Whatever happens in the last 3 games should have no bearing on the future decision at least regarding Mayo. We've already seen an extreme amount of evidence that he is not even close to being ready to be a head coach and it's very possible, he may never be. If it weren't for the premature exit of Belichick and the stupid promise to Mayo, Vrabel would have been hired when he became available. Do the right thing and fix the bad decision this offseason or else this team is going to be terrible for quite a few years
@@tomtalley2192 I wouldn't have a problem with that but Vrabel would probably want to bring in his own guy and although AVP has done a good job with Maye, there are still other guys who are better
There is not a single item on Mayo’s resume that qualifies him to be an NFL head coach. He should be spending the next 5 years building a reputation as an outstanding Defensive Coordinator. If he can’t do that job extremely well, then he has no business being a head coach. His appointment is a JOKE and a slap in the face to other coaches who are far more qualified than he is.
@@butterbeanfarmer7952 well think about it I mean they only gotta loose one more game next year an that will definitely lock up the #1 over all pick and that will be worth a fortune with Arch Manning coming up in the draft !!! 🤷🤷🤷 We don't need him but dang is that pick worth a lot !!!!
Tell Mike that you don't need to be a football savant to know when the product sux, when people are out of position, when receivers ran the wrong route or when there's poor effort and bad angles by tacklers
Have people forgotten that not only is Mayo a first year head coach, but Van Pelt and Covington are rookies in their positions also. All three are green and unproven. They are learning on the job! Their top three coaching positions! That is crazy!
#1 is Mayo wake up. He is the HC ..he can't do a game plan...he can't do half-time adjustments...he rats his coaches out on tv... he has no discipline..it starts with him .. he is lost ...he is clueless ..he sucks. He is in way over his head. Give him 2 years or 5 years, and nothing will change. The Krafts won't fire the snitch boy. So the Pats are the new Jets.
AVP looks and sounds like the only real coach in the organization. All the other ones are just pretending. AVP might not have had the best year (with a garbage roster) but he literally sounds like the only actual coach on this roster. If they fire him and not Mayo and or Covington, seats are going to be empty next year. Guarantee it.
It’s obvious with anyone with that this entire coaching staff needs to go but also the entire front office since they cannot draft. If all they do is get rid of AVP then get ready for another wasted year in 2025.
They are lucky to have AVP. I think he would be an upgrade over Mayo as HC. At least he stays on message and doesn't throw anyone under the bus. No decent OC is gonna wanna come here to work for Mayo. Drake loves him so if it's a matter of play calling why can't Mayo step in and say hey I don't wanna run here? Mayo is the one in over his head. Bring in Vrabel and hold on to AVP unless you can get Daboll.
I don't think the play calling is even an issue. AVP is focused on not getting this kid demolished behind that bad line or taking hits running out of the pocket constantly. Seems like he's doing better than Mayo thinking about the future of the team.
I’d like to see Vrabel comeback as the HC and for Mayo to fall back into the DC job to give him a chance to at least stay with the organization, then bring back McDaniels as the OC I know that’s a wish, a hope and a prayer and that won’t happen but ideally would love to see that happen. I mean even if we could get Vrabel back as the HC and McDaniels back as the OC I think that would be a excellent move forward to building the team
*So if they fire the coordinators…What coaches are going to want to work under Mayo? You know after watching him CONSTANTLY say stupid shit then have to walk it back a day later…TIME AND TIME AGAIN. And THEN…watching him so willingly throw his coordinator throw his coach under the bus…like when he told his player that they were “soft”. This team looks INCREASINGLY undisciplined and fundamentally worse as the games go on…that solely falls on coaching. I was shockingly still going to give Mayo a chance seeing how horrible the front office was as they decided to not address the tackle positions with ANY seriousness and allowing our offense to systematically collapse every game. But after his comments throwing AVP under the bus…see ya dude.*
So their response to a bad season is to fire the best coach on their staff? He has Drake Maye in a good spot and is trying to keep the kid from getting demolished behind that awful offensive line. I liked the AVP hiring and still do. The franchise will lose all credibility if they fire him as a scapegoat. Nobody would want to coach or play there.
You either want the best people you can get, or you don’t. Patriots used to talk about being the standard. Now? It’s who is who’s buddy. Disastrous unless ownership realizes they need to get back to their “greatness” identity.
I can tell you the linebackers are non existent.. The DB's play a lot of zone except Gonzo who plays man.. Its hard to tell all of what the D is doing from the TV view, you have to see it live.
So they could barely find an OC last year who would take the job and had to settle on AVP, and now it’s going to be EVEN HARDER to find a new OC next year? Yeah I’m sure that will just go great
So you didn't see a good Patriots team before Brady left ??? 🤷🤷🤷🤷 I mean I'm 42 and I witnessed 20 years of fantastic dominance!! I'm not sure what you were watching 😂😂😂 !!!
There is nothing about the product on the field that looks good. Mayo and AVP aside, the O line and the T spot in particular has been a human turnstile- both in terms of personnel and pass protection. I think Mike and Josh could fix this mess, but whether the Kraft's are willing to move on from "family" remains to be seen.
Mayo needs to go. No decent OC or DC is goona come in here and work for him. Kraft made a.mistake promising Mayo the job and ultimately limiting his options.. you know your drafting who you hope will be your franchise qb. You DONT hire an unproven HC and lame ass OC to help him grow. Wheres the stability? How many offenses is Maye going to have to learn in his first 3 or 4 years? Clean house NOW and get it right!
Avp deserves another year with better skilled players he’s a great guy he’s developing drake they both need weapons and a line then we will c. Go pats!!!! It’s a rebuild people patience
There are plenty of reasons to criticize this coach, but his race is not one of them. All you are doing is showing you are a racist and once again proving racism is alive and well in Boston.
What did people honestly expect? Kraft traded top 2 passs rushers, failed to sign Calvin Ridley, year after year refusing to pay for top talent. This is a broken record but people don’t get it’s the owner not the coaches. Coaches are scapegoats
I’d be impressed if Robert Kraft acknowledged he was wrong, that he made a mistake. Unfortunately, we all know he won’t do this. Instead, he’ll allow his ego to destroy the team. Giving Mayo another year to see if he’s a good coach is a fantasy that may save Mr. Kraft a little face but that’s all it’ll do. It’s extremely clear Mayo’s the same man in the locker room and on the field that we see and hear at the podium! He’s a low IQ, bumbling, jerk who regularly throws players and now coaches under the bus. He’s not a leader. If Mayo returns, write off 2025 because it’ll be the same or an even worse mess. Stop the bleed, admit the mistake and do a legitimate head coach search, not the half-assed DEI sham that created this disaster.
I am officially NOT a Patriots fan anymore if they scapegoat AVP! Not because he has done a great job...But Mayo has turned out to be a snake, and a horrible head coach! The DC has no experience and stinks! And the Krafts are totally delusional! TB12 and BB are the ONLY reason this franchise has had success. If this HC and front office (that can't draft talent) stay...I'm out. The cheap owners hire cheap $$ coaches and shitty $$ free agents! Kraft in the HOF?? 😂😂 For what?? Being 27th in payroll for the last 25 years??
All of this is covering for the Krafts; they are the ones who hired a rookie Head Coach because vibes, and then surrounded him with rookies and a terrible roster. No-one thought this year was going to be successful.
Clffburden, thank you,i thought i was the the only one who could see this.i thought this was mississippi. Give him the worst team in nfl and criticize for the way walk,talk,body language, makes hate I'm a patriots fan.
Bro…. ALL THIS, new coordinators, football overlord, who’s in who’s out who could replace who, who would want to come in, ALL THIS, just not to fire Jerod Mayo. All this is considered, except firing Jerod Mayo…. Smfh
Jerod Mayo (worst coach in the NFL) will never reach 10 wins in his ridiculous tenure as head coach of the Patriots. Robert Kraft went from mega popular likable owner to some cheapskate poverty franchise owner in a friggin instant. RK was so lucky to have the GOAT fall into his lap at 199. Also, I hope the Bills somehow manage to get close to 80 points (72-13 sounds nice) on us this weekend, a disaster like that could be the only thing to snap RK back to reality and dump the backstabbing low IQ chump he handed the job to for some unknown reason and get a real coach.
Of course next year same sheet happens no playoffs 2025. This is clown joke team and owners. Last year I remember 4 games won. This year 3 games. They think QB Drake Maye can carry that team. One guy can’t hold the team or win every game. All positions bad talent.
Firing your first time head coach is never the answer! Mayo earned his opportunity whether people choose to admit it or not, and one season is not enough time to evaluate his capabilities. As a Pats fan I'm so sick of all the closet racism in every comment section. Just admit that y'all don't like Coach Mayo because he's black and shut the heck up already!
They can bring back josh McDaniels yes he is not a head coach, but he a proven winner when it comes to be an OC look what he did with Mac Jones in his rookie year and look at Jones after McDaniels left
AVP has done the best job of all the coaches. And that’s not saying much.
Special teams coach begs to differ lol. Special teams is the only way this team scores points. Offense is worse than my high school football team.
The Krafts have fallen so far that they would rather keep an inept coach than admit they made a mistake.
It’s sad to watch and as a pats fan it feels gross
Whatever happens in the last 3 games should have no bearing on the future decision at least regarding Mayo. We've already seen an extreme amount of evidence that he is not even close to being ready to be a head coach and it's very possible, he may never be. If it weren't for the premature exit of Belichick and the stupid promise to Mayo, Vrabel would have been hired when he became available. Do the right thing and fix the bad decision this offseason or else this team is going to be terrible for quite a few years
If they hired Vrable, it would be good to keep AVP as a QB coach.
@@tomtalley2192 I wouldn't have a problem with that but Vrabel would probably want to bring in his own guy and although AVP has done a good job with Maye, there are still other guys who are better
@@sharkmedia5969 I’m just praying that the Krafts are seriously considering firing him, but don’t want to cause a PR mess while the season is ongoing
Agreed!!
There is not a single item on Mayo’s resume that qualifies him to be an NFL head coach. He should be spending the next 5 years building a reputation as an outstanding Defensive Coordinator. If he can’t do that job extremely well, then he has no business being a head coach. His appointment is a JOKE and a slap in the face to other coaches who are far more qualified than he is.
So if Mayo stays another year we get a first round pick
You mean first overall pick 😂😂😂 everyone gets a first round pick 😂😂 !!
@jahmanglass5 lol
@@butterbeanfarmer7952 well think about it I mean they only gotta loose one more game next year an that will definitely lock up the #1 over all pick and that will be worth a fortune with Arch Manning coming up in the draft !!! 🤷🤷🤷 We don't need him but dang is that pick worth a lot !!!!
@butterbeanfarmer7952 if they try hard enough im sure they can hit the 2-17 mark for sure !! 🤣🤣
Tell Mike that you don't need to be a football savant to know when the product sux, when people are out of position, when receivers ran the wrong route or when there's poor effort and bad angles by tacklers
Have people forgotten that not only is Mayo a first year head coach, but Van Pelt and Covington are rookies in their positions also. All three are green and unproven. They are learning on the job! Their top three coaching positions! That is crazy!
AVP is the scapegoat , he has done the best job of the top 3 coaches. Mayo needs to go or another wasted season ahead.
@@jimmorris4122 the best of a completely bad staff from top to bottom starting with the GM and all the way down, time to scrap it and move forward
They say the reason Vrabel had two losing season was because of the talent, were is the talent on this team.
AVP is not the biggest problem. Eliot Wolf is #1. Covington is #2. Mayo is #3. Van Pelt is #4. But they ALL need to go.
#1 is Mayo wake up. He is the HC ..he can't do a game plan...he can't do half-time adjustments...he rats his coaches out on tv... he has no discipline..it starts with him .. he is lost ...he is clueless ..he sucks. He is in way over his head. Give him 2 years or 5 years, and nothing will change.
The Krafts won't fire the snitch boy. So the Pats are the new Jets.
AVP looks and sounds like the only real coach in the organization. All the other ones are just pretending. AVP might not have had the best year (with a garbage roster) but he literally sounds like the only actual coach on this roster. If they fire him and not Mayo and or Covington, seats are going to be empty next year. Guarantee it.
Y’all think you’ve seen the worst of the defense- wait till you see these next three games.
It’s obvious with anyone with that this entire coaching staff needs to go but also the entire front office since they cannot draft. If all they do is get rid of AVP then get ready for another wasted year in 2025.
They are lucky to have AVP. I think he would be an upgrade over Mayo as HC. At least he stays on message and doesn't throw anyone under the bus. No decent OC is gonna wanna come here to work for Mayo. Drake loves him so if it's a matter of play calling why can't Mayo step in and say hey I don't wanna run here? Mayo is the one in over his head. Bring in Vrabel and hold on to AVP unless you can get Daboll.
I don't think the play calling is even an issue. AVP is focused on not getting this kid demolished behind that bad line or taking hits running out of the pocket constantly. Seems like he's doing better than Mayo thinking about the future of the team.
That would be stupid to get rid of Avp but keep Mayo. So potentially Drake can get 3 OC in 3 years!!
Don’t sleep on Vrabel x Daboll combo 📈📈
Maybe next year they can go WINLESS!
I’d like to see Vrabel comeback as the HC and for Mayo to fall back into the DC job to give him a chance to at least stay with the organization, then bring back McDaniels as the OC I know that’s a wish, a hope and a prayer and that won’t happen but ideally would love to see that happen. I mean even if we could get Vrabel back as the HC and McDaniels back as the OC I think that would be a excellent move forward to building the team
McDaniels offense was stale 10 years ago
Avp will be the sacrificial lamb for rkk to try and save face and refusing to admit his mistake of hiring a hc with almost no expirence
@@bretmartel7469 agreed, but it's kinda wild cuz the offense has steadily improved and is outperforming the D
@@jonmermelstein1770 I'm far from impressed but he has sucked less then anyone else on the staff. Especially without being given a serviceable o line
Krafts literally turning into the next Jerry Jones.
*So if they fire the coordinators…What coaches are going to want to work under Mayo? You know after watching him CONSTANTLY say stupid shit then have to walk it back a day later…TIME AND TIME AGAIN. And THEN…watching him so willingly throw his coordinator throw his coach under the bus…like when he told his player that they were “soft”. This team looks INCREASINGLY undisciplined and fundamentally worse as the games go on…that solely falls on coaching. I was shockingly still going to give Mayo a chance seeing how horrible the front office was as they decided to not address the tackle positions with ANY seriousness and allowing our offense to systematically collapse every game. But after his comments throwing AVP under the bus…see ya dude.*
I urge Patriot fans to boycott the last home game.
Maybe the Krafts are gonna go Jets-style and use Madden ratings
Vrabel, Josh, Patricia.
@@Clearwater124 Not Patricia… seen enough of him
@@pnkflyd66 You may be right, is Romeo still alive?
The Krafts are snakes.
So what OC would come to work for Mayo? Because it would be a one year deal
Kraft stuck with Bill B after his first year.But Mayo doesn’t have the overall grasp and insight that Bill B had
the team would be best served with new ownership..
So their response to a bad season is to fire the best coach on their staff? He has Drake Maye in a good spot and is trying to keep the kid from getting demolished behind that awful offensive line. I liked the AVP hiring and still do. The franchise will lose all credibility if they fire him as a scapegoat. Nobody would want to coach or play there.
You either want the best people you can get, or you don’t. Patriots used to talk about being the standard. Now? It’s who is who’s buddy. Disastrous unless ownership realizes they need to get back to their “greatness” identity.
Drake HAS to say he likes the coach lmao
I can tell you the linebackers are non existent.. The DB's play a lot of zone except Gonzo who plays man.. Its hard to tell all of what the D is doing from the TV view, you have to see it live.
Kraft's taking the lazy way out scapegoating AVP. Logic would dictate you clean house top to bottom. An absolute train wreck.
They need a SCAPEGOAT. They’re not fooling anyone, Mayo is a floating Dumpster Fire.
So they could barely find an OC last year who would take the job and had to settle on AVP, and now it’s going to be EVEN HARDER to find a new OC next year? Yeah I’m sure that will just go great
Getting the feeling I may not see a good Patriots team in my lifetime (I'm 68)
So you didn't see a good Patriots team before Brady left ??? 🤷🤷🤷🤷 I mean I'm 42 and I witnessed 20 years of fantastic dominance!! I'm not sure what you were watching 😂😂😂 !!!
There is nothing about the product on the field that looks good. Mayo and AVP aside, the O line and the T spot in particular has been a human turnstile- both in terms of personnel and pass protection. I think Mike and Josh could fix this mess, but whether the Kraft's are willing to move on from "family" remains to be seen.
AVP: That does not sound good.
VRABEL. LETS FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Mayo needs to go. No decent OC or DC is goona come in here and work for him. Kraft made a.mistake promising Mayo the job and ultimately limiting his options.. you know your drafting who you hope will be your franchise qb. You DONT hire an unproven HC and lame ass OC to help him grow. Wheres the stability? How many offenses is Maye going to have to learn in his first 3 or 4 years? Clean house NOW and get it right!
Avp deserves another year with better skilled players he’s a great guy he’s developing drake they both need weapons and a line then we will c. Go pats!!!! It’s a rebuild people patience
DEI Mayo needs to be fired. Van Pelt is not the problem. The defense is atrocious.
There are plenty of reasons to criticize this coach, but his race is not one of them. All you are doing is showing you are a racist and once again proving racism is alive and well in Boston.
@@tonym8996
Mayo is the one who “sees color.”
AVP the only
Guy that deserves to stay lol
What did people honestly expect? Kraft traded top 2 passs rushers, failed to sign Calvin Ridley, year after year refusing to pay for top talent. This is a broken record but people don’t get it’s the owner not the coaches. Coaches are scapegoats
Anyone who plays madden knows what a cover 2 is. Even the guys who have never even played a down that play madden know what a cover 2 is.
I’d be impressed if Robert Kraft acknowledged he was wrong, that he made a mistake. Unfortunately, we all know he won’t do this. Instead, he’ll allow his ego to destroy the team. Giving Mayo another year to see if he’s a good coach is a fantasy that may save Mr. Kraft a little face but that’s all it’ll do. It’s extremely clear Mayo’s the same man in the locker room and on the field that we see and hear at the podium! He’s a low IQ, bumbling, jerk who regularly throws players and now coaches under the bus. He’s not a leader. If Mayo returns, write off 2025 because it’ll be the same or an even worse mess. Stop the bleed, admit the mistake and do a legitimate head coach search, not the half-assed DEI sham that created this disaster.
Seems to me that Jerod will keep his job so that he can learn his job.
@@gb-dt3vk he's not getting better. He seems like he's drowning and the next three games may be the worst yet.
You don't see no blaming belichick for this bad as- team. They find ever reason to blame mayo.
I am officially NOT a Patriots fan anymore if they scapegoat AVP! Not because he has done a great job...But Mayo has turned out to be a snake, and a horrible head coach! The DC has no experience and stinks! And the Krafts are totally delusional! TB12 and BB are the ONLY reason this franchise has had success. If this HC and front office (that can't draft talent) stay...I'm out. The cheap owners hire cheap $$ coaches and shitty $$ free agents! Kraft in the HOF?? 😂😂 For what?? Being 27th in payroll for the last 25 years??
I'd rather keep AVP and dumb Mayo.
All of this is covering for the Krafts; they are the ones who hired a rookie Head Coach because vibes, and then surrounded him with rookies and a terrible roster. No-one thought this year was going to be successful.
Josh McDaniels.
Clffburden, thank you,i thought i was the the only one who could see this.i thought this was mississippi. Give him the worst team in nfl and criticize for the way walk,talk,body language, makes hate I'm a patriots fan.
And DANTE!
So your telling me if mayo has a fluke good game, then all of a sudden he’s the guy lmao cmon
Bro…. ALL THIS, new coordinators, football overlord, who’s in who’s out who could replace who, who would want to come in, ALL THIS, just not to fire Jerod Mayo. All this is considered, except firing Jerod Mayo…. Smfh
I have been watching the Patriots for over 40 years. I’ve never seen such a horrible performance. They need to scrap this start over.
Vrabel should take the Giants head coach position reporting to new GM Jon Robinson.
I hope they lose by 200 last three games. And I don’t even want Vrabel. I don’t know how Kraft can go through another year of watching this crap.
Jerod Mayo (worst coach in the NFL) will never reach 10 wins in his ridiculous tenure as head coach of the Patriots. Robert Kraft went from mega popular likable owner to some cheapskate poverty franchise owner in a friggin instant. RK was so lucky to have the GOAT fall into his lap at 199. Also, I hope the Bills somehow manage to get close to 80 points (72-13 sounds nice) on us this weekend, a disaster like that could be the only thing to snap RK back to reality and dump the backstabbing low IQ chump he handed the job to for some unknown reason and get a real coach.
Of course next year same sheet happens no playoffs 2025. This is clown joke team and owners. Last year I remember 4 games won. This year 3 games. They think QB Drake Maye can carry that team. One guy can’t hold the team or win every game. All positions bad talent.
Mayo is terrible and the worst coach in the NFL. Each season he continues to coach is a joke.
I don't want Mike Vrabel or Josh McDaniels.
Firing your first time head coach is never the answer! Mayo earned his opportunity whether people choose to admit it or not, and one season is not enough time to evaluate his capabilities. As a Pats fan I'm so sick of all the closet racism in every comment section. Just admit that y'all don't like Coach Mayo because he's black and shut the heck up already!
They can bring back josh McDaniels yes he is not a head coach, but he a proven winner when it comes to be an OC look what he did with Mac Jones in his rookie year and look at Jones after McDaniels left