*HAY! If you guys are really lookin' to get THEE MOST out of your matched grip...and you should be!...Make sure you check out this video, man. I promise these tips will make a huge difference! Oh...and HAPPY CANADA DAY to all my fellow Canadians! 🎉🇨🇦❤️🇨🇦❤️🇨🇦🎉
Thanks Boss! I've become such a better drummer watching your vids lately, so thanks for that too! :) Edit: The middle finger fulcrum should be standard in all textbooks going forward. wow.
Studied Moeller for two years at uni and had a lesson from Jim Chapin. Been through all the minor adjustments hands on. It's all part of the journey! Good hands and technique set you up for a life of injury free playing. My pad lives next to me on the sofa. Best practice tool ever!
Hi Rob, greetings from a rainy Scotland. Really appreciate all the efforts you put into your teaching. I don't get the time I used to on the drums, but I love watching your videos and trying out some of the techniques, it's helped me no end. As a very casual drummer🙂 I'm desperately missing the few opportunities to play live, and with other folk at the moment, so for you professional musicians it must be hell. I just wanted to say even though we are in this horrible situation, your talent (and hard work) is still bringing joy to those who watch, and hopefully we'll get back to something like normal soon. Thanks man👊 Steve
Hi Rob! I changed my grip last night from index and thumb to middle finger and thumb and I can tell a huge difference in my finger control. I'm excited about starting over at almost 50 and playing correctly moving forward. Take care man! Peace and love to you and all!
This video came out 5 minutes ago and I had sticks near me. Tried the middle finger as the fulcrum and the sticks don't slip anymore. 5 minutes just solved months worth of struggles
Wow, this was a life saver for me. Putting the fulcrum on the middle finger felt a lot like the fulcrum on traditional grip. The snap and control of traditional always seemed to be lacking in my matched grip, when I switched over the left hand to matched, it felt like a club instead of the control of traditional. Huge thanks :)
@@cszetela1 of course it didn't feel comfortable. Most of us are ingrained to using index fulcrum. Switching to middle finger fulcrum is going to be uncomfortable at first
On second reading, that sounded very condescending which was NOT how I heard it in my head when I typed it. Please don't take it that way CSZ.. I meant it to be supportive.
Love your videos Rob! I can always take away something practical that REALLY makes a difference! Thanks for making videos for those of us who like things plain and simple!
Weckl grip with moeller method works great! Takes your fulcrum and moves it to the middle finger, and pressure off your forefinger; forcing you to use all your back 3 fingers for stability and micro movements with fine touch. Can also bring the stick way further back, for more velocity and rebound. I used to have a bad habit of only using my fulcrum for rolls before I knew any better, and my doubles/rolls were crap. As soon as I switched to the Weckl grip and learned to use wrist and fingers in conjunction, I saw immediate improvement. Great demonstration and explanations, Rob! We all appreciate your lessons very much! God bless! 🥁❤🥁
@@janetremsing6988 yeah, I've checked that out too. Haven't learned it well though. We call it the "drop/pickup" at the academy I go to. We refer to open versus closed strokes, for open versus multibounce/moeller here. Happy drumming!
Very precisely describe sir ..every drummer encounter this kind of problems ...they all need to do check out ur videos its really helpful ...love frm india
Thanks for this Rob just what I needed as I'm working on my matched grip and getting my weak right hand up to speed. Got a question for you...as well as the four areas you've outlined for me I found that I've also had to work on strenghtening the thumb area as well as lifting the wrist. Is this another area of just part of the wrist strengthening?
Everytime Everytime I see one of your videos I get something that's 💯 💯🔥💯 better than what I was doing sone as I try it as soon as I try it man thanks so much ❤️👍😎 just got a ludwick double kick (3) mounted Tom's floor Tom (3)zildigan cimbels thanks man please keep doing what you're doing God bless
great video, thanks! Gonna try out that pinky thing … I think I don’t really use it so far. Only as a kind of backup to support the other fingers. The fulcrum thing is awesome! I switched to the middle finger a year or two ago and it feels so much better.
Hey man, appreciate all the tips and tutorial vids! I'm currently trying to switch fulcrum from index to 3rd finger. You said the index becomes unemployed, but notice when you're playing, often you still wrap the index around the stick. Just wondering if it's at particular points you do that? Like swapping from wrists to fingers or going into doubles or what? Thanks again :)
My other question about the fulcrum change... since I've always used index, my 3rd finger was always involved in finger work along with ring and pinky... when I hold the stick with 3rd finger as fulcrum, it automatically wants to help with fingers for doubles and quick singles... should it still work in this way or should it purely be for supporting the stick?
Thanks for the relax relax relax. It's so soothing. There's nothing above shoulder height for me, mate. The titanium ribcage no longer allows for it. This kind of sensitivity training gives me a bit more time at the kit. And my "Say it with Sticks" hoodie arrived here in Australia very quickly. Thank you. Be well
Hello sir. I am an advanced player, and you may have seen some of my youtubes. You and l disagree on philosophies occasionally, but all of your lessons are good. l enjoy watching all of them.
This video is exciting for me. I was taught matched grip by my high school teacher. Mr. B. Lampe. ( not real name) Im a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to how things sound to me. Therefore, i starting working very hard on doing some things with my matched grip in my own time, on the field, to make my strokes sound perfect. I thought it was wrong and i cheated the system because on occasion i would switch my stroke to using my shoulder and elbow. I was shy so i never asked if this was acceptable stroking or not. It just felt right. I would switch the position of my wrists and fingers to get more speed A.K.A. american grip. I was told there was three grips and none of them said anything about american grip. I wondered why I was far more meticulous than any other drummer when it came to positioning of my set. I didn't understand why.. This is because i was too focused on what I THOUGHT I had to do to drum and not what I FELT I had to do. He made me aware he was one of the best drummers he has ever taught. That being said.... You remind me of my teacher because he was the most musically knowledgeable person i have met in my life. Not to undermine him because he really is. He has critiqued many competitions and even judges. He has taken highschoolers to some serious heights. His tips changed me and his teaching methods changed me as well. He had 45 minutes a day and 150 people to teach in high school. You are doing the same for me on my terms. I'm at home taking care of my mom and have had a week to play with my kit. Way too much to learn before I can put something professional together to post. That being said, I believe when you started this channel you hoped you could reach one person that needed you and will give credit to their success. I put in about 10 to 16 hours a day on what you tell me to do. Thank you for your lessons. They have changed the way i think about my music . During my rudimentary rudiment training i happen across some fun ways to practice because of the way you practice. Thanks to your teachings and my past I am excited for my future. Thank you Dr. Brown. You have cured me!
Because my R hand is so much more developed from life of use, the first finger fulcrum really works. However on my left hands the middle finger fulcrum allows for more control because I can keep my back fingers around the stick more often
Hey, do you hit that crash that's far right in our view? Or did you just move it out of the way of the camera for the purposes of making the video? That seems like it would be quite a stretch. Thanks!
Thanks for the great video. Your discussion of using all of the different types of match grip reminds me of Bruce Lee: the best style is no style, become like water!
Tradional guy but im gonna give the match for fun for three weeks ,course unlike you my friend, I dont care about the drumming community says. Ill give it a shot but Im an Old dog 66yrs old dog come July 7th. Rob you know I been with you for a long while , so Ill let you know.Hope your well and family too, We in Florida are catching some shit. Meantime stay well!
Now I'm going to have to nreak down my finger technique to see if I'm naturally moving the fulcrum to the middle finger. During fast ride work the stick tends to feel REALLY LOOSE and I suspect this is why. Also the pinkie is actively involved "most of the time". No dangle at least. Lol.
My relaxation only comes after highly stressful practicing. Ha! My unpro tip to deal with frustration not getting it yet? don't throw sticks at the wall, they usually bounce back at your own head.
Here's a thing about the pinkie. I have a really hard time utilizing my pinkie, because it's too short. My palms are big, but my fingers are short. So my pinkie just can't follow or really do anything of quality to the stick. I've tried to incorperate my pinkie many times, but It's no use. My hands aren't genetically built to be able to learn a really really good technique. I've been playing drums for about 33 years, and my technique isn't bad, but it's not very good either. Of corse I'll never reach your level, but I do consider my technique to be better than my actual playing.
*HAY! If you guys are really lookin' to get THEE MOST out of your matched grip...and you should be!...Make sure you check out this video, man. I promise these tips will make a huge difference! Oh...and HAPPY CANADA DAY to all my fellow Canadians! 🎉🇨🇦❤️🇨🇦❤️🇨🇦🎉
Love from Vancouver!! Love u bro!!🔥🔥
I've learned alot from your videos. Thank you.
Thanks Boss! I've become such a better drummer watching your vids lately, so thanks for that too! :)
Edit: The middle finger fulcrum should be standard in all textbooks going forward. wow.
Rob Brown 🙂 Happy Canada Day to all you hosers, eh!! 👍🙂
Awesome video once again! Can you make the "clapping on 1 and 3" shirt available as a men's comfort tee instead of classic? I want it!
Thanks for reminding me about the snack! Sometimes i get caught up in my playing and forget to eat.
Studied Moeller for two years at uni and had a lesson from Jim Chapin. Been through all the minor adjustments hands on. It's all part of the journey!
Good hands and technique set you up for a life of injury free playing. My pad lives next to me on the sofa. Best practice tool ever!
Always enjoy your channel...smooth calm and your a good teacher.
Hi Rob, greetings from a rainy Scotland. Really appreciate all the efforts you put into your teaching. I don't get the time I used to on the drums, but I love watching your videos and trying out some of the techniques, it's helped me no end.
As a very casual drummer🙂 I'm desperately missing the few opportunities to play live, and with other folk at the moment, so for you professional musicians it must be hell. I just wanted to say even though we are in this horrible situation, your talent (and hard work) is still bringing joy to those who watch, and hopefully we'll get back to something like normal soon. Thanks man👊
Steve
Kind words, man. Thanks much 🙂🙏🏽
Great tips as usual! Appreciate the gear analogy and movement of fulcrum!
Hi Rob! I changed my grip last night from index and thumb to middle finger and thumb and I can tell a huge difference in my finger control. I'm excited about starting over at almost 50 and playing correctly moving forward. Take care man! Peace and love to you and all!
Best drumming teacher on youtube.
This video came out 5 minutes ago and I had sticks near me. Tried the middle finger as the fulcrum and the sticks don't slip anymore. 5 minutes just solved months worth of struggles
Crazy, ain’t it? 👌🏽
jamessullenriot I tried the middle finger fulcrum and it did not feel comfortable.
Wow, this was a life saver for me. Putting the fulcrum on the middle finger felt a lot like the fulcrum on traditional grip. The snap and control of traditional always seemed to be lacking in my matched grip, when I switched over the left hand to matched, it felt like a club instead of the control of traditional. Huge thanks :)
@@cszetela1 of course it didn't feel comfortable. Most of us are ingrained to using index fulcrum. Switching to middle finger fulcrum is going to be uncomfortable at first
On second reading, that sounded very condescending which was NOT how I heard it in my head when I typed it. Please don't take it that way CSZ.. I meant it to be supportive.
Love your videos Rob! I can always take away something practical that REALLY makes a difference! Thanks for making videos for those of us who like things plain and simple!
Wow, do I dig this guy. Awesome teacher.
Weckl grip with moeller method works great! Takes your fulcrum and moves it to the middle finger, and pressure off your forefinger; forcing you to use all your back 3 fingers for stability and micro movements with fine touch. Can also bring the stick way further back, for more velocity and rebound. I used to have a bad habit of only using my fulcrum for rolls before I knew any better, and my doubles/rolls were crap. As soon as I switched to the Weckl grip and learned to use wrist and fingers in conjunction, I saw immediate improvement. Great demonstration and explanations, Rob! We all appreciate your lessons very much! God bless! 🥁❤🥁
BLĀKE Ň Hey! You should check out Gordy Knudtson's "Open/Close technique, pretty awesome! 👍🙂
@@janetremsing6988 yeah, I've checked that out too. Haven't learned it well though. We call it the "drop/pickup" at the academy I go to. We refer to open versus closed strokes, for open versus multibounce/moeller here. Happy drumming!
BLĀKE Ň Thanks man! 🙂
BLĀKE Ň You too man! 🙂
"I'll take it to the DIRT!" = subbed :)
Nice tips bro! Keep posting! PS. That snare sounds killer!
Very precisely describe sir ..every drummer encounter this kind of problems ...they all need to do check out ur videos its really helpful ...love frm india
Thanks for this Rob just what I needed as I'm working on my matched grip and getting my weak right hand up to speed. Got a question for you...as well as the four areas you've outlined for me I found that I've also had to work on strenghtening the thumb area as well as lifting the wrist. Is this another area of just part of the wrist strengthening?
Happy Canada Day Rob. Tks
Another great video Bro. Rob. Thanks for the information. Peace and Blessings 🙏
You Are Great Man.
Everytime Everytime I see one of your videos I get something that's 💯 💯🔥💯 better than what I was doing sone as I try it as soon as I try it man thanks so much ❤️👍😎 just got a ludwick double kick (3) mounted Tom's floor Tom (3)zildigan cimbels thanks man please keep doing what you're doing God bless
Great tips my brother. I am glad I subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to more videos
Good stuff Rob. I enjoy your channel.
Ik he didn't come up with is but "learn it so that you can forget it" is a great line
👍 Dude! Your snare sounds fantastic!! 🙂
TRUST me 😍
great video, thanks! Gonna try out that pinky thing … I think I don’t really use it so far. Only as a kind of backup to support the other fingers. The fulcrum thing is awesome! I switched to the middle finger a year or two ago and it feels so much better.
RobBrown OP
Hey man, appreciate all the tips and tutorial vids! I'm currently trying to switch fulcrum from index to 3rd finger. You said the index becomes unemployed, but notice when you're playing, often you still wrap the index around the stick. Just wondering if it's at particular points you do that? Like swapping from wrists to fingers or going into doubles or what? Thanks again :)
My other question about the fulcrum change... since I've always used index, my 3rd finger was always involved in finger work along with ring and pinky... when I hold the stick with 3rd finger as fulcrum, it automatically wants to help with fingers for doubles and quick singles... should it still work in this way or should it purely be for supporting the stick?
Thanks for the relax relax relax. It's so soothing. There's nothing above shoulder height for me, mate. The titanium ribcage no longer allows for it. This kind of sensitivity training gives me a bit more time at the kit. And my "Say it with Sticks" hoodie arrived here in Australia very quickly. Thank you. Be well
That’s good to know, man. Glad to hear they’re on the ball down there. Thanks for supporting! 👊🏽🙂
Dude your awesome 😎
This is great
Hello sir. I am an advanced player, and you may have seen some of my youtubes. You and l disagree on philosophies occasionally, but all of your lessons are good. l enjoy watching all of them.
This video is exciting for me. I was taught matched grip by my high school teacher. Mr. B. Lampe. ( not real name) Im a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to how things sound to me. Therefore, i starting working very hard on doing some things with my matched grip in my own time, on the field, to make my strokes sound perfect. I thought it was wrong and i cheated the system because on occasion i would switch my stroke to using my shoulder and elbow. I was shy so i never asked if this was acceptable stroking or not. It just felt right. I would switch the position of my wrists and fingers to get more speed A.K.A. american grip. I was told there was three grips and none of them said anything about american grip. I wondered why I was far more meticulous than any other drummer when it came to positioning of my set. I didn't understand why.. This is because i was too focused on what I THOUGHT I had to do to drum and not what I FELT I had to do. He made me aware he was one of the best drummers he has ever taught. That being said.... You remind me of my teacher because he was the most musically knowledgeable person i have met in my life. Not to undermine him because he really is. He has critiqued many competitions and even judges. He has taken highschoolers to some serious heights. His tips changed me and his teaching methods changed me as well. He had 45 minutes a day and 150 people to teach in high school. You are doing the same for me on my terms. I'm at home taking care of my mom and have had a week to play with my kit. Way too much to learn before I can put something professional together to post. That being said, I believe when you started this channel you hoped you could reach one person that needed you and will give credit to their success. I put in about 10 to 16 hours a day on what you tell me to do. Thank you for your lessons. They have changed the way i think about my music . During my rudimentary rudiment training i happen across some fun ways to practice because of the way you practice. Thanks to your teachings and my past I am excited for my future. Thank you Dr. Brown. You have cured me!
Because my R hand is so much more developed from life of use, the first finger fulcrum really works. However on my left hands the middle finger fulcrum allows for more control because I can keep my back fingers around the stick more often
Hey, do you hit that crash that's far right in our view? Or did you just move it out of the way of the camera for the purposes of making the video? That seems like it would be quite a stretch. Thanks!
That thing gets all kinds of action over there. Flick of the wrist
3 "dislikes". I just can't imagine why! 👍 Go Rob!!! Excellent stuff!! 🙂
So are you still loving those Avantone mics?
Ima use these tips a lot more, now.
MOELLER METHOD! What do you think about the Open/Close method? ie: Gordy Knudtson?
Thanks for the great video. Your discussion of using all of the different types of match grip reminds me of Bruce Lee: the best style is no style, become like water!
brother, you made a vedio about yamaha ead 10. My drum sound is not good, if i use ead 10 to my drum, is it work well?
Hey Rob, any thoughts about Stewart Copeland's version of traditional grip?
It’s weird and I can’t do it
Rob Brown 🤣😁
@@RobBeatdownBrown Thanks man. ;)
Sound advice....as always
Tradional guy but im gonna give the match for fun for three weeks ,course unlike you my friend, I dont care about the drumming community says. Ill give it a shot but Im an Old dog 66yrs old dog come July 7th. Rob you know I been with you for a long while , so Ill let you know.Hope your well and family too, We in Florida are catching some shit. Meantime stay well!
Don’t forget to wash your hands after catching it
Now I'm going to have to nreak down my finger technique to see if I'm naturally moving the fulcrum to the middle finger. During fast ride work the stick tends to feel REALLY LOOSE and I suspect this is why. Also the pinkie is actively involved "most of the time". No dangle at least. Lol.
Bruh can u do a vid on middle fulcrum?
I’m a guitar player learning to play drums from this channel, amazing content. Love the attitude.
And happy Canada Day, eh?
My relaxation only comes after highly stressful practicing. Ha!
My unpro tip to deal with frustration not getting it yet? don't throw sticks at the wall, they usually bounce back at your own head.
7:30 careful I know someone who would actually do that lol
Ok grabbing snack :)
What did you get?
Developing my hands is not gonna break me!NOPE!!!I will not stop getting at it!Just watch!
Here's a thing about the pinkie. I have a really hard time utilizing my pinkie, because it's too short. My palms are big, but my fingers are short. So my pinkie just can't follow or really do anything of quality to the stick. I've tried to incorperate my pinkie many times, but It's no use. My hands aren't genetically built to be able to learn a really really good technique.
I've been playing drums for about 33 years, and my technique isn't bad, but it's not very good either.
Of corse I'll never reach your level, but I do consider my technique to be better than my actual playing.
Please write what you say. Thanks
You are the real alpha male
Snacks
Regor Mortis "Scooby-Snaks"? 🙂
Oh no...not the pinky
Sorry, but I play traditional grip, and since you returned to matched grip, some of your tutorials appear to be less useful for me.
Odysseus Laertiades Weckl likes to utilize both grips! 🙂
@@janetremsing6988 as did Peart. It's good to have multiple tools in your toolbox.!
First comment greeting!! And check out mi videos dude please