Interesting after so many years that's people are still amazed about this motorcycle because I'm not. I love my nc750x DCT which by the way has over 239,000 km over 5 years riding all over Southeast Asia based in Thailand. I use that off road on road and try to stay off highways as much as possible as I prefer more scenic routes. Mine is a 2015 and is the second generation of DCT which in my estimation is a brilliant technology and I've had no issues with my transmission. It's taking me to Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Vietnam, Malaysia, all over Thailand and some special trips to China including a 30-day adventure to Everest camp in Tibet and back to Bangkok. I've gone through 16 sets of tires, numerous chain and sprockets, and standard maintenance. I really enjoy this motorcycle and it ticks all my boxes
You are the man Mike! I've followed some of your adventures, and you're the perfect ambassador for the bike. Honda should gift you a new one as a thanks for all the ones you've sold indirectly. Ride On Brother!
Unfortunately there's a lot of idiots, that snub and mock this model of bike. there's a lot of people that like the dct trans. I myself have both legs with torn acl's and injuries from playing soccer and cycling wildly, ( mtb). So there's definitely a use for this type of machine. Is practical, don't look bad, at all, economical, and seems to be fun, even that is proven to not be fast. I agree with your comment 👍 Like a 2 wheeled honda accord!! I almost Forgot, best part is that it has The FRUNK!!
@@cocoloco65482 I fully agree. I had an accident in April that tore both the ACL and MCL of my left leg so this bike is a literal godsend for me. I also drive a Honda Civic so I may as well have a 2 wheeled version of it! LOL
You can fit 2x full size standard helmets under the seat of a Suzuki AN400 K1, or a 24 can crate of beer ;) Can you guess I'm lookng at the NC750x to change to... hehe
I would definitely do manual mode for any offroad use to be able to select correct gears for climbs or slow maneuvers Whoever says this bike is dorky or for women, well those kind people will find fault with anything that makes them feel superior to others, if it wasn't the bike, itd be your outfit or your car or something, This bike is an absolute universal utilitarian marvel especially when you consider price an practicality, its a bike anyone in the family can use and even experienced riders can have lot of easy-going fun!! And it look freaking great!!
I recently purchased a 2023 NC750X with DCT for backroad cruising around Florida. My husband borrowed it to make a run to the store. I will say that I have never received such enthusiastic texts or seen such a smile on his face when he rides his ZX-14. While he loves his bike, he said he was surprised how much fun the NC750X was and how nice it was to have the DCT vs shifting through town. Oh, and he had to take a picture of the two cartons of 18 XL eggs he fit in the frunk! LOL!
In similar fashion to a manual transmission in a car, the parking brake on my NC750 doubles as a sleeper security system as many have no clue how to move the bike once I've engaged it. Take a permanent marker and black out the red ring on the parking brake button and you're golden.
I had one of these (1st gen, 700cc's) with a manual transmission. Extremely low fuel consumption, low center of gravity and really practical. Perfect for commuting in a country with high fuel prices and bad road conditions. Cheers from Portugal.
One thing I've never heard anyone mention in this review is the amazing steering geometry. You can scrape the pegs easily. It recovers awesome in a slide. You can stand on the pegs to ease an aching butt. It's cheap to run. Cheap to maintain. It's handling is amazing, even with the mediocre suspension. I'm 6'3 and it hauls me around all day at 80 miles per hour with no drama.
For some reason, I find it difficult to imagine riding an automatic bike. What is that like? Is it still fun to ride without the constant manual manipulation?
@@randybuck2320 I'm 6'3" an it feels cramped when first getting on, but OTOH, I did not bother to install the drop footpegs I bought (yet). Legs folded underneath doesn't seem to bug me. Seat is soso for a skinny butt, but fidgeting helps. In towns, I sit back on the pillion seat and drive for a while to switch things up. I put about 1600 mi on a brand new one in 3.5 weeks, returning rider after multi-decade lapse. Love this machine. Feels safe, never surprises you, that frunk makes hauling groceries easy (a LOT will fit in there), and I get about 80mpg out of it. Wish it had cruise, but one of those throttle palm levers fixed 80% of my issues there.
What I don't understand is folks are all raging about quick shifters, but rag on automatic or semi automatic, WTF??? All these cases don't use clutch. DCT having both full auto or paddle shift. Paddle shift is like using a quick shifter but instead of your feet shifting your hand does it. DCT is much smoother and faster compared to a quickshifter so why do folks rag on DCT and rage about quickshifter??? If these folks are so lazy about not using the clutch they should be thrilled in not having to shift at all with full auto or much quicker, smoother and easier with a paddle DCT shifting. A quickshifter so satisfying but a semi-auto or full auto not, WTF???
Totally agree. I have a NC750X DCT. It gives you such a relaxed and safer ride and has ample power. Beats me what the "macho" dislike of DCT is all about. I can well imagine that other manufacturers will eventually follow Honda's lead.
Is this a good motorcycle for commuting if I don’t know how to shift/use a manual? Can I ride it like a car with an automatic transmission? I don’t know anyone with a motorcycle around me so I can’t even practice with a manual. A motorcycle is cheaper than a car and I wouldn’t have to ride the bus everywhere if I want to leave campus
@@JacksonWalter735 Motorcycles have high maintenance intervals so it might not be cheaper if you pay for service, but if you DIY it can be. Best if you get a scooter, would be even lower cost and even easier to ride. You sound like you still a student. I would recommend a 150cc scooter. Everything about it is lower cost, from buying to insurance to operating/maintenance. A good condition used car like a Toyota Yaris or Corolla is lower cost than a motorcycle but not a scooter.
One of the better explanations I've heard. Basically, it's a clutchless 6-speed gearbox. It's not a CVT, nor is it a traditional automatic transmission, which would have a torque converter. In traditional autos/CVTs, when you let off the throttle, it coasts. There is no coasting in a DCT - you actually feel the engine braking. On my 2020 Africa Twin DCT, the level of engine braking is adjustable, with 4 levels to choose from. As a lower cost entry, I also noticed the NC does not have "Sport Modes," as the Africa Twin does. The "D" button on the ATwin, engages SI, SII, and SII, three levels of sport mode you can cycle through buy long-pressing the "D" button for a second or so, which is labelled "D/S" on the ATwin. I also noticed the NC has no lever on the left handlebar, where the ATwin has a lever there, with an extra long reach, which is the parking brake. Last thing, I checked the accessories and it's not offered on the NC, but there is an optional dealer/user installed gear shifting lever for the ATwin DCT ,so you can manually row the gears, instead of the bike doing it. Both bikes do offer a manual mode, just left of the "D" button, but you can also always interrupt and switch gears even in D or S1 - S3 mode, by using the foot shift lever if installed, or the trigger pair on the left handle bar. After 6 months on the ATwin, I don't know if I want to go back - the Honda DCT, at least on an Africa Twin, offers the best of both worlds!!
I bought my first DCT bike this year and I love it. Started riding in 68 and like so many others I said I would never own a bike with DCT but after riding 5000 miles so far I am in love. You can still change gears manually with a push of a button. Face facts this is no different than F1 cars. In sport mode it changes gears like a pro. Stay on the gas and it will redline in every gear. Try one before saying no to the DCT.
I agree, todays automatics shift far better than most people ever will & as you said, when F1 cars & traditionally manual only sports cars are auto then at least give it an honest try. I've read other DCT reviews & even die-hards (riding since 1968) admit that especially in sport mode, it is really that good. Thanks for your comment.
My first bike was the NC700X DCT. As a new rider I loved not having to worry about shifting as it kept my focus on other areas of learning to ride. My friend, a rider of 30 years, also purchased the DCT Rebel 1100 and absolutely loves it. Also knowing someone with Parkinson’s and carpal tunnel who can’t pull the clutch anymore, the automatic function allows him to keep riding.
@@Miata822 It will likely be my first real motorcycle. I might decide I want more later, and once I sell my manual mx-5 I might decide I miss manual transmissions and want a manual motorcycle, but for now having at least one vehicle I'm not forced to shift is appealing. That storage is the killer feature for me, though. It'd be hard for me to regress in that regard from my moped.
Honda unapologetically thinks outside the box, and that’s what I love about the brand. If I had a stable of bikes, I bet, more often than not, the NC750X would get the nod; especially in terms of ‘Daily Commuting. The synergy of practicality and low end torque is oddly satisfying.
People like you are the reason why Honda is boring. Their buyers primarily consist of goody two shoes who wear a white shirt, jeans and New Balance comfort shoes. Look, I understand you want something practical and comfortable but don’t try to be so utilitarian with everything. Motorcycles are meant to arouse, not be toneless tools.
Every time I see a motorcyclist with a quick up/down shifter, they say it's great that you don't have to use the clutch.. not a far cry from an automatic IMO.
Eh we all settle for a level convenience or everyone would still be jogging. I guess the difference is you still have the option to choose your gear with quickshifts and not be forced into wtv the computer wants.
I feel like the purpose of a QS is very different. Definitely track oriented. I personally turn it off on the road as I prefer to blip the throttle myself when downshifting but on track when braking and downshifting at the same time the bike is so much more stable with the quickshifter specially when downshifting 3 gears down within few seconds.
Yeah, I'm definitely not saying that they are the same.. just not enough of a difference for people to be going up in arms about. Don't like it, don't buy it and whatnot
Perfect California commuter bike, small enough to lane split easily, enough power to handle the freeway without issue, the extra storage, and super fuel efficient.
This was my first bike. Had it in manual. Absolutely loved commuting on it, the front trunk is amazing and it handles like a dream because of a low center of gravity,
That frunk makes it a real commuter bike. It'll fit a subway sandwich and a 20oz coke without issue. I'm constantly taking mine (2020, previous model) to grab a this or that and have no worries about where I'm going to put that pint of ice cream or small bag of groceries. It's the New Balance dad shoe of motorcycles. And that's WHY it's so good.
I currently have the nc700s manual as my first bike. I've been riding it 2 years. Planned to upgrade to something faster after the first year but.. It's just so dam good for getting to work and back I don't want to get rid of it! It fits my L helmet, my work laptop (a surface), or 12 beer. So cheap to run too.
@@jsherck I'm 51, a new rider and as i sit here staring at my comfortable as fuck, white on white wide width NB kicks, your last 2 sentences have spoken to me .... i have some decisions to make :) Thank You!
if bikes like this will bring new users to the two-wheel life I am down with it. Less traffic, less pollution, more awareness on bikers, more parking... it's a win-win. :) Also, I think the maxi-scooters market is converging with the motorcycle market, which is not bad. I would probably consider the Honda X-ADV 750 if it was available on the US market.
Instead of government incentives for electric cars we need incentives on this, scooters, and ebikes. our city sprawl in the U.S. would be less awful. But we’re not that smart
@@Jharfouch Very true. Electric is the future but electric cars are no better than any other cars. Motorcycles themselves pollute more than cars but this is counteracted by less congestion, less wear on the roads and if more people rode bikes the road network could downsize. Which saves money and creating the roads pollutes a lot. Even if we don't care about pollution more people on bikes is better for their mental health. Cars fuck people up in more ways than one. They run them over, pollute the air and ruin their minds.
So at the end of the video, the NC750 makes it into the top 5 on the Daily Rider leaderboard - but every time I watch one of these videos, I feel like the mid-size bikes are usually being disparaged as not having enough horsepower and torque. This may just be the way I hear your comments but I feel like mid-size and smaller bikes are discussed in terms of how they compare to larger motorcycles. I have owned 18 different motorcycles. Yes I compare and contrast them to one another, but I never expect the smaller bikes to stack up against the larger bikes in terms of power. Instead, I am more interested in how I fit on the bike, how the bike fits the riding style it was designed for and how the bike meets my expectations for what it is. Is it possible to make a Daily Rider video about mid-size or smaller displacement motorcycles without contrasting them with bikes that have more horsepower and torque? A bike with a DCT transmission in my world would rate higher on the leader board than a bike that has the ability to do a wheelie - but then I do not feel the need to do many wheelies on my daily ride.
This is one of my 3 bikes. I ride it most, not because I don't know how to ride manual ( 2 of my bikes are manuals), not because in lazy, but because it allows me to just enjoy the ride and see my surroundings rather than figuring out what gear to be in on a turn or making sure I need to be on the clutch or neutral gear. It just makes riding fun in a different way. Now my vtx1800f3... is a different fun compared to my CHonda Grom SF.
@@louisross2919 i think you're missing the point. Even if one does things "automatically" they still need doing. With DCT and this engine you just relaxed all the time, and just happy riding.
As a current DCT rider, I DO NOT RECOMMEND DCT to beginners for 3 reasons. 1) Whiskey throttling There is nothing to cut power to the bike. The user needs to completely understand and respect how sensitive throttle responses can be. An ignorant full twist of the wrist can easily send the rider into orbit. 2) low speed maneuvers (beginners worst enemy) Where you would be normally feathering the clutch and controlling how much power you give the bike, you can’t with a DCT. Which means you have to work more attentively to keep the motorcycle from running away from you when doing tasks such as tight u-turns. This usually involves pinning the rear brake at particular intervals which takes skill to get it right even for seasoned riders. 3) traction during turns A bike has the most traction when the suspension is loaded with either throttle or brake. DCTs cannot perceive road conditions like the human eye and have a habit of shifting at wrong times during turns which momentarily unloads the suspension and can cause you to slip. It’s uncommon but it does happen occasionally. It can be quite jarring. DCT is great technology and is commonly misunderstood in the motorcycle world. It is very practical and convenient when used correctly. But in my opinion, it does take a bit more knowledge of how riding works to use it effectively when compared to a traditional manual transmission. I personally enjoy my DCT and do not regret getting one. I was skeptical at first until I rode one for the first time. It was a blast with lots of smiles.
Hey Danny, I got a Rebel 1100 DCT as my first motorcycle, this is my experience 1) Whiskey Throttling - There are 4 ride modes available : Normal, Sport, Custom, and Rain. I started in Rain and that greatly reduces throttle sensitivity. I actually had more challenges with whiskey throttling on a manual transmission due to having to remember to use both clutch and throttle. It takes a while to develop the muscle memory to control both and with the DCT it's just easier. Too much power, on the DCT just let go of throttle just like you would a clutch and throttle. 2) Rain mode helps greatly with low speed maneuvers, on the DCT I practiced heavily on figure 8's and sharp turns from a stop in prep for my new rider course at Harley Davidson. Felt comfortable on a traditional motorcycle and the DCT, both were fine. On the DCT you learn to go easy on the throttle and on the manual you learn to feather the throttle and clutch. 3) Have to heartily disagree on this one , one of the best things about the DCT is running into a corner and the ability to adjust speed without worrying about what gear to enter in, what gear to change into if you get it wrong. At no point in my riding has my Rebel ever "unloaded the suspension," corners are extremely smooth in the DCT and I go looking for for roads with corners. I don't enjoy highway miles, I enjoy the twisties. With that being said, it is fun running through the gears on a manual transmissions. I do plan on getting a second bike and that will be a manual.
@@bhdutt great points! Unfortunately, older DCT models with non-electronic throttles don’t have riding modes to compensate. These were just small things I noticed after going from manual motorcycles to the DCT. Each choice has its pros and cons and will do better at different things than the other. I do not dismiss the DCT, it is wonderful technology and makes a lot of sense for some people. It unapologetically serves a niche in the motorcycle community and does it well. Who could hate on that? Personally though, my next bike will be a manual again. DCT is just a crutch I never needed.
Yes, it's very pedestrian, however some people want this, and it is quite suitable for urban commuting. I would never choose an automatic transmission, however it's fine if others want to so long as I have the option to stay manual.
Honda DCT in manual mode is awesome. It shifts so easy and fast! I have a Rebel 1100 DCT, and it’s easy to do 0-60 in 3 seconds without much of a wheelie 🤣. I do not really care for automatic mode, but I love manual mode more than a manual clutch and shift or a quick shifter.
I wish they had one of these on their smaller displacement bikes. I don't have a need for a 750 and I personally look at a 6,000 dollar motorcycle and say 'That is really expensive' so needless to say a 9,000 dollar bike is a no go. I am looking at getting a Versys 300 and if Honda had one of these in that bracket that'd be great.
Clutchless transmissions will bring in more riders to the hobby. Motorcycles are somewhat of a hobby as most USA people also own a car. Motorcycles almost a luxury in many cases.
@@petedavis1040 just the scooter/moped crowd. Automatic cars even, are just now the last 2 years being popular, more so than manual transmissions. I’d say that where i live, if someone bought a dct bike, it would have to be a real super touring person.
27k on my '16 NC700x DCT so far, like Zach says it may not be the most exciting bike in the world, but it gets shit done. Zero problems in that time period. Heated grips, rear case, seat concepts seat, Kaoko throttle stabilizer make it a cruising machine. Racetech springs, gold valves and Ohlins rear shock addressed all suspension issues...
Yeah it's pretty brilliant. If people need something to commute with its brilliant. The high torque motor is a smart match. Having the weight down so low would hide the weight when moving. Obviously you'll feel it at a stop but even then it's probably easier to keep balanced than a similar sized and weighted bike with a standard upright motors.
Agreed. These are fantastic bikes and the rest of the world understands them better than the US market. But this generation is looking to change that. They have been selling well and the DCT is hard to find especially in SoCal.
Whenever people talk about the DCT, they seem to suggest it's mostly good for people who can't use a manual, but I just find it interesting. I daily a manual non-abs Miata, and I would choose the DCT ABS model just to have something different. I also consider an automatic to be a (slight) safety feature. Of all the motorcycles I see, this is one of the few that feels like a true upgrade from a scooter. Most others seem to forget practicality or are quite large.
How does this motorcycle anger ANY person? It does EXACTLY what it sets out to do. It does not tell a single lie in its marketing material or styling, it does not trick, endanger or fool anyone.
Just bought one a week ago. Possibly the last one in the Northeast of the US. The next closest one was in TN. Can't believe it isn't more popular. Excellent, excellent commuter. A lot more fun than I thought. I thought it was going to be really slow, and not fun... what are people smoking? The power is more than adequate, the low center of gravity makes it easy and even fun to manuever. I'm in love.
this is the bike to buy with your head not with your heart. Scooter and bike, the best of both worlds. 99% of the people use bikes to commute not for traveling and here is unbeatable. Being careful I have done 70 mpg and even 80 mpg . Nothing beats that for commuting where cost is a main factor
It is a pleasure to see the leaderboard and how bikes that normally get no love are able to tower over the hotrods and expensive toys. Now if they gave this thing a belt drive to cut maintenance even more!
Belt drive doesn't have less maintenance you just trade a hand-full of small jobs for a big job down the road. It is one of those 'next owner' issues though I suppose I can see how people would see belt drives as maintenance free*.
This transmission is brilliant. Especially on the goldwing. Especially in town and in traffic. Especially on the Blueridge parkway. The NC750 x seat is horrible. Just horrible. Cement is softer. Everything else is brilliant.
Yep. One of the first mods on my NC was the seat. I'll never understand how I can spend 3hrs on my riding mower in perfect comfort, but my butt hurts in
Will you regret the transmission, when the DC needs maintenance? Is a service significantly more expensive? (Looking for a secondary low running cost/low maintenance bike.) Thanks.
Zach, I have bought and maintained two NC700X's. A manual and a DCT. When discussing daily rider machines you really need to put in MSRP as the GS is $20,000, fuel mileage, cost of maintenance or the ease of doing your own maintenance. If you included these which are important on a daily commuter that may have well put the NC in the number 1 or 2 position. The NC700X or DCTgets 70 mpg and in the mountains it goes to 80+. I would think the 750 is above 60. It would be nice to see a long term review on this and include the above categories. If you put on a good chain and oiler that would eliminate cost of a chain and sprocket replacement for 30,000 miles, the valves are easily adjustable by your average person who has the gumption to learn as they aren't shim over bucket. Yep a wrench, screwdriver and feeler guages. Air filter once done is easy. Sure you have to buy the centerstand to do these. Forks are no harder than any other. These things add value to a daily commuter or daikey rider as shops are charging over $100 an hour these days. I agree as a 6'3" rider that a taller windshield is a good thing. A two brothers exhaust or a DanMoto really makes those two cylinders sing. Nice and throaty. Frunk is wonderful. Put some GIVI bags and a trunk on it and this machine will tour all over and do it inexpensively. More storage than a Goldwing too!
I just bought a 2020 Africa Twin Adventure Sport DCT that I absolutely love but I think if I was a little older and didn't do as much off-road, this bike would be great! I love the frunk, so smart.
Proud owner of a 2018 model. Hands down, one of the best bikes I've ever owned. Great gas mileage, easy to maintain, and great utility. Currently getting 65mpg average with 90% highway(manual version). I just wish the gas tank was bigger.
@@petes_CE Yep the 16 ft/lbs. of torque or lack thereof is an acquired taste. Still I have loads of bikes up to a mile behind chasing me. I wait up at every intersection.
I am very much looking at the manual NC750X for my next bike but I am a boring dad and cruise around on a Trail 125 as my main bike currently. Performance is lost on me anyways.
Actually its very practical design. Scooters are not safe on higher speeds and this will definitely bridge the gap between comfort and motorbiking. Honda is my favorite in all Japanese brands. They think like consumers who actually need practical machines than beasts on two wheels. Very nice honda..
@@rayhan4502 Large wheels with more width provided better stability, grip and braking. Large wheel will cover more distances than the smaller one with the same RPM. And thick tyre will help you to more stabalize your vehicle. Larger wheels have an easier time negotiating obstacles - roughness on the road and timbers and crevasses on the trail. The larger the wheel, the more it can span holes and the easier time it has climbing over stuff.
I know I'm late, but to me it looks like this bike is the definition of a daily rider. Automatic transmission so you don't have to bother in the city, storage for helmet that you don't have to take with you to your desk or to put some groceries. Ideal to get to work, maybe a coffe or some shopping after and then home, over the weekend a small trip.
I currently own the 2021 model. It's my second one, after the 2014 I mistakenly sold. Both were six-speed manuals. Extremely versatile bike. and it's a Honda, so it's hard to break. I plan to keep this one awhile. If you really want to make it a keeper, upgrade the seat, fort springs, rear shock and windshield. It could use a little more power, but I know Hayabusa guys who say that too.
Bought a '21 NC750x (the manual version) as my first street bike a couple months back, I agree with pretty much everything you have to say about the bike. It's very neutral experience, it's not bad to ride but it definitely won't blow your socks off. However as a daily commuter it's perfectly suited for that role. My only real complaint about the bike would be the LCD display; if the sun even thinks about putting a little light near it I can't read it at all. The only time I think that display looks good is at night when it's lit up. Things I like about the bike; the styling and the frunk. I consider the bike more of a light tourer or a standard with some ADV styling ques, and as a new rider that spent most of my money on a down payment and gear I didn't exactly have the cash to spend on a Givi top box or a pair of saddle bags. When I ride, my Kryptonite chain, hat, phone, and mask go in there; when I get where I'm going that all comes out, the bike gets chained, and my bulky riding jacket goes in the frunk. Over all I like it for what I use it for, and if I could use an analogy to describe this bike it would be vanilla ice cream. Sure it isn't as interesting as some of the other choices you have available but, it's still going to be an enjoyable experience, even if it is the kinda plain and safe option.
Think I've just discovered my ideal motorcycle. Starting out on a scooter I find myself loving the simplicity of a twist and go machine. It doesn't win any races and it won't do anything cool, but the comfort and ease makes me focus on other things like the view. I see riding on 2 wheels as a sort pf therapy, and shifting just doesn't add anything that i personally want from the experience. Also love the storage, can't go wrong with more storage.
I've had two and done over 60,000 miles commuting on them. 70 mpg (UK), DCT for central London traffic, 80 mph cruising speed. If there's a better commuter bike I've never found it. Would I buy one for fun? Hell no.
After enduring just over 4 decades of bikelessness since riding my Honda 125 dirt bike for the last time as a kid, I am finally ready to buy my first street bike. My short-list began with an NC750X also approved as a decent "Daily Rider." 8 months later (& following a ton of research), I have come full circle and ending where I began - at the NC750. This bike has amassed quite a loyal following with literally tens of thousands of happy, dedicated fans worldwide. And with all of the compliments, criticisms and recommended modifications, I would agree that "thoughtful" is indeed the perfect word that captures the totality of its added value, best. This is the bike for me - just wish it came in black ( versus red - the only colour option in Canada).
I’ve been waiting for this review for years! I personally love the DCT. It has gotten better and better in every iteration from Honda. Also, they’ve lowered the seat height on this bike making it more accessible to shorter riders which is entirely under appreciated in most reviews. Shorter bikes mean more riders enjoying motorcycling. As with the rest of the world, making things more accessible is ALWAYS good for everyone.
Not necessarily. There was the NC750S for shorter riders, now we only have the lowered X so i reality they're now excluding the taller guys and we'll have to look elsewhere when we change next.
I love my Honda NM4 with DCT!!! The DCT is amazing and wonderful, that offers many benefits not immediately obvious to those not in the know, such as linear power delivery and improved mpg. It’s rare rally-race technology on a budget motorcycle! However, I think Honda missed the mark by not replacing the clutch lever under the left hand with a brake lever for the rear brake as is the convention on bicycles and scooters. Feels weird and awkward to not have any controls on the left side. Otherwise, DCTs are dream machines!
I rode a NT700V (Deauville) a few years back, bought a GS 1200 LC, then a KTM 1190, then used Vespa GTS's to commute. And now replaced them with this NC750 X DCT. I still have my ducati 916 and KTM 1190 Adventure. All in all really happy with the NC. Had it for five months now. It handles the daily grind with excellence. It's got lots of storage space, reasonably quick, reliable, relatively easy to clean, affordable, frugal on petrol and so easy to ride. It's very quite on the exhaust side, but when you're commuting a lot that's more of an advantage than an inconvenience. It can stand a nice little sequence of bends at high rythm, but it's clearly not what it was meant for. On the minus: seat can be seen as on the harsh side, wind protection ain't great (but perfectly doable -DON't BUT THE HIGH WINDSCREEN, it blows everything in your helmet), for tall guys like me (190cm) the leg angle is a tad too tight (I see Zach is also noticing this whilst being smaller), it could be a bit more torquey still, the brakes are calculated for solo commuting and not for duo touring or track day use (but then, the price is not that of a Ducati V2), the auto transmission is not as intuitive as you'd like (shifts on roundabouts, sometimes shifts too quickly, sometimes hangs to a gear too long for no reason) and my bike, as others, has had quite a lot of stalling issues on traffic lights. Especially on cold engine, but can happen after running for hours too. Quite annoying to have all those cars ready to start behind you, and you stalling like a learner. To summarize, if the NC 750 came with 20 horsepower more, a regular manual shifter with a perfect quickshifter system, it'd be the best commuting bike ever. The NC 750 is one of those bikes you like a lot because it never upsets you and allways does what you expect (well unless it pisses you off by stalling at the red light..). Just like you like the GS not for sheer passion, but for capability at doing what it's aimed for (which isn't commuting, Zach! the lady is too fat and expensive ), whilst if you just judge it on a few minutes riding you'll think its boring. the NC just makes life easy, every day. So yeah, it does spark joy. I ride 150+ hp bikes, but for every day, no one needs more than the NC. Replaces a car without any problem, especially with a 60 L givi top case on the back. And by the way, my Shoei NXR and Schubert C4 fit in the frunk without any issue
A very accessible bike for disabled rider. I was at my local bike workshop and got chatting with a guy who only had one arm and this is model of bike he rode
The 2021 is a huge improvement over the previous model. I was planning to buy one but bought a Rebel 1100 DCT because these are actually almost just as difficult to find in SoCal right now. I may still buy one later. It’s a great example of Honda engineering for a specific purpose that other manufacturers don’t.
I was so taken with the review of the Versey I chatted up my dealer I have a relationship with and checked it out. He recommended the Honda minus the DCT instead. He has treated me right for years and the fact he steered me to a less expensive machine than the Versey made me think he was legitimately trying to help me out. I think bottom line is he finds Honda's better to maintain. While I have spoken with many long time riders who like the DCT I would use the money I save for accessories, probably luggage.
Just a constructive criticism here: Please add conversion pop up notes when speaking of specs, I know I can look it up but I don't want to pause from the immersive experience to convert it.Of course unless 99% of the subscribers are from US and only I am from the outside 😘.
Thanks for sticking up for the automatic lovers! I loved manual bikes, but now that I have nerve damage in my left hand and can't even feel myself grabbing the clutch anymore, DCT's have kept me on two wheels.
Same here. A car cleaned me up on a roundabout and smashed my left hand. I can’t guarantee that I’ll be able to grip a clutch when I need to. Thank the Honda gods for DCT.
Thanks Zach, great content as always. It's clear that you're not a NC750X DCT fan, but its cool you weighed it on its own merits. I can't imagine how the Multistrada could possibly be a better daily commute to work bike than the NC750X DCT, but there you go. I'm a DCT fan. I've had the NC700X, Africa Twin, VFR1200X and Gold Wing all in DCT flavor and I dig them. It makes the most sense on the Gold Wing and NC750X, imo.
My friend bought one with DCT she really likes it....but will not give up her first bike (R3) which she does not feel comfortable on yet... her plan is to get used to riding and the traffic on the NC750X.. then get comfortable on the R3 with the shifting and riding position .. then wants to eventually get a Ducati sport bike!...Having never learned to drive a manual or riding a bike she struggled with the shifting and the traffic on the R3... she is very determined and I hope the NC750x will be a good stepping stone to her goals!... Great review! and great podcast with Itchy Boots!
I have been wanting to get my Wife into motorcycling. She is deaf and I was worried about her ability to shift gears. This may be a great option and I hope to see more DCT options. The more people we can introduce and get hooked on riding, the better.
Rode a NC700 a few years ago. That was the most dull and boring experience I have ever had on a motorcycle. But it is extremely practical. Seems like a clear winner for someone used to riding a scooter and does not want a scooter.
I will disclose a degree of bias as I have owned one of these over here in the UK for a good 6 months now - pretty much identical to this bike except it's blue. However I have come from a manual NC750S prior to this and have had a range of bikes. I think the NC is probably the best, pound for pound, all rounder on the market. It's got a combination of real, accessible usable grunt that can out drag almost any car and still keep up with most bikes at real world speeds. The new version is vastly sharper in the corners and has a better, more controlled ride than before. Yes, it isn't fast given its engine size but that's only really relevant for bragging rights discussions - it's still a pretty quick bike when you want it. This is balanced out by capability of up to 90mpg (UK) - I'm currently averaging 85mpg UK which is about 71mpg US and thats a 50/50 split of motorway, country and town use. The 'frunk' as owners call it, the front storage tank, makes it the most practical two wheeler this side of a scooter. The fairing and screen do a good enough job of keeping the weather off you. It can be fitted with enough luggage to rival the storage capacity of a small city car and carry it without any trouble. Super low centre of gravity makes the weight a non issue. The DCT is a bit marmite - but the new version better improved on older ones with the advent of the ride-by-wire throttle. I personally hated it first time I owned one (a 2017 750X, which preceded a 2019 manual S). However it has matured such that I genuinely don't ever think about it. It's unobtrusive, is always in the gear I would personally be in, is changeable and adaptable to your riding style. It allows me to concentrate on the act of riding which in our highly congested roads is super important. Manual still available if you prefer. I've done 1000 mile in a week tours on this bike since owning and it was more comfortable than some significantly bigger bikes I've owned. Seat is a bit rubbish to be fair so padded shorts useful. Only downsides - 1) As with all modern bikes it could do with some money spent on things to keep it in good nick. Rad guard, shock tube sort of thing. 2) body work is largely clipped together rather than screwed in requiring a lot of care when taking it apart. 3) fuel filler under pillion seat makes tie on rear luggage a pain in the ass. Hard luggage is preferable if you're doing lots of long distance riding.
Good balanced feedback. I have never ridden one but I'm thinking of trying one (I'm from UK and have a mixture of occasional long commute to lots of twisties).
Good balanced feedback. I have never ridden one but I'm thinking of trying one (I'm from UK and have a mixture of occasional long commute to lots of twisties).
@@andyhorton1472 really worth looking at for that application. Some owners find the suspension is a little bit harsh though is definitely better than the preceding version (I would agree, it’s not a sumptuous luxury barge). It’s still nominally within the lower to mid range price band and suspension components show it. Perfectly agile, actually quite capable of a hussle down the country lanes but something to be aware of. They aren’t for everyone but damn good bikes I’d they suit your needs. Good luck with the test.
To me this would be the “ultimate motorcycle” if it had a shaft drive or even a lower maintenance belt drive. I feel people like myself who would want this motorcycle…. Are more likely to be that type of person who does not have the mechanical inclination or desire to do regular chain maintenance.
I have a 2017 NC700X (no DCT, no ABS, etc) and as a shorter rider (5'4"), the move of the gas tank to below the seat is the best thing ever! It's comfortable enough for riding all day, and despite the actual weight, you can't feel it. I've even toured on it and the only thing I would say is that the front end is so light that the wind off the Pacific ocean was so fierce riding down Big Sur that it was just picking up my front end and moving me over to the "shoulder." (The "shoulder" was a little strip of dirt and gravel about 8 inches wide only so that was a bit scary.) Other than low quality tires from the factory, I never had a minute's trouble with mine. It's my "rain or shine" commuter for my 48 mile commute. I ride like the middle aged lady that I am and can get 70+ mpg.
Hey Zack…you know you do have a right side column on that leaderboard. Maybe put all the non-current/special bikes on the right in their own competition. Plus Dave would move up on the right…..
I’ve been using a 2018 Africa Twin Adventure Sports as my daily for 3 years. I’ve done tours, off-road, trails, pillion and we’ve had a great time. But. It is reaaaally top heavy and very high, even with the reduced height rally seat. I recently decided to get something more practical as a daily and just ordered one of these. It is a really surprising bike. You can’t judge it on its power figures. You really need to test one. So much low down grunt right from the get go. And it really feels quick and peppy on the twisties. Even reminds me of my old Tracer 700. And it’s absolutely nothing like a scooter. I rode scooters years ago and just didn’t appreciate the riding position or the light front end. And all those DCT haters, seriously, go try one. I’ve also got a 650 Bandit and an 1100 Pan European. I’ve ridden tons of other bikes. This one is by far the most surprising. In a good way. Which is why I bought one!
US car market is seeing the death of the manual transmission. That with the rapid growth of electric motorcycles that also don’t have a clutch. Decades from now, are we going to look back at Honda’s DCT as way ahead of its time?
@@hornetdc Mechanically I would agree with you. But I was thinking more of car companies slowly stopped making manual transmissions due to efficiency and ease of use. I was wondering if motorcycle companies would ever get to the point of removing traditional clutch transmissions because of similar reasons.
@@TheBawalumihidito If the companies want to sell more units, they need to offer automatics. Manual shifting is what keeps some folks from riding, and even many who currently ride don't want to constantly shift in city traffic.
@@georgeklimes7604 I agree, people act as if manual and DCT is mutually exclusive. There is a market segment for both and the prudent thing for Honda is not to try to slowly phase out manual bikes but try to expand the customer base by getting more people into riding, potentially through the DCT while offering manual bikes for the purist. I think the goal is to sell more bikes overall, not convert current manual transmission customers to DCT customers. The purists will look down on the DCT without thinking that this technology serves a purpose and is good for the motorcycle industry overall by providing people that physically cannot shift with a viable option, as well as encouraging more people to start riding that otherwise may not have done so. DCT riders may decide to advance to a manual bike which then opens the door to all motorcycles and brands so i am really shocked more companies do not offer automatics. Purists often don't think long-term growth and nuance, they only only react to the initial emotional response and think tradition is more important even if advancements equal greater consumer benefits.
I was skeptical of the DCT, but picked up a gently used Africa Twin with one on an excellent deal. I love it. The only time I think about it is off-road near a cliff. I wish it had a clutch to remove power from the rear wheel just in case…The NC750 would be my go to commuter bike if I lived down town.
You're in California, but if you live in a state where lane splitting isn't allowed, you'll appreciate that automatic transmission in stop and go rush hour traffic. I have an NM4 based off the nc700 and love it in Dallas traffic.
As an owner of the previous model in the UK, I'd say your review is scrupulously fair and balanced! I was looking at a scooter so interesting you got a question on that, my take was that the TMax is slower and costs about 50% so the NC was an easy choice. Best words to describe? Practical, utilitarian, honest. The sort of bike that used to sell before bikes were hobbies or toys. A modern take on a CX500/650 or NTV600/650 i think. Again very practical and worthy just not going to set your pants on fire. Does it make me go "Wow!" when i open the garage? No. But as a jack of all trades including touring round Europe? Yeah it'll do that and cost pennies. Next logical step up has to be the new NT1100!
I want to get a bike, and I want this to be my first. I don’t want a manual transmission, so sue me. Lets me focus on other things. Plus, that frunk. Genius.
Nice review. I'm always amazed as you (in US) drive automatic cars for so long and default automatic bikes. In Europe we drive manual geared cars and have no problem to drive dct bikes or scooters. 😂. Greetings.
I had to teach 3 separate young European ladies how to drive an automatic car when they got to the US. Very few people in the US under 25 can drive a manual car. They never have had to.
That really is an interesting observation! Haha. Car is for practicality/travel here in the US, motorcycles are purchased purely for fun 99% of the time. I guess we want that clutch engagement because we do not intend to use it for commuting. I guess it's why I see so many bikes for sale with 5000 miles on them.
I got this bike this last summer! Its so nice just jump on and go, no weird hyper sonic throttle torque like the Africa twin, just cruise at your own comfortable level
In Italy it's super popular! Lot of people want to upgrade from scooter but don't want to drop the convenience of an automatic transmission choose it. I personally have the 2012 NC700S with the manual trans, but i respect people who choose the dct, since it's excellent.
Some of the ratings, lately, have felt like recency bias. I can't imagine riding this back to back with either the Tiger or the Tenere and coming away wanting to ride this as a daily rider over either of them.
Zac.. you missed the best part of the dct trans...in any mode you can use the paddle shifters. So even in standard mode 2 or three clicks of the downshift paddle before a sweet curve and game on
Great review Zack! I bought a manual 2012 NC700X in 2013 and I love the bike and agree with you all the way. Before I bought this bike the largest bike I had ever owned was a 250. I have ridden this bike off road and it will do it but you are correct about the lack of suspension and being to heavy. So I am currently waiting for a CRF300 Rally to come in. As for gas mileage I average 70 mpg and when ridding conservatively under 50 mph I actually got as high as 90 mpg. I know some are going to say I am stretching the truth but I filled up before I left and filled when I returned with exactly 90 miles on the trip meter and could only get a gallon in the tank. I also want to say thank you again for High Side Low Side interview of Itchy Boots that made my day. I am editing this because the Honda shop just called to say that my CRF300 rally just came in. YAY
All motorcycles spark joy! And, you can change gears manually. It’s only the clutch that’s not manual on the DCT version. It’s an extremely popular bike in Europe.
Excellent video Zack. I predicted you would rank this at No. 6. I’m happy to see it landed one spot higher. I think this bike may be the one of the best-value-for-money bikes out there, at least for me. Your review here has made this bike even more interesting to me than it already was. Thank you for presenting this video.
I've done more than 25K miles on my 2016 nc750x and I can easily say it's a brilliant bike for daily commuting and more. I recently started living in the forest and the roads are all dirt, no asphalt. At first I was very skeptical about riding this bike on dirt roads. However, it turned out that with the right tyres the nc750x dct is surprisingly good off road as it is on road. My only issue with this bike is the seat height as I'm just over 6ft. It feels low after bmw 1200gs.
What a great test video. Being a lifelong Honda MC man, along with once owning an Accord and still running a 1987 Honda lawn mower (best ever), I would have to label this bike as the closest thing to a Honda Accord on two wheels. My current rides are a 1985 GL1200I, a '81 GL1100 Standard and a '72 CB450. This bike would be the closest match to the 450. Wet it is close to the weight at ~470#. Single disk front brake (make from wood), 44HP, and you really need to work the make the 450 pull a wheelie. Thanks for the information, it really makes sense.
I have a 23 Rebel 1100 DCT and can tell you that DCT is the future, like it or not. I personally wasn’t thrilled to get it (no manual available), and I must say I am glad I did. I ended up loving it, it is something you have to try for a few days and you’ll love it, the comfort is amazing, and since most people aren’t in a race every day, that DCT becomes a very good thing to have. Honda has mastered the DCT.
I have sinds 2013 a Honda Integra 700 DCT and it's my favourit bike ! No more worries about shifting and from what I heard : the new version prevents the DCT from shifting gears when taking a turn and the bike is not straight up. The best !
I have a 2012 NC700X DCT and it is great, just hit 20k miles and runs like it just rolled off the showroom floor. There is almost no maintenance, it sips fuel (67 to 71 mpg is what I get), it is easy to ride with a very low center of gravity, and the automatic transmission allows you to enjoy the ride more than a manual. The bike does not have the get up and go of a regular bike given the automatic transmission and the type of engine but unless you are trying to pop wheelies to impress exactly no one, then this bike has enough useable power for actual street riding. Don't be surprised though if you continue to grab for the clutch leaver and shifter years after you go automatic, old habits are really hard to break.
Personally I would have put it over the 1250GS for pure daily ride just due to cost. The NC is soooo much cheaper. But I thought the same thing about the Versys 650. They should be 1, 2, in my books. With maybe a CB500X and an INT 650 in the 3, 4, slots
I sold my mine because of its clunkiness in slow traffic (in Bangkok, that is how you ride most of the time. Sloooow). It is not very good in slow traffic because the transmission clunks in and out at low speeds making the ride jerky. My wife hated it because she was jerked around as the pillion passenger and kept headbutting me. The dealer said you can use the manual override in traffic to get over the clunkiness. What is the point of an automatic if you need to switch to manual when the traffic is slow? Easier just have a manual bike so you can use the clutch to smooth out your ride. On the plus side, the tank storage space and the low centre of gravity were great. Fuel consumption was also excellent considering it spent most of its life in traffic doing 20 to 30km an hour. Great bike for commuting long distances, provided you are not doing much low speed filtering.
Finally!!! I've got an (older) NC750X myself and I've been waiting for this review for a very long time. Not watched it yet but I bet at the end of the video the NC will be very high on the list. Now let's crack on! Thanks!
I'm surprised it didn't place higher, honestly. I was expecting a podium finish if not possibly topping the list. I at least expected it to beat the versys 650 as it tops it in almost every aspect of commuting ability and is cheaper.
@@sparkythewildcat97 amongst those first handful os spots it's just a matter of subjectivity. For me NC is better than a big and heavy GS, but not for Zack.
Hi all... I am geezer age...73.. had a 1970 750 Honda before entering Vietnam Service..it had 67 HP at 8,000 Rpm...electric start and front disk were the only "high tech " features of that time that I remember ..competition , limited but was, was Kawasaki 500 triple two stroke ..and oil leaking Harley's .. Triumphs.. and a few BSA's... Like living on a different planet with today's tech and features and product options available.. great for today's riders..wonderful tech progress it seems.. wouldn't want to go back to old tech..with half a century + calendar flips, lots of great improvements ..also enjoyed the review immensely! Thanks...safe riding to all!!
I am one of those DCT fans. But totally feel that to each their own. If you don't want a DCT, don't buy it. But be sure to try one before you diss it. My current 2018 Goldwing is a DCT and before that, had a DCT on my Africa Twin. Big fan...
Hello Zack .. It might be fun to add some more references to your list for each bike ... So far for sub categories you have a green dollar sign for expensive and a flame for hot and fast . How about a smiley face for bikes that just make you smile every time you ride them (Like the T7) or maybe a sleepy face for the Tiger 850 or the NC750.. Also maybe a blue E for economic as in great on gas and cheap to own .. Maybe a wrench for bikes that need a ton of up keep ..Maybe a suitcase or a box for storage ... PS when you go home to visit the fam could you do an interview with your dad on living with old BMW air heads . It would be a wonderful clip ... All the best , Guy
Agree. It really can't be a one dimensional measure since all of these do something special in different categories however I think for what the rider board is it a pretty decent overall rating system.
@@georgegarcia3182 Me too / I agree.. :) Zack is doing a wonderful job .The fact that each bike is put through just the same ride and shown at whatever strengths or weaknesses are found in each section is just great ...
As someone who runs a Vespa GTS 300 on highway runs between the Jersey Shore and NYC (and enjoys it), I was curious about this review, as I remember *Cycle* magazine's first review of the first Hondamatic 750 from the late 70s, with the tagline "we're all shiftless bastards now". As much as I enjoyed rowing five-speeds on the dirt in my semi-crazed late-teens and early twenties, "twist-n-go" has a few nice bits to say about it, particularly in urban environs, where constant low-speed gear changes get old pretty fast, unless you're on a happily-lugging big single or V-twin; the GTS is fine at most any rev point, pulling happily when needed. (Full disclosure: the powertrain's had a little help of late from a Malossi upgrade to the drive belt and variatior after some 20k miles, where it now pulls even harder and quicker.) The House that Soichiro Built has always been a bit ahead of the curve, generally speaking, and this is no exception: if you want to shift for yourself, they still do it as well as anyone else, but they also know that if you want to put more butts on two wheels, you'll need to offer something more, which is why they've stuck to improving "shiftless" bikes. (And, yes, there's even a two-speed electric bike out there, but *it's not necessary.*)
Interesting after so many years that's people are still amazed about this motorcycle because I'm not. I love my nc750x DCT which by the way has over 239,000 km over 5 years riding all over Southeast Asia based in Thailand. I use that off road on road and try to stay off highways as much as possible as I prefer more scenic routes. Mine is a 2015 and is the second generation of DCT which in my estimation is a brilliant technology and I've had no issues with my transmission. It's taking me to Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Vietnam, Malaysia, all over Thailand and some special trips to China including a 30-day adventure to Everest camp in Tibet and back to Bangkok. I've gone through 16 sets of tires, numerous chain and sprockets, and standard maintenance. I really enjoy this motorcycle and it ticks all my boxes
Wow, that is an impressive amount of riding in such a short time! That's about 148k miles for my other USA people out there.
You are the man Mike! I've followed some of your adventures, and you're the perfect ambassador for the bike. Honda should gift you a new one as a thanks for all the ones you've sold indirectly. Ride On Brother!
@@norsefalconer thank you for your kind words , Ride Safe
Jesus. That's an average of 130 km pr day, every day for those 5 years. You get some riding done. XD
Wow 🥺😳🥺...
The 2 wheeled Honda Accord. And yeah, it's supposed to be a compliment.
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Unfortunately there's a lot of idiots, that snub and mock this model of bike. there's a lot of people that like the dct trans. I myself have both legs with torn acl's and injuries from playing soccer and cycling wildly, ( mtb).
So there's definitely a use for this type of machine. Is practical, don't look bad, at all, economical, and seems to be fun, even that is proven to not be fast. I agree with your comment 👍
Like a 2 wheeled honda accord!!
I almost Forgot, best part is that it has The FRUNK!!
I have a '13 NC700X with DCT. I think your comment is spot on! And not an insult at all! (though I dunno if it's exactly a compliment. haha)
@@busterinny4808 The Accord is one hell of a car for the everyday normal person, the coupe with the manual is even unironically dope.
@@cocoloco65482 I fully agree. I had an accident in April that tore both the ACL and MCL of my left leg so this bike is a literal godsend for me. I also drive a Honda Civic so I may as well have a 2 wheeled version of it! LOL
I still think that storage compartment is one of the best pieces of motorcycle design I’ve seen
The BMW F650SC Scarver had it way earlier altho i don't know if you could fit a helmet in that.
You can fit 2x full size standard helmets under the seat of a Suzuki AN400 K1, or a 24 can crate of beer ;)
Can you guess I'm lookng at the NC750x to change to... hehe
@@jfv65 anche l'aprilia MANA lo aveva ma non ci stava un casco
I would definitely do manual mode for any offroad use to be able to select correct gears for climbs or slow maneuvers
Whoever says this bike is dorky or for women, well those kind people will find fault with anything that makes them feel superior to others, if it wasn't the bike, itd be your outfit or your car or something,
This bike is an absolute universal utilitarian marvel especially when you consider price an practicality, its a bike anyone in the family can use and even experienced riders can have lot of easy-going fun!! And it look freaking great!!
I recently purchased a 2023 NC750X with DCT for backroad cruising around Florida. My husband borrowed it to make a run to the store. I will say that I have never received such enthusiastic texts or seen such a smile on his face when he rides his ZX-14. While he loves his bike, he said he was surprised how much fun the NC750X was and how nice it was to have the DCT vs shifting through town. Oh, and he had to take a picture of the two cartons of 18 XL eggs he fit in the frunk! LOL!
In similar fashion to a manual transmission in a car, the parking brake on my NC750 doubles as a sleeper security system as many have no clue how to move the bike once I've engaged it. Take a permanent marker and black out the red ring on the parking brake button and you're golden.
Sneaky, sneaky. I approve!
I dont see why anyone would want to take it anyway, and that's a good thing!
Just slap a DCT sticker on it will ensure it never gets stolen
@@funkthat And a milk crate on the back
@@funkthat whats wrong w/ the DCT? seems like a fun nimble bike
I had one of these (1st gen, 700cc's) with a manual transmission. Extremely low fuel consumption, low center of gravity and really practical. Perfect for commuting in a country with high fuel prices and bad road conditions. Cheers from Portugal.
High fuel prices and bad road conditions?
You just described conditions here in Montreal, Canada to a T.
Going to look into getting one!
Verdade. Em Portugal qualquer dia só se consegue andar com motas de aventura, tal o mau estado do piso. Abc
@@mtlnascarfan California, as well.
@@mtlnascarfan would you pay ~2,5 CAD/l for gas, if so WTF= welcome to finland
@@Kauppamopo Holy crap. You have my condolences 😳
One thing I've never heard anyone mention in this review is the amazing steering geometry. You can scrape the pegs easily. It recovers awesome in a slide. You can stand on the pegs to ease an aching butt. It's cheap to run. Cheap to maintain. It's handling is amazing, even with the mediocre suspension. I'm 6'3 and it hauls me around all day at 80 miles per hour with no drama.
Great to hear- I'm considering buying one!
Thanks I'm 6'4" tall and was wondering how it would be riding.
6.2 and worried about eating my knees and losing sensation in my legs.
For some reason, I find it difficult to imagine riding an automatic bike. What is that like? Is it still fun to ride without the constant manual manipulation?
@@randybuck2320 I'm 6'3" an it feels cramped when first getting on, but OTOH, I did not bother to install the drop footpegs I bought (yet). Legs folded underneath doesn't seem to bug me. Seat is soso for a skinny butt, but fidgeting helps. In towns, I sit back on the pillion seat and drive for a while to switch things up. I put about 1600 mi on a brand new one in 3.5 weeks, returning rider after multi-decade lapse. Love this machine. Feels safe, never surprises you, that frunk makes hauling groceries easy (a LOT will fit in there), and I get about 80mpg out of it. Wish it had cruise, but one of those throttle palm levers fixed 80% of my issues there.
I think you'd meet the nicest people on this bike
[Waves] Why thank you :)
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Zack's daily rider reviews are so good I'll even watch the ones about bikes I have absolutely zero interest in.
Same haha
Ha - at least you know you are not alone
Can't agree with this enough
Like this.
Absolutely! Zack’s enthusiasm for motorcycles is contagious!
What I don't understand is folks are all raging about quick shifters, but rag on automatic or semi automatic, WTF??? All these cases don't use clutch. DCT having both full auto or paddle shift. Paddle shift is like using a quick shifter but instead of your feet shifting your hand does it. DCT is much smoother and faster compared to a quickshifter so why do folks rag on DCT and rage about quickshifter??? If these folks are so lazy about not using the clutch they should be thrilled in not having to shift at all with full auto or much quicker, smoother and easier with a paddle DCT shifting. A quickshifter so satisfying but a semi-auto or full auto not, WTF???
Totally agree. I have a NC750X DCT. It gives you such a relaxed and safer ride and has ample power. Beats me what the "macho" dislike of DCT is all about. I can well imagine that other manufacturers will eventually follow Honda's lead.
Is this a good motorcycle for commuting if I don’t know how to shift/use a manual? Can I ride it like a car with an automatic transmission? I don’t know anyone with a motorcycle around me so I can’t even practice with a manual. A motorcycle is cheaper than a car and I wouldn’t have to ride the bus everywhere if I want to leave campus
@@JacksonWalter735 Motorcycles have high maintenance intervals so it might not be cheaper if you pay for service, but if you DIY it can be. Best if you get a scooter, would be even lower cost and even easier to ride. You sound like you still a student. I would recommend a 150cc scooter. Everything about it is lower cost, from buying to insurance to operating/maintenance. A good condition used car like a Toyota Yaris or Corolla is lower cost than a motorcycle but not a scooter.
The best explanation of DCT I've heard so far.
I don't want one, but as a "daily rider" it's brilliant.
I want one. And with gas creeping over 5 dollars. I really want one.
One of the better explanations I've heard. Basically, it's a clutchless 6-speed gearbox. It's not a CVT, nor is it a traditional automatic transmission, which would have a torque converter. In traditional autos/CVTs, when you let off the throttle, it coasts. There is no coasting in a DCT - you actually feel the engine braking. On my 2020 Africa Twin DCT, the level of engine braking is adjustable, with 4 levels to choose from. As a lower cost entry, I also noticed the NC does not have "Sport Modes," as the Africa Twin does. The "D" button on the ATwin, engages SI, SII, and SII, three levels of sport mode you can cycle through buy long-pressing the "D" button for a second or so, which is labelled "D/S" on the ATwin. I also noticed the NC has no lever on the left handlebar, where the ATwin has a lever there, with an extra long reach, which is the parking brake. Last thing, I checked the accessories and it's not offered on the NC, but there is an optional dealer/user installed gear shifting lever for the ATwin DCT ,so you can manually row the gears, instead of the bike doing it. Both bikes do offer a manual mode, just left of the "D" button, but you can also always interrupt and switch gears even in D or S1 - S3 mode, by using the foot shift lever if installed, or the trigger pair on the left handle bar. After 6 months on the ATwin, I don't know if I want to go back - the Honda DCT, at least on an Africa Twin, offers the best of both worlds!!
I bought my first DCT bike this year and I love it. Started riding in 68 and like so many others I said I would never own a bike with DCT but after riding 5000 miles so far I am in love. You can still change gears manually with a push of a button. Face facts this is no different than F1 cars. In sport mode it changes gears like a pro. Stay on the gas and it will redline in every gear. Try one before saying no to the DCT.
you started riding in 68 years old?you havent ride a motorcycle in your whole life?
@@thodoris3790 you must not be able to read.
I agree, todays automatics shift far better than most people ever will & as you said, when F1 cars & traditionally manual only sports cars are auto then at least give it an honest try. I've read other DCT reviews & even die-hards (riding since 1968) admit that especially in sport mode, it is really that good. Thanks for your comment.
@@triumphrider2002 I just heard that 54% of Americans read at 6th grade level or lower. Can it be true?
@@shoechew Most definitely !!!But don't blame the ex-students, look at the school- system !!!!
My first bike was the NC700X DCT. As a new rider I loved not having to worry about shifting as it kept my focus on other areas of learning to ride. My friend, a rider of 30 years, also purchased the DCT Rebel 1100 and absolutely loves it. Also knowing someone with Parkinson’s and carpal tunnel who can’t pull the clutch anymore, the automatic function allows him to keep riding.
That is awesome. Glad to hear your friend is still riding.
fantastic!
Awesome that your friend has the option!
Yes, the NC700/750 seems like a perfect gateway drug to lure new riders into our world.
@@Miata822 It will likely be my first real motorcycle. I might decide I want more later, and once I sell my manual mx-5 I might decide I miss manual transmissions and want a manual motorcycle, but for now having at least one vehicle I'm not forced to shift is appealing. That storage is the killer feature for me, though. It'd be hard for me to regress in that regard from my moped.
Honda unapologetically thinks outside the box, and that’s what I love about the brand. If I had a stable of bikes, I bet, more often than not, the NC750X would get the nod; especially in terms of ‘Daily Commuting. The synergy of practicality and low end torque is oddly satisfying.
Yes they do ... PC800
People like you are the reason why Honda is boring. Their buyers primarily consist of goody two shoes who wear a white shirt, jeans and New Balance comfort shoes. Look, I understand you want something practical and comfortable but don’t try to be so utilitarian with everything. Motorcycles are meant to arouse, not be toneless tools.
@@lastingeffort6775 it’s a vehicle that ANYONE can use , honda doesn’t make these just for you, they want everyone to buy their bikes and cars lmfao
@@lastingeffort6775 “meant to arouse” cringe af gtfo😂😂
@@lastingeffort6775 meant to arouse? I think you’ve had too many blue pills.
Every time I see a motorcyclist with a quick up/down shifter, they say it's great that you don't have to use the clutch.. not a far cry from an automatic IMO.
Eh we all settle for a level convenience or everyone would still be jogging. I guess the difference is you still have the option to choose your gear with quickshifts and not be forced into wtv the computer wants.
I feel like the purpose of a QS is very different. Definitely track oriented. I personally turn it off on the road as I prefer to blip the throttle myself when downshifting but on track when braking and downshifting at the same time the bike is so much more stable with the quickshifter specially when downshifting 3 gears down within few seconds.
Yeah, I'm definitely not saying that they are the same.. just not enough of a difference for people to be going up in arms about. Don't like it, don't buy it and whatnot
Not that you have to use the clutch in the first place on most bikes.
Not having to use clutch =/= not having to shift
Perfect California commuter bike, small enough to lane split easily, enough power to handle the freeway without issue, the extra storage, and super fuel efficient.
This is what I suspected. Thanks for confirming
yeah I'm gonna get one this coming year to replace my yamaha xmax 300
This was my first bike. Had it in manual. Absolutely loved commuting on it, the front trunk is amazing and it handles like a dream because of a low center of gravity,
That frunk makes it a real commuter bike. It'll fit a subway sandwich and a 20oz coke without issue. I'm constantly taking mine (2020, previous model) to grab a this or that and have no worries about where I'm going to put that pint of ice cream or small bag of groceries. It's the New Balance dad shoe of motorcycles. And that's WHY it's so good.
I currently have the nc700s manual as my first bike. I've been riding it 2 years. Planned to upgrade to something faster after the first year but.. It's just so dam good for getting to work and back I don't want to get rid of it! It fits my L helmet, my work laptop (a surface), or 12 beer. So cheap to run too.
@@jsherck I'm 51, a new rider and as i sit here staring at my comfortable as fuck, white on white wide width NB kicks, your last 2 sentences have spoken to me .... i have some decisions to make :)
Thank You!
if bikes like this will bring new users to the two-wheel life I am down with it. Less traffic, less pollution, more awareness on bikers, more parking... it's a win-win. :)
Also, I think the maxi-scooters market is converging with the motorcycle market, which is not bad. I would probably consider the Honda X-ADV 750 if it was available on the US market.
Instead of government incentives for electric cars we need incentives on this, scooters, and ebikes. our city sprawl in the U.S. would be less awful. But we’re not that smart
@@Jharfouch Very true. Electric is the future but electric cars are no better than any other cars. Motorcycles themselves pollute more than cars but this is counteracted by less congestion, less wear on the roads and if more people rode bikes the road network could downsize. Which saves money and creating the roads pollutes a lot.
Even if we don't care about pollution more people on bikes is better for their mental health. Cars fuck people up in more ways than one. They run them over, pollute the air and ruin their minds.
People don't need big heavy bikes these days
So at the end of the video, the NC750 makes it into the top 5 on the Daily Rider leaderboard - but every time I watch one of these videos, I feel like the mid-size bikes are usually being disparaged as not having enough horsepower and torque. This may just be the way I hear your comments but I feel like mid-size and smaller bikes are discussed in terms of how they compare to larger motorcycles. I have owned 18 different motorcycles. Yes I compare and contrast them to one another, but I never expect the smaller bikes to stack up against the larger bikes in terms of power. Instead, I am more interested in how I fit on the bike, how the bike fits the riding style it was designed for and how the bike meets my expectations for what it is. Is it possible to make a Daily Rider video about mid-size or smaller displacement motorcycles without contrasting them with bikes that have more horsepower and torque? A bike with a DCT transmission in my world would rate higher on the leader board than a bike that has the ability to do a wheelie - but then I do not feel the need to do many wheelies on my daily ride.
This is one of my 3 bikes. I ride it most, not because I don't know how to ride manual ( 2 of my bikes are manuals), not because in lazy, but because it allows me to just enjoy the ride and see my surroundings rather than figuring out what gear to be in on a turn or making sure I need to be on the clutch or neutral gear. It just makes riding fun in a different way. Now my vtx1800f3... is a different fun compared to my CHonda Grom SF.
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Is that really something you need to think about as someone who is experienced enough to own 3 bikes? It should be coming naturally by now bro
@@louisross2919 i think you're missing the point. Even if one does things "automatically" they still need doing. With DCT and this engine you just relaxed all the time, and just happy riding.
As a current DCT rider, I DO NOT RECOMMEND DCT to beginners for 3 reasons.
1) Whiskey throttling
There is nothing to cut power to the bike. The user needs to completely understand and respect how sensitive throttle responses can be. An ignorant full twist of the wrist can easily send the rider into orbit.
2) low speed maneuvers (beginners worst enemy)
Where you would be normally feathering the clutch and controlling how much power you give the bike, you can’t with a DCT. Which means you have to work more attentively to keep the motorcycle from running away from you when doing tasks such as tight u-turns. This usually involves pinning the rear brake at particular intervals which takes skill to get it right even for seasoned riders.
3) traction during turns
A bike has the most traction when the suspension is loaded with either throttle or brake. DCTs cannot perceive road conditions like the human eye and have a habit of shifting at wrong times during turns which momentarily unloads the suspension and can cause you to slip. It’s uncommon but it does happen occasionally. It can be quite jarring.
DCT is great technology and is commonly misunderstood in the motorcycle world. It is very practical and convenient when used correctly. But in my opinion, it does take a bit more knowledge of how riding works to use it effectively when compared to a traditional manual transmission.
I personally enjoy my DCT and do not regret getting one. I was skeptical at first until I rode one for the first time. It was a blast with lots of smiles.
I never heard these arguments against a DCT for newbies but they all make perfect sense. An electric would probably be better
Hey Danny, I got a Rebel 1100 DCT as my first motorcycle, this is my experience
1) Whiskey Throttling - There are 4 ride modes available : Normal, Sport, Custom, and Rain. I started in Rain and that greatly reduces throttle sensitivity. I actually had more challenges with whiskey throttling on a manual transmission due to having to remember to use both clutch and throttle. It takes a while to develop the muscle memory to control both and with the DCT it's just easier. Too much power, on the DCT just let go of throttle just like you would a clutch and throttle.
2) Rain mode helps greatly with low speed maneuvers, on the DCT I practiced heavily on figure 8's and sharp turns from a stop in prep for my new rider course at Harley Davidson. Felt comfortable on a traditional motorcycle and the DCT, both were fine. On the DCT you learn to go easy on the throttle and on the manual you learn to feather the throttle and clutch.
3) Have to heartily disagree on this one , one of the best things about the DCT is running into a corner and the ability to adjust speed without worrying about what gear to enter in, what gear to change into if you get it wrong. At no point in my riding has my Rebel ever "unloaded the suspension," corners are extremely smooth in the DCT and I go looking for for roads with corners. I don't enjoy highway miles, I enjoy the twisties.
With that being said, it is fun running through the gears on a manual transmissions. I do plan on getting a second bike and that will be a manual.
@@bhdutt great points! Unfortunately, older DCT models with non-electronic throttles don’t have riding modes to compensate.
These were just small things I noticed after going from manual motorcycles to the DCT. Each choice has its pros and cons and will do better at different things than the other.
I do not dismiss the DCT, it is wonderful technology and makes a lot of sense for some people. It unapologetically serves a niche in the motorcycle community and does it well. Who could hate on that? Personally though, my next bike will be a manual again. DCT is just a crutch I never needed.
Yes, it's very pedestrian, however some people want this, and it is quite suitable for urban commuting. I would never choose an automatic transmission, however it's fine if others want to so long as I have the option to stay manual.
Pedestrian in the sense of being quicker than 95% of cars? It's not just an urban commuter either.
A "standard" do everything bike. No faults.
Love the RUclips handle. reminds me of when my kids watch the Wiggles
Trust me, this DCT does everything you can do, but better.
well said!
Honda DCT in manual mode is awesome. It shifts so easy and fast! I have a Rebel 1100 DCT, and it’s easy to do 0-60 in 3 seconds without much of a wheelie 🤣. I do not really care for automatic mode, but I love manual mode more than a manual clutch and shift or a quick shifter.
Me too!
Once you become an Old Fart like me, you will appreciate Auto Transmission,, Manual is for younger whipper snappers...
I wish they had one of these on their smaller displacement bikes. I don't have a need for a 750 and I personally look at a 6,000 dollar motorcycle and say 'That is really expensive' so needless to say a 9,000 dollar bike is a no go. I am looking at getting a Versys 300 and if Honda had one of these in that bracket that'd be great.
Clutchless transmissions will bring in more riders to the hobby. Motorcycles are somewhat of a hobby as most USA people also own a car. Motorcycles almost a luxury in many cases.
I wouldn't mind having a DCT bike as a daily. I feel the euro crowd has always been on something with that notion.
@@petedavis1040 just the scooter/moped crowd. Automatic cars even, are just now the last 2 years being popular, more so than manual transmissions. I’d say that where i live, if someone bought a dct bike, it would have to be a real super touring person.
Yeah I agree I hope dct’s bring more people into the motorcycle world especially with today’s fuel prices
Clutchless? 8-) This bike has two clutches, just not a clutch that you have to operate!
My first bike is a gently used NC I got from a coworker. I beat the piss out of it, but it's a Honda....I'm no match lol
27k on my '16 NC700x DCT so far, like Zach says it may not be the most exciting bike in the world, but it gets shit done. Zero problems in that time period. Heated grips, rear case, seat concepts seat, Kaoko throttle stabilizer make it a cruising machine. Racetech springs, gold valves and Ohlins rear shock addressed all suspension issues...
This bike gets no respect. Such an awesome design.
Yeah it's pretty brilliant. If people need something to commute with its brilliant. The high torque motor is a smart match. Having the weight down so low would hide the weight when moving. Obviously you'll feel it at a stop but even then it's probably easier to keep balanced than a similar sized and weighted bike with a standard upright motors.
This bike is brilliant.
Agreed. These are fantastic bikes and the rest of the world understands them better than the US market. But this generation is looking to change that. They have been selling well and the DCT is hard to find especially in SoCal.
Just like the Pacific Coast.
@@johnthomas2485 Yes, I own one.
Whenever people talk about the DCT, they seem to suggest it's mostly good for people who can't use a manual, but I just find it interesting. I daily a manual non-abs Miata, and I would choose the DCT ABS model just to have something different. I also consider an automatic to be a (slight) safety feature. Of all the motorcycles I see, this is one of the few that feels like a true upgrade from a scooter. Most others seem to forget practicality or are quite large.
As with cars, it provides the choice between manual or auto...which has to be a good thing
How does this motorcycle anger ANY person? It does EXACTLY what it sets out to do. It does not tell a single lie in its marketing material or styling, it does not trick, endanger or fool anyone.
Just bought one a week ago. Possibly the last one in the Northeast of the US. The next closest one was in TN.
Can't believe it isn't more popular. Excellent, excellent commuter. A lot more fun than I thought. I thought it was going to be really slow, and not fun... what are people smoking? The power is more than adequate, the low center of gravity makes it easy and even fun to manuever. I'm in love.
Too many ego riders out here in the US. That’s one of the reasons I prefer watching euro reviews with exception to Zacks Daily ride of course.
this is the bike to buy with your head not with your heart.
Scooter and bike, the best of both worlds. 99% of the people use bikes to commute not for traveling and here is unbeatable.
Being careful I have done 70 mpg and even 80 mpg . Nothing beats that for commuting where cost is a main factor
I have a Kawasaki Vulcan and NC 750 x DCT. I love them both.
That is highly logical .
It is a pleasure to see the leaderboard and how bikes that normally get no love are able to tower over the hotrods and expensive toys.
Now if they gave this thing a belt drive to cut maintenance even more!
Totally. I have a 2012 version and that is my wish too. Belt drive!!!!!
Why not shaft drive?
@@TheBasil36 weight and cost and power loss. Belt drive is a better and cheaper on mid size bikes
Belt drive doesn't have less maintenance you just trade a hand-full of small jobs for a big job down the road. It is one of those 'next owner' issues though I suppose I can see how people would see belt drives as maintenance free*.
This transmission is brilliant. Especially on the goldwing. Especially in town and in traffic. Especially on the Blueridge parkway. The NC750 x seat is horrible. Just horrible. Cement is softer. Everything else is brilliant.
Yep. One of the first mods on my NC was the seat. I'll never understand how I can spend 3hrs on my riding mower in perfect comfort, but my butt hurts in
Lots of owners that have tried the 2021 model say the seat is now fixed, older model it was hard and had a bad slope.
Agreed. With tequila. The seat on my X sucks. I need to look for an upgraded because I won’t part with the bike.
Not the 2022
Will you regret the transmission, when the DC needs maintenance? Is a service significantly more expensive? (Looking for a secondary low running cost/low maintenance bike.) Thanks.
Zach,
I have bought and maintained two NC700X's. A manual and a DCT. When discussing daily rider machines you really need to put in MSRP as the GS is $20,000, fuel mileage, cost of maintenance or the ease of doing your own maintenance. If you included these which are important on a daily commuter that may have well put the NC in the number 1 or 2 position. The NC700X or DCTgets 70 mpg and in the mountains it goes to 80+. I would think the 750 is above 60. It would be nice to see a long term review on this and include the above categories. If you put on a good chain and oiler that would eliminate cost of a chain and sprocket replacement for 30,000 miles, the valves are easily adjustable by your average person who has the gumption to learn as they aren't shim over bucket. Yep a wrench, screwdriver and feeler guages. Air filter once done is easy. Sure you have to buy the centerstand to do these. Forks are no harder than any other. These things add value to a daily commuter or daikey rider as shops are charging over $100 an hour these days.
I agree as a 6'3" rider that a taller windshield is a good thing. A two brothers exhaust or a DanMoto really makes those two cylinders sing. Nice and throaty. Frunk is wonderful. Put some GIVI bags and a trunk on it and this machine will tour all over and do it inexpensively. More storage than a Goldwing too!
A bike that is much better than the sum of its individual parts. It great smooth light handling bike for real world riding.
I just bought a 2020 Africa Twin Adventure Sport DCT that I absolutely love but I think if I was a little older and didn't do as much off-road, this bike would be great! I love the frunk, so smart.
Proud owner of a 2018 model. Hands down, one of the best bikes I've ever owned. Great gas mileage, easy to maintain, and great utility. Currently getting 65mpg average with 90% highway(manual version). I just wish the gas tank was bigger.
My 300 Versys has the same gas milage and a 4.5 gallon tank
@@kd350 awesome range! Considered the Versys, but the ease of maintenance from the NC750X won me over.
@@petes_CE Yep the 16 ft/lbs. of torque or lack thereof is an acquired taste. Still I have loads of bikes up to a mile behind chasing me. I wait up at every intersection.
I am very much looking at the manual NC750X for my next bike but I am a boring dad and cruise around on a Trail 125 as my main bike currently. Performance is lost on me anyways.
Same! Using the Trail 125 currently, and considering this next
Actually its very practical design. Scooters are not safe on higher speeds and this will definitely bridge the gap between comfort and motorbiking.
Honda is my favorite in all Japanese brands. They think like consumers who actually need practical machines than beasts on two wheels.
Very nice honda..
@Diesel S. And to think Honda makes the Forza 750 with the same motor as a scooter. fiddlesticks about scooters not being safe on highways.
@@dukeloo non maxi scooters aren't safe on the highway.
@@dukeloo Small tires, always less safe than big tires, its just basic science.
@@RaunakPSingh whats the science behind that
@@rayhan4502 Large wheels with more width provided better stability, grip and braking.
Large wheel will cover more distances than the smaller one with the same RPM. And thick tyre will help you to more stabalize your vehicle.
Larger wheels have an easier time negotiating obstacles - roughness on the road and timbers and crevasses on the trail. The larger the wheel, the more it can span holes and the easier time it has climbing over stuff.
I know I'm late, but to me it looks like this bike is the definition of a daily rider. Automatic transmission so you don't have to bother in the city, storage for helmet that you don't have to take with you to your desk or to put some groceries. Ideal to get to work, maybe a coffe or some shopping after and then home, over the weekend a small trip.
I currently own the 2021 model. It's my second one, after the 2014 I mistakenly sold. Both were six-speed manuals. Extremely versatile bike.
and it's a Honda, so it's hard to break. I plan to keep this one awhile. If you really want to make it a keeper, upgrade the seat, fort springs, rear shock and windshield. It could use a little more power, but I know Hayabusa guys who say that too.
Bought a '21 NC750x (the manual version) as my first street bike a couple months back, I agree with pretty much everything you have to say about the bike. It's very neutral experience, it's not bad to ride but it definitely won't blow your socks off. However as a daily commuter it's perfectly suited for that role. My only real complaint about the bike would be the LCD display; if the sun even thinks about putting a little light near it I can't read it at all. The only time I think that display looks good is at night when it's lit up. Things I like about the bike; the styling and the frunk. I consider the bike more of a light tourer or a standard with some ADV styling ques, and as a new rider that spent most of my money on a down payment and gear I didn't exactly have the cash to spend on a Givi top box or a pair of saddle bags. When I ride, my Kryptonite chain, hat, phone, and mask go in there; when I get where I'm going that all comes out, the bike gets chained, and my bulky riding jacket goes in the frunk. Over all I like it for what I use it for, and if I could use an analogy to describe this bike it would be vanilla ice cream. Sure it isn't as interesting as some of the other choices you have available but, it's still going to be an enjoyable experience, even if it is the kinda plain and safe option.
Think I've just discovered my ideal motorcycle. Starting out on a scooter I find myself loving the simplicity of a twist and go machine. It doesn't win any races and it won't do anything cool, but the comfort and ease makes me focus on other things like the view. I see riding on 2 wheels as a sort pf therapy, and shifting just doesn't add anything that i personally want from the experience. Also love the storage, can't go wrong with more storage.
I've had two and done over 60,000 miles commuting on them. 70 mpg (UK), DCT for central London traffic, 80 mph cruising speed. If there's a better commuter bike I've never found it. Would I buy one for fun? Hell no.
Yeah it's not a thrill ride. But if you're an accountant then the 60-70mpg might give you a huge rush.
What happened to the 1st one? I'd expect these bikes to handle that kind of mileage well.
@@IslandTosh I traded it in for a new one after 50,000 miles
@@jsherck if going places and seeing new things is your thrill. Then this bike will do that well.
After enduring just over 4 decades of bikelessness since riding my Honda 125 dirt bike for the last time as a kid, I am finally ready to buy my first street bike. My short-list began with an NC750X also approved as a decent "Daily Rider." 8 months later (& following a ton of research), I have come full circle and ending where I began - at the NC750. This bike has amassed quite a loyal following with literally tens of thousands of happy, dedicated fans worldwide. And with all of the compliments, criticisms and recommended modifications, I would agree that "thoughtful" is indeed the perfect word that captures the totality of its added value, best. This is the bike for me - just wish it came in black ( versus red - the only colour option in Canada).
I’ve been waiting for this review for years! I personally love the DCT. It has gotten better and better in every iteration from Honda. Also, they’ve lowered the seat height on this bike making it more accessible to shorter riders which is entirely under appreciated in most reviews. Shorter bikes mean more riders enjoying motorcycling. As with the rest of the world, making things more accessible is ALWAYS good for everyone.
Not necessarily. There was the NC750S for shorter riders, now we only have the lowered X so i reality they're now excluding the taller guys and we'll have to look elsewhere when we change next.
I love my Honda NM4 with DCT!!! The DCT is amazing and wonderful, that offers many benefits not immediately obvious to those not in the know, such as linear power delivery and improved mpg. It’s rare rally-race technology on a budget motorcycle! However, I think Honda missed the mark by not replacing the clutch lever under the left hand with a brake lever for the rear brake as is the convention on bicycles and scooters. Feels weird and awkward to not have any controls on the left side. Otherwise, DCTs are dream machines!
I rode a NT700V (Deauville) a few years back, bought a GS 1200 LC, then a KTM 1190, then used Vespa GTS's to commute. And now replaced them with this NC750 X DCT. I still have my ducati 916 and KTM 1190 Adventure. All in all really happy with the NC. Had it for five months now. It handles the daily grind with excellence. It's got lots of storage space, reasonably quick, reliable, relatively easy to clean, affordable, frugal on petrol and so easy to ride. It's very quite on the exhaust side, but when you're commuting a lot that's more of an advantage than an inconvenience. It can stand a nice little sequence of bends at high rythm, but it's clearly not what it was meant for. On the minus: seat can be seen as on the harsh side, wind protection ain't great (but perfectly doable -DON't BUT THE HIGH WINDSCREEN, it blows everything in your helmet), for tall guys like me (190cm) the leg angle is a tad too tight (I see Zach is also noticing this whilst being smaller), it could be a bit more torquey still, the brakes are calculated for solo commuting and not for duo touring or track day use (but then, the price is not that of a Ducati V2), the auto transmission is not as intuitive as you'd like (shifts on roundabouts, sometimes shifts too quickly, sometimes hangs to a gear too long for no reason) and my bike, as others, has had quite a lot of stalling issues on traffic lights. Especially on cold engine, but can happen after running for hours too. Quite annoying to have all those cars ready to start behind you, and you stalling like a learner. To summarize, if the NC 750 came with 20 horsepower more, a regular manual shifter with a perfect quickshifter system, it'd be the best commuting bike ever. The NC 750 is one of those bikes you like a lot because it never upsets you and allways does what you expect (well unless it pisses you off by stalling at the red light..). Just like you like the GS not for sheer passion, but for capability at doing what it's aimed for (which isn't commuting, Zach! the lady is too fat and expensive ), whilst if you just judge it on a few minutes riding you'll think its boring. the NC just makes life easy, every day. So yeah, it does spark joy. I ride 150+ hp bikes, but for every day, no one needs more than the NC. Replaces a car without any problem, especially with a 60 L givi top case on the back. And by the way, my Shoei NXR and Schubert C4 fit in the frunk without any issue
A very accessible bike for disabled rider. I was at my local bike workshop and got chatting with a guy who only had one arm and this is model of bike he rode
I love these reviews! They are my Saturday morning lay in bed video 😆👍
Exactly what I’m doing right now while viewing!! Lol I just don’t see myself on a auto bike
The ambulance driver is using her phone. That’s a nice touch. 🤣😂 Beautiful Zack!
The 2021 is a huge improvement over the previous model. I was planning to buy one but bought a Rebel 1100 DCT because these are actually almost just as difficult to find in SoCal right now. I may still buy one later. It’s a great example of Honda engineering for a specific purpose that other manufacturers don’t.
How have you liked the rebel dct since you got it? Just curious as i most people don't mention the dct.
I was so taken with the review of the Versey I chatted up my dealer I have a relationship with and checked it out. He recommended the Honda minus the DCT instead. He has treated me right for years and the fact he steered me to a less expensive machine than the Versey made me think he was legitimately trying to help me out. I think bottom line is he finds Honda's better to maintain. While I have spoken with many long time riders who like the DCT I would use the money I save for accessories, probably luggage.
You really need to try a DCT. Its game changing. The ease during the twisties...
It looks to be dead easy to maintain. Easy Access to the cylinder head, screw and locknut valve adjustment!
Yup, they're dead easy. Top end is near identical to the car engine it was original based on, hence the low rev limit.
It is, indeed
I've got the NC700X, there's nothing difficult I've found so far.
After having to sit in bumper-to-bumper crawling commuter traffic on a FZ6 for an hour on more than one occasion, I'm sold on going automatic.
Just a constructive criticism here: Please add conversion pop up notes when speaking of specs, I know I can look it up but I don't want to pause from the immersive experience to convert it.Of course unless 99% of the subscribers are from US and only I am from the outside 😘.
Thanks for sticking up for the automatic lovers! I loved manual bikes, but now that I have nerve damage in my left hand and can't even feel myself grabbing the clutch anymore, DCT's have kept me on two wheels.
Same here. A car cleaned me up on a roundabout and smashed my left hand. I can’t guarantee that I’ll be able to grip a clutch when I need to.
Thank the Honda gods for DCT.
Thanks Zach, great content as always. It's clear that you're not a NC750X DCT fan, but its cool you weighed it on its own merits. I can't imagine how the Multistrada could possibly be a better daily commute to work bike than the NC750X DCT, but there you go. I'm a DCT fan. I've had the NC700X, Africa Twin, VFR1200X and Gold Wing all in DCT flavor and I dig them. It makes the most sense on the Gold Wing and NC750X, imo.
My friend bought one with DCT she really likes it....but will not give up her first bike (R3) which she does not feel comfortable on yet... her plan is to get used to riding and the traffic on the NC750X.. then get comfortable on the R3 with the shifting and riding position .. then wants to eventually get a Ducati sport bike!...Having never learned to drive a manual or riding a bike she struggled with the shifting and the traffic on the R3... she is very determined and I hope the NC750x will be a good stepping stone to her goals!... Great review! and great podcast with Itchy Boots!
I have been wanting to get my Wife into motorcycling. She is deaf and I was worried about her ability to shift gears.
This may be a great option and I hope to see more DCT options.
The more people we can introduce and get hooked on riding, the better.
Rode a NC700 a few years ago. That was the most dull and boring experience I have ever had on a motorcycle. But it is extremely practical. Seems like a clear winner for someone used to riding a scooter and does not want a scooter.
I will disclose a degree of bias as I have owned one of these over here in the UK for a good 6 months now - pretty much identical to this bike except it's blue. However I have come from a manual NC750S prior to this and have had a range of bikes.
I think the NC is probably the best, pound for pound, all rounder on the market. It's got a combination of real, accessible usable grunt that can out drag almost any car and still keep up with most bikes at real world speeds. The new version is vastly sharper in the corners and has a better, more controlled ride than before. Yes, it isn't fast given its engine size but that's only really relevant for bragging rights discussions - it's still a pretty quick bike when you want it.
This is balanced out by capability of up to 90mpg (UK) - I'm currently averaging 85mpg UK which is about 71mpg US and thats a 50/50 split of motorway, country and town use. The 'frunk' as owners call it, the front storage tank, makes it the most practical two wheeler this side of a scooter. The fairing and screen do a good enough job of keeping the weather off you. It can be fitted with enough luggage to rival the storage capacity of a small city car and carry it without any trouble.
Super low centre of gravity makes the weight a non issue.
The DCT is a bit marmite - but the new version better improved on older ones with the advent of the ride-by-wire throttle. I personally hated it first time I owned one (a 2017 750X, which preceded a 2019 manual S). However it has matured such that I genuinely don't ever think about it. It's unobtrusive, is always in the gear I would personally be in, is changeable and adaptable to your riding style. It allows me to concentrate on the act of riding which in our highly congested roads is super important. Manual still available if you prefer.
I've done 1000 mile in a week tours on this bike since owning and it was more comfortable than some significantly bigger bikes I've owned. Seat is a bit rubbish to be fair so padded shorts useful.
Only downsides - 1) As with all modern bikes it could do with some money spent on things to keep it in good nick. Rad guard, shock tube sort of thing. 2) body work is largely clipped together rather than screwed in requiring a lot of care when taking it apart. 3) fuel filler under pillion seat makes tie on rear luggage a pain in the ass. Hard luggage is preferable if you're doing lots of long distance riding.
Good balanced feedback. I have never ridden one but I'm thinking of trying one (I'm from UK and have a mixture of occasional long commute to lots of twisties).
Good balanced feedback. I have never ridden one but I'm thinking of trying one (I'm from UK and have a mixture of occasional long commute to lots of twisties).
@@andyhorton1472 really worth looking at for that application. Some owners find the suspension is a little bit harsh though is definitely better than the preceding version (I would agree, it’s not a sumptuous luxury barge). It’s still nominally within the lower to mid range price band and suspension components show it. Perfectly agile, actually quite capable of a hussle down the country lanes but something to be aware of.
They aren’t for everyone but damn good bikes I’d they suit your needs. Good luck with the test.
@@rau95-n1s thanks for the reply and its really helpful. Much appreciated 🙏
To me this would be the “ultimate motorcycle” if it had a shaft drive or even a lower maintenance belt drive. I feel people like myself who would want this motorcycle…. Are more likely to be that type of person who does not have the mechanical inclination or desire to do regular chain maintenance.
The way the price of gasoline is going this might be a homerun for Honda
You can thank Brandon for that.
I have a 2017 NC700X (no DCT, no ABS, etc) and as a shorter rider (5'4"), the move of the gas tank to below the seat is the best thing ever! It's comfortable enough for riding all day, and despite the actual weight, you can't feel it. I've even toured on it and the only thing I would say is that the front end is so light that the wind off the Pacific ocean was so fierce riding down Big Sur that it was just picking up my front end and moving me over to the "shoulder." (The "shoulder" was a little strip of dirt and gravel about 8 inches wide only so that was a bit scary.) Other than low quality tires from the factory, I never had a minute's trouble with mine. It's my "rain or shine" commuter for my 48 mile commute. I ride like the middle aged lady that I am and can get 70+ mpg.
Hey Zack…you know you do have a right side column on that leaderboard. Maybe put all the non-current/special bikes on the right in their own competition. Plus Dave would move up on the right…..
Top non commuters! And then test the husky 701
@@daosmw2 I have a KTM 690 supermoto and its a hoot to commute!
Just slap a DCT sticker on it and that will ensure it never gets stolen
@@brianrainey2739 yeah, can definitely get you in trouble
I’ve been using a 2018 Africa Twin Adventure Sports as my daily for 3 years. I’ve done tours, off-road, trails, pillion and we’ve had a great time. But. It is reaaaally top heavy and very high, even with the reduced height rally seat. I recently decided to get something more practical as a daily and just ordered one of these. It is a really surprising bike. You can’t judge it on its power figures. You really need to test one. So much low down grunt right from the get go. And it really feels quick and peppy on the twisties. Even reminds me of my old Tracer 700. And it’s absolutely nothing like a scooter. I rode scooters years ago and just didn’t appreciate the riding position or the light front end. And all those DCT haters, seriously, go try one. I’ve also got a 650 Bandit and an 1100 Pan European. I’ve ridden tons of other bikes. This one is by far the most surprising. In a good way. Which is why I bought one!
US car market is seeing the death of the manual transmission. That with the rapid growth of electric motorcycles that also don’t have a clutch. Decades from now, are we going to look back at Honda’s DCT as way ahead of its time?
I don't think it's fair to compare car's manual gearbox and bike's sequential gearbox.
@@hornetdc Mechanically I would agree with you. But I was thinking more of car companies slowly stopped making manual transmissions due to efficiency and ease of use. I was wondering if motorcycle companies would ever get to the point of removing traditional clutch transmissions because of similar reasons.
I had a 1979 Honda CM400A Hondamatic! taht was ahead of its time
@@TheBawalumihidito If the companies want to sell more units, they need to offer automatics. Manual shifting is what keeps some folks from riding, and even many who currently ride don't want to constantly shift in city traffic.
@@georgeklimes7604 I agree, people act as if manual and DCT is mutually exclusive. There is a market segment for both and the prudent thing for Honda is not to try to slowly phase out manual bikes but try to expand the customer base by getting more people into riding, potentially through the DCT while offering manual bikes for the purist. I think the goal is to sell more bikes overall, not convert current manual transmission customers to DCT customers. The purists will look down on the DCT without thinking that this technology serves a purpose and is good for the motorcycle industry overall by providing people that physically cannot shift with a viable option, as well as encouraging more people to start riding that otherwise may not have done so. DCT riders may decide to advance to a manual bike which then opens the door to all motorcycles and brands so i am really shocked more companies do not offer automatics. Purists often don't think long-term growth and nuance, they only only react to the initial emotional response and think tradition is more important even if advancements equal greater consumer benefits.
I have one for commuting, its a good bike nothing wrong, even fun to ride on a twisty road when I'm just having a play. I like the bike.
I guess this would make a good commuter bike for work, especially in stop start traffic. I'd definitely want a second "fun" bike for weekends though.
Love my 2022 Nc750x DCT . Never going back to Manual gearbox again!
I was skeptical of the DCT, but picked up a gently used Africa Twin with one on an excellent deal. I love it. The only time I think about it is off-road near a cliff. I wish it had a clutch to remove power from the rear wheel just in case…The NC750 would be my go to commuter bike if I lived down town.
Could you train yourself to smash the Neutral button in that case?
You're in California, but if you live in a state where lane splitting isn't allowed, you'll appreciate that automatic transmission in stop and go rush hour traffic. I have an NM4 based off the nc700 and love it in Dallas traffic.
As an owner of the previous model in the UK, I'd say your review is scrupulously fair and balanced! I was looking at a scooter so interesting you got a question on that, my take was that the TMax is slower and costs about 50% so the NC was an easy choice. Best words to describe? Practical, utilitarian, honest. The sort of bike that used to sell before bikes were hobbies or toys. A modern take on a CX500/650 or NTV600/650 i think. Again very practical and worthy just not going to set your pants on fire. Does it make me go "Wow!" when i open the garage? No. But as a jack of all trades including touring round Europe? Yeah it'll do that and cost pennies. Next logical step up has to be the new NT1100!
I want to get a bike, and I want this to be my first. I don’t want a manual transmission, so sue me. Lets me focus on other things. Plus, that frunk. Genius.
Nice review. I'm always amazed as you (in US) drive automatic cars for so long and default automatic bikes. In Europe we drive manual geared cars and have no problem to drive dct bikes or scooters. 😂. Greetings.
I had to teach 3 separate young European ladies how to drive an automatic car when they got to the US. Very few people in the US under 25 can drive a manual car. They never have had to.
That really is an interesting observation! Haha. Car is for practicality/travel here in the US, motorcycles are purchased purely for fun 99% of the time. I guess we want that clutch engagement because we do not intend to use it for commuting. I guess it's why I see so many bikes for sale with 5000 miles on them.
I got this bike this last summer! Its so nice just jump on and go, no weird hyper sonic throttle torque like the Africa twin, just cruise at your own comfortable level
I 3D printed a 20 liter (Don't know, what that is in eagle bladders) gas tank, that fits into trunk. I fall asleep before I ever run out of fuel. XD
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What material did you use? ABS?
@@johnsteinberg8540 Carbon fibre reinforced nylon, tempered after the print and tested for leaks.
In Italy it's super popular! Lot of people want to upgrade from scooter but don't want to drop the convenience of an automatic transmission choose it. I personally have the 2012 NC700S with the manual trans, but i respect people who choose the dct, since it's excellent.
Some of the ratings, lately, have felt like recency bias. I can't imagine riding this back to back with either the Tiger or the Tenere and coming away wanting to ride this as a daily rider over either of them.
Zac.. you missed the best part of the dct trans...in any mode you can use the paddle shifters. So even in standard mode 2 or three clicks of the downshift paddle before a sweet curve and game on
Great review Zack! I bought a manual 2012 NC700X in 2013 and I love the bike and agree with you all the way. Before I bought this bike the largest bike I had ever owned was a 250. I have ridden this bike off road and it will do it but you are correct about the lack of suspension and being to heavy. So I am currently waiting for a CRF300 Rally to come in. As for gas mileage I average 70 mpg and when ridding conservatively under 50 mph I actually got as high as 90 mpg. I know some are going to say I am stretching the truth but I filled up before I left and filled when I returned with exactly 90 miles on the trip meter and could only get a gallon in the tank. I also want to say thank you again for High Side Low Side interview of Itchy Boots that made my day. I am editing this because the Honda shop just called to say that my CRF300 rally just came in. YAY
All motorcycles spark joy! And, you can change gears manually. It’s only the clutch that’s not manual on the DCT version. It’s an extremely popular bike in Europe.
Excellent video Zack. I predicted you would rank this at No. 6. I’m happy to see it landed one spot higher. I think this bike may be the one of the best-value-for-money bikes out there, at least for me. Your review here has made this bike even more interesting to me than it already was. Thank you for presenting this video.
He called it the “pocket protector” of motorcycles and chills went down my spine. How come no one mentions it has adjustable contrast on the display?
I'm all about track/racing and only do GP/Reverse shifting but for street, DCT seem like a very good thing.
I've done more than 25K miles on my 2016 nc750x and I can easily say it's a brilliant bike for daily commuting and more. I recently started living in the forest and the roads are all dirt, no asphalt. At first I was very skeptical about riding this bike on dirt roads. However, it turned out that with the right tyres the nc750x dct is surprisingly good off road as it is on road. My only issue with this bike is the seat height as I'm just over 6ft. It feels low after bmw 1200gs.
What a great test video. Being a lifelong Honda MC man, along with once owning an Accord and still running a 1987 Honda lawn mower (best ever), I would have to label this bike as the closest thing to a Honda Accord on two wheels. My current rides are a 1985 GL1200I, a '81 GL1100 Standard and a '72 CB450. This bike would be the closest match to the 450. Wet it is close to the weight at ~470#. Single disk front brake (make from wood), 44HP, and you really need to work the make the 450 pull a wheelie. Thanks for the information, it really makes sense.
I have a 23 Rebel 1100 DCT and can tell you that DCT is the future, like it or not. I personally wasn’t thrilled to get it (no manual available), and I must say I am glad I did. I ended up loving it, it is something you have to try for a few days and you’ll love it, the comfort is amazing, and since most people aren’t in a race every day, that DCT becomes a very good thing to have. Honda has mastered the DCT.
I have sinds 2013 a Honda Integra 700 DCT and it's my favourit bike ! No more worries about shifting and from what I heard : the new version prevents the DCT from shifting gears when taking a turn and the bike is not straight up. The best !
Any chance you could review the 2022 CB500X?
I have a 2012 NC700X DCT and it is great, just hit 20k miles and runs like it just rolled off the showroom floor. There is almost no maintenance, it sips fuel (67 to 71 mpg is what I get), it is easy to ride with a very low center of gravity, and the automatic transmission allows you to enjoy the ride more than a manual. The bike does not have the get up and go of a regular bike given the automatic transmission and the type of engine but unless you are trying to pop wheelies to impress exactly no one, then this bike has enough useable power for actual street riding. Don't be surprised though if you continue to grab for the clutch leaver and shifter years after you go automatic, old habits are really hard to break.
Personally I would have put it over the 1250GS for pure daily ride just due to cost. The NC is soooo much cheaper.
But I thought the same thing about the Versys 650.
They should be 1, 2, in my books. With maybe a CB500X and an INT 650 in the 3, 4, slots
I sold my mine because of its clunkiness in slow traffic (in Bangkok, that is how you ride most of the time. Sloooow). It is not very good in slow traffic because the transmission clunks in and out at low speeds making the ride jerky. My wife hated it because she was jerked around as the pillion passenger and kept headbutting me. The dealer said you can use the manual override in traffic to get over the clunkiness. What is the point of an automatic if you need to switch to manual when the traffic is slow? Easier just have a manual bike so you can use the clutch to smooth out your ride.
On the plus side, the tank storage space and the low centre of gravity were great. Fuel consumption was also excellent considering it spent most of its life in traffic doing 20 to 30km an hour. Great bike for commuting long distances, provided you are not doing much low speed filtering.
Finally!!! I've got an (older) NC750X myself and I've been waiting for this review for a very long time. Not watched it yet but I bet at the end of the video the NC will be very high on the list. Now let's crack on! Thanks!
I'm surprised it didn't place higher, honestly. I was expecting a podium finish if not possibly topping the list. I at least expected it to beat the versys 650 as it tops it in almost every aspect of commuting ability and is cheaper.
@@sparkythewildcat97 amongst those first handful os spots it's just a matter of subjectivity. For me NC is better than a big and heavy GS, but not for Zack.
Hi all... I am geezer age...73.. had a 1970 750 Honda before entering Vietnam Service..it had 67 HP at 8,000 Rpm...electric start and front disk were the only "high tech " features of that time that I remember ..competition , limited but was, was Kawasaki 500 triple two stroke ..and oil leaking Harley's .. Triumphs.. and a few BSA's...
Like living on a different planet with today's tech and features and product options available.. great for today's riders..wonderful tech progress it seems..
wouldn't want to go back to old tech..with half a century + calendar flips, lots of great improvements ..also enjoyed the review immensely! Thanks...safe riding to all!!
I love these videos. Thanks for doing what you do, Zack.
I am one of those DCT fans. But totally feel that to each their own. If you don't want a DCT, don't buy it. But be sure to try one before you diss it. My current 2018 Goldwing is a DCT and before that, had a DCT on my Africa Twin. Big fan...
Hello Zack .. It might be fun to add some more references to your list for each bike ... So far for sub categories you have a green dollar sign for expensive and a flame for hot and fast . How about a smiley face for bikes that just make you smile every time you ride them (Like the T7) or maybe a sleepy face for the Tiger 850 or the NC750.. Also maybe a blue E for economic as in great on gas and cheap to own .. Maybe a wrench for bikes that need a ton of up keep ..Maybe a suitcase or a box for storage ... PS when you go home to visit the fam could you do an interview with your dad on living with old BMW air heads . It would be a wonderful clip ... All the best , Guy
Agree. It really can't be a one dimensional measure since all of these do something special in different categories however I think for what the rider board is it a pretty decent overall rating system.
@@georgegarcia3182 Me too / I agree.. :) Zack is doing a wonderful job .The fact that each bike is put through just the same ride and shown at whatever strengths or weaknesses are found in each section is just great ...
As someone who runs a Vespa GTS 300 on highway runs between the Jersey Shore and NYC (and enjoys it), I was curious about this review, as I remember *Cycle* magazine's first review of the first Hondamatic 750 from the late 70s, with the tagline "we're all shiftless bastards now". As much as I enjoyed rowing five-speeds on the dirt in my semi-crazed late-teens and early twenties, "twist-n-go" has a few nice bits to say about it, particularly in urban environs, where constant low-speed gear changes get old pretty fast, unless you're on a happily-lugging big single or V-twin; the GTS is fine at most any rev point, pulling happily when needed. (Full disclosure: the powertrain's had a little help of late from a Malossi upgrade to the drive belt and variatior after some 20k miles, where it now pulls even harder and quicker.) The House that Soichiro Built has always been a bit ahead of the curve, generally speaking, and this is no exception: if you want to shift for yourself, they still do it as well as anyone else, but they also know that if you want to put more butts on two wheels, you'll need to offer something more, which is why they've stuck to improving "shiftless" bikes. (And, yes, there's even a two-speed electric bike out there, but *it's not necessary.*)