640 vs 384 Thermal Scope Comparison | Is The 640 Worth $1200 More?
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- We compare two great scopes of the same brand. One is a AGM 640X512 resolution and the other is an AGM 384X288 resolution. Both are 12 micron scopes and similar magnification. You be the judge if the 640 is worth $1200 more.
AGM Varmint LRF Image Comparison | TS384 vs TS640. We did videos with both scopes at same time and let you see the results. First each scope is featured, then side by side in same video.
Sorry there is no hog hunting or coyote hunting in this video but you can see some of our other videos for coyote hunts with the AGM Varmint LRF with laser range finder demo.
AGM Varmint LRF TS35-384 vs TS50-640 Side by Side Image Quality test. See videos from both scopes side by side with all the color Palettes from 50 to 200+ yards in a short 2 minute video. then watch our reviews of the two scopes.
AGM Varmint LRF TS384 3-12X vs AGM Varmint TS50-640 2.5-10X
Side by Side Image Quality
Both scopes have the great American Defense QD mount and are powered by rechargeable 18650 batteries. Laser Range Finder accurate out to 600 yards.
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Coyote hunting is about the only method of controlling the spread of coyotes and their numbers far exceed the number taken by hunters. Trapping coyotes does not work well at all as they are usually too smart to be taken with traps.
Science has shown that coyotes take a heavy toll on whitetail fawns. At least one study found that coyotes can eat as many as 75 percent of the fawns born in a single spring and deer populations are declining in some parts of the country, possibly as a result of an increase in coyote numbers.
Coyotes have spread to 49 states in the USA and are presently the most abundant livestock predators in North America, causing the majority of sheep, goat, and cattle losses. Hundreds of thousands of sheep, cattle, and goats fall victim to predators each year. In fact, predators cause some of the most significant losses to the sheep industry nationwide. Livestock losses attributed to predators cost U.S. ranchers and producers more than $71 million annually, according to statistics compiled by the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s (USDA) NationalAgricultural Statistics Service (NASS).
The coyote (Canis latrans) is a species of canine native to North America. It is smaller than its close relative, the wolf, and slightly smaller than the closely related eastern wolf and red wolf. It fills much of the same ecological niche as the golden jackal does in Eurasia. The coyote is larger and more predatory and was once referred to as the American jackal by a behavioral ecologist. Other historical names for the species include the prairie wolf and the brush wolf.
Nice to see a video where its straight to the point. Thabk you for making this.
Heck, at these closer distances, looking at big ol cows, a 256 would probably be good enough. Thanks for sharing. The 640 is clearer but the 384 is plenty good, to me anyhow.
1:17 good example of you look at the freeze frame 2.5x is a significantly wider field of view and much more crisp on the fence line. Your 5x res will be about the same as the 3x on the lower end scope.
I have an AGM ADDER TS50-384 with 4x base magnification. I only coyote hunt and don't shoot past 200 yds. I can easily identify coyotes at this range and the 4x base magnification is plenty for shots at these distances without zooming. The base magnification might be a bit much for hog hunting but is perfect for what I do. In short, I don't think I would gain anything by going to a 640 scope but that is my opinion. Thanks for the great comparison.
The 640 might be worth it if you're making longer range shots. But I've taken coyotes at 400+ yards with a 320 sensor and didn't feel that I had to have more clarity. It would certainly be nice, but it's a hell of a lot of money. Personally, I'd rather go with a clip on 384 rather than drop the extra on a 640.
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Thank you. Can you do one on high end expensive stuff. I'm not rich but would wait and save if their is a major difference.
My top picks are the Pulsar Thermion XP50 Pro, the InfiRay Bolt TH50-C and the N-Vision Halo-X. You can find reviews and hunt videos on all of these @theolddeerhunters. ruclips.net/channel/UCKSZL-CUbG26cRcAyI2tbxw
Respect sir
Nice. Thanks for this comparison. Looking to start getting into thermal
me too, very confused
true fucking story..i have tbi. the struggles are real
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Nice video how close is the 640 to high end scopes the price I see is 2000$ diff on scopes thanks
I really like the Varmint 384's, but for 640's I prefer Pulsar or InfiRay
Thanks don’t want a long tube looking for compact dual purpose hand held or gun mount
@@cliftongolden2 Super Yoter. ruclips.net/video/ZlGRanOrWL4/видео.html
Me and a buddy have rattlers I have 384 he has 640 no question the 640 is better hands down. That being said we rarely shoot over 150 yards so the 384 does just fine
They are both good. That scope put AGM on the map
been watching a vid on here it says when you crank the mag up on a 640 thermal it becomes a 384 is that true if so go for the 384
All thermal scopes have digital magnification. The resolution is cut in half when you double the magnification so if a 640 scope has a base power of 3X, the resolution goes down to 320 when you jump from 3X to 6X. 384 scopes work same way. Double magnification and loses half the resolution. You also loose half your field of view. Scopes in the 2.5-3X are your best bet to give you good overall performance whether it is 640 or 384.
possibly might do more woods hunting than fields i have been doing tons of reading maybe over researching
Do you have any questions?
Woods is tough go to the fields unless super open woods.
The 384 with higher base mag is better to me once you zoom once on the 640 the pic is not as good as the 384.
I think you are correct.
I agree but depends if its open fields or forest as base mag in forest with smaller frame of view be alot harder than 640
What was the temperature during the filming?
Spring 2023
@@Theolddeerhunters I have two ATN thermals and one ATN digital NV. They all seem to take a major shit in cold North Dakota weather (15ºF and below).
They both showed the different cuts of beef 🥩 while still on the huff. I’ll take both please
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both these scopes should have the same objective lens, for the best comparison
There are only two Varmint models. Lens size is not an option like some scopes.
@@Theolddeerhunters I was referring to a comparison between AGM VARMINT LRF TS50-384 and the AGM VARMINT LRF TS50-640. Or vise versa, with both models having the 35mm objective.
@@davidsanford2711 if I get the chance to compare two with same lens size I do another comparison video. Thanks for your comments.
@@Theolddeerhunters After a ton of research, yesterday I purchased a AGM Adder TS50-384 for coyote hunting. Outdoor Legacy as well as you played a major role in my decision of scopes. You guys just keep up the good work of HELPING us consumers make good choices!!! We need your youtube videos with comparisons of scopes. Trying to find a hands on thermal to compare is impossible in my area.
@@davidsanford2711 thank you so much. Send us a pic of your first yote with the new scope.
better resolution on the detector without better detection in the NETD department is close to being useless
You might want to consider that most brands of scopes have the same NETD on their 384 and 640 scopes, yet the 640's always have better image. Pulsar pro series XQ & XP have same NETD of 25. Their new XG 640 has NETD of 40 but the image is on oar with the XP and much better than the XQ.
640 and 384 is the difference between brainshot and faceshot at 100yards
My buddies 384 i-Ray has way better of a picture than my agm 384
i believe 384 consumes less battery than 640. I think people should consider this as part of their options.
It uses standard 18650 rechargeable so power consumption is not much of a problem.
The thermal imager AGM Fuzion LRF TM35-640 does not show human heat more than 100 meters in the red palette. The device does not meet the characteristics declared by the manufacturer. Checked in Ukraine by the military. This is very unpleasant. Technical support of the manufacturer cannot help.
I don't know anyone that uses the red pallet. All manufacturers red hot pallet sucks. Stick with white hot or black hot. I prefer white hot. Pulsar and others are the same
Really the red hot pallet is just white hot but highlights the white hot spots with red. It is definitely showing the heat of a human at least 1500 yards away just not putting the extra red on it. Not overlaying the extra red hot isn't that big of a deal. Like I said before no one's red hot pallet is very good. Stick with white hot
AGM made it sound like there donating/ discounting the products. Which is awesome and the reason I purchased my latest 640 from them. If you want superior image quality tho Iray is the way to go. I'd put pulsar down as second behind Iray
But I love that AGM has takes generic lithium batteries that can be swapped out. They don't force the user to buy proprietary overpriced batteries like pulsar does. Tho I wasn't very impressed that there optics are made in PRC. Thought I was buying an American made thermal. Not Chinese
Look. I need one good for 300 yards. Which one? Ts35-384? Or 640?
640 is better but but neither are good for shots past 200
Which would be good for about 300 yards?
@@Susejsusejsusej you can see coyotes at 300 but these scopes are too low base power to be making 300 yd shots. Get them in to 150 shots pretty easy. The 640 will give you same image quality at 5X the 384 has at 3X. Look at this video. Coyote spotted at 300, shot at 150 with 384. ruclips.net/video/4VqPPFFF2rQ/видео.htmlfeature=shared