It’s so good to hear someone else express the difficulty, the hook, and how it gets you. It’s unfathomable to anyone who has never experienced it first hand. That struggle only makes sense if you’ve wrestled with it yourself. Honestly, hearing someone else talk about their own experience is so freeing. Thank you Ellis (and Jack).
3 Days is actually what i did with a drug addiction. Your brain and body goes through a type of cycle. Your brain reaches for other thoughts, emotions begin to balance naturally. It's like you're watching and thinking abou the world cup, then it ends. You're sad for a day but 3 days later you're over it.
My advice to anyone who gets involved in gambling, is once you do managed to stop, don’t ever put a bet on again, not even just a little one for fun or because you’ve convinced yourself you can control it. Relapses are real & can lead you to worse places then you were originally in. When he said he still wants his stag do in Vegas alarm bells went off. For an ex gambling addict, that is the worst place you can go
I never got addicted and I do bet each week, £1 lol. If you can control it there's nothing wrong with gambling. Anyone can lose £1 per week (and that's not every week of the year, since the season isn't running in June and July).
I'm on a month of not gambling for the first time in a bout 10 years after blocking and deleting the apps on my phone. Seeing gambling adverts makes me more annoyed than want to download another app now.
@@lewisbracken5520 in part yes. But the Gambling industry in the UK is still a complete mess. Obscene amounts of advertising and a white paper review that's a decade overdue.
I can relate I once lost 34,000 in an hour, I was playing high stakes blackjack betting $4000 a hand. Gambling has consumed by life and has destroyed relationships with people as well as being in massive debt. To anyone reading this please stop before it becomes a problem too big to come back from. It is not a game you’re playing with, rather it is you’re life.
Ellis really is a top lad. Good on him for opening up like this to show that even celebrities/youtuber/well known people struggle with the same issues as the common working person!
If you’re a regular in the bookies, and you’re really struggling with addiction, please inform the staff you want a MOSES application! I promise you us lot behind the counter hate seeing you lose money, and I believe the FOBT’s should be banned. MOSES will prevent you from going in any bookmaker in the area for a year, and you can renew it for the years following. If you’re too nervous to ring for yourself, we can also request a callback for you.
Online gambling cost me my business my kids and looking at facing prison due to Tax issues with HMRC....thankfully iv sorted the gambling out now but still paying the price for my passed addictions
I gambled for 11 years and I believe you have 3 stages you go through, 1st stage your up winning 2nd stage is the darkest part of a gambler lose all the time chasing losses and always wanting to gamble when bored or randomly. Final stage you have learnt how to some what control your addiction but have relapses every so often. I then blocked gambling with My bank and my partners so if I wanted to gamble I'd have to wait 48hrs but that put me of gambling, I block any way I could to gamble. My advice would be to do the same to stop. Don't gamble if you never have as once your involved could take a long time to stop. I could say so much more but would be very long. Gambling is a mugs game and I was a mug but now I'm free join me and be free from gambling.
Big up Ellis man I've been there gambled over 30k away in my early teens and twenties and spend thousands on FIFA too which felt no different than gambling on real sport. Haven't gambled in over a year now after signing up to gamstop
The absolute best thing I did was just banning myself and accepting you’re banned. SO many people say they’ll stop but won’t use the system to stop them because they’re not truly committed.
Mate I used to say all the time that I was done but always went back to gambling.. one day decided to join gamstop and can safely say I've never even given gambling a second thought since..
Completely agree with the first bit. Pretty much all my mates who were into football had paddy power accounts by 15 and we bet every weekend on the football, never more than like pocket money but still, one of my mates won €1000 on an acca both teams to score in both halves for 3 of the 3pm kick offs and that really sold us all. Honestly a miracle none of are proper addicts nowadays
Horrible horrible thing to go through. Been through the same situation with my gambling but managed to turn my back on it for the better. Great video once again Happy Hour👏🏻👍🏻
Great interview, it's brilliant to see these high profile people talking about this addiction. Hopefully it will help a lot of younger people identify they have a problem before it's too late.
Legendary honesty. Remember the layers, take away opportunity, take away time, etc. There needs to be more open discussion like this, especially amongst younger gamblers. Top man (ps don’t do Vegas) 😉
I had a hypothetical gambling problem. But, hypothetically, this video really helped me sort some hypothetical issues. I would like to thank Ellis hypothetically, and maybe buy him a thesaurus for Christmas.
Started gambling at 17 in sixth form, used to sit in computer labs at lunchtime an bet on horse racing throughout the day I won a fair bit for the amount bet but I would highly recommend not gambling 6 months clean an I feel so much better for it
I watched Pieface on the podcast and thought the channel dealt with it very well, it was sensitive and sensible. Then the channel did some sort of promo gambling tour abroad. I was shocked to see the channel promoting gambling, given everything that Piceface had said about how destructive gambling is. I hope the channel thinks again before promoting gambling.
I've seen both sides of this. Grew up in New Zealand where gambling advertising during sport is not aloud. And now live in Australia where it is. I never seen gamblers back home in NZ. Here in Aus, the 14 year old kids at the cricket club know horses and trainers.
What I find to work is long betts ex: I have $100 on city to win the league + mbappe top scorer in Ligue 1+ Barcelona top 2+ Harland top scorer so it doesn't finish for a year and I get the feeling of gambling every week but I don't place any more betts.
I work in a supermarket and yesterday we had a couple come in and the man was all over the girl. She was trying to get money from us for an imovo voucher, which is something you get and give to a shop and they use the barcode to give you the money on it. The man had just spent 1200 in the bookies down the road and lost all their money when they have kids to feed. He wasn’t even bothered aswell it was as if it was a normal thing to him. Crazy how many people are addicted and won’t admit
Can tell he still has a gambling addiction aswell, seen his twitch recently and he’s spending loads on packs of cards risking it to get a card that’s valuable 😥
This is an entirely different scenario although I take the concern. I’m able to do them openings as part of my job for entertainment. When I was an addict I was spending 24 hours a day betting on every sport possible, incapable of doing anything else of note
@@awaydaysfootball you should be nothing but proud my man!! Watching this pod brings me so much happiness for you! Liverpool treble this year👏🏼don’t miss it😉
Ellis mentioned about anger at losing, the amount of times I’ve seen people going nuts at the machines in the bookies is ridiculous on roulette and slots (which are digital so they are so blatantly rigged it’s unreal)
They aren't "rigged"... the odds are just heavily in the bookies favour. You are typically picking perhaps 10 winning numbers to make money, so you have a roughly 30% chance of winning give or take. Thus their odds of winning are 70%. It's usually done in such a way that if you bet on any more than half of the wheel, even if you win, you will lose out overall on that spin as the winnings are less than what you've put on the wheel.
@@thefiestaguy8831 Your maths is horribly wrong but they have a house edge of anywhere from 3-10% per spin depending on the game. The games are rigged in their favour anyway so they don't even need to "cheat" to win
@@flibujo Not really. If you have 10 numbers out of the 36 numbers on the roulette wheel, that's very roughly 30%. 12 out of 36 is one third, or 33.3333333% for one single spin. Using the term "rigged" sort of suggests they have manipulated the software or the wheel to always go in their favour.... they haven't, the pure mathematical odds means it will go in their favour overall.
I remember feeling like pure shit the first time I went to a casino and lost £40 on my first two hands of blackjack. Can't even begin to comprehend losing £12k in a night.
@@jaylenbrown7757 I withdrew all 12.8, then lost it through £50 quid deposits, went down to 8k and then lost 4K one weekend and 4.2 on one Friday, stupid, just couldn’t sleep bc of the stress, had a long 2 years on £0 , no Xmas dinners or birthdays, bc my debt is too big
@@sheikhando4815 ive never made 12k but i have done the same mistake with 1k , i now dont withdraw it all i leave some in that im ok with losing or just playing with for fun
I learned so much by gambling a bit. Worth the money. Now I know and I felt the mess, addiction and the management/psychology it takes. My overall balance is around and similar to -£2000 in losses (worst in the beginning over 2 years). Money wise it's a waste of time. If you win "big" then stop for a long time. You had a streak of luck and it's rare. It's 5-10 deposits you will lose before there is luck enough to get something back and cover the amount used. You have to withdraw some for that to work. Usually it's just down, down, down with any balance.
That's peanuts to be honest. I'm ashamed to admit over a period of 4-5 years I lost probably around £40,000. I'm a working class person and have been working in the emergency services for the last 5 and a half years. Would regularly lose a LOT of money. One day I lost £800 and the following day I lost £1,000 in the space of 3 hours. Next day I lost £250. I had a large ish win in 2017, winning £4,750 from a single £10 accumulator but it was a complete fluke and a stroke of luck, one of those "Once in a lifetime" moments that would never happen again. Been registered with GameStop and not gambled since summer 2022, about 7-8 months.
Completely agree. I recently turned 21 and I’m lucky to up over the course of visits to the casino, but I always prioritized understanding how to responsibly do it rather than seeing $$$ everywhere. I no longer see casinos as a way to make money or play for hours. I accept that I already spent my entrance fee when I arrive, aka what I’m comfortable losing. I accept that it’s realistic I only play for a few minutes, then I’m gone. There’s no round 2 to fix losses. There’s no “I lost too quickly and need more plays to make my trip worth it.” Just the fee for my entertainment, whether it be for just 5 minutes or an hour to blow through it.
I did this same thing playing online poker. Turned $25 into $10,000 in 30 hours. Slept for 3 hours and woke up to lose it all. Luckily it made me so sick i excluded myself from all gambling and just dont have the urge anymore.
anybody that is considering gambling needs to go into it with the mindset of only gambling what youre willing to lose. you know how only the 1% of the 1% become professional footballers? well take that theory and apply it to gambling as well. you might be able to win a little bit of money from it in the short term but unless you are the best of the best you are always gonna lose it in the long term so always assume whatever money you’re gambling is gonna turn into a loss.
I’m in this situation now, blowing my entire paycheck in hours on online casinos. It’s come to a point where I’m realizing it’s not about winning. I’ve deposited $100 and ran it up to $5k and lost it all that same night. If it was about winning, I could win and walk away
Well, Im 19, and I started at 14 with coinflips site and stuff... didn't bet at 15, then at 16 back to betting. I bet almost everyday and it's a second life for me. Im addicted, but never gambled something Im not supposed to. Never been to a debt of over 50$, and I knew exactly when Im paying it back. Me and my friend like to bet on esports matches or on NBA, talk about it most of our day, and watch the games togather and have fun. We don't rage bet much... but we are trying to have fun. Yet, I wish I never met with gambling and never introduced my friends to gambling. Take care people.
I think that is a fallacy tbh & maybe gamblers convinced themselves that they won their first bet as if it is in some way an excuse (I'm a reformed gambler ftr)
Don’t gamblers get addicted to close calls though like where they feel like they about to win and don’t that does something to the brain chasing the feeling like your about to win.
Can relate so much. When it was bad for me I also won £15k in one night online (roulette) but wasn't able to withdraw immediately so lost it all in the meantime. Still took another 2 years to give up completely. Horrid habit
@@jameshartley95 It started when I was around 18 using my very little wage. Between 18-20 i took out a credit card with £2000 limit which i maxed then took out a loan to clear it, then maxed the same credit card again then another loan and maxed my card again… it was a nightmare. So happy Ive managed to kick the addiction and nearly paid everything off
American sports do not have gambling adverts during shows. What is bad is when you watch UK sport especially Football half of the adverts are betting. Its so bad. Sky even have their own betting company they heavily promote during sports. I didn't realise this myself until I was living in Canada and a friend who would watch UK streams of Football said he was shocked about all the vetting ads during live sport. No wonder there is a gambling pandemic in the UK. What makes me sick is how these companies offer free bets when you start
I did exactly the same walked into a bookies with my paper round money at 13/14 and walked out 20 mins later with £250 off £20 I was hooked from then and only stopped 5 years ago won big but lost big
We could end gambling addiction with one simple rule: gambling bankruptcy. Gambling debt gets reduced to a ratio decided by a judge (e.g.30% than lost amount) and you can't gamble again until you paid it back. It also entails some inconveniences such as no access to debt. Gambling businesses have the responsibility of enforcing the rule, and they suffer the loss when the debt gets cutted. This would shift the societal cost of gambling addiction on the businesses, a strong incentive to check customer's spending and have safeguards
What's the odds they get another gambling addict on the show?.. No seriously what are the odds I just need to know seriously guys just give me the odds already!! *Scratches arm*
3 Days is actually what i did with a drug addiction. Your brain and body goes through a type of cycle. Your brain reaches for other thoughts, emotions begin to balance naturally. It's like you're watching and thinking abou the world cup, then it ends. You're sad for a day but 3 days later you're over it.
This happened to me when I was 18, I made £10k from £50 and lost it all the same night after telling my mum I'll pay her debt off. I'm now 28 and have relapsed after 6 years, which ruined my most recent relationship of 3 years and half years. Gambling can destroy lives, DON'T DO IT unless you can control yourself.
The hardest reality of any gambler is that there is no way to make back the losses, and just realizing your chasing a feeling of your time. Finding a feeling outside of it and continuously not breaking back into the cycle of gambling is the tough part from cutting it off initially and for good. Needing to think about something else to take up your time, but with also realizing your consumption of time with whatever it is will also probably be an addiction, just make sure it is a productive one.
It’s weird. I have an super addictive personality but gambling has never ‘got’ me. Probably what helped was losing my birthday money in the bookies on roulette, when you could bet more than £1. I was chasing red 😂 Now I can happily spend £20 a week on a bet, if it wins it wins if not no problem. Charlie on the other hand…
@@bringyouinuk_889 that isn't far off the mark..always gave staying power on sessions when generally after 5 or 6 I was ruined . Chuck in a bit of the old showbiz sherbert & and the gateway to 6 more pints opens
Hes completely right at the start the way online betting is being projected to younger viewers will probably lead to them trying and maybe win then there drew in more
I’m only a month clear of Gambling and it feels good…. I’m tired of it. Winning worst thing that can happen… it just makes you hungrier for more. My problem was mainly slots. Anyway long way to go, but I’m trying my best and more importantly I’ve been 💯 transparent to my Wife and people around me. That was difficult but it glad I admitted I had a problem
Such a good shout re: virtual sports. Same as speed versions of blackjacks, roulette etc. As for schools. I remember gambling on the school PC at 17. Had a ladbrokes account for a year on a photoshopped ID
It's always someone else's fault. "We look up to the players in the shirts with gambling sponsorships", "withdrawals take 24hrs to process, that's how they get you" etc. Grow up and take some responsibility. No one is forcing you to gamble.
Stop trying to justify the casinos making it difficult for people to pay people money they've won fair and square they don't mind you losing thousands but as soon as you try cash out they want ID and everything else loool imagine trying to justify that
Dont do it man. You are NEVER gonna get the euphoric feeling back of winning. You dont want to win, you want to feel the rush. And the worst thing is, your conscious doing it. Its a killer addiction
Not gambled since last July and do not miss it. Do not be pulled back in by Cheltenham or those fake William Hill adds, gambling destroys lives etc. Stay clean.
I can relate pal, i guess there is loads of people like us or still have a problem, one day i went to all my local casinos and asked them to ban me, it worked i never have had a problem since
Kids gambling at school always been a thing. We used to go in William hill on the way home from school and put the rest of our money in the roulette lol
I don't gamble on sports. I only gamble on things like The Oscars, where the outcome is reasonably predictable. In fact, one year, I made a point of only gambling JUST based on the trailers. I didn't watch a single film and I came out with about £90. My first year gambling on The Oscars, I bet £5 on each of the 10 categories (Picture, Director, actor, actress, supporting actor, supporting actress, original screenplay, adapted screenplay, foreign film, animated film) 10 bets, £5 each.. Came good on each. My friend asked "did you put an acca on?" I asked "whats an acca?" Maaaaate. nearly 20 years on. For the first time, doing all 10 successfully. Never done it since. Ive felt sorry ever since.
That's why I refuse to download any gambling apos on my phone. I know I'd go stupid with it. Waiting for a bus, waiting in line, sat on a bus, half time at football, af breaks while watching TV, etc... I know I'd keep putting bets on.
I feel this. For me it was poker, roulette and black jack. Lost a lot. And when I won I played it all again until it was gone. It’s been almost a year now since I opted to self exclude from all online casinos and bookies and lotteries. I’ve also got myself banned from the local casinos. I am a bit worried though; I know my online exclusion runs out sometime in the next 5 weeks or so, first week of August ish. I just hope when I get that email, that I find the strength again to renew it for another year and to not go straight to an online table.
this is sadly so close to my story started at 16 loosing every pay check wow. these companys make it to easy to teenagers to get around the age verification.
Claims not to be into casinos so can go Vegas yet a few minutes earlier he was telling a story how he lost 12k in casino games! Defo still gambling and on a very slippery slope going to Vegas
Maybe it’s just me but anyone that feels they can justify a betting sojourn in Vagus because it’s “not the same” as footy betting or some other type of betting is not quite free of the addiction yet. Most of us acknowledge it’s not a good thing to do at any level with any justification. It’s not something that makes for a better world. It’s a crap selfish waste of time and money.
Sports betting is fine if kept in check, you can get true prices or a small edge with some research and zoning in edges, it’s not like casino betting where you’re pretty much guaranteed to lose long term …….however the problem arises with the 8% or so gamblers who can’t control their wagering strategy……people in this domain will always do their brains.
I won 49k on poker stars and within 2hrs I had lost it all what did I learn I learned that gambling isn't for me and losing 12k should also tell you that to not police your actions due to the need to either won more or win back what u had won means u can't gamble it's the same for any addict policing yourself is key if u can't Ur an addict
Props to Ellis for opening up about this issue. If you or anyone you know is struggling, we've left some resources in the description. 💛🇳🇺
"happy hour";)
It’s so good to hear someone else express the difficulty, the hook, and how it gets you. It’s unfathomable to anyone who has never experienced it first hand. That struggle only makes sense if you’ve wrestled with it yourself. Honestly, hearing someone else talk about their own experience is so freeing. Thank you Ellis (and Jack).
3 Days is actually what i did with a drug addiction. Your brain and body goes through a type of cycle. Your brain reaches for other thoughts, emotions begin to balance naturally. It's like you're watching and thinking abou the world cup, then it ends. You're sad for a day but 3 days later you're over it.
Bet365 virtual football is the best 😉
Ellis was literally telling my life 2 years ago. Every paycheque I would bet to try and cover bills and lose it. 2 years clean and would never go back
Me too mate.. I joined gamstop 6 months ago and my mental health is so much better👍
Same here man, glad this podcast has had a couple people shine a light on how shit that life is
cmon bro
I'm 4 month and starting to enjoy life finally, years of hell and chasing money
@@FKA1303 keep going man, enjoy that guaranteed finance… I’m 4 years down and £15k debt paid off and never looked back
My advice to anyone who gets involved in gambling, is once you do managed to stop, don’t ever put a bet on again, not even just a little one for fun or because you’ve convinced yourself you can control it. Relapses are real & can lead you to worse places then you were originally in. When he said he still wants his stag do in Vegas alarm bells went off. For an ex gambling addict, that is the worst place you can go
I never got addicted and I do bet each week, £1 lol. If you can control it there's nothing wrong with gambling. Anyone can lose £1 per week (and that's not every week of the year, since the season isn't running in June and July).
@@yutehube4468 sounds like denial to me
I'm on a month of not gambling for the first time in a bout 10 years after blocking and deleting the apps on my phone. Seeing gambling adverts makes me more annoyed than want to download another app now.
The Gambling industry is a disgrace in the UK. From around the clock adverts to free bets it need a serious overhaul.
Blame the British Government. Terrible
Absolute joke
And the old....gamble responsibly
People have personal responsibility
@@lewisbracken5520 in part yes. But the Gambling industry in the UK is still a complete mess. Obscene amounts of advertising and a white paper review that's a decade overdue.
18 months clear of gambling now and couldn't be happier. Saved so much money spent it on my kids instead of bookies and my life feels so much better
Congratulations mate, can’t have been easy 👏🏻
@@zakbartholomew109 cheers mate.. no it wasn't to start but I now realise its the best thing I ever did stopping
See you in the bookies soon pal
What a surprise- who’d have thought 🤔
@@interestingvideos4728 2 years next month
I can relate I once lost 34,000 in an hour, I was playing high stakes blackjack betting $4000 a hand. Gambling has consumed by life and has destroyed relationships with people as well as being in massive debt. To anyone reading this please stop before it becomes a problem too big to come back from. It is not a game you’re playing with, rather it is you’re life.
We will conquer this brother. Payslip just got in and now lost it all. Fck i feel miserable.
Voluntarily Self Exclude yourself for LIFE! It’s the ONLY best bet!
@@drakdoomful😂😂
@@jacobbatey9859 you relate too bro? AHAHAHAHAHA
@@jacobbatey9859 the compassion is real lol.......
Ellis really is a top lad. Good on him for opening up like this to show that even celebrities/youtuber/well known people struggle with the same issues as the common working person!
If you’re a regular in the bookies, and you’re really struggling with addiction, please inform the staff you want a MOSES application! I promise you us lot behind the counter hate seeing you lose money, and I believe the FOBT’s should be banned. MOSES will prevent you from going in any bookmaker in the area for a year, and you can renew it for the years following. If you’re too nervous to ring for yourself, we can also request a callback for you.
Gambling is the worst addiction. Ruined a lot of people
Seeing this and Pie’s conversations, hit it home real hard. Just signed up to gamstop after seeing some comments 🙏🏼
Hope your staying away its tough but better
Well done mate 👍🏻
Gamstop isn't fool proof. Be careful. I gamstopped then used my middle name to sign up and I have 3 active accounts now
@@madfrankiefraser2234 how are you now mate? hope your doing better
I'll always remember the times I'd wake up and a few seconds later it'd hit me how much I'd lost the night before.
I was down 60k of my own money chasing 20k that I had won and then lost. Dangerous game
Literally me RN
Online gambling cost me my business my kids and looking at facing prison due to Tax issues with HMRC....thankfully iv sorted the gambling out now but still paying the price for my passed addictions
I gambled for 11 years and I believe you have 3 stages you go through, 1st stage your up winning 2nd stage is the darkest part of a gambler lose all the time chasing losses and always wanting to gamble when bored or randomly. Final stage you have learnt how to some what control your addiction but have relapses every so often. I then blocked gambling with My bank and my partners so if I wanted to gamble I'd have to wait 48hrs but that put me of gambling, I block any way I could to gamble. My advice would be to do the same to stop. Don't gamble if you never have as once your involved could take a long time to stop. I could say so much more but would be very long. Gambling is a mugs game and I was a mug but now I'm free join me and be free from gambling.
It’s frighteningly addictive
48hrs is revolut right
Big up Ellis man I've been there gambled over 30k away in my early teens and twenties and spend thousands on FIFA too which felt no different than gambling on real sport. Haven't gambled in over a year now after signing up to gamstop
thousands on FIFA ?? that Sepp Blatter really has got a lot to answer to
The new Austin Powers gnashers on Jack lmaooo He can hardly speak with them hahaa
Met him at glastonbury and they were gleaming
@@ltg_2610 big Freddie Mercury vibes lmao
The fact the tops done but bottom set aren’t just looks even more bizarre when he speaks. I get it was an insecurity but he’s almost made it worse!
@@SuperGamingBeast1 I noticed that too. It's hilarious
they look good. instead commenting on others appearance online, you should try sort your life out and you’ll be much happier
GamStop has done wonders for me, can’t even bet if I really wanted to.
The absolute best thing I did was just banning myself and accepting you’re banned. SO many people say they’ll stop but won’t use the system to stop them because they’re not truly committed.
Mate I used to say all the time that I was done but always went back to gambling.. one day decided to join gamstop and can safely say I've never even given gambling a second thought since..
Completely agree with the first bit. Pretty much all my mates who were into football had paddy power accounts by 15 and we bet every weekend on the football, never more than like pocket money but still, one of my mates won €1000 on an acca both teams to score in both halves for 3 of the 3pm kick offs and that really sold us all. Honestly a miracle none of are proper addicts nowadays
Horrible horrible thing to go through. Been through the same situation with my gambling but managed to turn my back on it for the better. Great video once again Happy Hour👏🏻👍🏻
Great interview, it's brilliant to see these high profile people talking about this addiction. Hopefully it will help a lot of younger people identify they have a problem before it's too late.
Top man Phil, your content is great for anti gambling btw, watched a lot of it!
Yet still sponsored by 888
💯 Phil
Legendary honesty. Remember the layers, take away opportunity, take away time, etc. There needs to be more open discussion like this, especially amongst younger gamblers. Top man (ps don’t do Vegas) 😉
Ellis was a great guest - Brilliant podcast
No idea who this is but the advice at the end is fantastic. We'll done for getting through it!
I had a hypothetical gambling problem. But, hypothetically, this video really helped me sort some hypothetical issues. I would like to thank Ellis hypothetically, and maybe buy him a thesaurus for Christmas.
As an Australian I identified the low point of Ellis's gambling addiction as getting up at 6am to watch the A League
Started gambling at 17 in sixth form, used to sit in computer labs at lunchtime an bet on horse racing throughout the day I won a fair bit for the amount bet but I would highly recommend not gambling 6 months clean an I feel so much better for it
That was me aswell
I watched Pieface on the podcast and thought the channel dealt with it very well, it was sensitive and sensible. Then the channel did some sort of promo gambling tour abroad. I was shocked to see the channel promoting gambling, given everything that Piceface had said about how destructive gambling is. I hope the channel thinks again before promoting gambling.
Is that Pieface who spends all day every day opening FIFA packs for children? Then warns children on the dangers of gambling? Jesus fcking Christ.
I've seen both sides of this. Grew up in New Zealand where gambling advertising during sport is not aloud. And now live in Australia where it is.
I never seen gamblers back home in NZ. Here in Aus, the 14 year old kids at the cricket club know horses and trainers.
Lol should see Auckland now days
Live in New South Wales? The pokies in EVERY pub...its honestly disgusting we're just so used to it we don't see it
*allowed
What I find to work is long betts ex: I have $100 on city to win the league + mbappe top scorer in Ligue 1+ Barcelona top 2+ Harland top scorer so it doesn't finish for a year and I get the feeling of gambling every week but I don't place any more betts.
I work in a supermarket and yesterday we had a couple come in and the man was all over the girl. She was trying to get money from us for an imovo voucher, which is something you get and give to a shop and they use the barcode to give you the money on it. The man had just spent 1200 in the bookies down the road and lost all their money when they have kids to feed. He wasn’t even bothered aswell it was as if it was a normal thing to him. Crazy how many people are addicted and won’t admit
Can tell he still has a gambling addiction aswell, seen his twitch recently and he’s spending loads on packs of cards risking it to get a card that’s valuable 😥
Does he I thought that was pieface... I know Ellis loves collecting shirts.
This is an entirely different scenario although I take the concern. I’m able to do them openings as part of my job for entertainment.
When I was an addict I was spending 24 hours a day betting on every sport possible, incapable of doing anything else of note
@@awaydaysfootball you’ll always be the addict my man
Just grew strong enough to control the addiction.
Well done brother keep up good work!
@@EaRl-ChApPo 1000% the thought of placing a bet on sports or betting on blackjack etc now really concerns me.
Approaching 6 years in November though!
@@awaydaysfootball you should be nothing but proud my man!! Watching this pod brings me so much happiness for you!
Liverpool treble this year👏🏼don’t miss it😉
I lost 3.5MM in a week. I didnt stop gambling. Gambling stopped me.
Its easily the worse addiction out there, over crack, over heroin..a very dangerous game that will ruin your life instantly.
Ellis mentioned about anger at losing, the amount of times I’ve seen people going nuts at the machines in the bookies is ridiculous on roulette and slots (which are digital so they are so blatantly rigged it’s unreal)
They aren't "rigged"... the odds are just heavily in the bookies favour. You are typically picking perhaps 10 winning numbers to make money, so you have a roughly 30% chance of winning give or take. Thus their odds of winning are 70%.
It's usually done in such a way that if you bet on any more than half of the wheel, even if you win, you will lose out overall on that spin as the winnings are less than what you've put on the wheel.
@@thefiestaguy8831 Your maths is horribly wrong but they have a house edge of anywhere from 3-10% per spin depending on the game. The games are rigged in their favour anyway so they don't even need to "cheat" to win
@@flibujo Not really. If you have 10 numbers out of the 36 numbers on the roulette wheel, that's very roughly 30%. 12 out of 36 is one third, or 33.3333333% for one single spin. Using the term "rigged" sort of suggests they have manipulated the software or the wheel to always go in their favour.... they haven't, the pure mathematical odds means it will go in their favour overall.
I remember feeling like pure shit the first time I went to a casino and lost £40 on my first two hands of blackjack. Can't even begin to comprehend losing £12k in a night.
Honestly think it should be banned for those unable to prove a minimum monthly income... too easy to say "ill just drop £40"
I lost 12,500 too, everything I had, over 3 weeks
@@sheikhando4815 how bro why dint u withdraw half an keep half in
@@jaylenbrown7757 I withdrew all 12.8, then lost it through £50 quid deposits, went down to 8k and then lost 4K one weekend and 4.2 on one Friday, stupid, just couldn’t sleep bc of the stress, had a long 2 years on £0 , no Xmas dinners or birthdays, bc my debt is too big
@@sheikhando4815 ive never made 12k but i have done the same mistake with 1k , i now dont withdraw it all i leave some in that im ok with losing or just playing with for fun
First time watching the channel for a few months and i’ve been blinded immediately by Jack’s new teeth 😁
They look so dumb
Same bro was not expecting that haha
must of been to turkey
thought it was a gumshield
Gambling is evil. I have never smoked or drank in my life but I’m the most reckless gambler ever.
Remember watching his Away days videos back in 2014 and 2015 watching all the small teams round Norfolk
Get on gamban and ban yourself for 5 years I did it a year ago and it was the best thing I've ever done.
I agree mate, I'm on gamstop and never looked back
I agree it's the only thing that really really does work
I learned so much by gambling a bit. Worth the money. Now I know and I felt the mess, addiction and the management/psychology it takes. My overall balance is around and similar to -£2000 in losses (worst in the beginning over 2 years). Money wise it's a waste of time. If you win "big" then stop for a long time. You had a streak of luck and it's rare. It's 5-10 deposits you will lose before there is luck enough to get something back and cover the amount used. You have to withdraw some for that to work. Usually it's just down, down, down with any balance.
That's peanuts to be honest. I'm ashamed to admit over a period of 4-5 years I lost probably around £40,000.
I'm a working class person and have been working in the emergency services for the last 5 and a half years.
Would regularly lose a LOT of money. One day I lost £800 and the following day I lost £1,000 in the space of 3 hours. Next day I lost £250.
I had a large ish win in 2017, winning £4,750 from a single £10 accumulator but it was a complete fluke and a stroke of luck, one of those "Once in a lifetime" moments that would never happen again.
Been registered with GameStop and not gambled since summer 2022, about 7-8 months.
Completely agree. I recently turned 21 and I’m lucky to up over the course of visits to the casino, but I always prioritized understanding how to responsibly do it rather than seeing $$$ everywhere.
I no longer see casinos as a way to make money or play for hours. I accept that I already spent my entrance fee when I arrive, aka what I’m comfortable losing. I accept
that it’s realistic I only play for a few minutes, then I’m gone. There’s no round 2 to fix losses. There’s no “I lost too quickly and need more plays to make my trip worth it.” Just the fee for my entertainment, whether it be for just 5 minutes or an hour to blow through it.
I did this same thing playing online poker. Turned $25 into $10,000 in 30 hours. Slept for 3 hours and woke up to lose it all. Luckily it made me so sick i excluded myself from all gambling and just dont have the urge anymore.
anybody that is considering gambling needs to go into it with the mindset of only gambling what youre willing to lose. you know how only the 1% of the 1% become professional footballers? well take that theory and apply it to gambling as well. you might be able to win a little bit of money from it in the short term but unless you are the best of the best you are always gonna lose it in the long term so always assume whatever money you’re gambling is gonna turn into a loss.
I’m in this situation now, blowing my entire paycheck in hours on online casinos. It’s come to a point where I’m realizing it’s not about winning. I’ve deposited $100 and ran it up to $5k and lost it all that same night. If it was about winning, I could win and walk away
Well, Im 19, and I started at 14 with coinflips site and stuff... didn't bet at 15, then at 16 back to betting. I bet almost everyday and it's a second life for me. Im addicted, but never gambled something Im not supposed to. Never been to a debt of over 50$, and I knew exactly when Im paying it back.
Me and my friend like to bet on esports matches or on NBA, talk about it most of our day, and watch the games togather and have fun.
We don't rage bet much... but we are trying to have fun.
Yet, I wish I never met with gambling and never introduced my friends to gambling.
Take care people.
I know it's always the cliche that you win first bet then hooked but I genuinely think if you win or lose your first bet it makes a massive difference
Yep won 3 out of my first 4 accas about 10 years ago
I think that is a fallacy tbh & maybe gamblers convinced themselves that they won their first bet as if it is in some way an excuse (I'm a reformed gambler ftr)
@@martinworld7214 maybe right. Only going off myself although I don't really gamble anymore thank god. Only have a bet if I go to the races
@@charleswilkinson4458 it’s good to be in control brother !!
Don’t gamblers get addicted to close calls though like where they feel like they about to win and don’t that does something to the brain chasing the feeling like your about to win.
Great conversation lads. It's the absolute wild west online with slots streamers. Prem clubs like Everton no idea why it is so bad.
Can relate so much. When it was bad for me I also won £15k in one night online (roulette) but wasn't able to withdraw immediately so lost it all in the meantime. Still took another 2 years to give up completely. Horrid habit
Good on you for stopping dude. It's not easy
I put myself in £6000 credit card debt at 18 years old… Im still paying it now years later. GamStop saved me.
hey im just curious how did that happen? thanks
@@jameshartley95 It started when I was around 18 using my very little wage. Between 18-20 i took out a credit card with £2000 limit which i maxed then took out a loan to clear it, then maxed the same credit card again then another loan and maxed my card again… it was a nightmare. So happy Ive managed to kick the addiction and nearly paid everything off
@@GD-lk7jd amazing news what a warrior ❤️❤️👌✊👊❤️
It’s the winning feeling you were addicted to, not the game. So a casino would be a terrible idea mate.
American sports do not have gambling adverts during shows. What is bad is when you watch UK sport especially Football half of the adverts are betting. Its so bad. Sky even have their own betting company they heavily promote during sports. I didn't realise this myself until I was living in Canada and a friend who would watch UK streams of Football said he was shocked about all the vetting ads during live sport. No wonder there is a gambling pandemic in the UK. What makes me sick is how these companies offer free bets when you start
We have a shit ton now sadly. .
this is simply not true, there is a whistle to whistle ban on gambling in the UK which all operators adhere to.
I did exactly the same walked into a bookies with my paper round money at 13/14 and walked out 20 mins later with £250 off £20 I was hooked from then and only stopped 5 years ago won big but lost big
I’m not even joking this has really made me realise how fucked I am think I’m going to stop
His first bet makes no sense, at no point in his LFC career was Sturridge ever 11/1 to return £60 from £5
He will have been on the DDHH offer
Could of been a offer or half time sub
We could end gambling addiction with one simple rule: gambling bankruptcy. Gambling debt gets reduced to a ratio decided by a judge (e.g.30% than lost amount) and you can't gamble again until you paid it back. It also entails some inconveniences such as no access to debt. Gambling businesses have the responsibility of enforcing the rule, and they suffer the loss when the debt gets cutted. This would shift the societal cost of gambling addiction on the businesses, a strong incentive to check customer's spending and have safeguards
Jack looks like he’s swallowed a piano
This was the same as me not bet for 6 months now. And life is so much better without.
What's the odds they get another gambling addict on the show?.. No seriously what are the odds I just need to know seriously guys just give me the odds already!! *Scratches arm*
3 Days is actually what i did with a drug addiction. Your brain and body goes through a type of cycle. Your brain reaches for other thoughts, emotions begin to balance naturally. It's like you're watching and thinking abou the world cup, then it ends. You're sad for a day but 3 days later you're over it.
This happened to me when I was 18, I made £10k from £50 and lost it all the same night after telling my mum I'll pay her debt off. I'm now 28 and have relapsed after 6 years, which ruined my most recent relationship of 3 years and half years. Gambling can destroy lives, DON'T DO IT unless you can control yourself.
The hardest reality of any gambler is that there is no way to make back the losses, and just realizing your chasing a feeling of your time. Finding a feeling outside of it and continuously not breaking back into the cycle of gambling is the tough part from cutting it off initially and for good. Needing to think about something else to take up your time, but with also realizing your consumption of time with whatever it is will also probably be an addiction, just make sure it is a productive one.
It’s weird. I have an super addictive personality but gambling has never ‘got’ me. Probably what helped was losing my birthday money in the bookies on roulette, when you could bet more than £1. I was chasing red 😂
Now I can happily spend £20 a week on a bet, if it wins it wins if not no problem.
Charlie on the other hand…
giving up drinking will help a lot.. only really want it when youve had a drink
@@bringyouinuk_889 I can resist anything but temptation
i stuck £100 of my birthday cash in the fruity one year, back home by mid day
@@bringyouinuk_889 that isn't far off the mark..always gave staying power on sessions when generally after 5 or 6 I was ruined . Chuck in a bit of the old showbiz sherbert & and the gateway to 6 more pints opens
Just ban myself with GameStop for 5 years, started as soon as I turned 18 and went down a shit path so quickly, so glad I finally made the stop
what a smart young man
Robbie being mates with Didi haman is a mad one ha.
Hes completely right at the start the way online betting is being projected to younger viewers will probably lead to them trying and maybe win then there drew in more
*they’re
I’m only a month clear of Gambling and it feels good…. I’m tired of it. Winning worst thing that can happen… it just makes you hungrier for more.
My problem was mainly slots.
Anyway long way to go, but I’m trying my best and more importantly I’ve been 💯 transparent to my Wife and people around me. That was difficult but it glad I admitted I had a problem
Such a good shout re: virtual sports. Same as speed versions of blackjacks, roulette etc. As for schools. I remember gambling on the school PC at 17. Had a ladbrokes account for a year on a photoshopped ID
It's always someone else's fault. "We look up to the players in the shirts with gambling sponsorships", "withdrawals take 24hrs to process, that's how they get you" etc.
Grow up and take some responsibility. No one is forcing you to gamble.
Stop trying to justify the casinos making it difficult for people to pay people money they've won fair and square they don't mind you losing thousands but as soon as you try cash out they want ID and everything else loool imagine trying to justify that
Wow..top lad this guy
.glad he came out fine.
Loving the Alan Partridge specials Jack! 🫦
Dont do it man. You are NEVER gonna get the euphoric feeling back of winning. You dont want to win, you want to feel the rush. And the worst thing is, your conscious doing it. Its a killer addiction
Nice to see bugs bunny has a podcast
All I can focus on us Jack's Teeth
he bugged out
They were so yellow and poo teeth Keith before
Not gambled since last July and do not miss it. Do not be pulled back in by Cheltenham or those fake William Hill adds, gambling destroys lives etc. Stay clean.
I am giving myself one last chance to chase losing and I will be closing all of my online accounts permanently
this sounds really plausible , my last bet ever this will be ......:)
the story bout the guy losing £250k on cricket is Didi Hamann, it is public knowledge
I can relate pal, i guess there is loads of people like us or still have a problem, one day i went to all my local casinos and asked them to ban me, it worked i never have had a problem since
Kids gambling at school always been a thing. We used to go in William hill on the way home from school and put the rest of our money in the roulette lol
Whatever happened to happy half hour with Robbie really miss those pods 😢
When did Rob Beckett get a podcast
I been gambling for 13 years it's absolute horrible
The fact that you’ve been gambling for 13 yrs should tell you that the whole game is a big scam!
I hope you managed to get help
I don't gamble on sports.
I only gamble on things like The Oscars, where the outcome is reasonably predictable. In fact, one year, I made a point of only gambling JUST based on the trailers. I didn't watch a single film and I came out with about £90.
My first year gambling on The Oscars, I bet £5 on each of the 10 categories (Picture, Director, actor, actress, supporting actor, supporting actress, original screenplay, adapted screenplay, foreign film, animated film) 10 bets, £5 each.. Came good on each.
My friend asked "did you put an acca on?" I asked "whats an acca?"
Maaaaate. nearly 20 years on. For the first time, doing all 10 successfully. Never done it since. Ive felt sorry ever since.
You can’t online gamble under 18 you need to send photo ID to the companies to cash out
Great Ep! Although Didn't realise Rylan was on the panel hah.
Do not gamble. The house always wins.
Plus they use magnets
That's why I refuse to download any gambling apos on my phone. I know I'd go stupid with it. Waiting for a bus, waiting in line, sat on a bus, half time at football, af breaks while watching TV, etc... I know I'd keep putting bets on.
Speaking of horse racing check out those nashers
I feel this. For me it was poker, roulette and black jack. Lost a lot. And when I won I played it all again until it was gone. It’s been almost a year now since I opted to self exclude from all online casinos and bookies and lotteries. I’ve also got myself banned from the local casinos. I am a bit worried though; I know my online exclusion runs out sometime in the next 5 weeks or so, first week of August ish. I just hope when I get that email, that I find the strength again to renew it for another year and to not go straight to an online table.
How are you getting on now bud?
yeah how's things ^^
he died sorry
I reckon jack could eat a sandwich through a letterbox with those choppers.
this is sadly so close to my story started at 16 loosing every pay check wow. these companys make it to easy to teenagers to get around the age verification.
*losing
@@lewisbracken5520 Cheers lewis
It’s doesn’t let you put your limit up instantly it takes 24 hours or more
Haven’t watched for a while someone please tell me that’s not Jacks new teeth and they’re just some kind of retainer or temp set!
See why Ellis dislike gambling sponsorship on shirts, I agree
Jesus christ Jack's new teeth are whiter than his shirt
Thanks!
@@HappyHourPodcast looking good mate
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402 simping , just admit it , looks ridiculous
@@martinworld7214 lmao, your opinion is your opinion mate. Don't need to be a "simp" to have an opinion.
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402 :) fair do’s you are entitled to it I guess
Claims not to be into casinos so can go Vegas yet a few minutes earlier he was telling a story how he lost 12k in casino games! Defo still gambling and on a very slippery slope going to Vegas
They were online casino games
Maybe it’s just me but anyone that feels they can justify a betting sojourn in Vagus because it’s “not the same” as footy betting or some other type of betting is not quite free of the addiction yet. Most of us acknowledge it’s not a good thing to do at any level with any justification. It’s not something that makes for a better world. It’s a crap selfish waste of time and money.
Sports betting is fine if kept in check, you can get true prices or a small edge with some research and zoning in edges, it’s not like casino betting where you’re pretty much guaranteed to lose long term …….however the problem arises with the 8% or so gamblers who can’t control their wagering strategy……people in this domain will always do their brains.
This is life changing we are going to go on holiday? 😂
I won 49k on poker stars and within 2hrs I had lost it all what did I learn I learned that gambling isn't for me and losing 12k should also tell you that to not police your actions due to the need to either won more or win back what u had won means u can't gamble it's the same for any addict policing yourself is key if u can't Ur an addict
and now I have a headache
Same, it’s awful because I only have £200 after bills and I won 14.8k from £250