extraction shooters yet, but will be keeping up to date with your videos on marathon!
They need to make a HD trilogy of Marathon games for modern consoles
So many remakes and reboots and I’m all for it.
Just like DJ sets people appreciate the history lesson
A collab with My Name Is Byf?!
Oh my... this'll be awesome!
As someone who has played Destiny since 2014, and has seen what Bungie has been up to, I can only hope this game is a success. Not because I am a huge Marathon or extraction shooter fan, but because, at least, 75% of the Destiny dev team was either pulled or left to work on this game. So I am rooting for it simply in hopes that, one day, maybe Destiny can see a return to form.
i love how you put flood music when talking about microstransactions.
I am BEYOND STOKED because I am a fan of the old Marathon trilogy made by Bungie back in the 90s, which was an amazing FPS for its time, and was the first to add duel wielding guns, and the ability to really look around in any direction. Love the enthusiasm!
Slight correction. The security officer in Marathon isn't wearing Mjolnir Mark IV armor, he is a Mjolnir Mark IV cyborg. Which means he's a dead man brought back to life without his consent in order fight humanity's battles. He's basically the Robocop version of a Spartan.
I cannot help but feel trepidation at the idea of a new installment of Marathon, after all this time, being another iteration of the current gaming trend. The aesthetics made me heavily skeptical when I saw the trailer, and when I heard it was PvP only my anticipation sank like a lead balloon.
I have all but written it off in my mind at this point. If it turns out to be good I can always come back and enjoy it. If it is as bad as I fear, no skin off my nose. I think it is the only winning move on my part.
I feel suspicious and honestly feel like it's a missed opportunity. I'm really into single player games, especially retro shooters, and seeing a series like Marathon go the extraction shooter route feels like Halo 4 all over again, chasing a trend that it never needed to in the first place. I guess time will tell, but it just feels really off in so many areas to me.
The difference there is that Halo 4 still had a campaign. A campaign with a similar format to the prior Halo games, that you can play 10, 20, or even more years later. Even its multiplayer wasn't *that* far off the mark in comparison to other multiplayer FPS experiences. Even without MCC preserving the game, you can still experience Halo 4.
Marathon being a (presumably live-service) PVP-only extraction shooter means that it will die eventually. In 10, 20, or more years, all of the content will be lost and all of the effort will be for nothing.
Would’ve loved to see a true bungee single player campaign again. Especially the Marathon series
I just started playing Marathon and have been enjoying it a lot.
I've actually been porting Marathon (the first level) to Halo 3: ODST as well!
Marathon actually is really fun. Glad to see them reviving it.
DUDE!! Your voice is perfect for that Supremacy 1914 game I have seen advertisements for lately.
Marathon lore videos? Uhh, YES please!
27 years. thats how long it took to get Marathon back
Them Bungie checks coming in hot. All the Halo RUclipsrs getting paid
hyped that you finally have something to make more content with
Man, the entertainment industry is digging real deep into the archives for more franchises to destroy
I was watching your Tarkov Video last night, and I was gonna comment, “Man, do I have good news for you…” I would love Marathon Lore videos!
Excited to see marathon back but it's a shame I'll never play it because I loathe playing extraction shooters
Bungie started as a Mac first/only company that aggressively pushed to show the Mac platform could be a competitor to the PC game market at that time. They invented the “wasd+mouse” control scheme. Marathon was the first FPS that was 3D rather than 2.5D (flat map with a ceiling). They used the terminals to make cutscenes a choice rather than a forced interaction that severed the fantasy of being “in” the world. I’ll be glad to see them come back to this game that I spent as much time in as you have Tarkov!
Dude I found out about marathon installing my clients tv as an ad on a RUclips video and audibly freaked out
Hey HiddenX, this is random but I am a student in recording arts and I really like your mic setup. What kind of audio interface are you using? Really good video BTW, I need to brush up on Marathon lore. I will definitely tune in for that Marathon content as well.
I like the hair cut bro! Been watching to content all year your doing an awesome job man!
I hope Marathon brings me back to enjoying Bungie games again. A lot of pvp games have been lacking for me as of late. Let's hope Bungies take on extraction shooters is interesting. Since this game will most likely be a live service, they could eventually add in a 4v4 type pvp gamemode. Apex did something like that so I wouldn't be surprised
You bring up a great point that I hadn't thought of. Marathon was always told in terminals and they could easily do the same here and in some really interesting interactive ways the originals couldn't. That being said, who knows if they'll actually do that, and I know fans probably wanted something more substantial and actually had some voice lines lol
Bungie are coming for all their old Halo fans since we've been let down so much by Microsoft and 343. I really think that is their intention for sure. Easy marketing
10:52 music is super fitting
Marathon in name only and it's a PvP game, ugh
The music in the reveal trailer was fire
You and Byf, my two favorite lore channels for two of my favorite games. I think I’d have died and gone to heaven if that collab happens
I don't know why but this makes me excited for TATANKA. Hopefully we get to see anything related to it officially at this Xbox games showcase.
This looks interesting. Love the style, and extraction shooters are a recent trend I actually kinda like.
I don't know much about marathon though, and I imagine if I did it would probably be frustrating just how different it'll be. Maybe they should have given it a new name, but I don't know enough to make that judgment
What’s so crazy about Marathon is that the third game starts with the aliens releasing a Lovecraftian eldritch monster because they’re sore losers
this goes for mister Xperia but yall should check out the playthroughs of the marathon series mandalore gaming has done he also has links to ancient websites trying to catalog Marathon lore some of which are still getting updated.
I'm kinda hoping for a more Hunt: Showdown approach to Marathon. I love Tarkov, but it's got such a steep learning curve. I think it's important that Bungie keep it streamlined and accessible while keeping it high stakes.
Tarkov but without the cock and ball torture seems fun... also the art design is 10/10 which is no surprise
wym CBT is the best part of Tarkov
I know a ton about both’s lore but I feel like I’ll get a little upset over how much they could have to retcon in the new marathon series to avoid legal troubles. 1 thing I can say that sticks out to me at this point is the Cortana letters the canon status for both franchises will be almost identical to each.
i am too hyped for Marathon to return. I’m crying.
the Destiny Lore Daddy and the Halo Lore Uncle doing a collab for the franchise that kinda started it all (it'll all eventually wind back into the Paths of Darkness and its many Myths). talk about hype!
Extremely hyped for Marathon !
I'm very excited to try out this new marathon. I've recently been getting into HUNT: showdown, and it's been a lot of fun. I really am looking forward to hear you break down the lore as well!
More concerned on if Microsoft will care or not. Given many aspects from marathon and the sort are names and such in the Halo franchise so I'd assume bungie would change them. But then they may just ignore it.
nah they cant marathon is bungie ip
Marathon as an IP has existed longer than Halo has. Also, Halo has names and aspects from Marathon, not the other way around. I guess its a legal grey area I suppose. If anything, 343 will downplay the aspects of Halo that are references to Marathon. They already have been since they took over. I mean, the original Reclaimer symbol was the literal Marathon logo
Not that it matters since Halo is been put through a wood chipper by 343 anyways
Tbh I didn’t even think they would even have the rights to Marathon after the MS acquisition to get Halo, but im sure Bungie and MS lawyers had all that hashed out
Thank you for telling all those people that Bungie is not the Bungie we know from the Halo era. A lot of "fans" don't get it or believe this and keep saying "OH Give Halo back to Bungie!" ehm... no....
I am kinda interessted and also not..... I don't like Extraction shooters and would like to have a Singleplayer Coop Campaign over a PVP Extraction only shooter.
But the artstyle is kinda interessting and well I bet the gunplay will be great. The one thing Bungie always did right was the gunplay
Let's wait and see how the game turns out