Can't express it enough how delightful it was to see that 707. Brought me back to my childhood wacthing those epic Airport movies in the 70's. Thnx 3 MOA. 👍
Hehe, don't remember them first time around but as an aficionado of cheese 70s fun I recently watched (I think it's) Airport '77 - the one with the seven four seven that ends up at the bottom of the ocean - but because it's pressurized there is a race against time to try to raise the plane to the surface to rescue the PAX. Hilarious really but great fun. Usually George Kennedy or Leslie Neilson shows up playing it straight. I love that shite I really do. 707s too!
@@brianvosburgh1720 During high power settings it's only the high rate of airflow being sucked into the engine intake which which 'pulls' the spring loaded inlet doors inwards (open) and allows more air to enter the engine. So it looks like the sudden and rapid interruptions and changes oif direction of airflow will be reflected in the rapid opeing and closing of the spring loaded doors..... if you get my drift!
The source video has the correct location: Las Palmas de Gran Canaria (LPA). Destination is DUS, but the scene happened during departure. Greetings fromm desolate DUS...
That's an ANA pilot?! For decades, I've considered them the gold standard in terms of performance. This is definitely the "you're not getting home on time" episode.
Didn't you ever see a world class football player fail an easy goal? Happens to the best... the most experienced F14 pilot in the world died because he forgot to remove the control locks while flying a SEP aircraft...
We are all new at some point in time in our careers but this next generation of new pilots are pretty bad. No concept of basic pitch + power = performance….they are trained to push buttons and watch autopilots fly. After 20,000 hours and 25 years of airline experience I’m concerned about the safety of the industry going forward. I hope I’m wrong!!
Agreed. Never flew the bus but lots of Boeings. We always set the autobrakes to RTO (rejected takeoff) after pushback. If you pull the power back to idle once you hit 80 kts, max autobraking occurs. I'm guessing it's about the same on the bus, that seemed liked pretty heavy braking.
1:08 Condor A321 rejected take-off. Reminds me of the Mayday episode in season 5, Mixed Signals. Birgenair Flight 301 took off with a blocked pitot tube on the captains gauge and ended up crashing.
There was an incident 5 years ago at my local Airport where something similar happened; pitot tubes were blocked and the airspeed indicators were showing different measurements for the Captain and FO. Luckily the plane didn't crash and the pilots landed safely, but it could've been deadly. Was Malaysia Airlines flight 134
I was on a flight once that had a high-speed rejected takeoff. It took almost an hour for the landing gear brakes to cool down enough for us to try again.
Typically, on a 737 the threshold is 80 knots. At and below that the temperature should be fine to reject takeoff, work the problem, and take off again. Above that, they may need to return to the gate for a maintenance inspection on the brakes due to energy used on the abort.
Yes they can, see American Airlines flight 587 that hit wake turbulence from the preceding 747 shortly after takeoff: the pilot flying over-used the rudder by going lock to lock numerous times, overstressed and snapped the tail fin off causing a complete loss of control and a crash that killed everyone. Unfortunately they had been trained to do that with the rudder when in reality it’s a very powerful control surface (to keep the plane straight on the runway in a strong crosswind needs a lot of control authority at low airspeed, as does losing an engine with TOGA at V1 on a twin for examples)
There was very little wind with that ANA 772 landing but the pilot sure stuffed it up. The 777 is such an easy aircraft to land in almost all conditions.
B777 rated here with over 15 000 hours flown specifically. I used to fly on RJOA - KLAX quite often. I can tell you that RJOA region is insanely tricky. The windsock clearly didn't show as if there was much wind, but belive me that this was the case for me once too.
Tap is known to have the top pilots in the world, the qualifications and level of skill to ingress in Tap is insane, i have some friends there and its a fact, no crashes in their history, just in 1977 TAP Portugal 425 landing at funchal-Madeira airport (LPMA) the plane (B727) overran the airport's runway before the full stop. After that incident they made the runway bigger
I don't know why ANA 777-200 went arround in that first clip but i don't think it was for the reasons you stated. possibly the changes in pitch attitude after landing made it difficult to evaluate the length of runway remaining.
@@q8463 Gusts of wind from the front seems like it would add up to this. Also a training flight maybe? That's definitely a lesson that isn't learned until it happens. Did seem like they could have initiated go around before bouncing the nose wheel 3 times tho
The ANA pilot-induced-oscillation video looks more like a planned touch-and-go / training flight. It's obvious the trainee certainly needs the practice!
Haha had to watch that first one again - that was like a bucking bronco! I’d say there were a few screamers on board during that! Video will haunt poor pilot flying forever!
Is that ANA video for real? It doesn’t look right, somehow, and I can find no official record of it. JA712A was production No. 495 if anyone is able to corroborate.
“ the pilot refuse to take off after disagreeing with the speed readings”. If the speed readings are off, that means when you input throttle, you’re not getting what you should back from the engines. That’s a very serious thing.
How do the airlines deal with dumping fuel and having to land unexpectedly for emergency reasons? Does insurance cover instances like that? Is it all one big write off?
First rule about landing when learning to fly: never push the controls forward. If you've rounded out or flared a little too much and subsequently start to float or even balloon, hold the controls there and wait for the descent to come back to you and then continue. If you have insufficient runway, go around. You've planned for this and carried reserve fuel for this exact reason amongst others like diversions and contingency. Nose gears aren't designed to bear the weight of an entire aircraft, especially not with added landing forces!
ANA FO pilot probably wasn't experienced enough to deal with the wind sheer which it definitely got at about 50ft. The exaggerated aileron controls seems to me like he/she was panicking to get all gear down but without slamming it and the captain took control and took her around. That F0 is going back to the sim.
2:11 Back in 2005 my plane (a 747) had to make an emergency landing in Beijing about an hour into a flight to Chicago.... we had to dump A LOT of fuel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you know that many Major airlines fly longhaul the A321neo. Did you know the A321neo does not have fuel dump option. Did you also know that in case of an emercency the A321neo needs to fly 4 hours if configured to a 3000nm longhaul after takeoff in order to land within limits? Why AIRBUS does not fit DUMP FUEL option? Why is it allowed? I don't get it!
Omg this is my biggest fear of landing like that, when it seems landing is going ok but then suddenly another take off, after this videos it seems i'm going to be afraid of it till the door of a plane is open for leaving.
At more than a few thousand feet, it completely vaporizes and never reaches the ground. People are more likely to get sick living in an urban area and breathing the smog.
Can't express it enough how delightful it was to see that 707. Brought me back to my childhood wacthing those epic Airport movies in the 70's. Thnx 3 MOA. 👍
Hehe, don't remember them first time around but as an aficionado of cheese 70s fun I recently watched (I think it's) Airport '77 - the one with the seven four seven that ends up at the bottom of the ocean - but because it's pressurized there is a race against time to try to raise the plane to the surface to rescue the PAX. Hilarious really but great fun. Usually George Kennedy or Leslie Neilson shows up playing it straight. I love that shite I really do. 707s too!
@@XXSkunkWorksXX that one was my favorite out of all the features they made. Die Hard 2 also reminds me of those movies.
@@XXSkunkWorksXXomg I had forgotten they did that in a movie. 747 submarine 🤣
Roger, Roger
Surely you can't be serious?
A huge thanks to all the passengers and spotters for providing us this awesome footage!
And the pilots lol 😂
1:14 that's some of the best take off sounds I've heard in a video before. Soooo satisfying!
sounds amazing
reverse thrust sounds amazing
How about the "takeoff" sound at 2:30 ? :)
I like how on the 707 the engine surge can be seen in the cowl intakes, they fluctuate between open and closed quite wildly
I thought I was seeing water vapor, can those cowls move that quickly? I wouldn't think so.
@@brianvosburgh1720 During high power settings it's only the high rate of airflow being sucked into the engine intake which which 'pulls' the spring loaded inlet doors inwards (open) and allows more air to enter the engine. So it looks like the sudden and rapid interruptions and changes oif direction of airflow will be reflected in the rapid opeing and closing of the spring loaded doors..... if you get my drift!
Was there a mustang or something driving by as the 707 was landing or was that the 707 making that noise? lmao
@@fishis14unfortunately there was. It was a car with a loud exhaust. I almost didn’t post the video because of how obnoxious it was.
Düsseldorf might be desolate, but its not a desert...
Haha, I was looking for a comment about that. Looks like AYT with tjos military huts in the background.
It looked like HAS’s in the distance.
I know DUS very well and was like "Since when are there bunkers?"
Definitely not DUS.
The source video has the correct location: Las Palmas de Gran Canaria (LPA). Destination is DUS, but the scene happened during departure.
Greetings fromm desolate DUS...
@@CerberusTenshi I wouldn't be surprised to see bunkers in Germany! I mean, you know...
That's an ANA pilot?! For decades, I've considered them the gold standard in terms of performance.
This is definitely the "you're not getting home on time" episode.
Well, I guess that was caused by turbulence
I don't think it was kosher.
tell me about it...
@@RX7201Aviation windsock at the start seems pretty calm though.
Didn't you ever see a world class football player fail an easy goal? Happens to the best... the most experienced F14 pilot in the world died because he forgot to remove the control locks while flying a SEP aircraft...
Hiroshima airport is in the mountains and the wind is very changeable. I experienced a few go-arounds myself.
that ANA landing was crazy
We are all new at some point in time in our careers but this next generation of new pilots are pretty bad. No concept of basic pitch + power = performance….they are trained to push buttons and watch autopilots fly. After 20,000 hours and 25 years of airline experience I’m concerned about the safety of the industry going forward. I hope I’m wrong!!
@@michaelrussek154 I think you are generalizing and you are wrong.
@2aesthetic4me Don't mistake bad for unexperienced.
looks like his landing XD
@@Shadow__133 His a pilot himself and he is right. not you random
Looks like the 321 reject came at the airspeed cross check call out.
Some really good stuff in this video!!
Agreed. Never flew the bus but lots of Boeings. We always set the autobrakes to RTO (rejected takeoff) after pushback. If you pull the power back to idle once you hit 80 kts, max autobraking occurs. I'm guessing it's about the same on the bus, that seemed liked pretty heavy braking.
finally a video with no clickbait headline. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
That ANA aircraft looked like Soul Plane taxiing! 😆
1:08 Condor A321 rejected take-off. Reminds me of the Mayday episode in season 5, Mixed Signals. Birgenair Flight 301 took off with a blocked pitot tube on the captains gauge and ended up crashing.
There was an incident 5 years ago at my local Airport where something similar happened; pitot tubes were blocked and the airspeed indicators were showing different measurements for the Captain and FO. Luckily the plane didn't crash and the pilots landed safely, but it could've been deadly. Was Malaysia Airlines flight 134
Exactly the same issue different outcomes.
I thought of that same episode when I saw that
Congratulations on 400k
Thank you!
I was on a flight once that had a high-speed rejected takeoff. It took almost an hour for the landing gear brakes to cool down enough for us to try again.
The manufacturers publish tables of minimum cool-down times.
Typically, on a 737 the threshold is 80 knots. At and below that the temperature should be fine to reject takeoff, work the problem, and take off again. Above that, they may need to return to the gate for a maintenance inspection on the brakes due to energy used on the abort.
Overcontrol inputs can be dangerous!!
Ok cool
Truly, a remarkable insight x)
Yes they can, see American Airlines flight 587 that hit wake turbulence from the preceding 747 shortly after takeoff: the pilot flying over-used the rudder by going lock to lock numerous times, overstressed and snapped the tail fin off causing a complete loss of control and a crash that killed everyone. Unfortunately they had been trained to do that with the rudder when in reality it’s a very powerful control surface (to keep the plane straight on the runway in a strong crosswind needs a lot of control authority at low airspeed, as does losing an engine with TOGA at V1 on a twin for examples)
@@marspp Nope. Suggest you do some more reading from a more reputable source.
@@lbowsklet me guess, you’re a conspiracy theorist, and your idea of “reputable source” is a RUclips video of some crank in his basement??
Probably one of the best episodes so far, a lot of unusual and crazy footage!
@3 Minutes of Aviation The clip from the Conder A321 is at Lanzarote. For sure. Maybe it is heading to Düsseldorf
Pilot "Do we have enough speed to take off?
Co-Pilot "I think so?"
Pilot 👀
Why did he take off again anyway, all wheels were on the ground. Should have just slammed on the brakes.
The video from "Dusseldorf" is not in Dusseldorf, is from Gran Canaria airport "Gando" in the Canary Islands during a sandstorm.
Isn't Los Rodeos the original airport in Tenerife?
@@renejean2523 sorry i fixed now
There was very little wind with that ANA 772 landing but the pilot sure stuffed it up. The 777 is such an easy aircraft to land in almost all conditions.
DO IT BETTER
U 777 type rated by any chance?
@@timobitter9497 - yes.
B777 rated here with over 15 000 hours flown specifically. I used to fly on RJOA - KLAX quite often. I can tell you that RJOA region is insanely tricky. The windsock clearly didn't show as if there was much wind, but belive me that this was the case for me once too.
@@EdOeunaproof, please.
Perfect (non-click-baity) title! A few more of those in a row and I'll subscribe! (Great content, as always.)
The 707 turned this clip to a whole 'nother' level 👏🏼👏🏼
The Condor A321 is definitely not attempting take-off at Düsseldorf. Probably Las Palmas de Gran Canaria.
I totaly agree with you. I worked at Düsseldorf Airport for 6 years and i was sure from the first second, this is not Düsseldorf.
It is the airport of Gran Canaria. In the background you can see the F18 hangars of the 46 wing of the Gando air base.
Absolute awesome footage,nicely compiled video dude👍
Bravo,anything pilots do to safe life is a great tears stopper.
Tap is known to have the top pilots in the world, the qualifications and level of skill to ingress in Tap is insane, i have some friends there and its a fact, no crashes in their history, just in 1977 TAP Portugal 425 landing at funchal-Madeira airport (LPMA) the plane (B727) overran the airport's runway before the full stop. After that incident they made the runway bigger
Incredible video!!
My new favorite sound is now jt3d compressor surge. I know it’s bad but I can’t not think it sounds good in an otherworldly way
Great to see a 707😃😃😃😃😃😃
great video as always, but that Condor takeoff is defintely not Düsseldorf
That Omega Tanker musta been supercharged. Sounded just like a V-8😏
That isn´t Dusseldorf. Looks more like Gran Canaria
IKR?! Aint no way Düsseldorf is that sandy
Gary, Indiana
@@RLTtizMECondor does not fly there, and certainly not with a 321
@@wakeupcall2665 🤡🤡👈👈😂😂😛😛
2:00 If you look closely you can actually see tens of thousands of little dollar signs coming out of the wing!
1:10 That isn't Düsseldorf, that's Gran Canaria
Sounds like there was a manual V8 Mustang or some other car with a V8 in the background with the 707 video.
The 707 in the end is certified for creating Minecraft cave sounds.
Looks like the TAP at Madeira was seconds from disaster. Scary. Thanks for the vids !
Some awesome videos there 😳
I don't know why ANA 777-200 went arround in that first clip but i don't think it was for the reasons you stated. possibly the changes in pitch attitude after landing made it difficult to evaluate the length of runway remaining.
For those who think the ANA pilot was just a bad pilot, apparently there was a lot of headwind and so it was difficult
Headwinds make landing easier.
@@lbowsk guess it was windshear
@@lbowskonly if the wind is consistent
@@Boss_Tanaka Windshear results in loss of lift! Can be on any axis, in reality loss of lift resulting in roll is rare.
@@q8463 Gusts of wind from the front seems like it would add up to this. Also a training flight maybe? That's definitely a lesson that isn't learned until it happens. Did seem like they could have initiated go around before bouncing the nose wheel 3 times tho
That 777-200 was messy, surprisingly late go around too
My guess is there was a "I have control!" moment around the time the go-around was initiated.
lol "Messy" is a very generous way of putting it.
Wow 3 minutes sharp 👏
I LOVE this channel!!!
The ANA pilot-induced-oscillation video looks more like a planned touch-and-go / training flight. It's obvious the trainee certainly needs the practice!
1:18 That is Las Palmas, Gran Canaria GCLP, Not Dusseldorf
The Lufthansa fuel bill would be sent to medical emergency passenger here in the US.
stupid American, as always! They have an insurance for this if the PAX was not responsible for his medical condition!
Maybe it was a German or EU citizen. Anyhow, airlines do not charge passengers for a medical emergency and diversion. And those are not cheap...
@@wakeupcall2665 humor based on truths. Hypothetical
No, it wouldn't.
@@A.J.1656 no s***
Haha had to watch that first one again - that was like a bucking bronco! I’d say there were a few screamers on board during that! Video will haunt poor pilot flying forever!
Ryanair: Congrats ANA!, i am so proud of you!!🎉🎉
Is that ANA video for real? It doesn’t look right, somehow, and I can find no official record of it. JA712A was production No. 495 if anyone is able to corroborate.
I thought it was one of those comedy clips. I'm doubtful that a 777 would react in that way. Wouldn't you need some heavy inputs for that?
@@tannagra watch the elevators on a big screen.
It bounced. Those people probably in the ANA landing is like “THAT WAS HARD!!!”
“ the pilot refuse to take off after disagreeing with the speed readings”. If the speed readings are off, that means when you input throttle, you’re not getting what you should back from the engines. That’s a very serious thing.
1:20 this is not düsseldorf this is gran canaria
Ok, I’m not a real pilot, but I played one on an ANA flight once
01:14 Thats in GCLP ,Gran Canaria Airport ,Spain.
In a pretty hazy day ,by the way.
I didn't know there was a commercial aerial refueling service. Do the F-18s have to give a credit card number over the radio first?😀
How do the airlines deal with dumping fuel and having to land unexpectedly for emergency reasons? Does insurance cover instances like that? Is it all one big write off?
First landing was almost cartoonishly unreal. Do we know what caused that mad attempt ? I would love to hear an expert opinion
1:14 that clip definitely wasn’t recorded at Dusseldorf Airport, it looks more like Gran Canaria or so…
That Ana landing was facinating
Damn that's the most beautiful landing RyanAir has ever seen
Pretty scary for the passengers and crew on the TAP.
Not really, just a rejected takeoff.
Great video!
Wow that engine growling in the end
The ANA looks like Touch&go training. The cam was on the airside of the airport.
That condor...spooling up the engines, rolling...."cabin crew prepare for departure" lol i guess they figured already
Didn't know those doors around the inlet of the 707 engine were able to open or close that fast
They’re spring loaded to the closed position. Low pressure in the intake at higher thrust actually “sucks” them open.
Yep, I have never seen auxiliary air intakes, certainly not operating, before.
You learn something new every day.
First rule about landing when learning to fly: never push the controls forward.
If you've rounded out or flared a little too much and subsequently start to float or even balloon, hold the controls there and wait for the descent to come back to you and then continue. If you have insufficient runway, go around. You've planned for this and carried reserve fuel for this exact reason amongst others like diversions and contingency.
Nose gears aren't designed to bear the weight of an entire aircraft, especially not with added landing forces!
So safe to say/conclude that the PIO can prove to be catastrophic on the front landing gear, right?
Certified pilot here, never heard about this rule.
@@YSLaurens that's unfortunate then
@@YSLaurens
Yeah, I do it all the time landing in gusty conditions.
Aerosucre gave that ANA video a thumbs up
All that fuel is like watching $$$$$$ fly into the clouds!
Wow, this 707 sound!
Ryanair : We are hiring pilots like the ANA ones
ANA FO pilot probably wasn't experienced enough to deal with the wind sheer which it definitely got at about 50ft. The exaggerated aileron controls seems to me like he/she was panicking to get all gear down but without slamming it and the captain took control and took her around. That F0 is going back to the sim.
The first one looked like he chose to go around for no reason after the plane had stabilized.
Depends on the runway length and weight of the aircraft. He could have chose to cause he didn't think they could stop in time.
Why did you edit your thumbnail? The 777 didn't do that in the video
Is the crappy landing in the first clip due to pilot error or bad weather?
As a non-pilot who knows nothing about aviation, I have nothing to say.
That qualification never seems to stop anybody else.
2:11 Back in 2005 my plane (a 747) had to make an emergency landing in Beijing about an hour into a flight to Chicago.... we had to dump A LOT of fuel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Second one is interesting, disagreeing take off? Seems like it barely got going... never heard that before.. thnx :)
Did you know that many Major airlines fly longhaul the A321neo. Did you know the A321neo does not have fuel dump option. Did you also know that in case of an emercency the A321neo needs to fly 4 hours if configured to a 3000nm longhaul after takeoff in order to land within limits? Why AIRBUS does not fit DUMP FUEL option? Why is it allowed? I don't get it!
1:08 Lucky it didn’t turn into a Birgenair 301 or an Air France 447
1:16
That's DEFINETELY not Düsseldorf!! 😂😂
LPA :-)
Ahhh... the old wasp's nest in the pitot tubes trick again!😂
I remember seeing the lufthansa a340 in Dublin last week. Apparently it rerouted back to germany instead of continuing its journey to america, oof
You mean to the United States
The United States is in America. No different in concept to saying “they returned to Europe”.
@@marspp If they landed in Dublin, they never left Europe.
@@creativemindplay America ia another name for United States
@@dediver ummm,.... that was an example.
That compressor surge sounded like a small block chevy lol
You owe us a second of aviation
Now thats i call a ryanair landing
How about cutting out the tag lines when you already have the descriptions in the videos. They are very distracting.
I tried landing in Maderia the other day and the wind and turbulence were crazy. Had to divert back to lisbon
Were you able to try again or did another crew have to fly to FNC?
@@_an14 Flight was cancelled. The weather was forecast to deteriorate.
The airport at minute 1:15 is definetely not Düsseldorf.
2:29 was that the 707 making those rev sounds?
no lol, the highway is right being the spot that guy was at \
Do you know what does it mean dumping fuel in the full sky for our air?
Omg this is my biggest fear of landing like that, when it seems landing is going ok but then suddenly another take off, after this videos it seems i'm going to be afraid of it till the door of a plane is open for leaving.
How does the airline recover that amount of fuel lost while dumping.
You owe us 1 second of aviation.
How many people then subsequently had medical issues due to the 'dumped' fuel?
At more than a few thousand feet, it completely vaporizes and never reaches the ground. People are more likely to get sick living in an urban area and breathing the smog.
The airspeed check occurs at 80 knots so not a high speed reject.
Maybe they call it a medium speed reject. An MSR, probably. Ignore me...I'm just inventing aviation terms.
Good stuff.👍
Been over the Atlantic in a jet that was leaking fuel from the wing, an unintentional dump!
Stop exaggerating the thumbnails
That A340 looked like it was at FL500, those were some dark skies 😊