New Leadership Taking Over Calvary Chapel
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- New Leadership Taking Over Calvary Chapel By Pastor Paul Smith
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This breaks my heart. Chuck was an awesome man. It hurts me to see what other's have done to the pure ministry that Chuck started through the power of the Holy Spirit.
The problem with Calvary mode or method is the "Moses" way of doing church,one Pastor with no Elders.CLEARLY in the book of Acts Paul would ALWAYS when forming a local Church,find suitable Elders Plural more than one,A true Church is going to have a Plurality of Elders and Deacons
@@michaelorr9253, the Calvary Chapel I went to has Elders. I know every Calvary Chapel is different, Pastors decide how they want things to run, if they want to keep total control or if have Elders and others to help run the church.
@@Jmmoffa That is good to know I went to a high profile Baptist Church in California that had only Deacons and no Elders.
Just look at the state of CCCM and the downfall of Brian Brodersen today. As a staunch liberal, Brian is severely compromised with wokeness/wickedness, and he has squandered the entire surplus the Lord had blessed Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa with through Pastor Chuck's Godly wisdom and discipline over many decades. Personally and in ministry, Pastor Chuck Smith lived very humbly, and he was quite frugal in all areas. On the other hand, Brian Brodersen is the total opposite. The greatest loss; other than Pastor Chuck's absence (yet, heavens gain), is the loss of TRUTH.
@@michaelorr9253 You are correct. The office of "senior pastor" is totally unbiblical. The "Moses model" is unbiblical. Tithing is unbiblical. There is so much going on in the church that is not in the Bible that is absolutely mind boggling. Elders are there for accountability as well. But the "senior pastor" cannot be questioned. At least at the Calvary I used to attend.
"All things work together for good for those who love God and are called according to his purpose." Keep the faith Pastor Paul. God bless you!
Thank you for being faithful, Paul. I trust the Lord will remove the dross and keep the refined gold in His Church. Hearing you I begin to see how.
After Chuck’s death my husband and I left… It seemed to us that Brian couldn’t wait to get rid of everything that represented Chuck. The feel of the church had definitely change… We felt the Holy Spirit had left the church
Thank you for your faithful, although difficult testimony. May you be covered by the Lord’s protection and strength.
God Bless you, Pastor Paul Smith! 🙏❤
Carol Worth, Amen & Amen! 💖😃
You people mezmerized by Chuck Smith need to know the TRUTH about his teachings:
#1-He denied every core truth if Biblical salvation (Predestination unto salvation, Divine Election, Effectual Calling, Reprobation).
#2-He was deceived by and then taught dispensational theology that has a TON of false teachings built in---including the utterly false pre tribulation raptue.
#3-He denied the physical resurrection of the saints. According to the Apostle Paul, denial of the resurrection of the saints is a direct implication that Christ was not physically raised from the dead.
This list should boggle your mind and wake you up to start studying your Bible and church history. Dont be deceived by appearances! Jesus said "wo" unto you when all men speak well of you. Do you believe the Word of God? I would be happy to prove everything I said here (there are sound bites you can hear Chuck for yourself). Call me, Roy (714)655-1963.
Or message me here if you have any questions or doubt what I say.
@@classicjukebox You are obviously a Calvinist.
@@classicjukebox Yeah right, and that is why God so abundantly blessed ALL of Chucks efforts. Crawl back into your hole where you belong.
That's pretty sad how they got rid of Paul, Chucks own brother! That says a lot and this makes sense now as far as Brian and his wife I never ever could figure out why the Holy Spirit never spoke to me through them i tried many times to listen and it left me feeling confused each time. I thank God that my Calvary chapel home church is sticking with the pure Word of God. But I'm keeping my eyes open.
Amen
Amen. I’m so sorry for what has been done.
I accepted the Lords invitation while listening to Chuck, I wasn’t from Costa Mesa so I followed him from afar. But over the years I have been blessed by many different pastors from the Calvary branch, but just like you I have listened to Brian a few times and I just don’t get feed by the Holy Spirit. I pray that he would return to the original Calvary ideas , but all I see is a further split. So sad but it has happened to many churches and denominations over the years.
Thank You for standing by your brother, and for all the years of faithful teaching along with him. The key element of truth is right in the title of this video.." NEW leadership TAKING OVER Calvary Chapel". It is NOT leadership, it is controlled, and the words "TAKING OVER" is just that. They are TAKING and NOT GIVING & TEACHING in humble submission to God's Will. Chuck never did that! Chuck was like a second father to me growing up. I was there when "the little chapel" was brand new. Few of us have been blessed to be there from the humble beginning. How my heart hurts to see this happen. I will NEVER believe Romain, or You were ever "senile", and testify unto GOD that Chuck was NEVER without his sound mind and heart. Chuck saw this descent coming and so did I. One day I was denied seeing him as " I was not a written member of the church and therefore could not speak with him without prior authorization!". I was furious and said so. Chuck heard my voice in his office and knew me, came out, and asked me " Ahhh Bettie, what's wrong?" I told him the church had changed. They were no longer the church I grew up in and it didn't feel like "Home" any longer. The pastors were judgmental, arrogant, and too full of pride. To deny me seeing my true pastor since I was just a child and tell me I needed to get approval to see you and get in line & needed prior authorization?" I did not feel the Spirit of God in LOVE as it used to be. I felt a heartbreaking unrest and division with judgmental confusion that had never been there. Some pastors were "bending" the word to justify their personal desires and that CANNOT BE ALLOWED! Chuck just hung his head in shame. I will never forget it. He said he was sorry. He feared it was a product of " fame and progress that may cloud our human senses and allow Satin a disguised entry. He was, and always would be my PASTOR. He was there to serve and help through the love of God". We prayed & cried together. Chuck knew things were not as they should be. Once a person has known the true leadership and guidance of God through the absolute scripture as it is written they will not forget it. When that knowledge and trust is taken away, they don't know what they are missing & it will never be replaced again. This "new age church" is NOT what GOD desires. The truth as God spoke it in the Bible states issues very clearly. You are either WITH HIM OR AGAINST HIM. I would caution Brian, Cheryl, and all in charge now to read Rev 22:18-19 and THINK about what they are doing. If any man shall ADD anything to this book, God will add unto him the plagues of this earth..and if they SHALL TAKE AWAY from the words of this book, God shall take away his part OUT of the book of life... take caution. May God Bless you, Pastor Paul.
Thanks Paul. I'm very thankful to The Lord that He lead me to Pastor Chuck's sermons when I was a babe in Christ in 1981. It's sad what has happened since Chuck went to be w/The Lord. It's a shame but not a surprise that so many are now accusing Chuck of being false. The Lord said it would be this way in the "Last Days".
Before I was saved I was raised in the Catholic traditions which lasted for 21 yrs. When The Lord saved me the first thing I did was open up a bible to look up things the Catholic church taught me in my youth, Mary being born without sin, her being taken up to heaven like our Lord was, etc. I did not find those events anywhere in scripture and it was then I discovered I'd been lied to all of this time.
After learning those lies all those yrs. and then being lead by The Lord to learn The Truth of The Word of God from Pastor Chuck and reading scripture myself I can say for certain Chuck was true to The Word of God.
So for those who say these things about Chuck and for those who have left their 1st. love Christ Jesus and profaned His Word I say, soon it will be revealed who was false and who stayed true to The Word of The Lord, there is NO escaping it.
Even so return soon Lord Jesus.
I So agree with you, Thank you for your words and Thank God for Paul Smith leaving us with this truth. I agree that it is not shocking how the torch was shamelessly taken. Most anyone who served and/or attended CCCM b4 Chuck's passing knows, and more importantly God knows and sees all. Please pray for Brian and Cheryl to come to repentance as he openly supports the lawlessness caused by the "woke" movement today quite openly here on youtube. Jesus was angry with the lawlessness in His Father's house in His day on Earth and we all know He is the same yesterday, today, & tomorrow.
By the grace of God go we all.
Sir I loved your brother never have met this amazing man! I am new to becoming a christian and a dear friend turned me on to Chuck, this man has taught me so much! I am so sorry for your difficulties after your brothers moving on! I listen to him every day, multiple times a day. I cant get enough of him. I long for the day to shake his and your hand and thank him personally for teaching me so much! I have so much more to learn from him and his way of making the Word of GOD become alive for me.
Amen me too, my son Stephen M. Reyes, loves him so much, Pastor Smith had an anointing on his life, and, VERY SEASONED. I (MARIA STEPHEN MOM) LOVE TO LISTEN TO HIM TOO. NEVER MEET HIM LIKE STEPHEN. ONE DAY WILL BE WORSHPPING WITH JESUS,
I used to attend the main Calvary Chapel under Chuck Smith for a few years. This guy confirms my thoughts about the Calvary Chapels. They are stronger than a denomination and yes they are a Denomination and do everything they can never to say that they are in fact a very strong denomination ruled by the pastors only not by a body of Elders of each Church. They all go on a Moses Style of a Church leadership that whatever Moses says (that being the pastor) is what goes. They want everybody to think that they're freely following the Holy Spirit. Yes each Pastor claims to be following the Holy Spirit and everyone else should be in line with what he says. They don't practice the New Testament way of running a Church where everyone including the pastor is under the eldership. The new pastor the leadership of the original Calvary Chapel, Bryan Brodison, is in league and in bed with false teachers like Rick Warren and false ministries of Hillsong that have women as Pastors. In fact one of the Calvary Chapel's led by Pedro Garcia has ordained his wife as a pastor this is ridiculous.
Brian Broderson is not following the Calvary Chapel way, he is trying to change the movement which is why Chuck Smith before his death wanted to remove him. Chuck Smith's vision and others wanted a spiritual godly Christian to lead the movement and be faithful to the Distinctives. You mentioned that a certain Calvary Chapel pastor had his wife ordained as a pastor, well that pastor is not in line with the distinctives. The Calvary Chapel movement is strongly opposed to women pastors.
The Calvary Chapel movement is not a denomination. You can say it is, but it's not. Chuck Smith in his early days left denominationalism because of the control it had on his ministry. The movement is a loose affiliation, not a denomination. Every CC is completely independent and autonomous, there is no one controlling CC's. We are a family of churches that have the same doctrinal beliefs and distinctives which was Chuck Smiths vision. There are other loose affiliations that are not denominations, such as the IFCA International.
Your complaint about our church government was not fair. Any church government can be controlling. It depends on the maturity of the pastor. My pastor at CC is very humble and I'm thankful for that. We do see the Moses model in a modified way in the new testament. The Senior Pastor model is what we see leaning in the new testament. Every pastor is supposed to be humble and be a servant to the congregation God has called them to shepherd. There is nothing wrong with the Senior Pastor model unless the pastor gets puffed up and controlling, at that point they should not be pastoring.
i went to harvest in riverside a few weeks ago i felt it was different i felt the holy spirit was not there thats how i personally felt i am speaking 4 my self thats why we should always pray 4 God open our eyes to the truth may God bless u pastor Paul
I went to the Costa Mesa church from the tent then came back in 76..It was right on. Greg Laurie doesn't connect with his teaching..I'll leave it at that but I sense there is something not right with Greg.
I attended for over 22 years almost every Sunday. I left a few years ago and attended a few different Calvary's trying to patch things up with my wife. It didn't work out and she left me. I went back to Harvest once... there was an empty feeling. It no longer felt like home. I was just a number in some corporate organization.
I'm hearing major issues that these huge ministries are having. you not only have no real fellowship you wind up noticing all the silly theology of others and no fellowship at all. I'd stay far away from any huge Harvest or calvary, I personally think they are falling into the health and wellness business and just stroke people for $$$. They all earn up to 500k per year in salaries. They have their circuit of Calvary speakers and no one really new, they all must be on the payroll to keep the Coming Apocalypse extravaganza money coming in with a new talk every month. God help us! rick Warren, Greg Laurie, john McArthur are into the new apostolic theology! that is catholic mysticism, i grew up in the catholic church and realized they're teaching me B>S>
K B he’s a megalomaniac
Wow ... I knew I felt it gone ...it's actually began quite awhile back. I hadn't been to Harvest after moving and when i went and saw the sanctuary was darkened without windows .. NO !! That's wrong to shut out Gods beautiful light I thought. But not only that nothing was the same and then here in Oregon I noticed John Coursen was different and I felt funny around him. Then Ben took over as of recently and let people know that Bethel Redding wasn't bad at all , intact they just worship differently he said ..I said WHAT ... oh that's it .. then I saw Greg and Him at different conferences and cruises with prosperity preachers. It just kept getting crazier. I then see Greg preaching in Australia and his eyes , they looked demonic and all the Australians were pointing it out as if was plain as day and I took a screen shot and I couldn't believe this manifestation was in our faces , then after Peter John Coursen died they really let loose .( I think Peter wasn't apart of it ) now I see John on RUclips looking not just way aged in a matter of months but features that looked like manifestations and I felt sick. I know this sounds maybe crazy but it was a process I watched over time and not something I accepted at first glance. John side hugged me one day and his grip felt creepy, his wife , well I wont say too much but how about 1 kings 18 ...
THE LORD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU BROTHER PAUL....YOU ARE A PRECIOUS TREASURE IN THESE LAST DAYS.....
JESUS IS COMING...MAY WE COMFORT ONE ANOTHER WITH THOSE WORDS
MARANATHA
I will be following the original vision, structure of Calvary Chapel as expressed by Pastor Chuck. God bless you Paul.
You people mezmerized by Chuck Smith need to know the TRUTH about his teachings:
#1-He denied every core truth if Biblical salvation (Predestination unto salvation, Divine Election, Effectual Calling, Reprobation).
#2-He was deceived by and then taught dispensational theology that has a TON of false teachings built in---including the utterly false pre tribulation raptue.
#3-He denied the physical resurrection of the saints. According to the Apostle Paul, denial of the resurrection of the saints is a direct implication that Christ was not physically raised from the dead.
This list should boggle your mind and wake you up to start studying your Bible and church history. Dont be deceived by appearances! Jesus said "wo" unto you when all men speak well of you. Do you believe the Word of God? I would be happy to prove everything I said here (there are sound bites you can hear Chuck for yourself). Call me, Roy (714)655-1963.
Or message me here if you have any questions or doubt what I say.
classicjukebox I have his teachings and you are actually the false prophet....because all your talking about is false and Chuck Smith has never denied a bodily resurrection smh.....don’t be used by the enemy Brother
classicjukebox John Calvin was a murderer.
MOTBR
2. You are judging someone by modern standards
I've heard this garbage several times. We are all judged by eternal standards. Calvin was no better than any other dictator.
Calvinism was derived through his works. Personally it should really be called Augustinianism but hey the father of the RC is also the father of the Reformed.
God always had a faithful remnant whether inside the RC or out (Waldensians, Moravians) etc. Unfortunately those who are Reformed rarely recognise this...
@@classicjukebox ........You couldn't be more wrong about Pastor Chuck Smith. Who are you to judge this incredible man of God. ???
Thank you my brother in Christ. Only confirms in my heart about Brian. I discerned this hearing him on the radio when your brother was here on the earth. I was at another Calvary foe years and it changed rapidly! BECAUSE of that "church" my sons have backslid... Pray for me, there is more to this then then I can say on a open forum! Its a sad shame
But God is True and man are liar's! I trust No more in any person but Jesus. Im struggle with anger towards these wolves... Pray for healing and restoration for my family and...
Oh sir, how my heart hurts for you! How can anyone who is senile speak as you do on this video?! It is so sad to hear and see all of the happenings in all the different CC churches... my continued love in Christ and prayers for you and your wife as you seek the Lord Pastor Paul... be blessed sir, be blessed.
Pastor Paul, I'll never forget being baptized by you in your backyard pool. I attended Calvary Chapel Community of Victorville. I still attend Calvary Chapel, but I'm in Washington State now. Prior to the Victorville church, I attended Downey with Jeff Johnson, and Costa Mesa back in the 70s. Blessings to you!
What happened hear proves The Word Of God is true. Paul's warning in 2nd Tim wolves in sheep's clothing just waiting to destroy The Truth In The Word Of God. For me 36 yrs ago a new believer I just knew that The Lord Was teaching me His Word And His Ways through Chuck and it was a blessing to me. A shame that the wolves now control this church..
Bill Perez it is very sad to see
You people mezmerized by Chuck Smith need to know the TRUTH about his teachings:
#1-He denied every core truth if Biblical salvation (Predestination unto salvation, Divine Election, Effectual Calling, Reprobation).
#2-He was deceived by and then taught dispensational theology that has a TON of false teachings built in---including the utterly false pre tribulation raptue.
#3-He denied the physical resurrection of the saints. According to the Apostle Paul, denial of the resurrection of the saints is a direct implication that Christ was not physically raised from the dead.
This list should boggle your mind and wake you up to start studying your Bible and church history. Dont be deceived by appearances! Jesus said "wo" unto you when all men speak well of you. Do you believe the Word of God? I would be happy to prove everything I said here (there are sound bites you can hear Chuck for yourself). Call me, Roy (714)655-1963.
Or message me here if you have any questions or doubt what I say.
@@classicjukebox LOL You Calvinist kooks are amazing.
#1 Chuck Smith taught what the Bible teaches about Presdestination and the Bible NEVER teaches that we are saved BY Predestination as you heretical nitwits barf all of the time.
#2 Dispensationalism is truth.
#3 You LIE. "Sound bites" are not needed. Anyone can listen to Chuck free of charge and see that you are perverting Chuck's words,. You don't like Chuck's descriptions and illustrations and explanations, but he does not deny "the physical resurrection of the saints."
I'm not associated with Calvary Chapel, but I've heard Chuck teach (into the hundreds of hours). And "classicjukebox" is a joke.
@@GregoryMiller I agree I loved Chuck and God really used him this guy whoever he is has an axe to grind
The whole church is going through this and I am grieved greatly . We can not leave the word and we must stay the biblical course. 🙁
Dear Pastor Paul.. it’s heartbreaking to see what’s happening, but I’m not surprised, my husband and I followed Chuck for years, I considered him my mentor, I’m so very thankful for the solid teaching of the word. I lived in Arizona and attended a small Church there, they had a great little library filled with cassette tapes thru the Bible with Chuck, I moved to the Midwest and never found another place to belong, every church seemed either cold or lukewarm, I just didn’t fit! I still listen to Chuck and love the Lord and His word, and it’s been almost 50 years since I trusted Jesus to save me and was baptized in the Holy Spirit!! It’s lonely here as far as fellowship, and we still try to belong somewhere.. I just wanted you to know we love you and are praying for you! And thank God there are still men like you around! May the Lord bless and keep you! Please pray for us!
Thank you for sharing your heart. I look forward to your kind, truthful words from your heart.
Thank you for your faithful testimony. I see that God is disciplining His Church today. .
Thanks Paul ! ! For those of us who were there in the blessed early days, it nice ( but sad ) to hear what happened. Especially after so many rumors went around.
In 94 I started to listen to Chuck Smith, the teachings was always free. When Chuck passed in 2013 I watched Calvary chapel church turn to the evil ways of this world. I no longer have anything to do with Calvary chapel church, the worship with their lips but their hearts are far from the true and loving God. I also had my own personal bad experience with the Rockingham Calvary chapel church here in New England, Plaistow Hampshire. Please don't turn away from your faith, turn away from those wolves in sheep clothing
You people mezmerized by Chuck Smith need to know the TRUTH about his teachings:
#1-He denied every core truth if Biblical salvation (Predestination unto salvation, Divine Election, Effectual Calling, Reprobation).
#2-He was deceived by and then taught dispensational theology that has a TON of false teachings built in---including the utterly false pre tribulation raptue.
#3-He denied the physical resurrection of the saints. According to the Apostle Paul, denial of the resurrection of the saints is a direct implication that Christ was not physically raised from the dead.
This list should boggle your mind and wake you up to start studying your Bible and church history. Dont be deceived by appearances! Jesus said "wo" unto you when all men speak well of you. Do you believe the Word of God? I would be happy to prove everything I said here (there are sound bites you can hear Chuck for yourself). Call me, Roy (714)655-1963.
Or message me here if you have any questions or doubt what I say.
classicjukebox Ah, a cut and paster 😉
I learned so much from Chuck Smith and loved him but as the Apostle Paul said to the church of that day, "after my departure, grevious wolves will come in and it has happened to Calvary Chapel.
I have been given much from the Holy Spirit showing me the evil of this people made up of Satan’s children. I thank God that He has separated me from them and shown me the truth
Overcome and Conquer!!!
May the peace of God which passeth all understanding be with Pastor Chuck Smith and, May many stars be placed on his crown ! I will never forget the team song from your radio program, your pleasant voice,and your systematic verse by verse exposition of God’s Holy Word.God bless you a true General in God’s army.
I weep everytime I read Pauls farewell in the book of Acts and how he warned the saints at Ephesus about the wolves that would come to try to destroy them. Now, I weep for Calvary Chapel saints who need to stay close to the Lord and each other for protection from the evl one. Calvary Chapels are the last breed of faithful churches preaching the Whole Counsel of God and the evl is coming after them! Be steady in the Word, keep praying and holding on to the promises of Jesus!! H is coming soon for His bride!!! MARANATHA!!
It is so sad to see Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa going the direction of the emerging (Sardis & Laodicea) churches - I thank God for saving me in 1974 at Costa Mesa & learning to study & teach through the whole Word of God under Pastor Chuck & Bible School . . I'm not concerned with Broderson or the "new" direction, the Lord Jesus Christ is our 'Captain' . .
I can see similar mannerism with Paul and Chuck. Lord, help your church.❤
I just had to check, and yes, there you are, on utube. I love you, and all your desert family! God is sorting all this out now. What an exciting time to be alive! Thank you for being mine and ricks spiritual family!
Ruth, relax, Gods got this!
I was saved by Word For Today and went to Calvary Chapel Bible School. It breaks my heart to see what has happened.
If necessary the elders and the board of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa need to meet and discuss this matter. Issues with Pastor Brian need to be resolved as equitably as possible. The calling of teaching the Bible chapter by chapter, verse by verse. This goes above Chuck Smith and lies at the feet of our Lord.
They divided the church in court already. One is Calvary chapel global Network with Brian and modernism versus the Calvary chapel council association which holds Chuck Smith beliefs.
I was there in the "tent" days with Romaine and Chuck. Paul, thank you so much for sharing Chuck's last thoughts before he died. There is so much confusion about what is going on these days. Many people are praying for you and Ruth and the humiliating way you have been treated. It would be sad indeed to lose the great teachings in The Word for Today. I pray that cannot happen!! Thanks again, God bless you and we will all meet together soon in a perfect place. I am also praying fro Chuck's daughter and Brian B.
PS - I have to laugh when I think about Romaine and how he tried to monitor all the people trying to leave the tent and how he wouldn't let them in again if it disrupted the service. Hard to do in a circus tent!!!
Romaine said to me, "Wait 3 days, before you make your decision". Well, I did not wait, moved to Alaska. Attended a church there, for a time. Had Pastor Chuck's tapes with me, as I had to travel from the Kenia to Anchorage. Many tapes! Of all things, Pastor Chuck was teaching on the signs of a cult...Dah! the church in Soldota fit most every point! 4 hour drive, one way.. So thankful I moved the tapes to Alaska with me! and his teaching...! Blessings...
Hi Susan, I also was there during the tent days and before! Praise the Lord Jesus Christ! Grace Janet Brooks (FB) Do you recall the night that Pastor Chuck told everyone in the tent to not show up the next service night? It was the night that strong winds stormed and blew the tent down that would have injured so many. Praise God!
Who. Is pastor Brian stiller
@ Susan Tubetop- did you ever met Lonnie Fresbee, was Lonnie a practicing homosexual as a youth high school pastor at Vineyard Church pre-Calvary Chapel CC Masonic number 33 ?... I asking an honest and truthful question ?.
Two precious men of God. Such a shame this happened.
Sad to see what it's become. I attended one Sunday a few years ago. Feels very different from what Pastor Chuck built.
I agree! I was born and raised in Calvary chapel ways. But since Chuck passed and Steve May's past, I had to find a new home. CC South Bay has a different feel. Wanting to be modern over a great message. I just realized there was dissention within the leadership. I don't feel the new messages are inspired. What teaching is better than reading through the Bible?
The Holy Spirit is well able to oversee His church! I would so appreciate your prayers. May God God bless you too!
Paul is right on.
I agree with you. God bless you always.
Pastor Paul, are you doing another update on Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa? PLEASE do. Blessings, Gil & Sammi
Really sad that CC Costa Mesa had basically a hostile takeover after Chuck’s passing. And from member of his family no less. So sad. And for Brodersen to say what he did about the Covid lockdowns was despicable.
Very very sad what is happening to this church. It’s no longer a church but a house full of thieves and robbers.
Amen thank you and God-Elohim- Yeshua bless you greatly. I pray you are still doing well in Jesus name!
Chuck Smith's verse by verse teaching and attending Calvary Chapel, Colorado Springs, is what allowed me to grow in the Lord and accompanied me on my assignments overseas. Chuck's teaching was a comfort for the loneliness. When Pastor Chuck went to be with the Lord, I felt like my father had died. I knew that Calvary Chapel, Costa Mesa, would not be the same. The fall from grace, left your first love. CC needs to return to the verse by teaching. Feed the people the Word of God. Your topical sermons are boring. The power struggle needs to end or Calvary Chapel will join the list of apostate churches.
DO NOTFEAR ANYTHING. BUT FEAR GOD! swamp dwellers and sewer critters.
Politics and money, egos and pride, and penchant for power sow division and strife... It's nothing new, but demonstrates we're flawed and requires an honest and consistent self evaluation under the direction of the Holy Spirit and accountability to wise advisors.
Connection with the head of the church is the most necessary thing.
Read your book: you NAILED it. Thank for warning us.
When Pastor Chuck passed, it was like losing a good friend I sat and talked to each day. I was so used to hearing his voice in my home through the radio. Immediately the station changed, it just isn't the same. It lacks the Word, it seems.
You're right Deborah. I tuned in a couple days ago and the radio had just finished playing a bible message from Rick Warren. They may as well change the name from K-WAVE to K-WOLF. Rick Warren is a heretic to the highest degree, and Brian Brodersen supports him.
it would be nice if the documents get published. If they already are where may I find them?
I have not been to calvary chapel since Pastor Chuck left , it is how we see humanity flaws and all
i listen to afew calvary chapel preachers. Ive never heard any unbiblical sermons. Maybe a few opinions here and there, but usualy pretty solid. The emergant church is really really bad.I dont see them that way so far
If anyone believes Brian Broderson is lost, I would encourage you to pray for him. I attend Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, and attended when Pastor Chuck taught there as well. I heard all kinds of rumors about who was taking over, but in the end the board went with Brian. There could be cases made for numerous pastors that came up under Chuck, who were saved in the early days of CCCM, who would of made great senior pastors for CCCM. But I truly believe that God wanted them to stay with their congregations and their ministries. It is God's Church and His will be done. The good news is that Brian is teaching the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation on Wednesday Nights, and are currently in the book of Acts on Sundays. Please pray for Calvary Chapel pastors, staff, and congregation past and present. Let us leave the politics, policies and schisms at the foot of the cross. I hope all of you are blessed and don't lose sight of who you are in Jesus Christ.
Paul Blundell, if you don't know that Brian is lost, you need to watch this video and listen to Brian tell you with his own mouth how he believes Calvary needs to be run. Brian and others in this video of a recent Calvary pastor's conference prove that they have all fallen away from the truth. ruclips.net/video/gj3ggFUj9UU/видео.html
Amen!
Paul Blundell. This video is spelling it out clearly.
It is very disturbing when Christians argue amongst each other. The non-believers are watching. First CCCM is Jesus’s Church. Couldn’t you all just get along ?
Joanne Cohen This is not a just an argument. It is an alarm to wake up and pay attention. We are witnessing the attempt to end protestants and back to disguised Catholicism. Control by the long sneaky arm of the Vatican. One World Order.
Watered-downed Christianity with with a Roman twist. :)
1 Corinthians 3:1-23 , verse 10 1 Corinthians 3:10 (HCSB): According to God’s grace that was given to me, I have laid a foundation as a skilled master builder, and another builds on it. But each one must be careful how he builds on it.
We are not of Paul or of Apollos, but of Christ, Right? RIP Pastor Chuck Smith .....
A sad thing for what happened to take place!!!
I was a lead of a home study. All I can say is, I never felt comfortable with him! Something felt off, or wrong, never accepted him as listening and accepting . Sadly what I picked up turned out to be true!!!
Paul, name the names of the "two men" whom you say, your brother, Pastor Chuck, said: "they can't wait for me to die..."
s j look into Brian Broderson and Chuck Fromm
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Thank you for the "Fromm" tip.
I have been so much research on this recently - to find out why Calvary Chapel Ruidoso, NM is sooooo going the opposite direction of God's Cutting Edge Teachers.
It is quite clear to me now.
Again, thank you for the "Fromm" tip.
In His love ~ cj
I was in Calvary Chapel for about 10 years (in the 2000's) and it is sad to see a split looming like this. Still, I wish this video had contained more specifics. Why point out the existence of the problem without the relevant details?
I'd be interested to know how Skip Heitzig, Raul Reis, Greg Laurie, Robert Furrow and Terry Long (my pastor) feel about this issue. Personally, I'm appalled about this, but I haven't heard the "other side" of the story. I will say this, if Calvary is moving toward Reformed Theology, my 30-year search to find a church whose theology lined up with mine (which ended when I found Calvary in 2000) may start again..
Calvary Chapel Association is a good place to start. CCA has carried on where Pastor Chuck left off. Brian B. removed himself and started Calvary Global Network. The CCA has not wavered from the long standing tradition of teaching the WHOLE Bible scripture by scripture.
CC Global Network (Broderson's group, not CCA) reminds me of RINOs (Republicans In Name Only). They are CCINOs (Calvary Chapel in Name Only). I've heard that because CC Costa Mesa owns the rights to the logo, Broderson will soon "remove the dove" from CCA churches that don't join CC Global Network. Church splits can be nasty and this one is turning out to be a humdinger!
Most of reformed theology is Biblical--particularly the doctrines of salvation.
Study your Bible Dave.
I know Dave very well.He picked up his first Bible for study 65+ years ago. He's probably studied it a lot more than you have. He's a true Biblical scholar who has taught the Bible to more people than I could count, all the way up to the university level. That, of course, doesn't make Dave or "Reformed Theology" right or wrong. That debate has been going on almost 500 years. No one will solve it this side of Heaven. I know Dave wouldn't say anything, but I don't think he would appreciate your condescending remarks. His post wasn't about Reformed Theology anyway. It was about the split in Calvary Chapel.
A person can study the Bible 1000 years and it means zero (except that he lived very long). Calvary Chapel is a factory of almost countless false teachings that rob naive, man trusting people of the precious truths of the Gospel and ultimately will wipe them out unless God in His mercy shows them.
Stay together
This is sad I pray The Lord Jesus help Calvary Chapel section of the body of Christ and intervien.
Honey badger don't play, he'll take on lions, his tenacity is unmatched.
Can someone please think about this Greg Laurie I don’t think you guys realize he is not what you believe he is
Have you acknowledged Lonnie Frisbee righltly now ? His roll in the biggining of CC ?
Calvary Chapel, sadly was THE cause of much disputes in the Evangelical Church in general…by allowing the world to dictate what the Church should function!
And what the Church should be like!
I’ll never be back. They have young new pastors who don’t know the word of God.
so what is up, with this.....was there not a plan to aquire other leaders.....and why did Chuck stay, litterally, till his dying day...
Im afraid Im very suspicious of large church organizations like Cavary Chapel.
I dont like Calvary Chapel embracing hip hop and rap music into Christian music,I dont like drums,bass guitars and electric guitars being brought into church music,I dont like not singing "Wonderful Grace of Jesus" "He Arose" or "He Lives" on Easter Sunday and singing pop JUNK.
The glorious olde hymns we all sang had meaning and depth and were written by Christians who went through tremendous trials and tribulations in their lives and wanted to praise Jesus for bringing them through.
The writers of these hymns WERE NOT driven by making money flashing lights booming bass and Hollywood presentstiins.
Folks,I for one,will continue to look for a church that sings olde hymns with a piano,organ and choir.
If I wanted Peter Paul and Mary Id listen to the radio.
Amen
The Lord bless you too. I believe in the unmerited grace of our Lord Jesus the Christ. But Paul the Apostle of grace, told us in. 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God breathed and good for correction and reproof to train us. The New Testament is the revealing of what was proclaimed and predicted in the OT. So it begs the question, why wouldn't you want to know it. The problem I see Is we have forgotten that Jesus paid it all. We didnt earn it, or deserve it. Should we live the the Word? As best as you can, Then the Holy Spirit forgives and corrects and strengthens you. It's the whole Roman's 7. I'm just soooo grateful He doesn't rejects us, we might have to repeat a few things, but He is with us. Chuck Missle wrote a book ,Hidden Treasures of the bible. It's a 6.00 book but Is chalk full of proof positive that the Bible is the inerrant word of God. If only people knew the promises they have from the God that created it all. Ty for clarifying what happened to CC. The Lord Jesus bless you.
I still listen to c3000. c2000 T3000. I talk with his daughter from time to time. I didn't know this was taking place, but I mean don't we consider this a form of what the Word of The LORD spoke even as Chuck preached in the last days? Men will become lovers of themselves?
In my opinion. I wonder what Greg Laurie has to say or maybe he isn't talking because he doesnt want to hinder the work of God, nevertheless; what is Gregs stance. He was close with Chuck as well. I mean honestly, look at what Chuck did, add money, desire and flesh to that and what do we REALLY expect?
The LORD will prove all things at the end of the day, even to John MacArthur who profusely thinks he is the "authority on who is who." And that's a fact. Be wise Saints. We were taught well, just as Timothy was told, dont forget the teachings from your youth, we dont need to walk away now. We need to stand tall.
I'm a 29 year old Christian. Please say your prayers for me if possible, Satan is throwing things at me left and right and I am stuck in two bondages. Shameful, but its pornography and cigarettes (E-cigarettes) a trap of the enemy for those who hate the taste of nicotine.
However, MANY are the afflictions of the righteous, BUT! (And we know the rest). God Bless and Gods Work will be done. Our loving sovereign Father will restore this stuff and the work of the ministry has to go on. Our Father called me. I dont mean to make this about me at all, but I know saints that are older and wiser than me can pray for me and I appreciate you guys. I love you though I have not yet seen you, but our Daddy does and to Chucks brother God loves you.
RestoredForHim Greg Laurie left CC and joined the Southern Baptist Convention, the home of the Freemasons and the KKK don’t forget Rick Warren. Focus on Jesus not men. That’s what I’m doing.
Ephesians 5:11
Calvary Chapel now reminds me of a saw which has no teeth.
I worked for Calvary back when he was removed/ fired. On one hand he speaks truth, but trying to write a book slamming the direction of the same movement wasn't a good look.
Can anyone tell me where to buy New Evangelicalism, please? The only new copy I found at Amazon was $302.
Thanks Tim. Since I posted that a month ago, I discovered that the late Dave Hunt's ministry, The Berean Call, carries them (exclusively, I believe) at the request of Pastor Paul. Cost was $10. Thanks again.
Of coarse Brian would do this terrible ungodly stuff, the man is not even saved!!
I got a bad impression even before this all happened. He was at event the Calvary Chapel I was attending was hosting. I went up to try to talk him and he gave me a look that said “get away from me”.
No division that sounds like the devil trying to dive, the church belongs to Jesus Christ, not to man stay together no more fitting
Chuck Smith believed that Christians can lose their salvation. All his early pastors which, he ordained, also believed the same thing. That means none of them including all the people going to the Calvary Chapels did not have the security of the believer. As the Bible says, Jesus will never leave you nor forsake you, were words that was never imembedded in their hearts.
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The very early Pastors were called by God to preach, but the new string after say 1975 that started to preach were and today are doing things in their own will. Many for ego, wealth, cars, big homes, tax breaks and some they think it's just cool to be in the pulpit. I saw it in 1983 and if just became worse when Chuck became ill. Greed doe some strange things to folks. Today you can see the false fruits of Calvary band the split of Calvary type named churches.💡777🎸
i have stumble of the narrow road because of too many thing troubling me at the same time for too long and then my mother passes away. So feeling awesome already my pathetic self feels that maybe i could had prevented my mom from passing. so i'm on cloud 9 now at this time. i choose to go back to some bad habits i had 20yrs ago so now im not sure if i think logically any more. are you listening (i don't even know who you are). i accidentally come across Dr. Walter Martin stuff on youtube finally after years of possible depression, hearing Dr. Walter Martin speaking GOD's word, i was drawn in. like a beaker a navigation device. Then i read about in the past about the fighting over who is going to be new president of CRI after Dr Walter Martin past away 26 June 1989 this cant be happening right! CRI is GOD's it belongs to GOD! Why is GOD letting satan do this ???? distractions, distractions were is my beaker ok i see it again. NOW WTHeck is going at calvary chapel NOOOOO dont let the enemy do this i thought Calvary Chapel belong to GOD also. So dumb sheep like me will have a good Samaritan to help in time of need like me :(
KEEP YOUR FAITH IN JESUS, HE WILL MAKE A WAY!
Chuck was like Solomon in many ways. Figure it out.
n.c.c.c. In Carlsbad seem to teach different than Pastor Chuck.
It is going to be difficult gto get people to wake up and react to what just happened because most people do not read the WORD of GOD or meditate on HIS WORD and use their own minds and listen to Jesus voice. They have been taught to think and do like Calvary. Qe need to get rid of Darth Vaer from dancing the slow dance out in the lobby
I take darth ona say get out of CALVry Chapel!!!!! You will not have 1 square incbh of this holy land get out before your own demons drag you out!!!
Someone should write a book on the fall of calvary chapel
Calvary Chapel was fallen from the start. It only succeeded by disobedience to Scripture.
You people mezmerized by Chuck Smith need to know the TRUTH about his teachings:
#1-He denied every core truth if Biblical salvation (Predestination unto salvation, Divine Election, Effectual Calling, Reprobation).
#2-He was deceived by and then taught dispensational theology that has a TON of false teachings built in---including the utterly false pre tribulation raptue.
#3-He denied the physical resurrection of the saints. According to the Apostle Paul, denial of the resurrection of the saints is a direct implication that Christ was not physically raised from the dead.
This list should boggle your mind and wake you up to start studying your Bible and church history. Dont be deceived by appearances! Jesus said "wo" unto you when all men speak well of you. Do you believe the Word of God? I would be happy to prove everything I said here (there are sound bites you can hear Chuck for yourself). Call me, Roy (714)655-1963.
Or message me here if you have any questions or doubt what I say.
classicjukebox you people lol....I'm not mesmerized by CS.... why do you think I posted it?
classicjukebox Can a person backslide out from God's grace and salvation?
Pre trib rapture is going happen...
ASK GOD if it is edifying.
Brian is a wicked man
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Please hear me out I'm trying to reach your heart I heard up your brother I know what he did and I'm just trying to reach your heart I want you to understand something okay the churches are going to be judged first okay I want you to know this and I need you to understand that anyone who would put themselves under Authority is going to be judged by God more harshly so I want you to know that your brother is going to be judged by God more harshly how he handled the house of God okay that's what the Apostle Paul says now here's something very true and I want you to understand this any church or anyone who says you have to repent of your sin in order to be saved they have a false gospel I just pray that your brother was not one of them who believe such nonsense because repenting of sins is another way of saying keep the law of God because sin is the transgression of the law of God that's all I have to say to you I want you to make sure that you are believing the true gospel simple faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ that's what saves a man go in peace
[Psa 7:12 NASB95] 12 If a man does not repent, He will sharpen His sword; He has bent His bow and made it ready.
[Mat 3:2 NASB95] 2 "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."
[Mat 4:17 NASB95] 17 From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."
[Mat 11:20 NASB95] 20 Then He began to denounce the cities in which most of His miracles were done, because they did not repent.
[Mar 6:12 NASB95] 12 They went out and preached that [men] should repent.
[Luk 13:5 NASB95] 5 "I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish."
[Act 3:19 NASB95] 19 "Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord;
[Act 8:22 NASB95] 22 "Therefore repent of this wickedness of yours, and pray the Lord that, if possible, the intention of your heart may be forgiven you.
[Act 17:30 NASB95] 30 "Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all [people] everywhere should repent,
[Rev 2:5, 16 NASB95] 5 'Therefore remember from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first; or else I am coming to you and will remove your lampstand out of its place--unless you repent. ... 16 'Therefore repent; or else I am coming to you quickly, and I will make war against them with the sword of My mouth.
Pastors and speakers at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa and other Calvary chapels looked too much on Chuck Smith rather than Jesus Christ. I blame all that on Chuck Smith himself.
I loved your dad but he would associate himself with men let’s just say that aren’t truthful
Jesus said nothing can snatch us from his hand. This church has nothing but evil and wicked people who are nothing but deceivers. I saw it for myself here is Massachusetts with pastor Ron and the other pastor. This church thinks they are so much better than others. I have never seen so much hate as there is in this Calvary chapel.
FranK w. Barrett Right on. Ephesians 5:11
Why did your brother Chuck Smith have a video about Resurrection that is a complete and Autre lie that Jesus wasn’t resurrected in his body come on man wake up I don’t know what your brother was trying to preach on that day but it didn’t sound biblical looked into that yet video I guess it’s a three part are three parts one video on the resurrection watches your videos and your scratch your head like what is he talking about
oh my Gosh !!! does not any one with a brain realize CS was not a stupid man !! and would have left his wishes on paper with a notary and 2 witnesses ! come on people ...give the guy some credit he KNEW he was dying ...!!! and this brother seems to be reading a script !...wow !
Pero le lavo el cerebro el que se quedó en su lugar pues dejo a la familia de chuc desplumada se deslumbró por su amado discipulado falso vemos ya pasados los años y muchos ya se están postrando ente el segundo de chuc las mujeres liderean la iglesia todo es un caos las alabanzas humanistas y el poder y la fama van en primer lugar
Sadly, Chuck Smith denied the resurrection of the flesh of the saints. Chuck plainly taught (go check the tapes) that the "resurrection" of Christians occurs at their death. Chuck even mocked the possibility of the resurrection of the dead (its all on tape folks). Paul The Apostle, by The Holy Spirit, equated the denial of the resurrection of the saints with the resurrection of Christ Himself. Chuck and Calvary present a falsde Christ, and a false Gospel of Arminianism/Wesleyism--and worse, they conceal this fact to trusting followers who trustingly absorb these terrible doctrines. Furthermore, they add dispensationalism to the mix, to make a bunch of really messed up people. The best thing that can happen to Calvary Chapel is that it crumbles....
I agree. It needs to die. Too much corruption among the pastors including the one here in our town.
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It is a real SHAME that you Paul, have to come on here and air all this dirty laundry. This doesn't make YOU look good. You are not trusting the Lord. Let it go, pray for all involved and trust God is sovereign. Serve the Lord where you can be happy. But to divide and come down on your own family (Brian and Cheryl) is despicable. If Pastor Chuck wanted another pastor to take over CCCM, he had the power to do so. Chuck's own board voted Brian in as Chuck's successor and I heard Chuck tell everyone on Pastor's Perspective that Brian would succeed him. If you really cared about CCCM, you would not condemn Brian and would pray for him and the ministry. Your opinion doesn't matter because it was Chuck who choose Brian . All the rest is destructive gossip.
I would have agreed with this post, had I not seen the lawsuit that stated Brian and Cheryl did not want to give a million dollar life insurance towards the care of Cheryl's mother, who had Alzheimer's. This is not the thing to do, and embracing the Emergent Church is just as egregious!
You are assuming the worst about a brother and sister in Christ. You do not accurately know their family issues, so butt out. Would you want others to butt into your personal family issues? No you wouldn't! Stop reading the online so called "discernment" ministries as most of them go to extremes and condemn everyone. Guilt by association is NOT a fair or accurate way to access people. Think for yourself and give people the benefit of the doubt. Brian and CCCM are NOT emergent! So ridiculous.
Truth Lover
Just take a minute and look at who Brian is doing ministry with. Rick Warren, Levi Lusko, just to name 2. And look at those guys sermons. Look at the split within Calvary chapels. Brian’s own words concerning the Old Testament. Their are many things that are very concerning. I’m not even talking about what Paul Smith has to say.
@@carrifoote8065 You come across like a complete jerk
Carri, the truth hurts. Everything everyone is saying about broderson and his wife is true. There is no denying it. He should had stayed in vista. No one needed him at CCCM. He knew Chuck was vulnerable and he exploited. Just my opinion. Same as what others have said. AND we can ALL tell the direction he is going, is not of God. What he needs to do is leave CCCM and begin his own ministry. He will never be Chuck Smith. It is tormenting to even listen to his so called sermons.
Calvary does not teach the BIBLE!
Calvary Chapel is not of God. It is a Decoy Church satan has used to miss-lead the masses. This will be made evident after the rapture takes place.
During the Great Tribulation: Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. (Dan_12:10)
I just had to check, and yes, there you are, on utube. I love you, and all your desert family! God is sorting all this out now. What an exciting time to be alive! Thank you for being mine and ricks spiritual family!
Ruth, relax, Gods got this!
Sorting all this out now? How so?
@PJ Scotland yes he does. AND HE ALLOWS THEM TO BELIEVE IT CUZ THEY DONT LOVE TRUTH and would rather enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season. Ya know.