AMS EVO VIII Drag Car makes 1130 AWHP on VP Import and boost! The first evo to break 1100 awhp and the most powerful evo in the world! www.amsperformance.com
the guy who builds them is steve morris of steve morris racing engines. they are expensive (obviously) procharged engines, his "street" (street legal at least) caprice has 1740hp on pump gas. he also sells alcohol engines with more power
damn this thing is INSANE look at the flame coming out of the turbo pipe at 48 sec...that thing is packin heat. this is just nuts, i couldn't even imagine all that coming out of a 4 cylinder with only 2 liters
knock is when something is loose and metal to metal contact occures, making a knocking noise... sounds just like someone hitting the block with a hammer... a detonation is when the heat starts combustion before the piston is at tdc, before the plug sparks... also causing backfiring, and damage to the crank, rods, bearings, rings ect. its not usual for the lands to be damaged
I'm pretty sure no one would fuck with AMS. They make great parts for Evolution 8 and 9 but it is pricey, yet you're getting for what you pay and this is a good answer for that statement.
Exhaust experiment for FREE! Next time you go to a restaurant and get a straw, try to breathe through it. Next, cut off a 1 inch piece and try breathing through it instead. The same applies to exhaust on cars. Why are exhaust systems normally from front to back? To fit all the emissions gunk, to quiet the noise, and to give sufficient backpressure. With performance turbos, however, the sooner and quicker you get exhaust to the turbo, and air from the turbo to intake, the better.
no its called a knock sensor and it measures knock aka preignition. look at an ems software sometime. knock is not the temp the fuel is ignited, or burnt. its uncontrolled flame front in the combustion chamber. basically the spark starts one flame, the latent heat and compression start another and the flame fronts collide causing knock/detonation. this is what sounds like rocks in a can to some. it also destroys the ring lands and beats piston domes to death. im not asking for your opinion.
APC is quicker, but the two cannot be compared. APC is a full tube chassis car where AMS drag car is still factory chassis with factory mounted suspension location.
we have a 572 cobra jet motor in our shop that makes about 900hp on pump fuel, and when setup for good fuel will make roughly 1500hp or so. yet the point being it has to run lower compression pistons for the pump gas setup that limits its overall output. you are not going to get much more output without boost. and anyone that knows will tell you making it bigger isnt really going to help, larger bore = more chance/likelyhood for detonation
AMS does NOT use methanol!!! It was mostly a joke, but the exhaust is upfront and the dyno room's exhaust system is in the rear by the door. Plus when you first start tunning, you start on the rich side to be safe. Plus can you imagine how much fuel is being burned in that small of a time making that power? Crazy sheet.
I believe you can state in the video description: " I do not own the rights to the song in this video". I'm not sure if it will work, but we want to hear the engine!
the rings have such a small surface area, the pressure of even say 10000 psi would equal like a 100 pounds pressing on it, the ring lands get hurt by blowby, the heat of combustion chips away at the lands, not the pressure in the cylinder. and thats only if the piston/rings is not properly fitted to the cylinder bore, if its too loose or too tight problems will occur
@revenge2269 Because, you can plant more weight on the tires that are propelling the car...The 1000+ awd eclipses would only bias 25% power to front tires upon launch and or more on launch and less down track once they were sprung forward ...good rwd drag cars have a spring propelled launch with suspension, stallconverters, and "spring forward" with all the weight on the drive wheels ...But AWD you can just dial in the amount of power between all four tires wich is a great setup!
I think a new style transmission and rear differential combined with larger tires would be AWESOME.... and like you said, the longer gears are a must. This car should be taken out once a month to get the times down where they should be; but the car gets raced twice a year, lol..... what a fan-bummer. How can ANYONE expect to dial in the driving of such a crazy car without driving it?????????? ..... Get on that 8.42 AMS!! How long has it been since the 8.42?? ..lol
i was never smart enough to wear a respirator in the dyno room, but had we semi decent ventilation. i was more worried about getting hit by chunks of tire and cars coming unstrapped than i was of the fumes ;)
either way anything you wanna call it... its not going to hurt the ring lands 1st, MIGHT chip the top land a little after the ring gets toasted but thats bout it. itll bend the rods, beat the bearings out, or crack a piston first.
To be honest Drag is the Past the future is Drifting, Autocross, WRC, and Circuit. Drag Racing is always gonna be fun to watch but It will never be as popular as other forms of motor sports.
the piston is thinest at the dome, if it has a me at least. its always thicker on the outside edge where all the webbing is. and having the center of the pison being beat downwords would make the ring grooves become wider not narrower. and aluminum does chip/ be eaten away, everything does. ring land width has NOTHING to do with ring end gap, that is just the length of the ring. and if you see "aluminum spray" thiers something serioulsly wrong
That is wrong, their time attack car which is around 600whp and is beat on just as bad is the same motor over the past 2 years. They make the power and they make it reliable.
This is a world record for an EVO CAR!. Out of all the evo's in the world, this is the fastes EVO out of all EVO's ONLY. However, it is NOT the fastest car in the whole world in general, but for EVO's only...
don't see how this is the world record down here in new zealand the speedtech motorsport evo 3 made 1160 AWHP bout 3-4 years ago...AND runs 8.23 @ 289kph (179mph) down the quarter... and i think after that an aussie evo 2 ran a 8.07 @ 176mph.
Mean car but sorry to say us Kiwis from New Zealand are building one which will rip this one and will take our title back for the worlds fastest Evo, we already have the worlds fastest skyline and Celica cant wait to claim the evo title.
the "dome" can also be called a face too. you originally said the skirt only holds the piston straight, then said it does nothing... with out the skirt the piston wouldn't hold psi for long. you sir are a walking contradiction, while the "dome" does one thing, acts as surface area for combustion. and the outside edge does oil control, combustion control, keeps the piston straight, cools the piston, picks up oil from the sump and even holds the piston on..... count em
@wapitiman100 AWD can dial in a spectacular launch but then they need to bias most or all power to rear once they get going ....that would be superior on the street, because RWD drag cars break loose on street and are seconds slower than they would be at the track...AWD on STREET will be more consistant with more varying road conditions... Factory stock muscle imports like the EVO or even domestics like the similar dodge neon SRT-4s and such , require a finess at the dragstrip.
thiers a company ( im not sure of thier name right off hand) that builds 1600+ hp v8s, that run on pump gas, without nos... WAY more power then anyone would ever need! lol
lol yeah im fine, that was 7 years or ago or so since i had one come off. most of the cars in these vids arent strapped down right. 2 straps should be crossed and if you only use two they def need to be cross strapped. then i use 2 more straight just as back ups. also i tighten them down to where i can stand on the straps with no movement or slack in the strap. if i can push it down with my weight they are too loose!!!! ask any trucker how to secure a load and they will say cross chain!
im not saying anything bad about ur comment, im just saying its a 4banger with a bored out 2.0L, u cant put it into the same category as a big block you know..
dude i got my evo tuned at the one in west chicago i got a evo9se ams down pipe test pipe flash stage 2 clutch, no cat,intake boost control, at 20.5 psi its pretty fun to drive but i dont have a camera to post the video up of it i will soon
I wonder if AMS knows what the air intake TEMPS are on an 100% factory stock evo?? then factory stock with only upgraded intercooler?? and then on their drag evo, when they switched from their big air2air, to the new air2water?? would be cool to know..
i wouldnt say any engine making this power is unreliable. we commonly build cars with 1000+hp and they on average get 2-3 years out of the motors before needing a rebuild. and we drive them alot more than most "race" cars since they are sand cars... we drive all over the dunes/desert jump shit and have a good ole time. id say any gas engine with this much boost would be unreliable is more accurate. our 1200hp ls1 runs 2 t88's at about 15psi, you can drive it all day long, every day.
Are you going to start running every day, then? I hope to have my car go fast, but I don't think I need to be that fast. ... I'm just playin' with you :-D
i love the exhaust, its just pure fire flowing from the turbo
that guy tuning the car is a genius...he tuned my car and it rips Z06 Corvettes to pieces with ease.
the guy who builds them is steve morris of steve morris racing engines.
they are expensive (obviously) procharged engines, his "street" (street legal at least) caprice has 1740hp on pump gas. he also sells alcohol engines with more power
Dude the guy that is tuning is chris! He tuned my suby as well and omg it is fantastic now. I'm running at 22psi and no complaints!
damn this thing is INSANE look at the flame coming out of the turbo pipe at 48 sec...that thing is packin heat. this is just nuts, i couldn't even imagine all that coming out of a 4 cylinder with only 2 liters
knock is when something is loose and metal to metal contact occures, making a knocking noise... sounds just like someone hitting the block with a hammer... a detonation is when the heat starts combustion before the piston is at tdc, before the plug sparks... also causing backfiring, and damage to the crank, rods, bearings, rings ect. its not usual for the lands to be damaged
I'm pretty sure no one would fuck with AMS. They make great parts for Evolution 8 and 9 but it is pricey, yet you're getting for what you pay and this is a good answer for that statement.
Full boost RESPECT... from 4G63 tuner & racer in Jakarta, Indonesia
Exhaust experiment for FREE!
Next time you go to a restaurant and get a straw, try to breathe through it. Next, cut off a 1 inch piece and try breathing through it instead.
The same applies to exhaust on cars. Why are exhaust systems normally from front to back? To fit all the emissions gunk, to quiet the noise, and to give sufficient backpressure.
With performance turbos, however, the sooner and quicker you get exhaust to the turbo, and air from the turbo to intake, the better.
no its called a knock sensor and it measures knock aka preignition. look at an ems software sometime. knock is not the temp the fuel is ignited, or burnt. its uncontrolled flame front in the combustion chamber. basically the spark starts one flame, the latent heat and compression start another and the flame fronts collide causing knock/detonation. this is what sounds like rocks in a can to some. it also destroys the ring lands and beats piston domes to death. im not asking for your opinion.
correction. that motor made 2,108rwhp at 41psi. 1,781rwhp at 26psi. and it has twin 74mm turbo's. 1/4 mile 7.81 at 182mph. and thats at 26psi.
NICE JOB AMS. I USE UR PARTS AND IM AT 953.19 AWHP 597.03 FPT. 1/4 MILE AT 8.95 ET AT 172 MPH THANKS FOR THE GOOD WORK KEEP IT UP
APC is quicker, but the two cannot be compared. APC is a full tube chassis car where AMS drag car is still factory chassis with factory mounted suspension location.
No they use high octane fuel because it is more resistance to detonating so they can add more boost and more timing.
we have a 572 cobra jet motor in our shop that makes about 900hp on pump fuel, and when setup for good fuel will make roughly 1500hp or so. yet the point being it has to run lower compression pistons for the pump gas setup that limits its overall output. you are not going to get much more output without boost. and anyone that knows will tell you making it bigger isnt really going to help, larger bore = more chance/likelyhood for detonation
damn i wish the audio wasn't taken out. fuck, i've never seen the piping on any car get red hot like that.. gorgeous.
AMS does NOT use methanol!!! It was mostly a joke, but the exhaust is upfront and the dyno room's exhaust system is in the rear by the door. Plus when you first start tunning, you start on the rich side to be safe. Plus can you imagine how much fuel is being burned in that small of a time making that power? Crazy sheet.
Dude that is sick. 4 cylinders!! EVO 4 life.
@ 1:01 ....love how that turbo part glows red hot!!! XD~
I believe you can state in the video description: " I do not own the rights to the song in this video". I'm not sure if it will work, but we want to hear the engine!
people don't so much "race" against the AMS team, as simply give them a reason not to lose the rear-view mirror.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ! SOUND AGAIN ! one the most epic videos ive ever seen when i started searching..
the rings have such a small surface area, the pressure of even say 10000 psi would equal like a 100 pounds pressing on it, the ring lands get hurt by blowby, the heat of combustion chips away at the lands, not the pressure in the cylinder. and thats only if the piston/rings is not properly fitted to the cylinder bore, if its too loose or too tight problems will occur
what a beaut, look at her blowin fire on the dyno
Awesome vid and numbers. Wow, looks like the diffs can't even keep up with that kind of power. What's with the gas mask?
@revenge2269 Because, you can plant more weight on the tires that are propelling the car...The 1000+ awd eclipses would only bias 25% power to front tires upon launch and or more on launch and less down track once they were sprung forward ...good rwd drag cars have a spring propelled launch with suspension, stallconverters, and "spring forward" with all the weight on the drive wheels ...But AWD you can just dial in the amount of power between all four tires wich is a great setup!
crap that evo almost flew off that dyno, AWESOME!!
I think a new style transmission and rear differential combined with larger tires would be AWESOME.... and like you said, the longer gears are a must.
This car should be taken out once a month to get the times down where they should be; but the car gets raced twice a year, lol..... what a fan-bummer.
How can ANYONE expect to dial in the driving of such a crazy car without driving it?????????? ..... Get on that 8.42 AMS!! How long has it been since the 8.42?? ..lol
i was never smart enough to wear a respirator in the dyno room, but had we semi decent ventilation. i was more worried about getting hit by chunks of tire and cars coming unstrapped than i was of the fumes ;)
either way anything you wanna call it... its not going to hurt the ring lands 1st, MIGHT chip the top land a little after the ring gets toasted but thats bout it. itll bend the rods, beat the bearings out, or crack a piston first.
its on VP Import. look at the info box
Not a Mitsubishi lover, I personally own a Supra, but if I ever have the chance to get my hands in another high power car it will defenetly be a evo
To be honest Drag is the Past the future is Drifting, Autocross, WRC, and Circuit. Drag Racing is always gonna be fun to watch but It will never be as popular as other forms of motor sports.
Hell yeah cant wait to see it on the track, sounds freaking mean.
Is this still 2.0L? If so, that is like 255 hp per .5L cylinder/piston. Impressive to say the least, FIVE stars!
Id love to hear that thing spool up in real life! Imagine a drive down to the shops and back, lol!
haha, thats sick, can't wait to see that beast in action. same guy tuned my car.
Good God, that Evo is fucking fast.
4 banger? This thing will eat your drag muscle.
that turbo sounds hot
way to go!!!! huh, that is one sick evo :D
congrats!!!!
Very nice job tuning the car
1130 AWHP out of 2.0 Liter. Unbelievably...crazy goodness=)
the piston is thinest at the dome, if it has a me at least. its always thicker on the outside edge where all the webbing is. and having the center of the pison being beat downwords would make the ring grooves become wider not narrower. and aluminum does chip/ be eaten away, everything does.
ring land width has NOTHING to do with ring end gap, that is just the length of the ring. and if you see "aluminum spray" thiers something serioulsly wrong
That is wrong, their time attack car which is around 600whp and is beat on just as bad is the same motor over the past 2 years. They make the power and they make it reliable.
I've seen their video walk though of the shop, place is amazing. parts are expensive as hell though, but you get what you pay for
This is a world record for an EVO CAR!. Out of all the evo's in the world, this is the fastes EVO out of all EVO's ONLY. However, it is NOT the fastest car in the whole world in general, but for EVO's only...
i believe 100 octane pump gas. but that was their import tuner evo build. that made 1000+ hp at the crack. so maybe race fuel.
That thing is violent man! SWEET!
This is NOT a car. This is a MONSTER
don't see how this is the world record down here in new zealand the speedtech motorsport evo 3 made 1160 AWHP bout 3-4 years ago...AND runs 8.23 @ 289kph (179mph) down the quarter... and i think after that an aussie evo 2 ran a 8.07 @ 176mph.
disgustingly beautiful
You understand those times arn't with the 1130hp car, right? Those times are from the earlier build.
that shit is about to slip off the dyno...
crazy power!!!!
yup it is, it means all wheel hp because it has 4 wheel drive
Shame on youtube. First commercials to things WE post then blocking audio that we most likely paid for to use in our videos. >:/
The mask looks like it was for the exhaust stench and the burning rubber from all fours. That thing sounds f#cking violent! Crazy $hit!
damn AMS is doing way too much with that evo LOL crazy love it
shit i just got chills all over my body when dyno starts GOD DAMN fast
Mean car but sorry to say us Kiwis from New Zealand are building one which will rip this one and will take our title back for the worlds fastest Evo, we already have the worlds fastest skyline and Celica cant wait to claim the evo title.
the hell?? it spits straight fire down that exhaust,
i had chills the whole video :]
FWIW. It's STP corrected not STD corrected. :)
its not a world record only for a evo it is cause the skyline has a 1200 AWHP and if you can find the video it jumps off the dyno test
Thanks for correcting that
cheers
the "dome" can also be called a face too. you originally said the skirt only holds the piston straight, then said it does nothing... with out the skirt the piston wouldn't hold psi for long.
you sir are a walking contradiction, while the "dome" does one thing, acts as surface area for combustion. and the outside edge does oil control, combustion control, keeps the piston straight, cools the piston, picks up oil from the sump and even holds the piston on..... count em
@wapitiman100 AWD can dial in a spectacular launch but then they need to bias most or all power to rear once they get going ....that would be superior on the street, because RWD drag cars break loose on street and are seconds slower than they would be at the track...AWD on STREET will be more consistant with more varying road conditions...
Factory stock muscle imports like the EVO or even domestics like the similar dodge neon SRT-4s and such , require a finess at the dragstrip.
if i had that car I wouldn't even need to work. I would just street race against v8's for a living.
thiers a company ( im not sure of thier name right off hand) that builds 1600+ hp v8s, that run on pump gas, without nos... WAY more power then anyone would ever need! lol
lol yeah im fine, that was 7 years or ago or so since i had one come off. most of the cars in these vids arent strapped down right. 2 straps should be crossed and if you only use two they def need to be cross strapped. then i use 2 more straight just as back ups. also i tighten them down to where i can stand on the straps with no movement or slack in the strap. if i can push it down with my weight they are too loose!!!! ask any trucker how to secure a load and they will say cross chain!
im not saying anything bad about ur comment, im just saying its a 4banger with a bored out 2.0L, u cant put it into the same category as a big block you know..
OWNED
dude i got my evo tuned at the one in west chicago i got a evo9se ams down pipe test pipe flash stage 2 clutch, no cat,intake boost control, at 20.5 psi its pretty fun to drive but i dont have a camera to post the video up of it i will soon
Fuckin' WMG.... It's not like they're selling the damn song! But who knew they produces the sound of an EVO!
RIDICULOUSLY FAST!
I wonder if AMS knows what the air intake TEMPS are on an 100% factory stock evo??
then factory stock with only upgraded intercooler??
and then on their drag evo, when they switched from their big air2air, to the new air2water??
would be cool to know..
I hope that the EVO will be more faster.
now that's power, anyone can do that with a v8 but with a 4 banger. its just more fun to play with.
THAT AINT A CAR THATS A JET!! Goddamn
Yo you can get the audio back. Just search on RUclips on how to do to it. It's pretty straight forwardd
fuck the haters. Great job ASM with this car. I heard about it on 8thcivic. SHit is a beast.
CF bonnet going crazy..
im amazed that beast doesnt snap the dyno straps lol sick car i got a evo 9 and it would get its ass kicked by this one
I make sure that the EVO can faster than Farries and Poches
Congrats!
thats bananas! so much power!!
how many lbs. of boost? This thing is just insane...i would be scared to drive it.
there's power loss in the powertrain so if it is 1130 on the wheels it would be probly over 1300bhp engine hp
This is a nice video for the deaf. When will you people stop putting copyrighted music over your videos. WE JUST WANT TO HEAR THE CARS ANYWAY!!!
I'm pretty sure that this car by AMS is a 2.1 liter and not a 2.0
Not sure if this is more powerful than the APC evo but the APC evo is definately quicker...Congrats to AMS tho..evo all the way
oh sorry my bad. really fast car I have to admit. I own a X, but this 8 is a monster !
Yes it is!
ROFL I dont mean Gallons per Mile :) Check on wikipedia org :) Its miles per gallon
just tube front end...but i'm prettty sure the speedtech evo 3 didn't run a stroker kit.
i wouldnt say any engine making this power is unreliable. we commonly build cars with 1000+hp and they on average get 2-3 years out of the motors before needing a rebuild. and we drive them alot more than most "race" cars since they are sand cars... we drive all over the dunes/desert jump shit and have a good ole time. id say any gas engine with this much boost would be unreliable is more accurate. our 1200hp ls1 runs 2 t88's at about 15psi, you can drive it all day long, every day.
you guys should look into some dynopacs they just bolt on to ya hubs and ya done no strapping down
what is the time slip? all it said is 117 mph trapped. what is the quarter mile time
crazy horsepower for a 4 banger
@eeeen321 why dont you pay their way to race and for any damages caused during said race, I am sure they would be up for it.
love that evo!
Are you going to start running every day, then? I hope to have my car go fast, but I don't think I need to be that fast.
... I'm just playin' with you :-D