Linus Bayard i agree actually and you may be on to something,as in a way technology might actually be going backwards everytime the Empire is dealt a major setback,and as certain leaders focus on utilising super weapons instead of large numbers of powerful uniform ships
Patrick Gunnells umm.... how is technology going backwords if the Empire simply chooses to build super weapons instead of a couple dozen fleets? Technology is actually progressing is star wars, take the Resurgent for example, its the pinnacle of SD design so far, with an abusive size of an armament that is powered by kyber crystals, multiplying the damage out put. Not to mention hyperspace tracking (a major plot point) which was considered impossible up to that point. Ties now have shields and what not. These are just canon examples.
It wasn't considered impossible up to that point......they jsut wanted you to think that. Episode 4 had the millinium falcon tracked when they left the death star. Boba fett also tracked them in episode 5. Hell the movie has finn saying " That's impossible" then later have him saying he worked in that very room -_- don't take anything TLJ set up as truth, because it was a terrible movie, as well as a terrible star wars movie. Which can't have consistent continuity with itself much less the rest of star wars. Please never reference anything from TLJ as star wars lore. It broke everything and fixed nothing. Just added on more questions and makes the audience writers to explain the glaring plot holes and inconsistencies.
"Hmm... we were supplied with an army that features troopers with mandalorian training, genes and armor, the most notorious non-force sensitive jedi killers. The ships we got with them also have a clear classic sith design. LEt'S JuSt sTep iNtO This obVIouS tRAp, aNd AcCepT tHis arMy wITh nO suSpiCioNs wHaT sO evEr" -The jedi order at the start of the clone wars
@@darthbane2669 well they did make there main HQ on top of a sith temple that leaked dark energy and thought it would be a good idea to raise kid's there :P
luckly for the rebels, the dreadnought used in the opening of the last jedi was the Mandator IV-B model, which was made of paper mache, and frozen lighter fluid, in order to cut back on costs.
@@WhatEvenIsAGoodName , I guess they are supposed to be supported by Tie Fighters, which they didn't launch immediately after jumping in......for some reason.
@@garysmith3037 Oh no don't forget that they launched like 4 TIEs to fight Poe. And then another 12 to stop the bombers. Good job, First Order. You did gud.
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Snokes Supremacy should return in Episode 9. If it's that long it should still be operational even with the 1/5th of it blown off. Just have them repair and seal off the bit that is exposed to space and have it obvious that that bit was destroyed by the rebel cruiser. It's getting ridiculous that they keep making these super weapons and they get destroyed in one strike, I wanna see one of these big weapons actually survive to have another battle in the next movie.
I am more of a fan of the Venator Class myself. With a few tweaks like swapping out the weak point defense lasers for heavy turbo blasters it would be a bad ass capital ship.
Honestly, the Venator looks soo fucking sexy. Amazing ship from the Clone Wars. Sad we’re probably never going to see it again besides the new clone wars season and prequels.
Ahh disney wars, where you can retcon everything in a few seconds. we don't need x-wings, y-wings, whatever wings, just a purple haired lady in one hyperspace capable ship, to destroy the entire imperial fleet.
I always liked the Venator, having most experience with the clone wars series, and really disappointed that it got Tarkined, don’t get me started on the idiocy of that one.
People fawn over legends and ignore utterly retarded shit like *Sith Lords wiping out entire fleets by using the force to control solar flares* or Starkiller bringing down an ISD (controlling the ship's direction as it crashes in the Novel) in the Force Unleashed. The Force powers we see in Last Jedi are rather tame in comparison. Infact a lot of the people bitching about the movie just because of force bullshit probably bitched about Unleashed at some point. So they're massive hypocrites if they don't acknowledge legends has equally stupid shit. Or bitching because they want to be spoon fed all relevant info instead of going out and looking up shit that's not relevant to the plot. I can guarantee you if Empire was released today people would be bitching about the Vader-Anakin reveal or screaming 'Why the fuck can Leia hear Luke in the force what the fuck!?!'
well provided they don't put their guns in stupid places likes on the venetor and imperial class those could effectively fire only foward and above otherwise they where shooting them selves . the sloped armor innonly and advantage if you are approaching from the slice which can be garantied if you have somehing like ground forcing otherwise it just make for a huge silouette to hit. the cis designes where generaly a lot better. a tubular design is better in 3d space.
Not very effective in space. I get that you guys are imagining all battles are going to be facing forward and upright toward each other, but this is not the ocean boys and girls. This is space. A cunning captain will blow right out of hyperspace above your amazingly wide Star Destroyer and rain hell down upon a completely exposed ship.
The Eclipse Super Star Destroyer could easily be modified to fire anywhere within a frontal cone, by adding a device at the front that directs the beam.(Deflector/Reflector/Dish).
And removes any justification for Death Stars if you and just hijack a freighter like the one Han and Chewie had in TFA and set the auto pilot to FTL ram the ship into the Death Star. Or why not build FTL missiles a bit smaller than a starfighter to destroy captial ships, after all if you can fit a hyperdrive on an X-wing, why not? That First Order Fleet would have been destroyed with less than 20 such missiles, the Imperial Fleet at Endor (including the Death Star 2) could have been thoroughly smashed with 40 or 50 depending on how much of a beating the Death Star could take.
jime6688 Keep in mind technology has probably progressed since Return of the Jedi, and it was probably very risky and not worth trying even if it was possible before hand. The resistance had no where to go, were on the verge of destruction, and had no other options. It also had to probably be timed by a skilled and experienced pilot, or a specialized droid, as you could jump too late or too early. So why would you waste a perfectly good pilot or an expensive droid and a ship just for the chance of a near light speed destruction?
jime6688 lightspeed is likely very hard though,it most likely has to be perfectly timed as when you enter lightspeed you enter another dimension and must exit it at the right time.
It's so fucking stupid, ur travelling in hyperspace so she wouldn't even interact with the first order ships at lightspeed. The last jedi was directed by a 5 year old.
I'd assume autopilot would not be able to do it well and no one was asking anyone to suicide at that point yet. as for hyperdrive torpedoes the only logical explanation to why not [aside from "hurr durr plot holes"] would be the cost of building hyperdrives.
I'm very partial to the Executor class of Star Destroyers, but my favorite right now is Supremecy class. I mean come on! 60 km wide! (37 miles) the ship even featured small cities on the opposing opposing sides of the command center! Fingers crossed they don't make another Death Star!
Kinda. One time in Legends, 3 star destroyers came out of hyperspace (still going light speed) smashed into an Executor Super Star Destroyer, but they just exploded when they hit the shields of the ship and the Super Star Destroyer was unharmed. All what happened is the Super Star Destroyer's shields took some damage.
Palps did nothin wrong Anakin rammed a venator star destroyer into a droid control ship in the battle of Ryloth. And commander Sato rammed his rebel carrier into an interdictor cruiser during the battle of Atollon. They weren’t done with hyperspace however.
Keadin Mode Indeed. My first question after watching that scene was, why didn't any faction in SW history ever create Hyper space missiles. Like no need for suicide ships when you can fit missiles with hyperdrive. This scene was spectacular especially for common movie goers but for a SW fan that likes going deep in the lore it doesn't make sense, it is immersion breaking the more you think about it and it just shouldn't be there.
Hyper drive is being used for more than 20000 years now and was created even before. Only now a purple hair lady came up with the idea. No one else before came up with the idea that the technology could be used this way or to come up with some countermeasures if someone ever used it this way. That's doesn't make sense.
What's kind of interesting is that first Mandalorian"star destroyer" also bears a resemblance to some later Separatists and Rebel (Mon Calamari) ships.
My personal favorites are the Venator and the Acclamator. Both capable of planetary landings which is a must for me. Since I believe there was a MK II of them I took that to have a MK III version of them.
The wedge shape on the Harrower is like the Millennium Falcon and the Falcon wedge is used for pushing against cargo containers . So by this logic can you imagine the size of the cargo container that the Harrower must push. Makes sense when you look at all the massive amounts of equipment and supplies of the Empire.
Big Poppa most of them(Imperial ones anyway) were made in the Kuat shipyards, a massive orbital construction ring above the planet of the same name. Think of a Halo ring that builds ships
You could've spent the entire length of this video talking about Imperial Star Destroyer variants. Saying the glorious Empire was a golden age for wedge shape designs is an understatement
My preferences are for the Venator Class with its rapid deploy hangar and the Acclamator Assault Ship. Despite what you said about it, this thing was a beast. Heavy firepower (12 Quad Turbolaser Turrets, 24 Point Defense Cannons, and 4 Torpedo Launchers), Neutronium Impregnated Armor, 16k Clone Trooper Capacity along with a ludicrous amount of support craft like AT-TEs, Bikes, 66 LATT/i and 14 LATT/c transports, and a ridiculously fast Class 0.6 Hyperdrive (or 0.75 depending on your source). The ship also had a range of 250,000 LY meaning it could transport troops from Coruscant to the Outer Rim and return home with fuel to spare. To quote Han, she doesn't look like much but she's got it where it counts.
Imperial Class was is and always will be my favorite. That Venator class is very nice also. But due to nostalgia I guess I have to choose the Imperial Class. Its was the first thing that blew me away as a kid when introduced to New Hope.
Call me old-fashioned but I'd plant my flag on a good old Imperial I. Sure, most newer ships of the line can run you down and blow you to pieces with overwhelming firepower. But they're going to have to find you first and you've got enough concussion missiles, fighters and ground forces to take three systems at once and _really_ make them regret ditching those point defense lasers at the same time.
naruto naruto the reason the Death Star was destroyed was because of the turbo lasers not being made for small x wing size ships they were made for shooting down capital ships
I agree, the harrower is really good. I mean, look around the bridge area. Look at how many turbo laser batteries it has. An updated hanger, engines, and shield, some launch tubes for missiles, and a point defence system, and it could easily takeout an imperial-1. Not to mention you could replace the front hangers with a massive ion canon or something.
Well the harrower does share a similar structure to the gladiator and in the old canon would be an influence. The harrower was around 800 meters in length so pretty close.
I prefer Venator looks out of all other star destroyers, and armaments of the Imperial star destroyer. The reason they dont arm Venator with heavy armament is that it'll be too OP in clone wars lol (there's always a way to fit in bigger power source so it wont be a prob)
Badger But for the Clone Wars, The Venator was very heavily armed. I believe in the holocron heist arc of SWTCW, a single Venator took down 3 or 4 Separatist cruisers.
My favorites are the venator class and the resurgence class ships. The venator has enough star-fighters to screen enemy fighters, and the resurgence has pretty good point defense.
I agree on the Harrower class dreadnought. While it may have seemed pathetically under-powered by the later ships of the successive eras, It was still a wicked cool ship!
All this and not a force field / shield to be found anywhere... Captain Picard: "Data, beam a photon torpedo onto the bridge of that overly large cheese wedge."
What about the Centorion-class Battlecruiser? AKA the infamous Ravager. They were built a millennia after the Harrower-class dreadnought and were used during the Mandalorian Wars (3960 BBY). They have an awkward close resemblance to the imperial star-destroyer and I think it's worth mentioning.
The death star: Is the strongest weapon in the universe Also the death star: Has a single huge weak spot that the enemy can exploit and blow it up easily
Marie BCFHS the empire did not have the plans to fix it so they never knew about it except for the stupid design that let the Death Star get blown up so easily
Imperial I Class is my favorite by far, with the Executor being my 2nd favorite. I was so excited to see a ship used as a battering ram, and in Trek and Wars always said why not just fly something at warp into such and such super weapon. Borg Cube rammed by an old Excelsior at Warp 9 probably have the same effect as what we saw in The Last Jedi.
I think you flipped the docking arrangement for the Supremacy- 6 EXTERNAL, 2 internal. The external ones go on the docking spots on the back of the wings- 3 on each side- making 6.
I think one of my favorite scenes in all of star wars is the end of rogue one after they get the plans and they're all happy and the music is playing and you think they're just gonna get away with it and then Darth Vaders star destroyer comes out of hyper space, slamming into the rebel ships and tearing through them, leading to the amazing scene of vader just cutting down the rebels himself
I hate the whole "light speed kamikaze" BS that they pulled in The Last Jedi, the rebels could literally just use a bunch of tiny ships controlled by computers to fly into any and every large First Order ship and wipe out all of their best weapons in no time lol. If it was a thing that could actually be done, they could have light speed kamikazed a cruiser into the core of the death star and called it a day, or light speed kamikaze one X-Wing into every star destroyer lol. BEST WEAPON EVER lol... ugh.
To be honest the only reason that tactic worked was that Raddus is an idiot! Any reasonably competent Imperial officer would have opened fire with everything he had as the cruiser turned round as a ram is a likely possability!
He is saying that having a hyperdrive based weapon would be THE answer to any and all capital-ship size fleets. A torpedo with a hyperdrive system could cut through an ISD like butter if what we saw in the last jedi is the case. Anything larger than perhaps a nebulon B cruiser would be easy prey for such a weapon.
This strategy wasn't used before because the rebellion/resistance didn't have that many ships, unlike the empire/first order. Using this strategy would cause the rebellion/resistance to quickly run out of resources. Anyways, many imperial ships had shields, so x-wings couldn't do as much damage to them as the resistance ship in TLJ did to Snoke's ship.
Another excellent video. Being Stuck inside due to the stay at home order, I've been rewatching all the videos on Eckharts Ladder channel. I love his presentation style. A perfect ratio of facts to story. The blend of info and entertainment make learning about Star Wars more enjoyable than watching one of the new Disney star wars movies (that's a burn on Disney). Why oh why couldn't my old high school teachers present their subjects like this? I would have been an exceptional C+/B- student (instead of graduating with a solid D. That's a joke cuz I was teased over my large bra size). @AskEck Keep these videos coming - you are the light at the end of my tunnel (of boredom) 😁😍🥰👍❤️
The tall purple-haired woman was “Admiral Holdo”. Now I’m thinking what she would look like in SW-TCW form. That would be something someone could idealize to create a Fan-Fiction story. 🙂
At the time the brother hood of darkness deployed the sith star destroyer “I dont have any images but i guess it was wedge shaped” Me: duh thats what we are talking about
I was just reading about these, I know it isn’t canon or even legends (I don’t think) but I’ve always thought the Imperium Super Star Destroyer was really cool. Just because of its sheer size.
I'd have to say I love the *Resurgent-class Battlecruiser/Star Destroyer* the most, in spite of my usual love for the classic Imperial I and II's of the Empire, and of course the Executor-class. I do think that for its day, the *Harrower-class* was utterly vital to the evolution of the Star Destroyer as we know it (in-universe) though in the real world obviously the real credit should go to the invention of the Imperial Star Destroyer (The Devastator) which debuted in 1977, also being the 2nd ever ship on-screen in Star Wars history (though the CR90 Corellian Corvette the Tantive IV was the very first ship of any kind seen in Star Wars, and the opening scrawl alluded to rebel ships attacking the Empire previously - from whence we get Rogue One's origins) The Harrower-class, pioneered by the likes of impressive *Grand Moff Odile Vaiken* thousands of years before, under the reign of the Sith Emperor Vitiate, was integral (in-universe) to the story of the Star Destroyer. This military genius laid down plans which he knew he wouldn't live to see completed, and made the Sith Empire's navy the ferocious power it was in those ancient times. Long after his death, the Sith Emperor's fleet was utterly overwhelming to the Old Republic, forcing them back and wiping out entire fleets which stood in their way. Odile Vaiken even died testing out a prototype Star Destroyer, on the bridge of a new model (presumably akin to an upgraded Harrower-class) while fighting alien factions in wild space, expanding the Sith Empire. A worthy way to go, for such a major figure in Star Destroyer development - dying testing the might of his designs, with even his loss most likely helping make his designs even better posthumously. Utter dedication to his cause. Even Emperor Palpatine reflected on the Harrower-class thousands of years after they were prominent, regarding them as important models to base the Imperial Navy on. The Kaminoans had already been inspired by the Old Republic and Sith Empire of the long-gone past, in their designs of the Clone Trooper Phase I uniforms and their commissions to Rothana Heavy Engineering for a dagger-shaped carrier/assault ship (the Acclamator-class) Republic and Imperial Star Destroyers aside, I just cannot overlook the potential of the Resurgent-class Star Destroyer as it is utterly imposing and for its size, far superior to any ship of its kind that came before. A single Resurgent-class (especially with its Kyber-enhanced weapon systems) would shred an entire squadron of Imperial II-class Star Destroyers, all on its own. I strongly believe that. It was designed to bully other capital ships into submission in a much more pointed and decisive way than even the Imperial Star Destroyer variants ever were. It was a deliberate, intentional and specific upgrade on those designs. Pound for pound, it is a far more advanced warship than even the Executor-class, and if it were the same size up-scaled...then the Executor-class would be as redundant in its size range as the Imperial-class was in its size range. It'd take a few Resurgent-class Star Destroyers to take down an Executor-class, I believe, but I have little confidence in the old Imperial Super Star Destroyer to survive such an assault. It might be able to use its full firepower to bludgeon one of the Resurgents to death with sheer weight of firepower, but that advantage wouldn't last long as the Resurgents overpowered the shields and targeted the bridge. If I could, I'd have a Grand Fleet of a minimum of *10,000 Resurgent-class* Star Destroyers. The Empire had 25,000 Imperial-class Star Destroyers and they still lost. But 10,000 Resurgent-class would do a better job at protecting a huge empire than 2.5 times as many older design vessels could. I'd say *1 Resurgent-class = 4 Imperial-class* in a straight up slogging match of ship-to-ship battle. Also, First Order pilots and superior fighters would stomp all over the older Imperial ones (though not without taking some losses themselves, don't get me wrong) Ideally, *30,000 Resurgent-class* would ensure almost total control of the galaxy. I would also prefer that there are at least 1000 Mandator IV-class Siege Dreadnoughts, and a range of other classes of First Order warships. There need to be thousands of frigates, corvettes, cruisers and heavier classes. We know the TIE Silencer prototype, ''The Silencer'' flown by Kylo Ren personally, was him test piloting a new model of interceptor fighter of devastating power and quality. Therefore, it'd make a lot of sense for the First Order to be bringing more and more designs into production, brand new and the very metalwork glowing hot fresh off the production line. We already know that the Mandator IV-class Siege Dreadnought was brand new and basically being trialled when we see it (the Fulminatrix) in Episode 8. I'm hoping to see an Executor-class size range Super Dreadnought, built for the First Order. Bigger than the Mandator IV-class, but smaller than the insanely massive Supremacy-class. If I remember rightly, the Eclipse is now canonical again, and *was* taken into the Unknown Regions long ago. Hopefully it is still out there somewhere, and perhaps even serving as a model for Kuat-Entralla and the First Order shipyards in the Unknown Regions, to produce an even more impressive ship. After all, Kyber crystals are utilised in the weapons systems of some of the Resurgent-class, such as the Finalizer. And, if Eclipse is indeed still out there, and maybe even upgraded by the First Order the same way they upgraded a lot of Imperial Era tech surplus, then, that thing demonstrates a super-laser outright to begin with. It'd make sense for the First Order to be building mobile super-laser armed Super Dreadnoughts. When complimented by a large fleet of Resurgent-class Star Destroyers, and with several other ship classes to fill out a fleet in any given situation, including Mandator IV-class Siege Dreadnoughts, then it would be a terrifying arrangement to try to take on. The Supremacy was a wasted opportunity, though. I'm not put off by its controversial size, so much as the way it was used in Episode 8. It was worthy of the First Order and in most situations would be a monstrosity. But lets just say that it was under-powered in some crucial aspects...
even if you had 100,000 ships; you could only send 1 ship to spend about 52 minutes in all billion star systems in your average galaxy. Control of a galaxy is a fantasy in star wars.
+uniquelydavid, Your primitive take on military strategy is clear; you assume that every single planetary system is equally challenging to control at any level. 100,000 ships would be more than enough to control the galaxy, as you clearly refer to 100,000 capital ships - as I mentioned, if you even noticed, I said that there were millions of other ships in many other classes besides the 25,000 ISD's. The Imperial Navy was staggering. The rebels should never have won, just by looking at the Imperial Fleet alone. I'll detail more on why you're basically wrong: 1. Like I say, the galaxy is full of primitive/lifeless/sub-hyperspeed technology capable worlds. While the exact proportion is clearly unknown, the fact remains that *to control the galaxy would only require dominance over the most advanced systems* within it. 2. Continuing on that theme; to control the galaxy would mean *ruling from fortress worlds and dominating key hyperspace lanes* as well as setting up interconnected outposts far and wide. If one Imperial stronghold can exert influence over hundreds of surrounding, less powerful systems, that is essentially enough. In the real world, the British Empire dominated the largest Empire in human history from outposts dominating vast swathes of ocean and land areas. In the ''British Lake'' of the Mediterranean Sea in the 19th century and 20th century, Britain dominated from four main bases; Gibraltar, Malta, Alexandria and Cyprus (Limassol) Britain also had Crete and other bases in the region, as well as a major asset in at the time (during the late 19th to mid 20th century) owning the Suez Canal. The Suez Canal can be compared to a hyperspace lane of sorts, because its construction was done to avoid having to sail all the way down the Atlantic Ocean, rounding southern Africa and sailing all the way up the Indian Ocean to wherever you wanted to go to. Taking a nifty shortcut from the Mediterranean to the Indian Ocean via the Gulf of Arabia, helped massively. This was and is the value of that sea lane. The Panama Canal is the Americana equivalent, which prevents the need for expensively sailing round South America to get to your destination, coming or going. Naturally, while still a major global power, hyperpower (the world's only ever) and giant Empire, Britain jealously guarded its rights and ownership of the Suez Canal. With its loss in the events of 1956, Britain's already collapsing Empire faded far quicker. The British artery binding their eastern and western possessions either side of Africa, through Africa, was severed and this made the task of maintaining their imperial bases in the Pacific and Indonesia region e.g Malaya/Malaysia extremely difficult (there were counterinsurgency wars in those regions subsequently, which Britain narrowly managed to get through though losing its dominant presence/air of power in the process itself) Moreover, British Hong Kong, was even further isolated and its fall to the vile hands of Communism became inevitable. Speaking of Hong Kong, British imperial control of Singapore and Hong Kong, and other well-developed outposts, ensured that for decades, Imperial and later Communist China, was kept in check to some extent. You don't need to rule the entire continent to win the war - just tough outposts which help winning naval supremacy. In the Star Wars galaxy, domination of key trade lanes and key systems/keystone systems, not to mention their forward bases on random worlds in their exploration of the galaxy, has been proven repeatedly in galactic history to be enough to rule. 3. It is true SW lore is very inconsistent/written by countless authors, with different takes on how it should be (and a lot of people piss me off in SW they write so much bullshit, just look at the new BS in The Last Jedi my word what a shit show that was) But that matters little - in the original trilogy, in A New Hope (''The Star Wars'', its original name before Lucas thought of making 6 films in choppy order) it was well established that the Empire was the dominant political force and military organisation. With the limited details back then, the Empire was always intended to be the boss in the SW galaxy, the big bad... So, it was *always narrative to the story that the Empire had dominance* and that this oppression was the mirror to the rebel movement trying to smash it. It was never intended to be anything other than that. 4. 1 Imperial-class Star Destroyer has the potential means to subdue an entire system. You underestimate the power of this class of ship. It has the firepower to glass entire continents in an hour long bombardment merely, and if a small fleet of these get together they can kill all life on a planet's surface effectively. They are devastating. This is part of why the Death Stars seem even more stupid to me - the Navy could achieve the levels of destruction with ease. Han Solo's ad lib line about how the Imperial Fleet wouldn't be able to blow up a planet and that it'd take more than half the firepower of the fleet is just wrong, hyperbolic at best. Clearly, if an entire starfleet of Star Destroyers (say, over 100 of them - or 100/25,000 or 0.4% of the number of Star Destroyers the Empire has) bombarded a planet for a few days non-stop I am sure it'd start to implode. It is nowhere near 50%/12,500 Star Destroyers. It was clearly a figure of speech from Han, but his fear and concern/disbelief in it, implies sloppy writing by Lucas (Lucas's writing was famously cringey and there are behind the scenes stories of how Mark, Harrison and Carrie all called Lucas out of lines they either hated or really didn't like/outright hated/wanted changed) There are interviews confirming this. So the line is inconsistent with how powerful Star Destroyers canonically are. So, 1 Star Destroyer (or, 1/25,000th of the Star Destroyers the Empire has/ 0.004% of the Imperial Star Destroyer totals) could dominate potentially hundreds of minor worlds and be a major threat to a more developed system. Of course, rebel tactics improved so much that lone Star Destroyers became relatively vulnerable to strikes against them, and the architectural shortcomings of ISD's on a tactical level - versus snub fighters and bombers especially, mastered by the rebels unfortunately for the Imperials - became increasingly devastating as a flaw which could be worked around. But that was only the rebels whose entire existence was predicated on their struggle against the Empire by any means at their disposal, going to desperate, self-sacrificing lengths to bring down the Empire. Most other factions/forces/independent groups in the galaxy, stood zero chance of effectively contending with the Imperial Navy. Even the Rebel Alliance took years and years to get good at taking out ISD's and imperial bases, and even then they took massive casualties to learn important lessons. For a long time, ISD's would dominate the rebels in battles and tear them to pieces. Only when we get to events in SW rebels and Rogue One, are rebels successful in taking out ISD's in open battles/sabotages. Now imagine you're some random planet with a small militia army with outdated equipment and not much contact with the outer galaxy at large - and then, an ISD fully manned by 47,000 crew, troopers and officers, aiming its guns at your capital city from orbit and demanding you surrender blasts out of hyperspace. Erm...yeah, I think you'd probably surrender and convert to the GE rather than be blown to mincemeat by an Orbital Bombardment/Delta Base Zero command order. Now imagine 100 of those ships with 4.7 million crew, troopers and officers, turn up. Now imagine 1,000 (or 1/25th of the Imperial ISD numbers) show up, with 47 million crew, troopers and officers. Are you seeing what I mean? 5. Yes, the Imperial forces were spread thinly - relatively - around the galaxy. And yes, the number of Imperial ships at both the Battle of Endor and even the Battle of Jakku seems stupidly small. However, there is a good reason for this. Well, two good reasons: i) the limitations of budget, production time, visual effects and film elements in the 1983 ROTJ film. ii) the story element that at the Battle of Endor, the Empire didn't want to attract too much attention by moving too many ISD's around to one corner of the galaxy. The 30 or so ISD's at Endor were dripping slowly into the rally point one by one, not drawing unwanted attention, to ensure secrecy. If 400 ISD's just blasted up the backside of the Rebel fleet out of hyperspace (as they so easily could have, I believe, and should have) then it'd be bye bye rebel fleet, bye bye Rebellion full stop) Imperials got nerfed so badly. But there is some logic in ''only'' 30 ISD's being present. 30 ISD's would normally be fucking terrifying but in those circumstances where so much was at stake, Palpatine should have brought more to the fight. But they were going to lose from the get go - the fucking film title is a clue ''Return Of The Jedi'' lol... Even with that strategic situation in mind, the Empire was still the dominant power for a year and 4 days after the Battle of Endor - until the bloody Battle of Jakku ended the Galactic Civil War. The Empire should never have lost the war in my view, they simply had too many forces to be beaten. They could have endured a dozen Battle of Jakku sized defeats - and it'd only take 3 or 4 of those kinds of defeats to bleed the Rebellion dry. Jakku cost both sides horrific losses and the Rebels were almost spent themselves, even in victory, losing so many hundreds of thousands of lives to win. Sure, the New Republic could then, while the ruling power, recruit millions/billions more units, but their anti-military policies which even turned against General Leia, meant they disbanded and banned vast armies, and this made them vulnerable when the First Order attacked them. Idiotic communistic rebels lol 6. You need to learn about the importance of naval strategy.
The final evolution; Let's make a 2.5x scale ISD. Let's stick a "death star" laser on the bottom so it can blow up planets as well. Then let's bury about 1000 of them so we can get wicked visuals when they are revealed. But we want to give that pesky resistance a sporting chance yes? Well let's make it so their shields don't work inside atmosphere, the navigation system (or pilots) can't tell which way UP is, and also remember that death star laser? Let's make it so hitting that with anything at all blows up the whole ship.
TY so much for the spoiler warning. Some of us super busy people haven’t found time to watch last Jedi yet and that sort of advice in s video is greatly appreciated
I saw the Executor destroyed in '83 and I'm STILL pissed over it. A-wing rage... What a garbage ending for such an iconic ship, even though it is obvious that the Eclipse and Supremacy would destroy the Executor in a straight fight. Still my personal favorite.
Sorry Obi Wan, The Ewoks were killed after the battle of Endor buy her some sort of virus, or catastrophic event. They're all gone, which is very disappointing because I think McDonald's would really prosper off of Ewok meat.
After watching The Last Jedi, the scene at 6:46 begs the question of what would have happened if the little ship that gets crushed when the Star Destroyer emerges lightspeed had decided to jump to lightspeed itself at that moment. Would it have cut a giant hole in the Star Destroyer like in The Last Jedi?
it probably doesnt work as well if it isnt a surprise. if you know that the enemy will try it, there are ways to counter it. plus you can only do it so many times before you start running out of ships or people. i suppose they could always try equipping a missile with hyperspace tech but that would make it extremely expensive to produce. you might as well build a ship around it for additional mass for the impact. not to mention im sure there would be drawbacks to launching a missile out of a tube on a ship at light speed.
because the fact you can ram shit in ftl renders the death star pointless. one striped down hyperdrive with a guidance system hitting a planet would outclass the energy of any super weapon in star wars if were using even slightly realistic physics. the rebelion should have been able to one shot the death star with a glancing blow from one striped down X wing. granted this is star wars and real world pyhiscs is pretty far removed but still.
They probably did, they just weren't fighting Hux who was a moron and got tunnel visioned. Keep in mind he had plenty of time to destroy the Raddus but chose not to. Any competent commander would have destroyed the Raddus when it started to move. Hux is only arround because Snoke thought he could beat the resistance through sheer fire power alone.
In regard to the Mandalorian/Jedi Civil War era, I'd say the Centurion class battlecruiser would be a better source for inspiration for the Imperial Star Destroyer line due to it actually looking like a precursor to Star Destroyers
For me, sometimes the simplest solution is the best. While perhaps not as flashy or specialized as its forebears or decedents, the classic Imperial I Star Destroyer is still my favorite. Distinct, imposing, a touch regal looking and carrying enough firepower, fighters, and troops to shred an entire fleet of lesser ships or slag a civilized world all on its own, the Imperial was as much a symbol as it was a machine of war. Just one showing up in system meant the Empire wasn't screwing around and though costly and not without its design flaws unless you were aboard a Mon Cal there was very little you could do against it a straight on fight. If you want to rule the galaxy give me 250,000 of those over a Death Star or Galaxy Gun or World Devastator any day.
Even if it was on it would take several seconds for the ship to de-accelerate. Holdo probably also deactivated the safety the prevents ships from jumping into large objects and through gravity wells
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The Harrower had a low bridge also the bridge is protected by point defence....that makes it the best ones
Gf: what’s your sprit animal
Me: the Mandalorian
Gf: sweats nervously
Generation
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You forgot the Centurion-class Battlecruiser and Nebula-class Star Destroyers
Ok
The slow evolution of the Dorito space triangle
Flying pizza of death!
doorstop of destruction
Wedges of Woe!
Triangles of Terror
Did anyone say "Dorito"?!
Is it just me or does technology seem to go in reverse in SW
Linus Bayard i agree actually and you may be on to something,as in a way technology might actually be going backwards everytime the Empire is dealt a major setback,and as certain leaders focus on utilising super weapons instead of large numbers of powerful uniform ships
Patrick Gunnells umm.... how is technology going backwords if the Empire simply chooses to build super weapons instead of a couple dozen fleets? Technology is actually progressing is star wars, take the Resurgent for example, its the pinnacle of SD design so far, with an abusive size of an armament that is powered by kyber crystals, multiplying the damage out put. Not to mention hyperspace tracking (a major plot point) which was considered impossible up to that point. Ties now have shields and what not. These are just canon examples.
It wasn't considered impossible up to that point......they jsut wanted you to think that. Episode 4 had the millinium falcon tracked when they left the death star. Boba fett also tracked them in episode 5. Hell the movie has finn saying " That's impossible" then later have him saying he worked in that very room -_- don't take anything TLJ set up as truth, because it was a terrible movie, as well as a terrible star wars movie. Which can't have consistent continuity with itself much less the rest of star wars. Please never reference anything from TLJ as star wars lore. It broke everything and fixed nothing. Just added on more questions and makes the audience writers to explain the glaring plot holes and inconsistencies.
DanRage47 talk about overreacting...
Captain Fordo
He's not overreacting, he's dead on
"Hmm... we were supplied with an army that features troopers with mandalorian training, genes and armor, the most notorious non-force sensitive jedi killers. The ships we got with them also have a clear classic sith design. LEt'S JuSt sTep iNtO This obVIouS tRAp, aNd AcCepT tHis arMy wITh nO suSpiCioNs wHaT sO evEr"
-The jedi order at the start of the clone wars
Jedi is made up of idiots.
@@darthbane2669 well they did make there main HQ on top of a sith temple that leaked dark energy and thought it would be a good idea to raise kid's there :P
Should have listened to Acbar
New meme proposal: Scumbag Sifo-Dyas
212th Attack Battalion.
luckly for the rebels, the dreadnought used in the opening of the last jedi was the Mandator IV-B model, which was made of paper mache, and frozen lighter fluid, in order to cut back on costs.
Honestly that ship is the biggest waste of resources ever. 26 point defense cannons over a 7km ship, with no turbolasers at all.
Apparently when big companies like Disney own everything in their proffesion, they dont need to make sense anymore.
@@WhatEvenIsAGoodName , I guess they are supposed to be supported by Tie Fighters, which they didn't launch immediately after jumping in......for some reason.
@@garysmith3037 Oh no don't forget that they launched like 4 TIEs to fight Poe. And then another 12 to stop the bombers. Good job, First Order. You did gud.
You mean exsplodim
“ It did have a weakness though and that was a purple haired lady traveling at the speed of light in a Mon Calamari cruiser.” 👌🏻
That was such a terrible decision
Jedi: A wedge star ship, Why does that sound familiar.
Palpatine: Don't worry.
Writers think the Jedi and the audience are dumb
demonic ginger Jedi: impossible the Sith are extinct.
Darth Mual: Heyy what about me?!
Jedi: no your not a Sith your night brother
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(Sorry I needed to do that, not meant to be insulting)
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That is awesome
Under rated comment.
I can only ever imagine this being how it happened now.
Completely under rated comment I love it
The effort is on point
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Snokes Supremacy should return in Episode 9. If it's that long it should still be operational even with the 1/5th of it blown off. Just have them repair and seal off the bit that is exposed to space and have it obvious that that bit was destroyed by the rebel cruiser.
It's getting ridiculous that they keep making these super weapons and they get destroyed in one strike, I wanna see one of these big weapons actually survive to have another battle in the next movie.
+Jongo Phett haha yea the larger it is the sooner it gets destroyed
I'm pretty sure it did survive.
They could reattach the wing that was blown of.. most of the ship seemed intact.
I would suspect Disney would want to sell new toys for Klylo Ren.
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I am more of a fan of the Venator Class myself. With a few tweaks like swapping out the weak point defense lasers for heavy turbo blasters it would be a bad ass capital ship.
If it did that, Hyena Bombers would have an easier time bombing them. Why do you think Star Destroyers always get raped by Y-Wings?
Honestly, the Venator looks soo fucking sexy. Amazing ship from the Clone Wars. Sad we’re probably never going to see it again besides the new clone wars season and prequels.
Then you basically have an ISD with a better fighter compliment...
I always felt like the Venator's total capacity was crazy because it replaced what SHOULD have been an "Or" with an "And."
The venator...The jar jar class, LOOK AT IT
I’m a fan of the Harrower, personally. Such a sleek looking ship, and so intimidating at the same time. I love it.
I just love the flying Pizza slices known as star destroyer
Me too.
I want to see some ISDs docked in a pizza circle formation.
SkyTech RTS that was in an episode of the Freemaker Adventures.
search up the Fondor Ship Yard then, closest i can think of
"A purple-haired woman travelling at the speed of light in a Mon Calamari cruiser..."
lol
lol that viscount tho...
Ahh disney wars, where you can retcon everything in a few seconds. we don't need x-wings, y-wings, whatever wings, just a purple haired lady in one hyperspace capable ship, to destroy the entire imperial fleet.
@@CookieManCookies in rotj a single xwing crashes into the Executor and destroys it. Not sure what your point is.
@@CookieManCookies since when is the First Order imperial?
Those big metal thingies have realy weird weaknesses
Obi-Wan Kenobi No high ground?
they didnt have the high ground,my master.
METAWL BAWKSES
they stood no chance against the trolly rebel scum.
GENERAL KENOBI
I always liked the Venator, having most experience with the clone wars series, and really disappointed that it got Tarkined, don’t get me started on the idiocy of that one.
Moral of the story. They are all increasingly cool, flying metal Doritos.
Wow what an epic joke you got there man. I hope someone laughs at it.
DanRage47
Hahaha triggered right wingers.😂
@@rjdiggs738 *_W H A T_*
@@rjdiggs738 am big confuse
TrickyKing you misspelled decreasingly
I like it when you combine legends and canon with the line "legend has it" because "there is always some truth in legends"
+ΔΗΜΟΣΘΕΝΗΣ ΜΠΑΛΑ exactly
true unlike what Disney would have you believe cuz they've been doing stuff other then kids stuff so well...
Robert Agu People are upset over Disney's retconns? Come on those 9 Palpy clones were a little ridiculous.
People fawn over legends and ignore utterly retarded shit like *Sith Lords wiping out entire fleets by using the force to control solar flares* or Starkiller bringing down an ISD (controlling the ship's direction as it crashes in the Novel) in the Force Unleashed. The Force powers we see in Last Jedi are rather tame in comparison.
Infact a lot of the people bitching about the movie just because of force bullshit probably bitched about Unleashed at some point. So they're massive hypocrites if they don't acknowledge legends has equally stupid shit.
Or bitching because they want to be spoon fed all relevant info instead of going out and looking up shit that's not relevant to the plot.
I can guarantee you if Empire was released today people would be bitching about the Vader-Anakin reveal or screaming 'Why the fuck can Leia hear Luke in the force what the fuck!?!'
These guys are good at using legends and canon
The triangle is simple but an effective design.
Hydrogen One indeed, plenty of space for engines, naturally sloped armor, all guns can potentially fire at the same target at once
well provided they don't put their guns in stupid places likes on the venetor and imperial class those could effectively fire only foward and above otherwise they where shooting them selves . the sloped armor innonly and advantage if you are approaching from the slice which can be garantied if you have somehing like ground forcing otherwise it just make for a huge silouette to hit. the cis designes where generaly a lot better. a tubular design is better in 3d space.
Also allows for unrestricted broadsiding if necessary. While still allowing all guns to fire forward.
Not very effective in space. I get that you guys are imagining all battles are going to be facing forward and upright toward each other, but this is not the ocean boys and girls. This is space.
A cunning captain will blow right out of hyperspace above your amazingly wide Star Destroyer and rain hell down upon a completely exposed ship.
Daniel Weseloh in star wars all your weapons and defenses are down in the time and a while after you jump out of hyper space.
The Gonk Droid is the best Star Destroyer out there.
You're dumb as fuck.
The mouse droid definitely has the edge over the gonk droid
The Killer Clown no, hes a genious
lol!
The Killer Clown That's purely idiotic.
Pit droids are the real masters of happy landings
You mean savior of an entire planet's worth of people.
The Venator Class "Jedi Cruiser" will always be my favorite. Growing up with the Clone Wars series solidified that in my head.
Harrower and Resurgent class star destroyers look the best.
Better designed.
Will we ever get ewok burgers
With a side of porg drumsticks.
Hello there.......
Obi-Wan Kenobi no, but the ewoks might make burgers of you
What about pulled Wookiee sandwiches?
The Pulled Wookiee was...well pulled for excessive hairiness. Apparently the hair grows internally also
The Eclipse Super Star Destroyer could easily be modified to fire anywhere within a frontal cone, by adding a device at the front that directs the beam.(Deflector/Reflector/Dish).
As cool as that was to see, it's aggravating because the weaponization of lightspeed really undermines most battles from the previous movies.
And removes any justification for Death Stars if you and just hijack a freighter like the one Han and Chewie had in TFA and set the auto pilot to FTL ram the ship into the Death Star. Or why not build FTL missiles a bit smaller than a starfighter to destroy captial ships, after all if you can fit a hyperdrive on an X-wing, why not? That First Order Fleet would have been destroyed with less than 20 such missiles, the Imperial Fleet at Endor (including the Death Star 2) could have been thoroughly smashed with 40 or 50 depending on how much of a beating the Death Star could take.
jime6688 Keep in mind technology has probably progressed since Return of the Jedi, and it was probably very risky and not worth trying even if it was possible before hand. The resistance had no where to go, were on the verge of destruction, and had no other options.
It also had to probably be timed by a skilled and experienced pilot, or a specialized droid, as you could jump too late or too early. So why would you waste a perfectly good pilot or an expensive droid and a ship just for the chance of a near light speed destruction?
jime6688 lightspeed is likely very hard though,it most likely has to be perfectly timed as when you enter lightspeed you enter another dimension and must exit it at the right time.
It's so fucking stupid, ur travelling in hyperspace so she wouldn't even interact with the first order ships at lightspeed. The last jedi was directed by a 5 year old.
I'd assume autopilot would not be able to do it well and no one was asking anyone to suicide at that point yet.
as for hyperdrive torpedoes the only logical explanation to why not [aside from "hurr durr plot holes"] would be the cost of building hyperdrives.
The whole "Humanity first" thing is gonna age real bad when aliens watch this video and write a post on why you're canceled
TheDarkishKnightro loser
Future mecha hitler will purge all aliens, then i will become a mecha nazi
Alien lover omg what kind of heresi is this??
@@Asdtable calm down stronheim
2005 revenge of the sith
2019 rise of skywalker
Its evolving just backwards
I'm very partial to the Executor class of Star Destroyers, but my favorite right now is Supremecy class. I mean come on! 60 km wide! (37 miles) the ship even featured small cities on the opposing opposing sides of the command center! Fingers crossed they don't make another Death Star!
Was the Purple lady's kamikaze method in TLJ ever used before in SW history? If not, can you theorise why even though I know the obvious answer.
Kinda. One time in Legends, 3 star destroyers came out of hyperspace (still going light speed) smashed into an Executor Super Star Destroyer, but they just exploded when they hit the shields of the ship and the Super Star Destroyer was unharmed. All what happened is the Super Star Destroyer's shields took some damage.
Palps did nothin wrong Anakin rammed a venator star destroyer into a droid control ship in the battle of Ryloth. And commander Sato rammed his rebel carrier into an interdictor cruiser during the battle of Atollon. They weren’t done with hyperspace however.
Palps did nothin wrong Star Wars history is non-canon by Disney.
Keadin Mode Indeed. My first question after watching that scene was, why didn't any faction in SW history ever create Hyper space missiles. Like no need for suicide ships when you can fit missiles with hyperdrive.
This scene was spectacular especially for common movie goers but for a SW fan that likes going deep in the lore it doesn't make sense, it is immersion breaking the more you think about it and it just shouldn't be there.
Hyper drive is being used for more than 20000 years now and was created even before. Only now a purple hair lady came up with the idea. No one else before came up with the idea that the technology could be used this way or to come up with some countermeasures if someone ever used it this way. That's doesn't make sense.
What's kind of interesting is that first Mandalorian"star destroyer" also bears a resemblance to some later Separatists and Rebel (Mon Calamari) ships.
My personal favorites are the Venator and the Acclamator. Both capable of planetary landings which is a must for me. Since I believe there was a MK II of them I took that to have a MK III version of them.
My favourite Star Destroyer is the Venator class. Those massive turrets, the 500m long hangar, the dual bridge and I love the blue lasers
The wedge shape on the Harrower is like the Millennium Falcon and the Falcon wedge is used for pushing against cargo containers . So by this logic can you imagine the size of the cargo container that the Harrower must push. Makes sense when you look at all the massive amounts of equipment and supplies of the Empire.
I would like to see the factories where these ships might be made, that would be an awesome sight
Big Poppa most of them(Imperial ones anyway) were made in the Kuat shipyards, a massive orbital construction ring above the planet of the same name. Think of a Halo ring that builds ships
In Star Wars Battlefront II You go to an Imperial Shipyard on Fondor.
chris pearson Kuat Drive Yards' shipyards also appeared in the 2015 Darth Vader comic series
You could've spent the entire length of this video talking about Imperial Star Destroyer variants. Saying the glorious Empire was a golden age for wedge shape designs is an understatement
Resurgence-class, hands down.
1500 turbolasers is all you need to know.
Eclipse has always been my favorite. The sunken front that resembles a Naval battleship's frontal hull, that just rocks.
The Resurgence...is so OP. Easily my favorite class of "standard" Star Destroyers. Excellent all around ship.
Don't like the Harrower's forward facing hanger?
Just replace it with a fleet killing cannon. (See SWTOR Sith Inquisitor storyline)
Or a sniper cannon, used to one shot ships traveling through hyper space...(see the Republic Trooper storyline in SWTOR).
Or a superlaser. (see Legends material on the Conqueror)
Well say that to it's successor the gladiator class cruiser.
DWatchRazgriz hohoho do i see a dawn of war profile pic ;-; *Dawn of war is best and its life*
Or a gigantic railgun to plow through a planet's surface and crack open the core
A purple haired woman traveling at light-speed is everyone man's weakness
Frogish holdo
Holdo was a rare example of a purple-haired woman who wasn’t fat.
and who actually looked good in purple hair
John Cunningham Why would dyed hair not be a thing in the future
Daycrist...They didn't do that though, because it would make sense!...Sorry.
My preferences are for the Venator Class with its rapid deploy hangar and the Acclamator Assault Ship. Despite what you said about it, this thing was a beast. Heavy firepower (12 Quad Turbolaser Turrets, 24 Point Defense Cannons, and 4 Torpedo Launchers), Neutronium Impregnated Armor, 16k Clone Trooper Capacity along with a ludicrous amount of support craft like AT-TEs, Bikes, 66 LATT/i and 14 LATT/c transports, and a ridiculously fast Class 0.6 Hyperdrive (or 0.75 depending on your source). The ship also had a range of 250,000 LY meaning it could transport troops from Coruscant to the Outer Rim and return home with fuel to spare. To quote Han, she doesn't look like much but she's got it where it counts.
Imperial Class was is and always will be my favorite. That Venator class is very nice also. But due to nostalgia I guess I have to choose the Imperial Class. Its was the first thing that blew me away as a kid when introduced to New Hope.
Humanity first? The God emperor approves of Generation Tech
Call me old-fashioned but I'd plant my flag on a good old Imperial I. Sure, most newer ships of the line can run you down and blow you to pieces with overwhelming firepower. But they're going to have to find you first and you've got enough concussion missiles, fighters and ground forces to take three systems at once and _really_ make them regret ditching those point defense lasers at the same time.
"Who needs tie fighters when you have 1500 tubrolasers.." Hmm might want to look at both Death Stars. All those guns they had did nothing for them. :)
+naruto naruto true true
Too bad they didn't point the superlaser at capital ships
The Death Star one wasn't accurate enough to hit capital ships in the heat of battle
Then why make it?
naruto naruto the reason the Death Star was destroyed was because of the turbo lasers not being made for small x wing size ships they were made for shooting down capital ships
I prefer the eclipse because of the jet black color
I agree, the harrower is really good. I mean, look around the bridge area. Look at how many turbo laser batteries it has. An updated hanger, engines, and shield, some launch tubes for missiles, and a point defence system, and it could easily takeout an imperial-1. Not to mention you could replace the front hangers with a massive ion canon or something.
My favorite is the Demolisher, a Gladiator class cruiser/carrier. in lore it is based off of the harrower star destroyers.
Barry Bend I like the Gladiator
Barry Bend The horrower is a dreadnaught. Not a star destroyer.
Man, i've heard that name befire, but i can't put my finger on what it looks like
Well the harrower does share a similar structure to the gladiator and in the old canon would be an influence. The harrower was around 800 meters in length so pretty close.
How about Desann's flag ship, The Doomgiver. I have a soft spot for The Remnant and the reborn army.
How are they one of the best designs in Star Wars when in LEGO Star Wars you can destroy them by shooting the BALLS
Edit: OMG HE RESPONDED
barry milholland well most things will crumble if you shoot them in the balls
OOF
Lol
OOF
*ooooooooffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff*
Although I'm more of a Mon Cala ship guy, Interdictor, Venator, Resurgence all seems neat.
Definitely a Venator fan. Under appreciated and totally awesome looking!
That t-shirt you're wearing looks like something Cerberus would give out to all of its agents.😂
The Harrower was a beauty and wrecked house in it's era.
I prefer Venator looks out of all other star destroyers, and armaments of the Imperial star destroyer. The reason they dont arm Venator with heavy armament is that it'll be too OP in clone wars lol (there's always a way to fit in bigger power source so it wont be a prob)
Loong Chang Wang venators are mainly carriers that's why they don't have that many big weapons.
Badger But for the Clone Wars, The Venator was very heavily armed. I believe in the holocron heist arc of SWTCW, a single Venator took down 3 or 4 Separatist cruisers.
harrower for me, for the looks,
YT-1300 mating with an imperial cruiser
My favorites are the venator class and the resurgence class ships. The venator has enough star-fighters to screen enemy fighters, and the resurgence has pretty good point defense.
I agree on the Harrower class dreadnought. While it may have seemed pathetically under-powered by the later ships of the successive eras, It was still a wicked cool ship!
Evolution of walkers
I actually have a Sith Empire Star Destroyer in Star Wars The Old Republic in my Sith guild I'm in. It's so cool.
they werent call star destroyers until original post clone wars eras.
Vader ‘s executor was the coolest
the venator class has always been my favourite :D
All this and not a force field / shield to be found anywhere...
Captain Picard: "Data, beam a photon torpedo onto the bridge of that overly large cheese wedge."
I'm disappointed, he didn't talk about the New Republic star destroyer variants from legends.
'Hears Plagueis' name.' *HAVE YOU HEARD THE TALE OF DARTH PLAGUEIS THE WIZE?!....*
Midiclorians, dude
I AM THE SENATE
Can the rebels just crash a ship into the Death Star at lightspeed?
And if so, why didn't they think of that in the first place?
What about the Centorion-class Battlecruiser? AKA the infamous Ravager. They were built a millennia after the Harrower-class dreadnought and were used during the Mandalorian Wars (3960 BBY). They have an awkward close resemblance to the imperial star-destroyer and I think it's worth mentioning.
Ah yes,my favorite ship,the space pizza
Loving this series. Keep up the good work.
The death star: Is the strongest weapon in the universe
Also the death star: Has a single huge weak spot that the enemy can exploit and blow it up easily
Marie BCFHS the empire did not have the plans to fix it so they never knew about it except for the stupid design that let the Death Star get blown up so easily
Respect the camera man
Imperial I Class is my favorite by far, with the Executor being my 2nd favorite.
I was so excited to see a ship used as a battering ram, and in Trek and Wars always said why not just fly something at warp into such and such super weapon. Borg Cube rammed by an old Excelsior at Warp 9 probably have the same effect as what we saw in The Last Jedi.
I think you flipped the docking arrangement for the Supremacy- 6 EXTERNAL, 2 internal. The external ones go on the docking spots on the back of the wings- 3 on each side- making 6.
1:07 Is that a projectile weapon? (Why would a blaster have that thing sticking out of the bottom? It's obviously designed to hold ammunition)
idk, it may just be there as a large energy cell, because it was naturally the least cumbersome place to put and switch it?
One could also ask why energy weapons like lasers have recoil.... Don't look for logic where there is clearly no one...
I’d like to see a film about the Mandalorians
Nephtali Valdez *DISNEY+ GETS MAD BY THAT*
*_*The Mandalorian Plays Menacingly In The Background_**
I think you missed Darth Nihilus' Ship from Malachor V
he missed my ship how dare he!!!!
Apologies, my Lord
technically The Centurion-class battlecruiser wasn't really a star destroyer at all
I think one of my favorite scenes in all of star wars is the end of rogue one after they get the plans and they're all happy and the music is playing and you think they're just gonna get away with it and then Darth Vaders star destroyer comes out of hyper space, slamming into the rebel ships and tearing through them, leading to the amazing scene of vader just cutting down the rebels himself
I like the triangle shaped one
I hate the whole "light speed kamikaze" BS that they pulled in The Last Jedi, the rebels could literally just use a bunch of tiny ships controlled by computers to fly into any and every large First Order ship and wipe out all of their best weapons in no time lol.
If it was a thing that could actually be done, they could have light speed kamikazed a cruiser into the core of the death star and called it a day, or light speed kamikaze one X-Wing into every star destroyer lol. BEST WEAPON EVER lol... ugh.
To be honest the only reason that tactic worked was that Raddus is an idiot! Any reasonably competent Imperial officer would have opened fire with everything he had as the cruiser turned round as a ram is a likely possability!
He is saying that having a hyperdrive based weapon would be THE answer to any and all capital-ship size fleets. A torpedo with a hyperdrive system could cut through an ISD like butter if what we saw in the last jedi is the case. Anything larger than perhaps a nebulon B cruiser would be easy prey for such a weapon.
This strategy wasn't used before because the rebellion/resistance didn't have that many ships, unlike the empire/first order. Using this strategy would cause the rebellion/resistance to quickly run out of resources. Anyways, many imperial ships had shields, so x-wings couldn't do as much damage to them as the resistance ship in TLJ did to Snoke's ship.
The supremacy
Strengths: Scary huge, hyperspace tracking, Tie fighters, mobile shipyard
Weakness: a purple haired lady
Lol you mean insane purple haired lady
Another excellent video. Being Stuck inside due to the stay at home order, I've been rewatching all the videos on Eckharts Ladder channel. I love his presentation style. A perfect ratio of facts to story. The blend of info and entertainment make learning about Star Wars more enjoyable than watching one of the new Disney star wars movies (that's a burn on Disney). Why oh why couldn't my old high school teachers present their subjects like this? I would have been an exceptional C+/B- student (instead of graduating with a solid D. That's a joke cuz I was teased over my large bra size). @AskEck Keep these videos coming - you are the light at the end of my tunnel (of boredom) 😁😍🥰👍❤️
The tall purple-haired woman was “Admiral Holdo”. Now I’m thinking what she would look like in SW-TCW form. That would be something someone could idealize to create a Fan-Fiction story. 🙂
At the time the brother hood of darkness deployed the sith star destroyer
“I dont have any images but i guess it was wedge shaped”
Me: duh thats what we are talking about
I was just reading about these, I know it isn’t canon or even legends (I don’t think) but I’ve always thought the Imperium Super Star Destroyer was really cool. Just because of its sheer size.
The imperium ultra class star dreadnought does not exist, it's fan designed. Kind of a shame, but imagine the logistics of a ship that size
l0rf yeah I thought so, but as far as logistics go I think it’s far more reasonable than the Death Star haha
I'd have to say I love the *Resurgent-class Battlecruiser/Star Destroyer* the most, in spite of my usual love for the classic Imperial I and II's of the Empire, and of course the Executor-class. I do think that for its day, the *Harrower-class* was utterly vital to the evolution of the Star Destroyer as we know it (in-universe) though in the real world obviously the real credit should go to the invention of the Imperial Star Destroyer (The Devastator) which debuted in 1977, also being the 2nd ever ship on-screen in Star Wars history (though the CR90 Corellian Corvette the Tantive IV was the very first ship of any kind seen in Star Wars, and the opening scrawl alluded to rebel ships attacking the Empire previously - from whence we get Rogue One's origins)
The Harrower-class, pioneered by the likes of impressive *Grand Moff Odile Vaiken* thousands of years before, under the reign of the Sith Emperor Vitiate, was integral (in-universe) to the story of the Star Destroyer. This military genius laid down plans which he knew he wouldn't live to see completed, and made the Sith Empire's navy the ferocious power it was in those ancient times. Long after his death, the Sith Emperor's fleet was utterly overwhelming to the Old Republic, forcing them back and wiping out entire fleets which stood in their way. Odile Vaiken even died testing out a prototype Star Destroyer, on the bridge of a new model (presumably akin to an upgraded Harrower-class) while fighting alien factions in wild space, expanding the Sith Empire. A worthy way to go, for such a major figure in Star Destroyer development - dying testing the might of his designs, with even his loss most likely helping make his designs even better posthumously. Utter dedication to his cause.
Even Emperor Palpatine reflected on the Harrower-class thousands of years after they were prominent, regarding them as important models to base the Imperial Navy on. The Kaminoans had already been inspired by the Old Republic and Sith Empire of the long-gone past, in their designs of the Clone Trooper Phase I uniforms and their commissions to Rothana Heavy Engineering for a dagger-shaped carrier/assault ship (the Acclamator-class)
Republic and Imperial Star Destroyers aside, I just cannot overlook the potential of the Resurgent-class Star Destroyer as it is utterly imposing and for its size, far superior to any ship of its kind that came before.
A single Resurgent-class (especially with its Kyber-enhanced weapon systems) would shred an entire squadron of Imperial II-class Star Destroyers, all on its own. I strongly believe that.
It was designed to bully other capital ships into submission in a much more pointed and decisive way than even the Imperial Star Destroyer variants ever were. It was a deliberate, intentional and specific upgrade on those designs.
Pound for pound, it is a far more advanced warship than even the Executor-class, and if it were the same size up-scaled...then the Executor-class would be as redundant in its size range as the Imperial-class was in its size range.
It'd take a few Resurgent-class Star Destroyers to take down an Executor-class, I believe, but I have little confidence in the old Imperial Super Star Destroyer to survive such an assault. It might be able to use its full firepower to bludgeon one of the Resurgents to death with sheer weight of firepower, but that advantage wouldn't last long as the Resurgents overpowered the shields and targeted the bridge.
If I could, I'd have a Grand Fleet of a minimum of *10,000 Resurgent-class* Star Destroyers. The Empire had 25,000 Imperial-class Star Destroyers and they still lost. But 10,000 Resurgent-class would do a better job at protecting a huge empire than 2.5 times as many older design vessels could. I'd say *1 Resurgent-class = 4 Imperial-class* in a straight up slogging match of ship-to-ship battle. Also, First Order pilots and superior fighters would stomp all over the older Imperial ones (though not without taking some losses themselves, don't get me wrong)
Ideally, *30,000 Resurgent-class* would ensure almost total control of the galaxy.
I would also prefer that there are at least 1000 Mandator IV-class Siege Dreadnoughts, and a range of other classes of First Order warships. There need to be thousands of frigates, corvettes, cruisers and heavier classes. We know the TIE Silencer prototype, ''The Silencer'' flown by Kylo Ren personally, was him test piloting a new model of interceptor fighter of devastating power and quality. Therefore, it'd make a lot of sense for the First Order to be bringing more and more designs into production, brand new and the very metalwork glowing hot fresh off the production line. We already know that the Mandator IV-class Siege Dreadnought was brand new and basically being trialled when we see it (the Fulminatrix) in Episode 8.
I'm hoping to see an Executor-class size range Super Dreadnought, built for the First Order. Bigger than the Mandator IV-class, but smaller than the insanely massive Supremacy-class. If I remember rightly, the Eclipse is now canonical again, and *was* taken into the Unknown Regions long ago. Hopefully it is still out there somewhere, and perhaps even serving as a model for Kuat-Entralla and the First Order shipyards in the Unknown Regions, to produce an even more impressive ship. After all, Kyber crystals are utilised in the weapons systems of some of the Resurgent-class, such as the Finalizer. And, if Eclipse is indeed still out there, and maybe even upgraded by the First Order the same way they upgraded a lot of Imperial Era tech surplus, then, that thing demonstrates a super-laser outright to begin with. It'd make sense for the First Order to be building mobile super-laser armed Super Dreadnoughts.
When complimented by a large fleet of Resurgent-class Star Destroyers, and with several other ship classes to fill out a fleet in any given situation, including Mandator IV-class Siege Dreadnoughts, then it would be a terrifying arrangement to try to take on. The Supremacy was a wasted opportunity, though.
I'm not put off by its controversial size, so much as the way it was used in Episode 8. It was worthy of the First Order and in most situations would be a monstrosity. But lets just say that it was under-powered in some crucial aspects...
even if you had 100,000 ships; you could only send 1 ship to spend about 52 minutes in all billion star systems in your average galaxy. Control of a galaxy is a fantasy in star wars.
ThePalaeontologist dang you wrote a lot
+uniquelydavid,
Your primitive take on military strategy is clear; you assume that every single planetary system is equally challenging to control at any level.
100,000 ships would be more than enough to control the galaxy, as you clearly refer to 100,000 capital ships - as I mentioned, if you even noticed, I said that there were millions of other ships in many other classes besides the 25,000 ISD's.
The Imperial Navy was staggering. The rebels should never have won, just by looking at the Imperial Fleet alone.
I'll detail more on why you're basically wrong:
1. Like I say, the galaxy is full of primitive/lifeless/sub-hyperspeed technology capable worlds. While the exact proportion is clearly unknown, the fact remains that *to control the galaxy would only require dominance over the most advanced systems* within it.
2. Continuing on that theme; to control the galaxy would mean *ruling from fortress worlds and dominating key hyperspace lanes* as well as setting up interconnected outposts far and wide.
If one Imperial stronghold can exert influence over hundreds of surrounding, less powerful systems, that is essentially enough.
In the real world, the British Empire dominated the largest Empire in human history from outposts dominating vast swathes of ocean and land areas. In the ''British Lake'' of the Mediterranean Sea in the 19th century and 20th century, Britain dominated from four main bases; Gibraltar, Malta, Alexandria and Cyprus (Limassol) Britain also had Crete and other bases in the region, as well as a major asset in at the time (during the late 19th to mid 20th century) owning the Suez Canal.
The Suez Canal can be compared to a hyperspace lane of sorts, because its construction was done to avoid having to sail all the way down the Atlantic Ocean, rounding southern Africa and sailing all the way up the Indian Ocean to wherever you wanted to go to. Taking a nifty shortcut from the Mediterranean to the Indian Ocean via the Gulf of Arabia, helped massively. This was and is the value of that sea lane. The Panama Canal is the Americana equivalent, which prevents the need for expensively sailing round South America to get to your destination, coming or going. Naturally, while still a major global power, hyperpower (the world's only ever) and giant Empire, Britain jealously guarded its rights and ownership of the Suez Canal. With its loss in the events of 1956, Britain's already collapsing Empire faded far quicker. The British artery binding their eastern and western possessions either side of Africa, through Africa, was severed and this made the task of maintaining their imperial bases in the Pacific and Indonesia region e.g Malaya/Malaysia extremely difficult (there were counterinsurgency wars in those regions subsequently, which Britain narrowly managed to get through though losing its dominant presence/air of power in the process itself)
Moreover, British Hong Kong, was even further isolated and its fall to the vile hands of Communism became inevitable.
Speaking of Hong Kong, British imperial control of Singapore and Hong Kong, and other well-developed outposts, ensured that for decades, Imperial and later Communist China, was kept in check to some extent. You don't need to rule the entire continent to win the war - just tough outposts which help winning naval supremacy. In the Star Wars galaxy, domination of key trade lanes and key systems/keystone systems, not to mention their forward bases on random worlds in their exploration of the galaxy, has been proven repeatedly in galactic history to be enough to rule.
3. It is true SW lore is very inconsistent/written by countless authors, with different takes on how it should be (and a lot of people piss me off in SW they write so much bullshit, just look at the new BS in The Last Jedi my word what a shit show that was)
But that matters little - in the original trilogy, in A New Hope (''The Star Wars'', its original name before Lucas thought of making 6 films in choppy order) it was well established that the Empire was the dominant political force and military organisation.
With the limited details back then, the Empire was always intended to be the boss in the SW galaxy, the big bad...
So, it was *always narrative to the story that the Empire had dominance* and that this oppression was the mirror to the rebel movement trying to smash it.
It was never intended to be anything other than that.
4. 1 Imperial-class Star Destroyer has the potential means to subdue an entire system. You underestimate the power of this class of ship. It has the firepower to glass entire continents in an hour long bombardment merely, and if a small fleet of these get together they can kill all life on a planet's surface effectively. They are devastating. This is part of why the Death Stars seem even more stupid to me - the Navy could achieve the levels of destruction with ease. Han Solo's ad lib line about how the Imperial Fleet wouldn't be able to blow up a planet and that it'd take more than half the firepower of the fleet is just wrong, hyperbolic at best.
Clearly, if an entire starfleet of Star Destroyers (say, over 100 of them - or 100/25,000 or 0.4% of the number of Star Destroyers the Empire has) bombarded a planet for a few days non-stop I am sure it'd start to implode. It is nowhere near 50%/12,500 Star Destroyers. It was clearly a figure of speech from Han, but his fear and concern/disbelief in it, implies sloppy writing by Lucas (Lucas's writing was famously cringey and there are behind the scenes stories of how Mark, Harrison and Carrie all called Lucas out of lines they either hated or really didn't like/outright hated/wanted changed) There are interviews confirming this. So the line is inconsistent with how powerful Star Destroyers canonically are.
So, 1 Star Destroyer (or, 1/25,000th of the Star Destroyers the Empire has/ 0.004% of the Imperial Star Destroyer totals) could dominate potentially hundreds of minor worlds and be a major threat to a more developed system. Of course, rebel tactics improved so much that lone Star Destroyers became relatively vulnerable to strikes against them, and the architectural shortcomings of ISD's on a tactical level - versus snub fighters and bombers especially, mastered by the rebels unfortunately for the Imperials - became increasingly devastating as a flaw which could be worked around. But that was only the rebels whose entire existence was predicated on their struggle against the Empire by any means at their disposal, going to desperate, self-sacrificing lengths to bring down the Empire. Most other factions/forces/independent groups in the galaxy, stood zero chance of effectively contending with the Imperial Navy. Even the Rebel Alliance took years and years to get good at taking out ISD's and imperial bases, and even then they took massive casualties to learn important lessons. For a long time, ISD's would dominate the rebels in battles and tear them to pieces. Only when we get to events in SW rebels and Rogue One, are rebels successful in taking out ISD's in open battles/sabotages.
Now imagine you're some random planet with a small militia army with outdated equipment and not much contact with the outer galaxy at large - and then, an ISD fully manned by 47,000 crew, troopers and officers, aiming its guns at your capital city from orbit and demanding you surrender blasts out of hyperspace. Erm...yeah, I think you'd probably surrender and convert to the GE rather than be blown to mincemeat by an Orbital Bombardment/Delta Base Zero command order.
Now imagine 100 of those ships with 4.7 million crew, troopers and officers, turn up. Now imagine 1,000 (or 1/25th of the Imperial ISD numbers) show up, with 47 million crew, troopers and officers. Are you seeing what I mean?
5. Yes, the Imperial forces were spread thinly - relatively - around the galaxy. And yes, the number of Imperial ships at both the Battle of Endor and even the Battle of Jakku seems stupidly small. However, there is a good reason for this. Well, two good reasons:
i) the limitations of budget, production time, visual effects and film elements in the 1983 ROTJ film.
ii) the story element that at the Battle of Endor, the Empire didn't want to attract too much attention by moving too many ISD's around to one corner of the galaxy. The 30 or so ISD's at Endor were dripping slowly into the rally point one by one, not drawing unwanted attention, to ensure secrecy. If 400 ISD's just blasted up the backside of the Rebel fleet out of hyperspace (as they so easily could have, I believe, and should have) then it'd be bye bye rebel fleet, bye bye Rebellion full stop)
Imperials got nerfed so badly. But there is some logic in ''only'' 30 ISD's being present. 30 ISD's would normally be fucking terrifying but in those circumstances where so much was at stake, Palpatine should have brought more to the fight. But they were going to lose from the get go - the fucking film title is a clue ''Return Of The Jedi'' lol...
Even with that strategic situation in mind, the Empire was still the dominant power for a year and 4 days after the Battle of Endor - until the bloody Battle of Jakku ended the Galactic Civil War.
The Empire should never have lost the war in my view, they simply had too many forces to be beaten. They could have endured a dozen Battle of Jakku sized defeats - and it'd only take 3 or 4 of those kinds of defeats to bleed the Rebellion dry. Jakku cost both sides horrific losses and the Rebels were almost spent themselves, even in victory, losing so many hundreds of thousands of lives to win. Sure, the New Republic could then, while the ruling power, recruit millions/billions more units, but their anti-military policies which even turned against General Leia, meant they disbanded and banned vast armies, and this made them vulnerable when the First Order attacked them. Idiotic communistic rebels lol
6. You need to learn about the importance of naval strategy.
Thanks for writing a book in the comment section
If that is a book to you, well...oh dear.
There's some *really* high pitched noise in this video. Example: around 5:54. Not sure what caused it.
Nothing is more beautiful than the Harrower class Dreadnought, it's such a great mix of intimidation and elegance.
The final evolution; Let's make a 2.5x scale ISD. Let's stick a "death star" laser on the bottom so it can blow up planets as well. Then let's bury about 1000 of them so we can get wicked visuals when they are revealed. But we want to give that pesky resistance a sporting chance yes? Well let's make it so their shields don't work inside atmosphere, the navigation system (or pilots) can't tell which way UP is, and also remember that death star laser? Let's make it so hitting that with anything at all blows up the whole ship.
Lord Megatron loser
The venator was always my favorite
you should do some legends star destroyers evolution vid
Dark Kronis Many of these ships were from Legends
TY so much for the spoiler warning. Some of us super busy people haven’t found time to watch last Jedi yet and that sort of advice in s video is greatly appreciated
5:48 - Federation Droid Control Battleship photobomb! Precursor to the fully spherical Death Stars
I saw the Executor destroyed in '83 and I'm STILL pissed over it. A-wing rage...
What a garbage ending for such an iconic ship, even though it is obvious that the Eclipse and Supremacy would destroy the Executor in a straight fight. Still my personal favorite.
Imagine one guy killing half of your empire's army
Sorry Obi Wan, The Ewoks were killed after the battle of Endor buy her some sort of virus, or catastrophic event. They're all gone, which is very disappointing because I think McDonald's would really prosper off of Ewok meat.
He had to triple-check his sources. That was the second funniest thing that i've ever heard in my entire life.
After watching The Last Jedi, the scene at 6:46 begs the question of what would have happened if the little ship that gets crushed when the Star Destroyer emerges lightspeed had decided to jump to lightspeed itself at that moment.
Would it have cut a giant hole in the Star Destroyer like in The Last Jedi?
Why was episode 8 the first time we get to see hyper space suicide pilots? Why didn't anyone figure out that you could do that before?
it probably doesnt work as well if it isnt a surprise. if you know that the enemy will try it, there are ways to counter it. plus you can only do it so many times before you start running out of ships or people. i suppose they could always try equipping a missile with hyperspace tech but that would make it extremely expensive to produce. you might as well build a ship around it for additional mass for the impact. not to mention im sure there would be drawbacks to launching a missile out of a tube on a ship at light speed.
because the fact you can ram shit in ftl renders the death star pointless. one striped down hyperdrive with a guidance system hitting a planet would outclass the energy of any super weapon in star wars if were using even slightly realistic physics. the rebelion should have been able to one shot the death star with a glancing blow from one striped down X wing. granted this is star wars and real world pyhiscs is pretty far removed but still.
bevor noone ever ran out of "fuel" in SW history....
They probably did, they just weren't fighting Hux who was a moron and got tunnel visioned. Keep in mind he had plenty of time to destroy the Raddus but chose not to. Any competent commander would have destroyed the Raddus when it started to move. Hux is only arround because Snoke thought he could beat the resistance through sheer fire power alone.
And lack of fuel tends not to bring spaceships to a halt by itself.
No mention of the Doomgiver. :(
In regard to the Mandalorian/Jedi Civil War era, I'd say the Centurion class battlecruiser would be a better source for inspiration for the Imperial Star Destroyer line due to it actually looking like a precursor to Star Destroyers
For me, sometimes the simplest solution is the best. While perhaps not as flashy or specialized as its forebears or decedents, the classic Imperial I Star Destroyer is still my favorite. Distinct, imposing, a touch regal looking and carrying enough firepower, fighters, and troops to shred an entire fleet of lesser ships or slag a civilized world all on its own, the Imperial was as much a symbol as it was a machine of war. Just one showing up in system meant the Empire wasn't screwing around and though costly and not without its design flaws unless you were aboard a Mon Cal there was very little you could do against it a straight on fight.
If you want to rule the galaxy give me 250,000 of those over a Death Star or Galaxy Gun or World Devastator any day.
Why didnt snoke's ship carry a gravity well to stop captain holdo?
it actually might have, the prob is it also takes time to warm up a GWP, and they're not exactly something you can keep running all the time.
Because that would make sense, something clearly against Rian Johnson's religion
George Corbul well, I don't know, someone who has already lost? Like the guys we are meant to care about in that movie....
Even if it was on it would take several seconds for the ship to de-accelerate. Holdo probably also deactivated the safety the prevents ships from jumping into large objects and through gravity wells
So why don't they build small droneships that can go hyperspace and crash them into larger ships all the time?