Awesome idea. It does work people. I put my speaker in an old 8" firecracker drum shell I had laying around. Just a tip though. Put your D112 inside the bass drum about 6 inches away from the beater, then mix the two mics. The internal mic gives you tons of attack that mixes really nice with the big warm sound of the subkick. ;)
JUST MADE One today, and based it off your video, but we mounted ares in a tom and had the male xlr on the drum just like yamahas, so now we just plug are xlr in the drum, and we mounted are old condenser pencil mic inside the subkick and wired a small xlr next to the other one on the outside like we drilled holes to mount the cables internaly, so now we have an all in one system, we just got done testing it out, it adds so much low end, and it only picks up the bass kick. THANKS FOR THE IDEA!!
@HipCovers All mics need preamps, not just ones that need phantom power. The point of a preamp is to amplify the signal coming from the mic. When you're doing something like plugging straight into the computer it's got enough gain to work as a preamp, though it's not going to sound terribly great. I'd never plug a drum mic straight into the computer though, you're dealing with high SPLs anyway, not to mention subkicks generally have a pretty high output.
@xalevedi It's a Pearl VBX Birch kit with clear Emperors on it. I've got a Drum Dial but I don't use it, I just do the standard method, loosening everything, tightening everything til it's finger tight, then giving equal turns to each lug until it's the pitch I want it.
@Irish614 I don't use an outboard mixer, I use a Firestudio Tube (I've got a Firestudio Project as well). I do have a console that's not set up yet, but with that I'll go out of each channel onto each channel of the Firestudio. Yeah I've heard great things about the D6. A subkick is definitely not a necessary thing for every kick sound, and it can even be redundant with mics like the D112. But it's really great if you use a mic that's got great high end (an SDC/LDC maybe) to supplement that.
@543diditwork Not phase issues, it's just not that big of a speaker so it's kind of adding redundant frequencies around 200hz. If it was phase issues then when the mics were together you'd only really hear the top end. Use a bigger speaker for lower frequencies than the D112. That mic picks up pretty low anyway, a subkick is going to be more useful when used with a mic that doesn't pick up as low, like an SDC or SM57 or the like.
Hey really good video, very clear and concise. I'm definitely going to give this a try, and i'll make up a little cabbinet out of MDF to house it. i have 2 Questions, i have an old infinity 10" subwoofer that needs a job, do you think this would be suitable as a subkick, also is this just a standard XLR mic lead you used?
@cj691 They very well might. Thanks though! I think that the fact that the speaker is relatively small for a subkick makes it pick up a lot of 200hz, which when boosted (from being combined with the D112) kind of has a similar, not terribly pleasant muddy sound, which is a kind of sound that's also easy to get accidentally when things are out of phase. I checked phase, everything was set here. I rarely need a subkick, but next time I'd definitely use a bigger speaker for mine.
@eRealist This has been covered. The phase is correct - I flipped the phase, moved the mics until they cancel the most, and then flipped it back. There are many things you're not taking into account, one being that this is only an 8" speaker, which is boxy anyway in a way that out of phase sounds can be boxy. On top of that you have what RUclips's compression is doing to the sound. Also the speaker is aligned with the capsule, not the very front tip of the grill. Leave it alone.
@aoeria Yes I have, I'm a more than competent engineer! This subkick is just on the small size and tends to emphasize the 100-200Hz area that is generally where things start poking out also when they're out of phase. Phase issues often make things sound boxy, and this happens to just have too much of those boxy frequencies, but it's not because of phase. Next time I'll be going for something bigger than this one was, I don't use it often because of this!
Great video. Did i hear a bit of In Bloom right at the end? And also would you happen to know if a DIY subkick mic could be used on a bass amp, or on a guitar amp to emphasize low frequencies?
Nice sound man, what type of mixer are you using to record? I have a crappy Alesis that can only record 2 channels so I am stuck not being able to eq each mic individually. I use the Audix D6 on my kick and absolutely love the thing, with that mic there is no need for any sub kick mics.
@xalevedi Honestly, I'm not sure. It seems to me like the kick port kind of has a different purpose than a subkick. While both seem to intend to improve bass response, the kick port seems to be more about moving more air in the room, while the subkick is intended to pick up very low frequencies that are at the lower end of what humans can hear. I don't have any experience with the kick port, and I haven't yet seem proof that it's not a "snake oil" product, but that doesn't mean it is!
@uryeluryel It's a Zildian 22" A Custom medium ride. There's a crash that's in the frame while I'm playing the ride, but you can see the crash moves when I hit it, but not when you're hearing the ride.
I'll bet if you look really close at the white board the terminals are on, they will have a '+' and '-' pressed into it. Anyway, Nice sound; I cant tell if I just like the AKG or both together. During the first part it sounded like the subkick was out of phase but I really can't tell with just my Sennheiser HD280 cans. Other parts into the video sounded great with both, though.
@jacoboscar79 Thanks! Absolutely, it would actually work significantly better than what I used here. I think most people use 10" speakers. I wouldn't recommend using a 6" speaker like I used, it doesn't give great response in the sub lows that are desired from a subkick.
@spikeyty That's definitely the easiest way to mount the subkick, just having it in the cabinet. People have used NS10 monitors this way for years. Good luck!
@Calcard94 I'm def. a big believer in cutting excess low end, often a lot more than someone would expect to. For bass guitar I could agree with saying to cut below 50hz since you're not really perceiving notes that low as much as just feeling low end. So I'd cut that off there, but that leaves a nice hole in the frequencies where the kick "oomph" can sit, without stepping on the bass guitar. But I'd only really use it in music that needs really strong low end like R&B, reggae, maybe metal.
@jakamake 10" might be too big, in that it could pick up only low-end that is too low to hear. It might be fine though, I'd give it a try. Mine is 6" and I wish it were 8" because it picks up more low-mids than I want. If I had a spare 10" speaker I'd try it in a heartbeat!
I'm sure it does make a difference as the impedance of a microphone or preamp input does affect the sound, but I would imagine since it's for a sound that's not exactly high fidelity it might not be something people worry about too much. NS10 monitors that have been traditionally used for subkicks are 8Ω, so maybe that'd be a good start, but I didn't worry about it.
@mrstudes Thanks! Very cool, I wouldn't expect a 15" speaker to give mostly frequencies too low to be usable. Nice. Yeah a DI is a good idea. Also with a lot of speakers a pad is necessary to not overload the pre.
@ianbhtube The infinity sounds perfect. A speaker made to reproduce sub frequencies will definitely pick them up well. 10" is a great size for that. And yep, it's just a normal XLR mic lead, just instead of the female XLR it's connected to the speaker. An MDF cabinet sounds like it could work nicely, I'd love to see some pictures or a video of that!
Thanks. Not quite anything from In Bloom here, though I do love In Bloom! I think a subkick should work on a bass amp too, and maybe guitar. It's possible that the subkick works well solely because of the amount of air/SPL hitting the speaker in the subkick and so a bass wouldn't move it, but it's definitely worth a try. It might work but be a bit lower of an output, which wouldn't be a bad thing. If you give it a try let me know what you find, I'd be curious!
@jessegimbel I never said your mic's were out of phase, I said that a lot of people said that they didn't get a good sound until they reversed the phase. I have no idea why that is, but it wouldn't hurt to try. Perhaps they were double micing at different distances, who knows. What I read seemed to be concerning the construction of them as it said reverse the polarity of the wires going to the speaker. Unfortunately I can't post a link to give an example...
@blueredfred2 A normal XLR cable does have three wires. You want to join the negative and the ground, so you either solder both the negative and ground to the sleeve of the 1/4" plug, or just put a little jumper wire between negative and ground (generally pins 1 and 3) in the XLR. If you Google "XLR to 1/4" Mono Plug" there's a great little diagram on MediaCollege, it won't allow me to post the link here.
@Bemmel5566 What is "that" that you're referring to that isn't sub? You should clarify what you're trying to pick on here. Yes, 100hz isn't what I'd consider "sub" low, but I never said anything about using a subkick to get 100hz-area lows. If you're having trouble hearing sub lows from this video, it's probably due to poor listening conditions, or RUclips's processing of audio. Yes this subkick picks up around 100hz, but also lower. Bigger speakers will also pick up lower, I'd recommend 8-10".
@xalevedi Do you mean a recording gig or live gig? For live sound I think they'd have a pretty different effect on the sound. I'd love to hear what you thought of a before and after with the kick port
@moenmusician New camera! I'm using a Nikon D90 now instead of the isight camera built into my laptop! I'll have some music videos up here when my new album is finished that I shot with it too. Thanks for the compliments, keep watching! More videos coming very soon.
@543diditwork Phase trouble is caused by mic placement - one sound hitting two mics at slightly different times. When two mics are close like in this, they're not going to be 180 deg. out of phase (when flipping the phase would fix it). But in my demo they're in phase. And like I said, it's because of the speaker I used that there's a boost at 200hz. It says in the video I used a 6" speaker - I'd recommend bigger. And this is just a demo, yes 200hz isn't too useful for kick in a mix.
@pabloAXMO I'm not sure what you're asking..if you're looking for how an actual speaker puts out sound, you'd probably be best looking it up on something that can explain the sciences accurately. If you're asking how to make the subkick, it's all in the video, I don't know how to explain it any better. As far as how it functions, the sound from the kick drum pushes the speaker back which transfers energy back through the cord to what you have it plugged into.
Sounds like the two mics on your kick are not quite in phase. When they are combined their is a lot less low end. Everything else on your kit sounds great though.
@jessegimbel Then maybe its youtube or something, or, as you said, the frequency of the subkick boosts at 200hz. What size speaker are you using? From everything I read 6-8" is about ideal and will boost around 50hz. And when I said phase issues, I didn't mean from mic placement. A lot of people say you have to reverse the polarity to get the sound your want. If you haven't tried it, you may want to check it out, can't hurt. Besides, 200hz is rarely a desirable freq. to boost in your kick
Cool man! I also use both a D112 and a 15" subkick. In stead of placing both of the mic in front of the head, I placed the D112 inside to increase the punch.
Jesse Gimbel Well, I installed it quite different. Like I said, the D112 stimulates the high frequencies which makes it sound more defined in a mix. I can send you some samples if you like. Natural and EQ'd samples of course, so you can here what you can do afterward.
Matt, I'm not quite following how you incorporated the "pencil condensor" into the subkick. Any chance you can explain, maybe send a pic? The subkick was amazing, but having 2 mics on stage was a bit of a pain. Thanks!
I'd say no smaller than 8". I used a 6" (which was a crappy car speaker, at that), and you can see how many people mistakenly think there's a phase issue, when it's really because it's boosting mids in a weird spot and isn't getting a ton of low end. I'd think 8-12" would be ideal.
@Hemail Haha thanks! At 23 I'm not as "kiddo" aged as I could be. But I spent the time that most people I know were doing drugs getting into guitar, drums, and recording, among other things!
Do you need a pre-amp for this? Or can you plug it straight into the computer with the right cord? Also I guess what I mean is does it use phantom power?
So I have an old practice amp that I'm thinking of trying this on, do you think it would be a poor choice to leave the speaker it in the actual amp cabinet for mounting?
Absolutely not! A lot of people have traditionally used NS10s (monitors), one of the most annoying things about using a subkick is finding a good way to mount it, so leaving it in the cabinet would solve that problem, as long as the amp has a big enough speaker.
After years of improvising sub-kicks, I have come to the conclusion that it's not as much the size of the speaker as the speakers intended use...the speaker suspension tension and the weight of the element. I've had great results with 6.5" speakers that have a loose suspension. Gently tap the speaker, if you hear a clear tone, that's not ideal (unless it's really low, and/or the same frequency as your kick). Also mounting the speaker in a tube can "tune" it to different frequencies. Experiment!
Your preference to have no sound hole? It may help your sound of your kick. It sounds very classic, like an old jazz kick. If that's what you're going for, awesome, but maybe the subkick will get more out of having a sound hole and so would your AKG. Just my opinion anyway. Will have to test it at home. :)
Allen Toler I'm sure it does. Changing the impedance on a preamp changes both the volume and the frequency curve when using a mic, and I believe it should be the same with a subkick speaker.
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That's definitely the better way to do it that I've seen folks do. Enjoy it!
Awesome idea. It does work people. I put my speaker in an old 8" firecracker drum shell I had laying around. Just a tip though. Put your D112 inside the bass drum about 6 inches away from the beater, then mix the two mics. The internal mic gives you tons of attack that mixes really nice with the big warm sound of the subkick. ;)
@barkerfan182 With certain kick drums, certain songs, certain genres, certain rooms, you're absolutely right.
JUST MADE One today, and based it off your video, but we mounted ares in a tom and had the male xlr on the drum just like yamahas, so now we just plug are xlr in the drum, and we mounted are old condenser pencil mic inside the subkick and wired a small xlr next to the other one on the outside like we drilled holes to mount the cables internaly, so now we have an all in one system, we just got done testing it out, it adds so much low end, and it only picks up the bass kick. THANKS FOR THE IDEA!!
@HipCovers All mics need preamps, not just ones that need phantom power. The point of a preamp is to amplify the signal coming from the mic. When you're doing something like plugging straight into the computer it's got enough gain to work as a preamp, though it's not going to sound terribly great. I'd never plug a drum mic straight into the computer though, you're dealing with high SPLs anyway, not to mention subkicks generally have a pretty high output.
Cool video, and thanks for the tips n' tricks. I like your playing! Have you tried switching the phase on one either the akg or sub?
@xalevedi It's a Pearl VBX Birch kit with clear Emperors on it. I've got a Drum Dial but I don't use it, I just do the standard method, loosening everything, tightening everything til it's finger tight, then giving equal turns to each lug until it's the pitch I want it.
WOW your floor tom sounds GREAT!
@guitarnick914 nope, just the normal gunmetal kind of color, guess the lights make it look brighter. amazing microphone, my personal favorite!
@Irish614 I don't use an outboard mixer, I use a Firestudio Tube (I've got a Firestudio Project as well). I do have a console that's not set up yet, but with that I'll go out of each channel onto each channel of the Firestudio. Yeah I've heard great things about the D6. A subkick is definitely not a necessary thing for every kick sound, and it can even be redundant with mics like the D112. But it's really great if you use a mic that's got great high end (an SDC/LDC maybe) to supplement that.
@543diditwork Not phase issues, it's just not that big of a speaker so it's kind of adding redundant frequencies around 200hz. If it was phase issues then when the mics were together you'd only really hear the top end. Use a bigger speaker for lower frequencies than the D112. That mic picks up pretty low anyway, a subkick is going to be more useful when used with a mic that doesn't pick up as low, like an SDC or SM57 or the like.
Hey really good video, very clear and concise. I'm definitely going to give this a try, and i'll make up a little cabbinet out of MDF to house it.
i have 2 Questions, i have an old infinity 10" subwoofer that needs a job, do you think this would be suitable as a subkick, also is this just a standard XLR mic lead you used?
@cj691 They very well might. Thanks though! I think that the fact that the speaker is relatively small for a subkick makes it pick up a lot of 200hz, which when boosted (from being combined with the D112) kind of has a similar, not terribly pleasant muddy sound, which is a kind of sound that's also easy to get accidentally when things are out of phase. I checked phase, everything was set here. I rarely need a subkick, but next time I'd definitely use a bigger speaker for mine.
@eRealist This has been covered. The phase is correct - I flipped the phase, moved the mics until they cancel the most, and then flipped it back. There are many things you're not taking into account, one being that this is only an 8" speaker, which is boxy anyway in a way that out of phase sounds can be boxy. On top of that you have what RUclips's compression is doing to the sound. Also the speaker is aligned with the capsule, not the very front tip of the grill. Leave it alone.
@aoeria Yes I have, I'm a more than competent engineer! This subkick is just on the small size and tends to emphasize the 100-200Hz area that is generally where things start poking out also when they're out of phase. Phase issues often make things sound boxy, and this happens to just have too much of those boxy frequencies, but it's not because of phase. Next time I'll be going for something bigger than this one was, I don't use it often because of this!
Great video. Did i hear a bit of In Bloom right at the end? And also would you happen to know if a DIY subkick mic could be used on a bass amp, or on a guitar amp to emphasize low frequencies?
Nice sound man, what type of mixer are you using to record? I have a crappy Alesis that can only record 2 channels so I am stuck not being able to eq each mic individually. I use the Audix D6 on my kick and absolutely love the thing, with that mic there is no need for any sub kick mics.
@xalevedi Honestly, I'm not sure. It seems to me like the kick port kind of has a different purpose than a subkick. While both seem to intend to improve bass response, the kick port seems to be more about moving more air in the room, while the subkick is intended to pick up very low frequencies that are at the lower end of what humans can hear. I don't have any experience with the kick port, and I haven't yet seem proof that it's not a "snake oil" product, but that doesn't mean it is!
thanks for putting all these videos up!
@uryeluryel It's a Zildian 22" A Custom medium ride. There's a crash that's in the frame while I'm playing the ride, but you can see the crash moves when I hit it, but not when you're hearing the ride.
I'll bet if you look really close at the white board the terminals are on, they will have a '+' and '-' pressed into it. Anyway, Nice sound; I cant tell if I just like the AKG or both together. During the first part it sounded like the subkick was out of phase but I really can't tell with just my Sennheiser HD280 cans. Other parts into the video sounded great with both, though.
@jacoboscar79 Thanks! Absolutely, it would actually work significantly better than what I used here. I think most people use 10" speakers. I wouldn't recommend using a 6" speaker like I used, it doesn't give great response in the sub lows that are desired from a subkick.
Good luck with it! I definitely don't mind having this low end for recording but I've never felt confined without sub stuff for live/PA.
@spikeyty That's definitely the easiest way to mount the subkick, just having it in the cabinet. People have used NS10 monitors this way for years. Good luck!
@Calcard94 I'm def. a big believer in cutting excess low end, often a lot more than someone would expect to. For bass guitar I could agree with saying to cut below 50hz since you're not really perceiving notes that low as much as just feeling low end. So I'd cut that off there, but that leaves a nice hole in the frequencies where the kick "oomph" can sit, without stepping on the bass guitar. But I'd only really use it in music that needs really strong low end like R&B, reggae, maybe metal.
@jakamake 10" might be too big, in that it could pick up only low-end that is too low to hear. It might be fine though, I'd give it a try. Mine is 6" and I wish it were 8" because it picks up more low-mids than I want. If I had a spare 10" speaker I'd try it in a heartbeat!
@NonSilentKiller Hahahaha great comment! And thanks for the compliment/you're welcome for the instructions!
I'm sure it does make a difference as the impedance of a microphone or preamp input does affect the sound, but I would imagine since it's for a sound that's not exactly high fidelity it might not be something people worry about too much. NS10 monitors that have been traditionally used for subkicks are 8Ω, so maybe that'd be a good start, but I didn't worry about it.
@mrstudes Thanks! Very cool, I wouldn't expect a 15" speaker to give mostly frequencies too low to be usable. Nice. Yeah a DI is a good idea. Also with a lot of speakers a pad is necessary to not overload the pre.
@ianbhtube The infinity sounds perfect. A speaker made to reproduce sub frequencies will definitely pick them up well. 10" is a great size for that. And yep, it's just a normal XLR mic lead, just instead of the female XLR it's connected to the speaker. An MDF cabinet sounds like it could work nicely, I'd love to see some pictures or a video of that!
@ilike600baud The particular speaker/size would have to do with this. Some people use up to 15" speakers, those will be much deeper than the D112.
Thanks. Not quite anything from In Bloom here, though I do love In Bloom! I think a subkick should work on a bass amp too, and maybe guitar. It's possible that the subkick works well solely because of the amount of air/SPL hitting the speaker in the subkick and so a bass wouldn't move it, but it's definitely worth a try. It might work but be a bit lower of an output, which wouldn't be a bad thing. If you give it a try let me know what you find, I'd be curious!
@jessegimbel I never said your mic's were out of phase, I said that a lot of people said that they didn't get a good sound until they reversed the phase. I have no idea why that is, but it wouldn't hurt to try. Perhaps they were double micing at different distances, who knows. What I read seemed to be concerning the construction of them as it said reverse the polarity of the wires going to the speaker. Unfortunately I can't post a link to give an example...
@blueredfred2 A normal XLR cable does have three wires. You want to join the negative and the ground, so you either solder both the negative and ground to the sleeve of the 1/4" plug, or just put a little jumper wire between negative and ground (generally pins 1 and 3) in the XLR. If you Google "XLR to 1/4" Mono Plug" there's a great little diagram on MediaCollege, it won't allow me to post the link here.
@Bemmel5566 What is "that" that you're referring to that isn't sub? You should clarify what you're trying to pick on here. Yes, 100hz isn't what I'd consider "sub" low, but I never said anything about using a subkick to get 100hz-area lows. If you're having trouble hearing sub lows from this video, it's probably due to poor listening conditions, or RUclips's processing of audio. Yes this subkick picks up around 100hz, but also lower. Bigger speakers will also pick up lower, I'd recommend 8-10".
@xalevedi Do you mean a recording gig or live gig? For live sound I think they'd have a pretty different effect on the sound. I'd love to hear what you thought of a before and after with the kick port
Nice job, if I had some drums I'd make one.
So easy to do!
@moenmusician New camera! I'm using a Nikon D90 now instead of the isight camera built into my laptop! I'll have some music videos up here when my new album is finished that I shot with it too. Thanks for the compliments, keep watching! More videos coming very soon.
@543diditwork Phase trouble is caused by mic placement - one sound hitting two mics at slightly different times. When two mics are close like in this, they're not going to be 180 deg. out of phase (when flipping the phase would fix it). But in my demo they're in phase. And like I said, it's because of the speaker I used that there's a boost at 200hz. It says in the video I used a 6" speaker - I'd recommend bigger. And this is just a demo, yes 200hz isn't too useful for kick in a mix.
@pabloAXMO I'm not sure what you're asking..if you're looking for how an actual speaker puts out sound, you'd probably be best looking it up on something that can explain the sciences accurately. If you're asking how to make the subkick, it's all in the video, I don't know how to explain it any better. As far as how it functions, the sound from the kick drum pushes the speaker back which transfers energy back through the cord to what you have it plugged into.
Sounds like the two mics on your kick are not quite in phase. When they are combined their is a lot less low end. Everything else on your kit sounds great though.
@jessegimbel Then maybe its youtube or something, or, as you said, the frequency of the subkick boosts at 200hz. What size speaker are you using? From everything I read 6-8" is about ideal and will boost around 50hz. And when I said phase issues, I didn't mean from mic placement. A lot of people say you have to reverse the polarity to get the sound your want. If you haven't tried it, you may want to check it out, can't hurt. Besides, 200hz is rarely a desirable freq. to boost in your kick
Hey dude nice job, what kind of ride is that?, is that a crash/ride Sabian?
I sounds like you have phase issues. The sub kick should add low end, but I definitely hear the D112 as sounding fuller and lower.
Cool man! I also use both a D112 and a 15" subkick. In stead of placing both of the mic in front of the head, I placed the D112 inside to increase the punch.
Jeffrey Middelveld Sounds good! That 15" probably does a way better job of getting subs than the puny speaker in my video.
Jesse Gimbel Well, I installed it quite different. Like I said, the D112 stimulates the high frequencies which makes it sound more defined in a mix. I can send you some samples if you like. Natural and EQ'd samples of course, so you can here what you can do afterward.
Matt, I'm not quite following how you incorporated the "pencil condensor" into the subkick. Any chance you can explain, maybe send a pic? The subkick was amazing, but having 2 mics on stage was a bit of a pain. Thanks!
I'd say no smaller than 8". I used a 6" (which was a crappy car speaker, at that), and you can see how many people mistakenly think there's a phase issue, when it's really because it's boosting mids in a weird spot and isn't getting a ton of low end. I'd think 8-12" would be ideal.
@Hemail Haha thanks! At 23 I'm not as "kiddo" aged as I could be. But I spent the time that most people I know were doing drugs getting into guitar, drums, and recording, among other things!
@jessegimbel I agree with both. The D112 sounds deeper than the subkick.
@skangmox You're so observant! Glad this video was helpful to you.
Do you need a pre-amp for this? Or can you plug it straight into the computer with the right cord? Also I guess what I mean is does it use phantom power?
So I have an old practice amp that I'm thinking of trying this on, do you think it would be a poor choice to leave the speaker it in the actual amp cabinet for mounting?
you have a good sound...i like your playing also...
Absolutely not! A lot of people have traditionally used NS10s (monitors), one of the most annoying things about using a subkick is finding a good way to mount it, so leaving it in the cabinet would solve that problem, as long as the amp has a big enough speaker.
Does it make a difference how many Ohms a subwoofer has? What number of Ohms would you recommend? Thanks for the upload, by the way.
Would this work fine if you wired the speaker to a male 1/4 inch plug instead of xlr?
After years of improvising sub-kicks, I have come to the conclusion that it's not as much the size of the speaker as the speakers intended use...the speaker suspension tension and the weight of the element.
I've had great results with 6.5" speakers that have a loose suspension. Gently tap the speaker, if you hear a clear tone, that's not ideal (unless it's really low, and/or the same frequency as your kick).
Also mounting the speaker in a tube can "tune" it to different frequencies. Experiment!
Hey Jesse...great videos man!
What did you do with the ground wire? I can't really tell but it looks like you split it and soldered to both + & - terminals on the speaker.
@MultiTechnodrome I use a Nikon D90.
Why have a sub-kick? In my experience, anything under around 50hz is just mud and takes away the clarity from the drum, is this not true?
Your preference to have no sound hole? It may help your sound of your kick. It sounds very classic, like an old jazz kick. If that's what you're going for, awesome, but maybe the subkick will get more out of having a sound hole and so would your AKG. Just my opinion anyway. Will have to test it at home. :)
I wonder how it would sound if u use a bigger speaker like a 10"?
Nope! In fact many people use an inline pad or the pad on their preamp because the output from a subkick can be very hot.
@forkv Absolutely! I meant to mention this in the video but missed it, oops!
Hey! I made one (6,5" speaker 8ohms) but when i hit the kick hard the mic clips but on the mixer there isn't a lot coming in
rite on...rite on...thanks man...very cool..!
What do you tink the minimum size speaker it should be?
hi! i've a question about this, how the speaker works? thanks!
Great information, thanks!
@blueredfred2 Not a problem!
@eRealist It keeps me up at night.
so you need phantom for it to work?
i like it. a little too much mid-range for me, but i can see the applications.
is that a silver shure sm7b???
The ground is only connected at the XLR side. Check out the link in the description, it explains far better than I do!
what kind of camera did you use?
Does the impedance of the speaker change anything like sensitivity?
Allen Toler I'm sure it does. Changing the impedance on a preamp changes both the volume and the frequency curve when using a mic, and I believe it should be the same with a subkick speaker.
Just to answer your questions: Yes and Yes.
thanks! now we just gotta find some cheap 18inch subs to add to our pa!! lol,
''excellent''
@jpmetz Champ.
The phase kills me, use the 3:1 rule. Or go 1:1.
D112 alone is the best
@MegDellaa Don't encourage her.
uh you got something on your lip
FIRST
That hair screams.