did Wilbur DIE in his FINALE on the Dream SMP? (Theories)
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If you have any other theories about Wilbur's Finale Stream, then drop them below!
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hi
Nice theory! lol
I do have a theory. The whole Utah thing is actually mocking fans, with all of our lore Expectations. It is also meant to harken back to the early days of the Dream SMP as well, with it being more funny and nonsense. So yeah, Utah is for comedic sakes
I don't even have a theory cause I don't watch the dreamsmp garbage 💀
Imagine Phil actually is going to be a villain though...
That would be interesting and probably funny
YOOOOOOO
VILZA
Don’t jinx it
Omg I hope not, although it would be pretty funny
in a story standpoint, it would makes sense, if the right puzzle pieces aligned.
Okay but do you remember in Fundy's or Quackity's lore stream where Quackity vist Fundy and it was just sand? Like ruins? Could that be it aswell?
potentially!
My theory is that Wilbur by travelling to Utah is actually in Season 2 already. So everyone is gonna have different characters but Wilbur is gonna be the same as Season 1. Would be a cool idea and could be why Wilbur isn’t going to do as much lore in Season 2, he has mentioned this before, as his character will already have lore. 🤷♀️
Just a theory!
I actually think this theory is more than plausible, my reason being that if wilbur really didn’t intend to make the ending about him dying (and, i should mention, not just dying on accident, he intentionally sailed off into a storm, to quote him, “i better get going because i don’t think i have much left of this storm”), then why would he write that part in eret’s book where he associated utah and the desert to a (good) afterlife (as opposed to the train station, a not so lovely place)? Why give people a reason to believe something when you don’t intend it to come into play? It’s chekhov’s gun again, you can’t not use it.
I think what really happened is wilbur killed himself in the finale, but instead of doing it like he did last time and making it all sad, he used this whole good afterlife utah thing to make it a good ending. Wilbur finally apologized to everyone and finally got peace.
And also i think this interpretation of the ending works really well with some other details form the stream like the poem Ozymandias with wilbur being Ozymandias, a statue of a long forgotten (and most importantly long dead) ruler, surrounded only by the ruins of his once great kingdom (lmanberg).
And the thing about this poem ending that works the best with this theory is the bit he adds after the poem, the part where he says “but i never did quite forgive myself”, a response to the part where tommy said that the person he should apologize to the most is himself. Wilbur apologized and wilbur didn’t forgive wilbur, so wilbur killed himself.
I don’t know, that’s how i see the ending. I think if you look at it this way, a lot of seemingly random and unexplainable things add up really nicely.
@@taniakallos1985 This is really well thought out. It definitely makes the ending seem more coherent and satisfying.
New theory: dsmp is an isekai anime
c/Wilbur is born & raised in irl utah
He worked at a gas station
got bored
sailed out to sea
got narnia'd to the dsmp
Simple as that exactly what he said on stream
ho...ho this would be funny :0
why...
Dream did say a DSMP got canceled...
@@averagegenzguy2751 idk if you’re talking about the server or the anime because the server isn’t canceled and the anime is still being worked on
I think when Wilbur writes that one day they will “all finally pass on” (2:03), I think it’s a metaphor for passing on from the server. In a sense, their character died in a metaphorical way because they left their character on the Dream SMP and are now ‘passing on’ to the real world.
This makes so much sense! It could very well be what Wilbur intended.
I'd like to think there's some deeper meaning behind this conclusion... But it's entirely possible that it's just a joke, and we're all part of Wilbur's experiment to see what the fans will do with this confusing ending.
it’s probably the second one
He choose Utah because it's funny, no-one who has even seen a photo of that place is excited to go there. I like to think that in the epilogue when hes in the desert cheering, it's because hes managed to escaped the smp (maybe once you've died and been revived it's possible to escape, or maybe the decades of limbo time allowed him to learn how). I dont know how it's going to tie into season 2, but I think taking Wilbur off the board is overall a good thing. Ffor season 2 to be it's own thing, a few of the main characters probably need to become ancilliary character's, and the ones with really complex lore could probably do with taking a backseat for a while to figure out what they want to drop and what they want to keep.
Real out there theory. What if DSMP Season 2 is actually SMP Earth Season 2, with DSMP style lore and all DSMP members. Also featuring some Live-Action lore segments in the actual locations IRL where the lore is set.
I'll be back here if this comes true
remind me if this is true cuz this is very unlikely
this theory is so cool! i love it
Sounds awesome
On Eret's note he references Ozymandias actually!
I love how Wilbur referenced Ozymandias in the finale stream, I feel like it describes his character well (a man who looked down on people, got too ambitious and too powerful, and ended up losing it all)
@@breadfrommars Yep
nice theory- but it’s terrifying in the story ngl
In my opinion after the season 1 finally it's going to be a huge irl meet up (or just my hoping)
Wilbur has been the most confusing character fr 😩🖤
But also one of the best except Techno‘s character lol
Ranboo was confusing for me as well.
Honestly i think that in dsmpS2 that dream could be the "good guy" and maybe Phil could be a dictator orrrrrr shlatt could be interested in lore again somehow idk
The Villager wonders why this stranger is waving his hand in the air (3:48)
fighting my demons
I am so sorry for what the air has to go through in your videos...
F for the air
I do have a theory, i shared it in your other video but i don't think you saw it so I'm sharing it again, hopefully you see it
i personally believe that this will not be the end for cwilbur cause i have a theory that i want to share
you see i don't think ccwilbur chose utah as a haha funny joke, i think he chose Utah specifically on purpose because Utah irl is right next to nevada
name sounds familiar? of course it does! "Las nevadas"
plus in the book he handed to eret he kept on mentioning a desert, now what is a place that's in a desert and cwilbur always kept reminding us that it's a desert in every opportunity he got?
Las nevadas!
plus i don't think him not being able to apologise to big q is gonna be unresolved just like that, there has to be something that comes after
so my conclusion of this all:
there's one more las nevdas stream left right? i personally believe that we might see wilbur again in it, the las nevadas stream is what will wrap it all together and it's gonna be the real ending we all anticipated and waited for
BUT HEY THAT'S JUST A THEORY, A DSMP THEORY
No
I thought that C U in UT was also Wilbur saying c*nt bc when it’s layer out like
C
U in
UT
If you look at the last letter of ‘in’ and ‘UT’ it literally says C*nt
Did NOONE SEE THE BRIGHT ORANGE FUR ON THE FLOOR IN THE DESERT???? like i don't believe that's randomly there
fundy maybe ? he was in a sandy desert looking area in that one las nevadas stream when quackity ‘recruited’ him
These definitely make sense
phil will kill wibur again 🥲🤣
To me it seems like Utah isn't a limbo, it's an afterlife. Limbo is traditionally the place between life and death, I think that since Wilbur finished all his goals and made peace he was finally able to go to the full afterlife, being Utah for some reason
Just what I was thinking!
So everyone will die and the afterlife will be a desert?
Worse... Utah!
@@jeckjeck3119 OMEGALUL
well he’s said that it’s an allegory for death
Didn't Wilbur edit the poem "Ozymandias" to fit him as the king? And doesn't that poem take place in a desert wasteland? And didn't he mention the poem way back in the beginning of the server?
My friend and I have formed a crack theory pile to try to explain all this crap
Theory 1: run of the mill, just that Utah was a euphemism for the afterlife
THEORY 2: (this is where it goes off the rails) C!Wilbur was born and raised in Utah. Why was he british you ask? BECAUSE IN THIS ALTERNATE UNIVERSE the Americans lived in England, and oppressed the British, who lived in America. (Explains the accents and stuff)
Theory 2.B: Explaining why Wilbur liked sailing: California and Nevada had gotten climate-changed and drowned out of existence, so Utah was no longer a landlocked state
THEORY 3: Ok so we think that SMP Earth was where Wilbur went "home" to. This is based of f the fact that after wilbur joined the DSMP, he pretty much didn't log on to SMP earth again. He got called home to SMP Earth.
Theory 3.B: instead of swapped-role-revolution-thingy,, we just said because SMP Earth was mostly British, there were no Americans in this situation and the British have had America since forever.
omg i sound like i'm going crazy don't i
If he was from Utah it would mean he lied from the very beginning about making lmanburg for Europeans, thats why he's always felt so bad about what happened he was never telling the truth he never fit in and all it did was hurt people. That's why he can't forgive himself
first
Damn youre fast, i wish i was first.. wait-
first
amazing
That's what I keep saying!
I think C!Wilbur died in the stormy sea.
What if after you get "revived" you aren't actually alive again, you're back for the moment, to fix your wrongs, forgive yourself, etc
And if you dont, you go back to limbo
Cause i like to think limbo is a place you go if you have regrets.
And the desert (utah) is where you go if you forgive yourself, or no longer have any or at least close to no regrets left, and you can start anew in the afterlife.
In the desert.
Basically you get revived to fix your mistakes, and atone for them.
You aren't revived forever until you die again, you're revived for a certain amount of time depending on how much shit you did while you were alive and if you managed to get others to forgive you? Awesome, one step closer but what you really need to do is forgive yourself then you can pass on to the much more peaceful afterlife instead of the painful limbo.
I think he went through a portal. I feel like it's important that he sailed off into the sea in the direction of Foolish's summer home, it's the only real desert on the server (all others were terraformed) plus there was a storm at the time which can be connected to him. The summer home has frequent god activity with DreamXD + Callahan visiting often too. what if the area is so magically dense that a portal can open off the coast into another world?
I feel like your idea of Will having a new character will happen… I mean, Phil said that Techno was going to have a new character who loved government. Technoblade, the character was supposed to go on a vacation or something. So I think we might get a few new characters.
Wait did he actually go fly to Utah in real life or just went to a random desert?
he was in America a month or 2 ago for vidcon so i assume he got the footage then
@@KianKSG yep! it was then he got it! Shelby said she was the one who helped with the hair!
Anyone else when listening to Eret read the book think about Fundy’s vision of the desert waste land he saw once? Anyone else still waiting on that to go somewhere? (If it already has I’m so f**king behind.)
He said Utah was an anology of death in his latest Qsmp stream
no no no phil wouldn't, i think.
Probably wrong but what if Wilbur told Tommy because he knows Tommy will try to find him and meet him in Utah maybe bringing the rest of the server over and so new people shall discover the land aka the new characters
OH MY GOD AND HE SAID HE WAS BORN AND RAISED THERE- (WHICH MAKES SENSE IF HIS MOTHER IS THE GODDESS OF DEATH)
Nice video length
Plot twist: he died
Wilbur is NOT dead, i dunno how this is even a thought lmao
Wdym
if i’m honest him saying that he was going to Utah 100% has a deeper meaning than that. Think about it. Utah has literally no water around the country so how the hell is Wilbur gonna sail there. Second of all, he already said to “not trust the Americans” despite himself being canonically American, so he might have been lying about something. Third of all, on one of his QSMP streams he has literally described Utah to be an allegory for death, which weirdly fits perfectly. Also, at the cutscene where Wilbur is seen irl at “Utah” it seems kind of weird that he would act that way. We can see that Ranboo’s limbo includes a desert surrounded by water, and seeing that the train platform and the flooded world are the only confirmed limbos could indicate that that little cutscene wasn’t even close to being Utah. All that explains that Wilbur did not in fact go to Utah, but instead probably died in some way (aka dying via sewer slide)
Wilbur : makes a silly lore
Us fans : oh no you don't *starts making theories*
I also got a silly theory that since Wilbir sailed to the DSMP, he could've met Sally on the way and had Fundy
It would be so cool if "c u in ut" actually means that multiple people are gonna meet up for the finale in... utah, of all places
This feels like the finale of Lost.
I like to think that feel was a born in England and then move to Utah R to get married with his wife and that's why she has an american accent
about dam time or someone like Redza to show up
What if the “desert” is the aftermath of the event or the desert is las nevadas possibly
Could you maybe make another video where you explain the entire story?
Last one was a year ago, and now that season 1 is over I feel like that would be a great opportunity
will be trying to! not sure when it will come out but gonna start gathering info for it soon :D
Imagine all the SMP members start off season 2 in live action and then they go back into Minecraft
Yeah Utah is a bit like hell
I feel like when the world reset Wilbur's lore is gonna be like 4th wall breaks since I think Utah is a place where nothing gets reset, well why did we see c!Wilbur IRL?
Wilbur goes back to Utah, encounters a gamer, loses the fight and realizes a horrible truth:
He's not in the UK, in the USA.
Then the gamer knock him out and leaves him back behind the dumpsters.
Man ended the vid at 420!
had to 🥶
I just thought of something if C!Wilbur’s Mother is C!Kristin aka the goddess of death would that make C!Wilbur a demigod
4:20 min
maybe utah is wilburs personal afterlife
Wilbur clearly became self aware and ascended to the plane of existence known as earth
Not about Wilbur but, I really can see Tommy going into his villain arc (finally) after this
I see Tubbo or potentially Phil becoming a villain.
yes
Idea: Utah is where Wilbur was initially born in Utah but was put up for adoption by his og parents and Phil adopted Wilbur (this would also mean Wilbur has a secret brother) which is also going to result in Phil and Wilbur having a huge falling out because Wilbur would go to his og home instead of the area where people cared about him.
idk but kian i need to know
how wilbur got to utah
plane
@@KianKSG lol i ment in the game he kinda just poofed
ita a thing caled Magic ^^
when you said "at lest its not some thing worse" i said "yea like Ohio" THE Clock app has gotten me with the Ohio jokes
Wasn’t technoblades last build in a desert? The big castle where he wanted to make a new character,one in love whit democracy(i think).What if this desert makes the people opposite of What they and maybe the only one who will not change will be Wilbur cuz he already has ghostbur
3:48
hi
0:50 I live in Utah
Idk if this confirms it, but during the stream If you look at the description it says TW Suicide
Hi
Could be an arg doubt it tho
What if season 2 of the Dream SMP, starts or takes place in Utah.
wow
it's confirmed bois, season 2 is in utah.
Uta is his afterlife...
Alright, my little theory:
I think Wilbur will return, because as he left Tommy, he said something like: "Dont trust those Americans"
Now we know that Wilbur is from Utah, which is part of USA. So he pointed out not to trust him when he returns.
Its simple theory, but I think it makes sense.
cyberknife😭
Hmm yes dream smp lore moment 100
what if the thing dream was planning it all just end up being live action? actually.. i don't want to think about it
Kewl
The worst limbo out of all of them.
A M E R I C A
Remember when wilbur had the wish to kill friend? Well, at the end of Will's stream we see friend arrive limbo to join ghostbur. It guess he knew all along his destiny.
but conner died too and we didn't see him so i think we are gonna have some conner lore for once
but just a theory A LORE THEORY
Of all places why Utah. That is the last place you want to go
What’s wrong with Utah?
why am i so early
I dont really care about dsmp after we lost technoblade
What do you gain from saying things like this?
@@grins9882 exactly, like u could’ve went on with ur day with that comment kept to yourself but no ofc nott!!
we all miss techno, but we have to continue our life. i think techno would want us to do that.
@@elinehegrand5487 true
I swear if wilbur is dead i will lose my mind
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:)
kianlore?? watching valorant streamers 👀!
The funny thing is that wilbur is from utah he is america. Lol
...i wonder... Is this why tommy went to america?
WUT
Let's just... let go the dsmp... it's done good...
Lol I wanna be offended by utah being a worse limbo but ngl in some parts it's pretty bad XD
*So is this what they mean by 2022 is going to be the worst year ever?*
29th
HOW AM I NOT FIRST