Thanks. Excellent tips I’ll put to use. I have the most difficulty fingerpicking as I have nails for my classical and six string that don’t work well on the twelve. Trying to use just the flesh. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t (a nail gets caught). Work in progress.
At one time I thought about acrylic nails. But when I worked it was against hospital policy for employees. The concern was the artificial nail can harbor germs. I don't think I could get use to it ❤️
@@guitarnotions I really like the sound of your fingerpicking. Flesh is warmer than the click of nails. I keep my nails relatively short, rounded, and beveled - that rounds the sound - but it is a daily chore to maintain them. And if I break a nail, it will take around three months to be back to where it was. So I garden with gloves. It’s something I’m used to. I write to emphasize to your viewers that there is nothing wrong or deficient in fingerpicking with flesh, and I’m now working to do so because I feel it is necessary to activate both strings on a twelve string.
@@CameraLaw I tried finger pucks of every type and was never comfortable until I realize I could pick the strings with my fingertips lifting up just a little. I have enough callus on my finger tips now - it seems to work 😀
I have a Taylor 552CE ( X Braced). I bought a Taylor replacement bone saddle to replace the Tusq saddle from the factory. I set the action of the new saddle to the usual 90/70; however, when I checked the actual factory spec for action ( with proper neck relief) it is 75-85 over 45-55 ! I confirmed that with the factory rep. I have not dropped it to those specs and have no buzz. Playability is good at 90/70. One thing about this guitar is that stays in tune very well. Thank God for electronic tuners, though.
Awesome session as always! I enjoy and learn from them. I have an Alvarez 12 string I popped a high G on so replaced the whole set with lights but found barring to be a chore. Action seems to be low enough and was barrable before. Would you recommend extra lights? I'm concerned of loosing tone with them. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience with us!
Hello, I usually use elixir 10/47. Just a thought, is it possible you reversed the saddle unknowingly? That would change the action. I only say this because it happened to me. I did not realise I did it until then guitar was a strung up. 😀 thanks so much of listening in❤️
Just a thought on tuning. Maybe try tuning the 12 string down to 432hz. That should sound even better. Imo. Thanks for all your tips, you teach us so much. 🥂
@@MichaelFeder-x6k almost as how you should treat your woman (or man) That is why I really refuse to understand why some smash up their instrument after performing ... B.B. King really loves his Lucille ... her precious voice and curvy body ...
I get I now, the reversal. Neat! I had a 800 dollar Washburn that was slightly cheaper due to factory flaws but I didn't know anything about guitar's then and didn't know the truss rod could be adjusted so I gave it away to my father in law who then gave it away to someone else. I wish now I had it still cause my mother who passed gave it to me.
@@guitarnotions we eventually learn. I had to pay someone 20 dollars cause I was afraid at first to do it. Then, I was off to the races. People love getting my guitar's in their hands.
Hi Cindy !! My friend loaned me a Rickenbacker electric reverse strung that I was going to use on a new track. Decided to not use it and went with my Double neck SG after my tech set up the 12 string. Just dropped in to see what you were cooking up here. Nice Taylor btw. Enjoy You and your channel. 😊🎼🎶
I like the sound of reverse strum when I am finger picking. But when using a pick I think I like the standard way to string the 12 string. Did you like the sound of the Rickenbacker?
@@guitarnotionsI loved the Rick. It's the model Roger McGuin uses in Sonic Blue. The piece I'm recording is string skipped arpeggiated chords using a pick where the upper tones create the melody. It's doable but not with the strings upside down. I actually tried playing it with all upstrokes lol.
Do you change the gauge or picks. It makes a huge impact on my 12. Also agree with you on low action. I also have a Taylor, beautiful guitar. You have a high fret.
Now that is another excellent point… the pick. Yes I do change picks out to different styles/thickness. But my go to pick is “guitar moose” - carbon picks. Picks make a significant difference. ❤️
Some buzz is acceptable. I strongly believe that. It's playing style. I had a electric guitar I recently sold and the guy got mad at first. Then I told him, play softer. He couldn't put it down after that.
I had a twelve stringer in Edinburgh Scotland back in the mid 60s. It was a Framus, popular in the day. I later sold it to Davey Johnstone who also comes from Edinburgh and has been a lifetime guitarist with Elton John. Was in touch with Davey some years ago and he said he still has that guitar. Doesn’t play it much nowadays but never sold it. Very interesting what you said about the B string buzzing. If I ever get string buzz on either acoustic or electrics, it’s invariably on that darned B string. Like you, I just live with it now and don’t try to adjust it. Great channel and love all your tips. Been playing for over 60 years but still learn a lot from you. Best wishes from the U.K. 🇬🇧👏👏👏🙋♂️
I really want to try a 12-string. I’m wondering if anyone else besides Taylor makes a short scale 12 string with a reversed string setup. You and I have a similar playing style in the way we accent the bass notes. I suppose one could buy a less expensive short scale 12 string with a standard setup and then convert it to a reverse setup by changing the nut and saddle. Could make for a fun project. But honestly, that Taylor is just perfectly setup for ease of use. I don’t think converting a guitar would ever turn out quite the same.
You could get a 12 fret / 12 string guitar and take it to a luthier - it would just need a new nut and saddle. But I do agree Taylor knocked this one out of the park! I know Breedlove made a short scale 12 a while back. It was an Atlas so it was not duper expensive. Really nice play (not with reversed strings)
@@MashaT22 Somewhere on RUclips, Doyle Dykes shows how he uses a pencil point to pop the three bass courses out of the nut and flip them. He uses a thumb pick and wants the bass string on top. So … you can have it both ways.
Thank you very much for this vlog and your response of me requesting it, Cindy. I'm very intrigued about the reversal of the 'normal' and the thin strings ... but as I hear you play it I think it loses the fine high tones a bit in between ... (I wonder if it's standard on this model) It sounds like it has a positive effect on playing the barre chords if you press your index finger a bit downwards I definitely will try it whenever I need to replace strings on mine that wears Martin copperstrings .012/.012 - .016/.016 - .025/.010 - .032/.014 - .042/.020 - .054/.030
Its interesting to note; You may have a capo with a radius that does not match the fingerboard radius. Especially with lighter strings, This causes uneven pressure on the strings. This can result in an out of tune guitar.
I can bring out more of the highs with how I play. I like the low tones. This reminds me. I would love a baritone guitar. Thanks so much for your thoughts And feedback. ❤️
Who doesn't remember the classic song 'As Tears Go By' from The Rolling Stones and how even a slightly out of tune double-six can make a fantastic hitsong!
Maybe since you did the 2 5 1 you might do the spicier blues for people that want a change from just 1 4 5 ... and you can play any song if you know the blues with turnarounds to the 2, you know what I mean? When you get to the 2 bar part of the blues on the 4 chord and the last two beats are the #4 diminished....before going back to the one and it starts turnaround to the 2. The 3 that are a good start is 1 3 4 6, 1 4 3 6 or 1 7 b7 6.... you know what I mean? then you get the 2 5 1 and then a 1 6 2 5 before it starts at the beginning.....oh I forgot to mention the 2 bar part of the one chord the last 2 beats being made the 2 5 of the 4 chord!
Its new for me. I have enjoyed it. It tames the lively jangle… but I know many prefer the traditional. The famous songs of the 60/70’s would not be the same without the traditional. ❤️
Beautiful lady, I appreciate your content. This is the 2nd lesson I got from you, & I'm saving & learning. Thank you.✌️😇
So glad you found the videos helpful! Thank you ❤️
That last point, youve made before, and it helped me a lot with my 12 string. Cheers.
Glad it was helpful ❤️
Thanks. Excellent tips I’ll put to use. I have the most difficulty fingerpicking as I have nails for my classical and six string that don’t work well on the twelve. Trying to use just the flesh. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t (a nail gets caught). Work in progress.
At one time I thought about acrylic nails. But when I worked it was against hospital policy for employees. The concern was the artificial nail can harbor germs. I don't think I could get use to it ❤️
@@guitarnotions I really like the sound of your fingerpicking. Flesh is warmer than the click of nails. I keep my nails relatively short, rounded, and beveled - that rounds the sound - but it is a daily chore to maintain them. And if I break a nail, it will take around three months to be back to where it was. So I garden with gloves. It’s something I’m used to. I write to emphasize to your viewers that there is nothing wrong or deficient in fingerpicking with flesh, and I’m now working to do so because I feel it is necessary to activate both strings on a twelve string.
@@CameraLaw I tried finger pucks of every type and was never comfortable until I realize I could pick the strings with my fingertips lifting up just a little. I have enough callus on my finger tips now - it seems to work 😀
I have a Taylor 552CE ( X Braced). I bought a Taylor replacement bone saddle to replace the Tusq saddle from the factory. I set the action of the new saddle to the usual 90/70; however, when I checked the actual factory spec for action ( with proper neck relief) it is 75-85 over 45-55 ! I confirmed that with the factory rep. I have not dropped it to those specs and have no buzz. Playability is good at 90/70. One thing about this guitar is that stays in tune very well. Thank God for electronic tuners, though.
Your guitar sounds like a wonderful player! You are so right about the electronic tuners ❤️
I haven't found that one guitar that does it all. Thanks for the tips and advice.
Its a great reason to buy more than one😃
Then you haven't seen the Medusa Guitar yet ... 🤣🤣🤣
@@rik_mr.aap866 I just looked it up… made in England? Those are some abstract creations for sure😀
@@guitarnotions yes ... abstract they are ... both the creations as the creators 🤣🤣🤣😇
@@rik_mr.aap866 yes but look at the detail! Pretty amazing!😀
Nice!! Glad to see a video on the 12 string. How would you compare the Taylor 12 string to say the McKenzie and Marr 12 string ??
That's a good question. I dont know that yet. Have not played o e. But I have a feeling the Taylor will be more mid range.
Awesome session as always! I enjoy and learn from them. I have an Alvarez 12 string I popped a high G on so replaced the whole set with lights but found barring to be a chore. Action seems to be low enough and was barrable before. Would you recommend extra lights? I'm concerned of loosing tone with them. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience with us!
Hello, I usually use elixir 10/47. Just a thought, is it possible you reversed the saddle unknowingly? That would change the action. I only say this because it happened to me. I did not realise I did it until then guitar was a strung up. 😀 thanks so much of listening in❤️
Just a thought on tuning. Maybe try tuning the 12 string down to 432hz. That should sound even better. Imo. Thanks for all your tips, you teach us so much. 🥂
Thanks for the tip!❤️
Thanks, Cindy ,the secret I have found is to treat them gentle,thanks for your tips
That is so true❤️
@@MichaelFeder-x6k almost as how you should treat your woman (or man)
That is why I really refuse to understand why some smash up their instrument after performing ...
B.B. King really loves his Lucille ... her precious voice and curvy body ...
I get I now, the reversal. Neat! I had a 800 dollar Washburn that was slightly cheaper due to factory flaws but I didn't know anything about guitar's then and didn't know the truss rod could be adjusted so I gave it away to my father in law who then gave it away to someone else. I wish now I had it still cause my mother who passed gave it to me.
That had happened to me too. I did not know an adjustment was all that was needed👀
@@guitarnotions we eventually learn. I had to pay someone 20 dollars cause I was afraid at first to do it. Then, I was off to the races. People love getting my guitar's in their hands.
Hi Cindy !! My friend loaned me a Rickenbacker electric reverse strung that I was going to use on a new track. Decided to not use it and went with my Double neck SG after my tech set up the 12 string. Just dropped in to see what you were cooking up here. Nice Taylor btw. Enjoy You and your channel. 😊🎼🎶
I like the sound of reverse strum when I am finger picking. But when using a pick I think I like the standard way to string the 12 string. Did you like the sound of the Rickenbacker?
@@guitarnotionsI loved the Rick. It's the model Roger McGuin uses in Sonic Blue. The piece I'm recording is string skipped arpeggiated chords using a pick where the upper tones create the
melody. It's doable but not with the strings upside down.
I actually tried playing it with all upstrokes lol.
Do you change the gauge or picks. It makes a huge impact on my 12. Also agree with you on low action. I also have a Taylor, beautiful guitar. You have a high fret.
Now that is another excellent point… the pick. Yes I do change picks out to different styles/thickness. But my go to pick is “guitar moose” - carbon picks. Picks make a significant difference. ❤️
@@jeffsquires6620 that was also my thought ... a high or even loose fret ...
My 2 favorites are my Breedlove and lbanez 12s
Breedlove makes some really nice 12 strings. I have not tried Ibanez but they are known for making great necks 😀
Some buzz is acceptable. I strongly believe that. It's playing style. I had a electric guitar I recently sold and the guy got mad at first. Then I told him, play softer. He couldn't put it down after that.
Sometime playing softer is good😀
I had a twelve stringer in Edinburgh Scotland back in the mid 60s. It was a Framus, popular in the day.
I later sold it to Davey Johnstone who also comes from Edinburgh and has been a lifetime guitarist with Elton John. Was in touch with Davey some years ago and he said he still has that guitar. Doesn’t play it much nowadays but never sold it.
Very interesting what you said about the B string buzzing. If I ever get string buzz on either acoustic or electrics, it’s invariably on that darned B string. Like you, I just live with it now and don’t try to adjust it.
Great channel and love all your tips. Been playing for over 60 years but still learn a lot from you. Best wishes from the U.K. 🇬🇧👏👏👏🙋♂️
@@mikecrean8849 so glad you are there listening. I enjoyed your post❤️
I really want to try a 12-string. I’m wondering if anyone else besides Taylor makes a short scale 12 string with a reversed string setup. You and I have a similar playing style in the way we accent the bass notes. I suppose one could buy a less expensive short scale 12 string with a standard setup and then convert it to a reverse setup by changing the nut and saddle. Could make for a fun project. But honestly, that Taylor is just perfectly setup for ease of use. I don’t think converting a guitar would ever turn out quite the same.
You could get a 12 fret / 12 string guitar and take it to a luthier - it would just need a new nut and saddle. But I do agree Taylor knocked this one out of the park! I know Breedlove made a short scale 12 a while back. It was an Atlas so it was not duper expensive. Really nice play (not with reversed strings)
Ibanez is your friend. Inexpensive and beautiful neck
It is NOT twice the work
I’m a very soft player and LOVE my 12s
@@MashaT22 Somewhere on RUclips, Doyle Dykes shows how he uses a pencil point to pop the three bass courses out of the nut and flip them. He uses a thumb pick and wants the bass string on top. So … you can have it both ways.
Thank you very much for this vlog and your response of me requesting it, Cindy.
I'm very intrigued about the reversal of the 'normal' and the thin strings ...
but as I hear you play it I think it loses the fine high tones a bit in between ...
(I wonder if it's standard on this model)
It sounds like it has a positive effect on playing the barre chords if you press your
index finger a bit downwards
I definitely will try it whenever I need to replace strings on mine
that wears Martin copperstrings
.012/.012 - .016/.016 - .025/.010 - .032/.014 - .042/.020 - .054/.030
when I use a capodastro on it tends to lose the tuning ...
Its interesting to note; You may have a capo with a radius that does not match the fingerboard radius. Especially with lighter strings, This causes uneven pressure on the strings. This can result in an out of tune guitar.
I can bring out more of the highs with how I play. I like the low tones. This reminds me. I would love a baritone guitar. Thanks so much for your thoughts And feedback. ❤️
@@guitarnotions I'm thinking about buying a seven-string
With an additional B-string you have a lot of possibilities in your bass-lines ...
@@guitarnotions you behind a guitarrón ...
Then we cannot see the lovely little lady playing it anymore 🤣🤣🤣
Who doesn't remember the classic song 'As Tears Go By' from The Rolling Stones
and how even a slightly out of tune double-six can make a fantastic hitsong!
I believe this song was originally written for Marianne Evelyn Gabriel Faithfull in '64
(Mick's girlfriend at that time?)
I remember the song - that is do interesting. Now I will have to listen again😀
@@guitarnotionsthis song was one of the reasons for me to try a twelve-stringer ...
Maybe since you did the 2 5 1 you might do the spicier blues for people that want a change from just 1 4 5 ... and you can play any song if you know the blues with turnarounds to the 2, you know what I mean? When you get to the 2 bar part of the blues on the 4 chord and the last two beats are the #4 diminished....before going back to the one and it starts turnaround to the 2. The 3 that are a good start is 1 3 4 6, 1 4 3 6 or 1 7 b7 6.... you know what I mean? then you get the 2 5 1 and then a 1 6 2 5 before it starts at the beginning.....oh I forgot to mention the 2 bar part of the one chord the last 2 beats being made the 2 5 of the 4 chord!
NOT a fan of reverse stringing
Its new for me. I have enjoyed it. It tames the lively jangle… but I know many prefer the traditional. The famous songs of the 60/70’s would not be the same without the traditional. ❤️