@@silviyandyuzev6870 just keep trying! I took 15 minutes just trying to get my tools "right" (shape, placement, length, etc), and after that it took me 15 minutes just applying tension and fiddling with the pins... i don't know exactly what i did, but i wiggled it for a while and it unlocked :')
thanks, my bike has this lock that has a chain you can lock into the side of it as well. but didn't realise it locked the wheel too and couldn't figure out how to get the key out once I put the chain in lol. Thanks now I see how it works.
Pro tip! The easiest way to open these is to force them open by beating the handle open with a hammer. It took me 3-4 light hits to open mine. Bear in mind this does destroy the lock and you will need to replace it. Do this at your own risk and keep it in mind when shopping for bike locks.
If you drill the brass pins inside with a drill bit it is supper fast. The newer axe locks have the steel pins so harder to drill. I would think a wafer jiggling pick would work faster and easier then a hook pick. Perhaps even a city rake or worm pick.
Axa locks are fine for short-term use (there's a reason they're referred to as 'cafe locks') *provided* you use the chain / cable that plugs into the hole in the top of the lock to secure the bicycle to a solid object, preventing someone from carrying the bike away and throwing it into a van. If they somehow manage to cut through the cable, they're still unable to ride the bike away because of the spoke lock. Not foolproof (what is?) but will defeat 90% of bicycle thieves.
Nice idea for a lock,just a shame it's a wafer lock!!! I think by the sound of the plastic it would be easily broken to gain entry( not that it's needed) Great work as I usual👍🔓😘😘
i have an AXA lock too, i was trying to do same as you but looks like the key hole does not allow to insert a tension tool...in your case the tension tool fits very good but in my case it almost does not fit, i can't do a proper tension, or its hard to insert at the same time a tension tool and the picking tool....how do yo deal with that?? in case that helps, in the lock there is written "AXA Rock".
You should try different size and type of wrenches. Also consider using two tensioners so you can free one side at a time. But I don't know how the keyway looks like.
How to remove the AXA lock without the keyhole to stick your key in? I have my keys but I dont know where is the keyhole.. now I cant use my bike which I just bought the other day😢
The frame lock I have as another additional wire lock that attaches to it. So with these two lock systems, I figure my bike is pretty safe for going into stores and leaving for a day in a busy area.
Hello, I have a similar locker on my bike with the chain attached on the locker, but the key is not working anymore (It barely enters into the locker like if was a different key). I tried WD-40 but still not open. Feels like the key was not the correct one, or someone damaged the locker by trying to open it or something. Nobody wants to break the chain or open in because I have the bike parked on the street. Do you have an idea how to solve it?
First, have a lock with that you can secure the bicycle on a fixed object. If it can be carried away the best lock is useless. Then have a lock that cannot be easily cut. I prefer something like that www.abus.com/ger/Sicherheit-Unterwegs/Fahrradsicherheit/Fahrradschloesser/Buegelschloesser/GRANIT-X-Plus-540 it can be attached easily in the frame of your bike. I also like that it's a disk detainer locking mechanism, hence no springs are involved what makes it robust against wear-out and humidity and freeze. It's also much harder to pick. The keyway cover is also very helpful to prevent the lock getting dirty.
Cannot really remember. But it's a simple wafer lock and not very precise. So start with heavier tension and when you feel that you cannot set the wafers then release a bit.
Hi everyone can a ABUS or AXA lock similar to this be damaged if not lock picked correctly etc, does anyone know please. Great video thankyou very much.
@@Potti314 some of the newer models require that you put pressure on the lever in order to tension the core. The shackle will lock the core in place when there is no pressure applied. So on a bike you have to have one hand on the other side of the bike to tension the shackle, which makes it harder to tension and rake the lock.
+Potti314 so if i'll do it with a half diamond, it'll work, and go as fast (with practise) as you can do it? the only reason why i ask, is because that i've lost my key to my bicycle wheel lock, and it's the 3'rd time it happens. so i thought that i'd be a good idea to know how to lockpick it, so that i can open it next time it happens (2 of the times, my keys got stolen).
+Marc Knudsen Half diamond is fine I guess. Actually a snow man or a "8" pick is most appropriate to pick such locks. The tolerances are not that tight and oversetting is not really an issue. That's why a raking type approach with the above mentioned picks will work very often. Keep in mind that the place where the lock is attached may disturb a comfortable access in contrast to the desk situation.
Hi Potti, have you tried the Axa Defender? It has a restrictive slider core, and while it's been around for more than 10 years (i think), I haven't seen someone pick it on youtube yet. I can send you a used one if you like. Best regards, E.
AXA! This is so sad that this ancient attack works on your slot / lock!!! Why?! This is what I would have expected of Kryptonite. And to think I upgraded my older AXA wheel locks to the SL7 for more security years ago. ;-(
@@Potti314 I have similar keyway axa lock, but a bit smaller. I've been having a lot of trouble picking the lock because the tension rod takes all the space
@@Lortagreb OK, now I got you. The problem with this lock is not that it can be picked (easily) but that it still allows a thieve to carry away your bike. Picking and raking is not at all a common method to steal or break into something. Criminals don't do that - too unreliable and time-consuming. Personally I would not use these spoke-blocking locks. First, if a thieve is not aware of it and thinks the bike is unlocked, he/she will bend some spokes when trying to drive away. Second, professional thieves will be able to easily carry it to their truck. I use an u-shaped lock from hardened steel and always secure my bike to a fixed object (traffic sign post, etc.). Sure, an angle grinder will cut it through, but it makes noise and takes a while and other methods of breaking it will fail.
@@Potti314 I was wondering if a lock like this is still good as a back up lock, just to keep the wheel from being removed while having a d lock for the front [attaching it to the frame ofc]. Otherwise I'm off to go buy a chain lock.
@@felikannd you can get a cable or chain, sold separately, that plugs into the hole on AXA locks and allows you to lock the bike (and the front wheel) together around a solid object.
They did a free callback on all the SL7’s because they were laughable easy to bypass. If you like I can provide you with some improved ones; would love to see you pick those so we can all learn from it. Love your channel! Keep posting 😉
In Holland they usually have the allround key and open it with that. That`s the key from wich they make the key. See here ruclips.net/video/RCMjbZg7pB4/видео.html. Or else you can do it this way ruclips.net/video/mYcwJjOxBy8/видео.html .
See movie 'Wat iedereen hoort weten over Axa' on how to open this lock much easier with a blanc key. This ran in 2007. Now try lock picking the newer Axa Defender lock ruclips.net/video/BbVnjg9wiJE/видео.html
Beware with AXA locks, thieves can open these locks with a so called motherkey... Many e-bikes in Holland are stolen this way...,always use a second lock next to your AXA lock.
Развлечения
I lost my key and I’m looking at videos to crack my OWN bike lock 😂
Haha same here!
Same story.
Same
Same
Same lol
thank you! I lost my key just before my exams and i used a paperclip and bobby pin and it worked, fairly easy to be honest!
How did you manage, I have the tools but still can't open it...
@@silviyandyuzev6870 just keep trying! I took 15 minutes just trying to get my tools "right" (shape, placement, length, etc), and after that it took me 15 minutes just applying tension and fiddling with the pins... i don't know exactly what i did, but i wiggled it for a while and it unlocked :')
wie is er nog meer zn sleutels kwijt?!!
I don't understand, sorry.
dirk buijtendorp He is Dutch. He said: Who else lost his key?
A lot of people who lost their key are watching this kind of video.
Ah, thank you. Hope these people are patient enough to learn picking ;-)
IKKUH xD
dirk buijtendorp ik
thanks, my bike has this lock that has a chain you can lock into the side of it as well. but didn't realise it locked the wheel too and couldn't figure out how to get the key out once I put the chain in lol. Thanks now I see how it works.
Thanks, I managed to pick the SL9 in about 10 mins after finding this video :)
Very nicely done buddy and reminds me of of an Abus bike "D" lock I picked a while back. Opened so fast.
+waddac2 Thanks for watching mate. Yes I remember, you jiggled it open. These cheap wafer locks are crap.
Thanks, I picked one thanks to your video.
Great :-)
7 years later but thanks for the video, bike unlocked in less than 5 minutes
fast work Michael!
+richardwales Thank you Rick. The only challenge is to tension the plug but these cheap wafer locks open like nothing.
Help! I lost my keys while the wheel is locked. What should I do?
Pro tip! The easiest way to open these is to force them open by beating the handle open with a hammer. It took me 3-4 light hits to open mine. Bear in mind this does destroy the lock and you will need to replace it. Do this at your own risk and keep it in mind when shopping for bike locks.
abierto rapido. usted siempre sabe como hacerlo. SALUDOS MICHAEL
+adrian leon Thanks Adrian. That was an easy one. It's so nice to get so much different locks to play with.
If you drill the brass pins inside with a drill bit it is supper fast. The newer axe locks have the steel pins so harder to drill. I would think a wafer jiggling pick would work faster and easier then a hook pick. Perhaps even a city rake or worm pick.
Axa locks are fine for short-term use (there's a reason they're referred to as 'cafe locks') *provided* you use the chain / cable that plugs into the hole in the top of the lock to secure the bicycle to a solid object, preventing someone from carrying the bike away and throwing it into a van. If they somehow manage to cut through the cable, they're still unable to ride the bike away because of the spoke lock. Not foolproof (what is?) but will defeat 90% of bicycle thieves.
Yes, agree - short time protection against casual thieves.
Nice idea for a lock,just a shame it's a wafer lock!!!
I think by the sound of the plastic it would be easily broken to gain entry( not that it's needed)
Great work as I usual👍🔓😘😘
+Pick Beard Thank you. The plastic is quite stable, seems to not break easily.
Great job.
+Aspie Pickerr Thanks.
i have an AXA lock too, i was trying to do same as you but looks like the key hole does not allow to insert a tension tool...in your case the tension tool fits very good but in my case it almost does not fit, i can't do a proper tension, or its hard to insert at the same time a tension tool and the picking tool....how do yo deal with that?? in case that helps, in the lock there is written "AXA Rock".
You should try different size and type of wrenches. Also consider using two tensioners so you can free one side at a time. But I don't know how the keyway looks like.
How to remove the AXA lock without the keyhole to stick your key in? I have my keys but I dont know where is the keyhole.. now I cant use my bike which I just bought the other day😢
The frame lock I have as another additional wire lock that attaches to it. So with these two lock systems, I figure my bike is pretty safe for going into stores and leaving for a day in a busy area.
Agree, two lock is a good choice.
Thank you very much
You're welcome.
Hello, I have a similar locker on my bike with the chain attached on the locker, but the key is not working anymore (It barely enters into the locker like if was a different key). I tried WD-40 but still not open. Feels like the key was not the correct one, or someone damaged the locker by trying to open it or something. Nobody wants to break the chain or open in because I have the bike parked on the street. Do you have an idea how to solve it?
Could you recommend few locks with are really hard or impossible to broke?
First, have a lock with that you can secure the bicycle on a fixed object. If it can be carried away the best lock is useless. Then have a lock that cannot be easily cut. I prefer something like that www.abus.com/ger/Sicherheit-Unterwegs/Fahrradsicherheit/Fahrradschloesser/Buegelschloesser/GRANIT-X-Plus-540 it can be attached easily in the frame of your bike. I also like that it's a disk detainer locking mechanism, hence no springs are involved what makes it robust against wear-out and humidity and freeze. It's also much harder to pick. The keyway cover is also very helpful to prevent the lock getting dirty.
wow, that's cool!
+Jeff Moss Thank you.
How Can i g’et it open if i dont have a picking set
About what level of tension are you using for this particular lock?
Cannot really remember. But it's a simple wafer lock and not very precise. So start with heavier tension and when you feel that you cannot set the wafers then release a bit.
Hi everyone can a ABUS or AXA lock similar to this be damaged if not lock picked correctly etc, does anyone know please. Great video thankyou very much.
Thank you 😍 I Love you
Cheers :-)
.
?
There is a trick with a blank key for these kinds of locks so it is easily opened by everyone that knows the trick.
Yeah, I can imagine that making a master key is easy.
Thats why one should use multiple locks of different types. And always keep his bicycle at home ))))
+minus1 Yes, totally agree with multiple locks.
BTW: Very cool name and logo ;-)
Potti314
You are welcome ))
That's weird, I have the same lock and cannot get it to open at all! Also, the one I have laying around seems to be a newer model.
Try to find out what's special on yours and keep on picking - good luck.
@@Potti314 some of the newer models require that you put pressure on the lever in order to tension the core. The shackle will lock the core in place when there is no pressure applied. So on a bike you have to have one hand on the other side of the bike to tension the shackle, which makes it harder to tension and rake the lock.
@@fermitupoupon1754 Ok, I see - thanks for the info.
does it work as good with a lockgun? or are pens better?
+Marc Knudsen I don't have a lockgun to test and a pen could maybe used for a circular lock.
+Potti314 so if i'll do it with a half diamond, it'll work, and go as fast (with practise) as you can do it?
the only reason why i ask, is because that i've lost my key to my bicycle wheel lock, and it's the 3'rd time it happens.
so i thought that i'd be a good idea to know how to lockpick it, so that i can open it next time it happens (2 of the times, my keys got stolen).
+Marc Knudsen Half diamond is fine I guess. Actually a snow man or a "8" pick is most appropriate to pick such locks.
The tolerances are not that tight and oversetting is not really an issue. That's why a raking type approach with the above mentioned picks will work very often.
Keep in mind that the place where the lock is attached may disturb a comfortable access in contrast to the desk situation.
+Potti314 thank you so much for the fast reply, and all the good advise. i really appreciate it.
Hi Potti, have you tried the Axa Defender? It has a restrictive slider core, and while it's been around for more than 10 years (i think), I haven't seen someone pick it on youtube yet. I can send you a used one if you like. Best regards, E.
Not tried that one yet. But currently I'm taking a break from picking. Thanks anyway.
Where I can buy
ik ben mijn sleutel kwijt en kan iemand me helpen
Try to rake it. Or use a pipe wrench to bend it open.
freee lange Ik heb Axa moedersleutels
Als je interessen mail naar keesvanputten9@outlook.com
freee lange Voor sleutel stuur een bericht via wickr. Mijn naam is Tinus
Of mail naar Tinus-026@protonmail.com
@@bertheineken1341 heb je nog de moedersleutel?
Same
AXA! This is so sad that this ancient attack works on your slot / lock!!! Why?! This is what I would have expected of Kryptonite. And to think I upgraded my older AXA wheel locks to the SL7 for more security years ago. ;-(
I wouldn't worry too much about the picking vulnerability. I believe that thieves would rather carry it away than pick it ;-)
@@Potti314 I have similar keyway axa lock, but a bit smaller. I've been having a lot of trouble picking the lock because the tension rod takes all the space
Wie gaat er een fiets stelen?
Niemand.
Where can you buy those tools
Check out thinkpeterson. But also cheaper tools like goso will do.
It's a fun lock but probably should never really be used anywhere. You would make a good criminal! Haha 😁👍
Haha, I believe a criminal would have carried the bike away and put it in a van ;-)
Potti314 for sure they would! :)
Do you have any recommendations of a safe lock?
No, sorry. I'm not into safes.
@@Potti314 Oh, haha. I just mean a lock thats safe. Same style as the video. Hahaha. Not sure if youre pulling my leg here.
@@Lortagreb OK, now I got you. The problem with this lock is not that it can be picked (easily) but that it still allows a thieve to carry away your bike. Picking and raking is not at all a common method to steal or break into something. Criminals don't do that - too unreliable and time-consuming. Personally I would not use these spoke-blocking locks. First, if a thieve is not aware of it and thinks the bike is unlocked, he/she will bend some spokes when trying to drive away. Second, professional thieves will be able to easily carry it to their truck. I use an u-shaped lock from hardened steel and always secure my bike to a fixed object (traffic sign post, etc.). Sure, an angle grinder will cut it through, but it makes noise and takes a while and other methods of breaking it will fail.
@@Potti314 I was wondering if a lock like this is still good as a back up lock, just to keep the wheel from being removed while having a d lock for the front [attaching it to the frame ofc]. Otherwise I'm off to go buy a chain lock.
@@felikannd you can get a cable or chain, sold separately, that plugs into the hole on AXA locks and allows you to lock the bike (and the front wheel) together around a solid object.
Only bad thing is... after you unlocked it.... you cant put in the key to lock it again.
Not that bad.
no cause we lost the key
Can you do other AXA series? Because de sl7 is well known for its security flaws and is easily raked as you can see.
I have no such locks to test.
@@Potti314 I understand 😄 when I have one I can send you if you like
They did a free callback on all the SL7’s because they were laughable easy to bypass. If you like I can provide you with some improved ones; would love to see you pick those so we can all learn from it. Love your channel! Keep posting 😉
Its easy to pick lock but i you only have the keyhole, as for me that is my problem
In Holland they usually have the allround key and open it with that. That`s the key from wich they make the key. See here ruclips.net/video/RCMjbZg7pB4/видео.html. Or else you can do it this way ruclips.net/video/mYcwJjOxBy8/видео.html .
I'm in skyrim again 💜
Of je haalt een slijptol :)
?
See movie 'Wat iedereen hoort weten over Axa' on how to open this lock much easier with a blanc key. This ran in 2007. Now try lock picking the newer Axa Defender lock ruclips.net/video/BbVnjg9wiJE/видео.html
Beware with AXA locks, thieves can open these locks with a so called motherkey... Many e-bikes in Holland are stolen this way...,always use a second lock next to your AXA lock.
Thanks for the warning.
Where can i buy these tools
Search for Peterson, Sparrows, Southord, Goso, Multipick online.
ho perso la chiave dove posso rivolgermi grz
A locksmith?
Same lock lost keys
Did you get it picked?
Mais bien sûr tout le monde ne s'appelle pas James Bond
Jame Bond - haha ;-)
My fucking key was lost thnx.
Is this jameski
No, it's me.
Dang. Why don't we all just hand our bikes over to the thieves?
You know that thieves prefer destructive entry methods? No thieve will pick a lock - takes too long and it not reliable and requires training.
@@Potti314 Could you please give an example of a destructive entry? I'm not familiar with that term.
@@sontheen Here you go ruclips.net/p/PLuSaKS-pr3L_wijV5_8vbh6N4TFEdHdUU Have fun.
@@Potti314 Thank you.
My bike is locked outside my house and i lost my keys.
Good luck with picking.