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"Never use plugins on the input when tracking". Producing 100% ITB I break this rule all the time. I have channel templates with different plugins and settings for Vocals, DI guitar and DI bass. Nothing wild, just light saturation, colour and compression to emulate recording through pre-amps and consoles.
To study music, we must learn the rules. To create music, we must break them!!! 🎶🎹🎶🎸 Excellent tips Matthew... trust your ears and be willing to take risks!!!🎙
I have panned my snare as well. I built a production with the image of a band on stage and a drum kit layout. But that is a very tasteful tactic that i do.
Always choose the highest oversampling option! Brutus: "Nah. More isn't necessarily better and can dull the transients." Also, don't use linear phase EQs except on multiple miked sources! Depends. Use yours ears. Mix in context.
I think Dali said it best, "Learn to paint like the masters, then do whatever you want." I think what Matthew did was told us why he was breaking the so called rules. Me? I think I have always just diid what worked, for each project. Oh and another verb to use on the master bus that I have found that works is the T-Verb from Eventide. ;)
About the high pass thing, I think it matters more in loud and distorted tracks where you try to squeeze everything as much as possible and you need to clean low end stuff that doesn't really contribute to the sound of each instrument cause it can build up and take up headroom.
Fun video. I wonder if some of these rules are handed down from mixing for vinyl? otoh if you are unsure about what to do grabbing onto hard and fast rules may be tempting before gaining the confidence to simply trust what you hear and feel sounds good and going with your own instincts.
Fun vid Matt. I think most likely these rules evolve out of failed productions, if its tracked and arranged well, mixing isn’t necessarily hard and can be very intuitive. However, for alot of amateurs you are dealing with less than ideal sonics to begin with.
A lot of “always do this” rules stem from the assumption that your DIY recordings are bad. In a professional recording situation, you won’t be problemsolving as much because mic placement and processing on the way in was done deliberately
Can you imagine how many amazing records wouldnt have happened if people didnt break rules in the studio? One rule i break is I like to go back to the mix after mastering to fine tune and i cant imagine not doing that. Tweaking things a couple of db in the mix can really sweeten the final product.
I'm always intrigued by the "NO EQ in solo mode"; Bob Clearmountain follows this to very, very good effect. All I need is, his ears, his SSL, his outboard, his Apogees etc., etc. Until then, I'll have to just EQ in solo I guess... :-)
How can you "digitaly clip" by adding gain above 0 DBFS in a 32 bit float environement ? I'm really curious about this one (at16:00). Answer : There is no possible digital clipping in a 32 bit floating point calculation domain, which is how all modern DAWs operate. The clipping can take place after the mixbus level exceeds 0 DBFS in your DA converter or in the digital file when the bit depth is reduced to 24 bit or lower for example, but never within you plugins in you DAW in your channels.
@@neovxr He was trying to clip the sound by adding 18db to exceed the 0 DBFS barrier and clip and then remove 17.4 db to have the clipped sound at same level. The point was comparing this to an actual clipper plugin. Problem is again, you can't clip your sound even if you add 600 Db of gain to your snare because your daw is operating at 32bit float or 64 bit float. As a reminder in 32 bit float the dynamic range is 1680 db, from -840db to +840db. So adding 18 db above 0dbfs or adding 180 db will simply never clip since you still have available dynamic range. Hope my answer was clear.
@@MariJu1ceI think you should rewatch from minute 16:00 when he adds 18 db of gain to get in red zone in his protools compressor. You might reconsider your comment... :) Unless you have no clue of what he actualy did of course.
Everything you said sounds 'pretty darn good' actually, to my ears at least, sounded awful. Sorry, but from the get-go the mix sounded weak and undefined. As soon as it started I zoned in on the bass and thought it had no impact at all. The vocal mixed in solo sounded like a nasty preset had been applied and that was that. But each to their own, I suppose... The irony here is that all the rules that were broken only managed to sound as if they hadn't been broken at all just mixed badly. The reverb on the bass, for example, was hardly Bob Clearmountain levels: it was hardly there in the mix. No point in breaking rules if you can't hear where they're being broken.
Rather than just cutting off that atmospheric sound when the verse starts, you could have it fade away. This might give the sense of curtains parting to reveal of the main part of the song.
Can everyone help me, please? ATC SCM12 PRO(w/AvantoneCLA200), Dynaudio BM 6A, or Mackie HR824 MK2? All these are sealed because I suppose it's more forgiving of improperly treated rooms. Thanks.
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My favorite “rule” to break is tracking with compression on the way in. I often use 2!
@@ItsMetabtw Haha me too! I always compress on the way in! Everybody did until recently
I deliberately ignore the "Never touch the master fader" rule.
"Never use plugins on the input when tracking". Producing 100% ITB I break this rule all the time. I have channel templates with different plugins and settings for Vocals, DI guitar and DI bass. Nothing wild, just light saturation, colour and compression to emulate recording through pre-amps and consoles.
@@MarcBecker_Music haha me too!
To study music, we must learn the rules. To create music, we must break them!!! 🎶🎹🎶🎸 Excellent tips Matthew... trust your ears and be willing to take risks!!!🎙
Very well said!
Your happiness when you said springy thingy was just pure joy on your face haha
Hahaha Thanks! I laughed at that too! - Warren
Thanks for the reply warren!! @Producelikeapro
@@SkinnEmannProductions you're very welcome!
Did my inner child peak out for a moment 😂
@@WeissAdvice haha apparently so!
"online is where the truth goes to die" isn't that just the perfect description!
Haha agreed!
These are great points Matt! I guess i've been breaking all the rules again.... Oh no...
Haha thanks ever so much!
I have panned my snare as well. I built a production with the image of a band on stage and a drum kit layout. But that is a very tasteful tactic that i do.
Very cool! Yes, The Beatles did it after all! Haha
Always choose the highest oversampling option! Brutus: "Nah. More isn't necessarily better and can dull the transients." Also, don't use linear phase EQs except on multiple miked sources! Depends. Use yours ears. Mix in context.
I think Dali said it best, "Learn to paint like the masters, then do whatever you want." I think what Matthew did was told us why he was breaking the so called rules. Me? I think I have always just diid what worked, for each project. Oh and another verb to use on the master bus that I have found that works is the T-Verb from Eventide. ;)
As Duke Ellington said, if it sounds good, it _is_ good.
About the high pass thing, I think it matters more in loud and distorted tracks where you try to squeeze everything as much as possible and you need to clean low end stuff that doesn't really contribute to the sound of each instrument cause it can build up and take up headroom.
Absolutely! Makes perfect sense
Fun video. I wonder if some of these rules are handed down from mixing for vinyl? otoh if you are unsure about what to do grabbing onto hard and fast rules may be tempting before gaining the confidence to simply trust what you hear and feel sounds good and going with your own instincts.
Good question! Rules tend not really to exist in most circumstances that I've experienced, it's usually how people interpret things afterwards!
On Beatles’ “Sergeant Pepper” Jeoff Emerick used hi-passed reverb on bass.
Marvellous! Yes, he said Paul would insist on NO reverb on his Bass, then after he left Geoff would add it back in! Haha
Great video and a great song ❤❤❤
Thanks ever so much!
Yes, Matt did an amazing job!
@@Producelikeapro I found the song on RUclips and added it to my playlist. Thank you so much.
Fun vid Matt. I think most likely these rules evolve out of failed productions, if its tracked and arranged well, mixing isn’t necessarily hard and can be very intuitive. However, for alot of amateurs you are dealing with less than ideal sonics to begin with.
Thanks Jon! Agreed 100%!
❤❤Thank You❤❤
Thank you!
A lot of “always do this” rules stem from the assumption that your DIY recordings are bad. In a professional recording situation, you won’t be problemsolving as much because mic placement and processing on the way in was done deliberately
That's definitely part of it, however in mixing there are still a lot of stereotypes which don;t apply anymore. Thanks for sharing!
Can you imagine how many amazing records wouldnt have happened if people didnt break rules in the studio? One rule i break is I like to go back to the mix after mastering to fine tune and i cant imagine not doing that. Tweaking things a couple of db in the mix can really sweeten the final product.
I'm always intrigued by the "NO EQ in solo mode"; Bob Clearmountain follows this to very, very good effect. All I need is, his ears, his SSL, his outboard, his Apogees etc., etc. Until then, I'll have to just EQ in solo I guess... :-)
How can you "digitaly clip" by adding gain above 0 DBFS in a 32 bit float environement ? I'm really curious about this one (at16:00). Answer : There is no possible digital clipping in a 32 bit floating point calculation domain, which is how all modern DAWs operate. The clipping can take place after the mixbus level exceeds 0 DBFS in your DA converter or in the digital file when the bit depth is reduced to 24 bit or lower for example, but never within you plugins in you DAW in your channels.
so you have clipper plugins tha tsimulate many types of clipping..
@@neovxr He was trying to clip the sound by adding 18db to exceed the 0 DBFS barrier and clip and then remove 17.4 db to have the clipped sound at same level. The point was comparing this to an actual clipper plugin. Problem is again, you can't clip your sound even if you add 600 Db of gain to your snare because your daw is operating at 32bit float or 64 bit float. As a reminder in 32 bit float the dynamic range is 1680 db, from -840db to +840db. So adding 18 db above 0dbfs or adding 180 db will simply never clip since you still have available dynamic range. Hope my answer was clear.
hes using a clipper plugin =)
@@MariJu1ceI think you should rewatch from minute 16:00 when he adds 18 db of gain to get in red zone in his protools compressor. You might reconsider your comment... :) Unless you have no clue of what he actualy did of course.
This should be interesting...!
It's excellent! We love Matt!
Better generalisation rule for EQ: Subtract with digital add with analog for flavour
😀
Thanks ever so much!
Everything you said sounds 'pretty darn good' actually, to my ears at least, sounded awful. Sorry, but from the get-go the mix sounded weak and undefined. As soon as it started I zoned in on the bass and thought it had no impact at all. The vocal mixed in solo sounded like a nasty preset had been applied and that was that. But each to their own, I suppose... The irony here is that all the rules that were broken only managed to sound as if they hadn't been broken at all just mixed badly. The reverb on the bass, for example, was hardly Bob Clearmountain levels: it was hardly there in the mix. No point in breaking rules if you can't hear where they're being broken.
I totally agree
What if my dogmatic mixing rule is if it sounds good then it is good 🤔
Then you are doing fine! Haha
Rather than just cutting off that atmospheric sound when the verse starts, you could have it fade away. This might give the sense of curtains parting to reveal of the main part of the song.
Can everyone help me, please?
ATC SCM12 PRO(w/AvantoneCLA200),
Dynaudio BM 6A,
or
Mackie HR824 MK2?
All these are sealed because I suppose it's more forgiving of improperly treated rooms. Thanks.
excellent concept & experiment - and the mix sounded AWFUL!