Ranking Every Death in Game of Thrones
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Ranking every single death in HBO’s Game of Thrones on a rating scale of 1-10. This is obviously an extremely opinionated video, and the deaths aren’t rated on any concrete factors. All ratings given are based on a variety of factors from how cool they are, how impactful they are, what they mean for the characters involved, how emotional they are, etc.
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0:00 Intro
1:03 Season 1
4:33 Season 2
8:52 Season 3
14:02 Season 4
23:26 Season 5
32:09 Season 6
43:54 Season 7
48:38 Season 8
1:10:50 Outro
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I am sorry, but you litterally missed the first deaths
in season 1 you forgot the guy killed by jorah and you forget the guy killed by bronn.
Good you don’t deserve it
One thing I want to point out about yorys death that makes it a bit more impactful is that he has a scene earlier with Jamie where he's obviously fanboying him a bit. Your death coming from your idol being somewhat of a sinister end.
I'm not giving you money for a ranking video lmao.
The fact that Tyrwin died without dignity is kind of the point. To knock him down a peg before he was removed from the show. My opinion of course
Yup, it was exactly the point. For all his talk of doing anything to build his great legacy and family name, in the end he'll be remembered in Westeros as the man who died on the shitter - shot by his own son - and whose house crumbled into wreck and ruin tainted by incest and schemes. Only the son he loathed and who took his life, living on to carry the name. I mean, I love the character - mainly because of the actor - but he deserved to snuff it in an undignified way.
To be honest, while it's really not a flattering position to be found in, it's so convenient. Very much tmi, i know, usually someone will have to clean your last post mortem business. Tywin's final position is a win situation to whoever had to clean him xD
And it ties into the joke people said about Tywin, that he s#!t gold.
Tywin should be remembered as the man who destroyed his son while on the shitter and left a devastating mark after being shot
Yes but why there are ZERO guards????
I’m sorry but I’ll never stop raving about Tommen’s death. The impact that a literal CHILD decides he has nothing left after seeing the his wife die in an explosion in a city he’s supposed to protect. If he can’t even protect his wife and the people in his city how can he rule 7 kingdoms? And adding to the situation that his own mother was responsible for it. The way the scene is filmed where he walks away and the camera holds on the fiery sept, then he just comes out of the corner and jumps. A child king who killed himself out of grief and guilt! I’m sorry but I don’t think that gets enough credit
When this scene first aired, my friend and I literally thought the TV had froze because of the long shot of just the window. I literally reached for the TV remote to check if it truly had froze before suddenly Tommen walks on screen and straight out the window, making us both gasp in shock.
Tommen was a good kid and would've been a good king, like a legit good, honorable, and noble one out of a traditional fantasy story. But he was slapped into the middle of a den of corrupt and psychotic nobles. His own family using him as a puppet and destroying his kingdom and life to suit their own selfish and pointless means. The disgusting vipers, vultures, and monsters around him in Kings Landing and even Westeros as a whole was what killed him.
Well, that, and the fall from the top of the castle window, but I digress.
It’s probably one of my favorite scenes. He doesn’t hesitate, he’s not crying or freaking out. He just quickly walks to the edge and steps off. I can’t explain why I find it so fascinating.
@@uckbritley1305 that was one of the themes of the show that I really loved and thought was special. All these honorable characters, rob, edd, thomen, kept their morals and lost. In traditional stories of knights and kings the good “heroes” win because they are good and do the right there. Here that’s a detriment.
@@uckbritley1305 I think that would’ve made him a bad king though. He was already being influenced by his mother, then the high sparrow, then Marjorie….
Point is, he’s easily manipulated, and I don’t think that makes a good king in this universe. Not that we will ever find out.
Ned is a 10 for me as it genuinely made a lot of people stop watching and changed the whole game of thrones . Those of us who kept watching then realised we were watching something truly unique.
Who stopped watching because of it lmao what? If you get so attached to a character that you quit when they die, you need to watch CW shows or something.
Without neds death almost none of the storylines would have started
YES! I remember stop watching GOT after S1 finale and not continuing till season 8 was out
Ned's death blindsided me when I read the books (I haven't actually seen the show). I was going in basically blind so it was a real wake up call as to what kind of story it was.
I stopped watching when robb and cat stark died
I think you missed the first one. The watchman who was caught as a deserter because of the walkers and beheaded by Ned. Small character, but set the tone for the whole show until it went off the rails.
He didn't have a name tho, he said he was only listing dead named characters
@@Karlach_ every one has a name. Think his was said at the very beginning with the 2 other Nights Watch guys
@@billmoretz8718 I can't find it on Google
@@Karlach_I think his Name was Jared
@TheBoulderDislikesThatComment he did have a name, it was Will, Gared was the one who was killed by the white walkers that Will was running from (in the books these were reversed and Gared was the deserter and Will was killed by the white walkers)
I think what makes Barristan's death worse is how the actor read all the books and loved the story and was by far the most upset at how the writing turned.
Yo! So true. Ser Selmy Barristan deserved so much better than to be taken out like that. I loved him, and even though I hated Ser Jorah being outed by him just when he was reversing his misdeeds from the first season, I understood his reasons for doing so. Legally, he was right.
I loved Barristan... Because I love his simple but strict policies for chivalry and his utmost respect for his post... He was the greatest. This is from the books tho, iv read all the books and Barristan's badass walk out of the red keep in book one
So, a cursory glance at the wiki is enough proof that Barristan Selmy is a living legend that almost undermines the plot by how much of a Deus Ex Machina his entire career has been. It wouldn't be stretch to say that he was a competent knight at the age of 10, and legitimately the best knight in Westeros by the time he was 16. He was cutting down demons (Maelys Blackfyre) and rescuing a king from a castle like f*cking Mario in his twenties. I think it's fair to say that if Robert had encountered him at the Trident, he would've died and the course of the war might've been different.
Oh... so that's why it's called Kings Landing... you just killed me with that one 😂. On rewatch you will judge some things differently, because the show gives you a lot of clues on the ending but they are subtle. It's actually very much like Jamie to run back to Cersei, Daenerys to burn the city, Jon to struggle between loyalty and his ethics and the Hound caring for nothing but revenge on his brother. Even Arya killing the Ice King makes sense in terms of which character would actually have the necessary skill. But none of the choices in the series and the TV show are of the expected sort, that's what makes GoT so great. I guess not getting full 8 episodes due to budgetary limitations did make the final season less polished and some twists to abrupt. Still, it's one of the best shows ever made.
@@theperson8539 the thing about Barristan is that he was great at his job, but his job included protecting a madman committing martial rape on his own sister and burning people alive. While barristan was a beast and protected his king and held noble intentions, he failed to protect the innocent. This is partially why he then went out to look for Daenerys
viserys's death is like a 9, extremely ironic, brutal, shocking, and perfectly sets the tone for the whole show
One of my fav's. Didn't dawn on me though for awhile that gold shouldn't melt that easy...!
@@vladimirpoutine7522 gold does have a relatively low melting point, possibly not that low though.
@@punkoid76 Definitely not that low since I refine as a hobby. But it went over my head when I initially watched it.
The scene and the meaning of his death is definetely strong, but unlike some deaths of main characters(robb, littlefinger, even tywin), you could have surely seen his death coming, it was just a matter of time 😅
his takes on certain deaths are so fucking stupid
Out of every death in the show, Hodor was genuinely so sad, I had to sit there and think. I never cried to any other characters death.
For me it was him and jorah
Something I thought I'd add about Ygritte's death is that, to me, Olly being responsible is great thematically. Like, she doesn't get killed off because this is GOT and Jon can't have nice things, she dies because of consequences, a constant theme many characters die reinforcing. Ultimately yeah, she was being set up for a redemption arc, but massacring Olly's family and village in front of him (which I BELEIVE she was there for, not 100% tho) was one of if not the most brutal, awful things Wildlings do on screen, and so that coming back around to him being the one to shoot her just fits into the show so well thematically and adds another layer to her death. She has done some really terrible things in her time, and in typical GOT fashion, not everyone gets the chance to get a redemption arc.
She was there. In fact the attack starts off with her putting an arrow through the head of Olly’s father.
Imagine not including the most heartbreaking death in the entire show… the death of the wolves
@Roniixx clearly you're not animal lover
poor taste
It's more likely that he's not weirdly obsessive over fictional canines like so many in the fan base. Don't get me wrong, dogs are cool, but people act like they're gods.
@@itol2201 thank you. Took the words out of my mouth.
@@MadeleinesMadeleines imagine not caring about animal death
said about your mindset
@@itol2201 clearly you never care about your pet or maybe you never have one to begin with
poor mentality
Margaery, if I remember correctly, might’ve been the only person who saw their death coming even before it happened. It made her death scene sadder and more frustrating. She’s by far one of the smartest GoT characters and had everyone figured out, she should’ve been the dark horse who won the Game of Thrones. She would’ve been the next Olenna.
She did, she tried to get her brother and leave but they wouldn't let her out.
@@sailormoonwannabe which is why to me, her death is one of the most tragic deaths on the show.
Catelyn saw hers coming too
Catelyn is the one who discovered the Red Wedding remember, she saw that Roose was wearing armour and told Robb to run
Tommens death gave me goddamn goosebumps. The whole scene was… honestly amazing. The way it stays on the window. The way he has no hesitation at all and just, falls. Kills me. Then it stays on the window as the line “for house lannister” is yelled over the top is honestly poetic in my eyes. I don't know. The fact that it was cersseis last child that she indirectly killed, going against her one goal/love/ positive trait, that being her love for her children, and watching him take off the crown (basically decrowning the lannisters ) the just falling (the fall of house lannister) followed by “for house lannister” (all of it was for them and they destroyed it) sorry this is rambley and probably nonsensical but it was my favourite death of all the series
25:15 I only heard of Ian McElhinney (the actor) begging to not be killed off which was already such a shame, but to hear one of the LEAD WRITERS say that. That isn't just incompetence anymore, that was just straight up bullying. I feel so bad for Ian McElhinney, he and Ser Barriston (as a character) deserved so much better.
How the fuck they didnt think they were exactly like the Lannisters dismissing Barristan is also beyond me.
Dismissing him was as insulting as it was stupid
I feel like you're missing the point with Tywin's death, or maybe you didn't and you just like Tywin a lot which is fair. His death being so ignoble is the entire point. His character entirely revolved around his reputation and image, the "Noble, Proud Lion". Despite saying "the lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of the sheep", it's clear that how other people viewed him actually meant a lot to him. So for someone who was so proud and concerned with their image being killed by their dwarf son while taking a shit is honestly a perfect death for him. Even more so in the books where the smell of his corpse was making everyone sick.
10/10 to me
Also add to the fact that tywin famously hated whores and abused his son for it died with the corpse of the very whore he was sleeping with in the next room. Revealing his hypocrisy to the world
Heck in the books varys takes tyrion through a passage to a brothel with lannister colors that was "built by a previous hand of the king who wanted to go from the tower of the hand to the brothel without being seen"
Meaning tywin was screwing whores even before tyrion was born. Tywin was seeing whores so often he had a personal escape route made. Tyrion truly was his son
Couldn’t agree more man I love tywins death. All he cared about was his legacy and died taking a shit
Plus, you know, everything about his hated, unloved and unwanted son being the one who topples him from his seemingly insurmountable throne of fear, wealth and power.
The show also simplified the personal drama between Tyrion and Tywin a lot. Tysha got retconned and Tyrion's character whitewashed
Just FYI, in Season 7 Sansa and Arya were NOT onto Littlefinger at any moment before LFs death scene. There’s a deleted scene that explains it was Bran who clued in Sansa about LF, hence how they magically knew about LFs past crimes when they sentenced him. So every scene previous Sansa and Arya were absolutely, according to the script, fooled until that scene.
That is... extremely upsetting information.
Yeah I kinda figured that but the show needed to show that
They weren't fooled until that scene, because they were clearly on the same page during that scene. Therefore, they both knew the truth before we entered that scene
There is so much wrong with the Littlefinger Sansa Arya Bran dynamic in Winterfell. If it weren't for season 8, I'd call it the worst plotline in the show's run. Unfortunately season 8 does exist
@@mattvball17 They were onto him and knew he was playing them but they also didn't know the extent of LF's crimes.It's very cheap imo that LF died how he did because the Starks had a literal script of the show in their hands.
I loved Sansa, she had such a real naivety of a young girl wanting a fairytale ending and then went into survival mode after her father was murdered. She lived everyday being tormented and had to keep pushing through and pretending she was fine in order to survive it
Remember when for absolutely no reason she didn’t tell Jon about the knights of the vale, then let half jons army die and almost let Jon die, just so she could take the credit for the battle? Then after Jon says “We wouldn’t have won if it wasn’t for you” like no. We almost died because you didn’t tell anyone about the huge alliance you made and kept a secret until half of Jon’s army died. I hate Sansa 😑
I was glad that she suffered the way she did. she had it coming after betraying Arya in the first few episodes
@@rodrigoconcha9 Absolutely unhinged to wish rape onto a fictional characters for a thing they did as a child. Check yourself into a mental facilty.
@@rodrigoconcha9youre glad she watched her father be beheaded, had to stare at his head on a spike, have half her family die, be abused every single day, be almost raped, then be ACTUALLY raped. Be attacked. Be abused more. Be ridiculed and humilated all before the age of 17?
Yes, I love how Sansa overcomes every single thing life throws at her.
In defence of those cheering when Arya killed the night king, the entire internet was basically running on the adrenaline of the night king and the walkers being defeated after 10 years, once the excitement wore off and everyone watched the episode afterwards that was when the meltdowns about the whole season came out
the death of Jamie's character development still pains deeply to this day. I'll never forget my tiny bit of hope in his last scene, going "fuck maybe he'll kill cersei; he might do it" and then he Didn't. god, it's so bad. Jesus
I enjoyed his ending. It completed his arc. The thing that always bothered him most was forever being known as kingslayer and dishonorable. So to die protecting his queen was just so poetic
@@GJBedrin his arc was butchered wym
@@codythedoggo7671 it's in my opinion that the people who think his arc was butchered never really understood his arc to begin with. Most people wanted him to be the one to kill cercei which in turn would put him right back where he started. Killing the king/queen he was sworn to protect. By dying trying to save the queen he swore to protect in turn completed his arc of trying to get over his reputation of being the kingslayer which was always the thing that bothered him most
@@GJBedrin It didn't complete his arc, it destroyed his arc. His character was about a man taking shit for doing the right thing and becoming a better person as he gets detached from his toxic family. Then all 7 seasons of that gets thrown out the window with a quick "I'm hateful too"
@@GJBedrin he was supposed to distance himself from Cersei. Also it’s so annoying when characters die from rubble just lazy writing.
The fact that Maester Luwin asks Osha to do it quickly and then still he flinches from her blade being unsheathed breaks my heart every damn time.
Maester Luwin and Rodrick Cassels deaths were really harsh (And Jorys a bit too even though he died early) really made Winterfell seem like a place with strangers. Osha was really the character I never suspected in GOT. Absolutely loved her.
@@patty40897 What do you mean never suspected?
@@jsullivan2112 sorry I didnt explain it well. I didnt think she would translate that well to the series ☺️
@@patty40897 Glad she has more screen time than Tonks. (same actress)
@@Vayne_Solidor I agree ;)
Well you see it as a problem that Ned didnt even tell his wife the truth about Jon's origin, but for me it fits perfectly. He was the most honorable man. His (dieing) Sister asked him to promise that he wont tell anyone and he sticked to it eventough it made him look less honorable damaging his reputation aswell as hurting his mariage. He kept his promise till the end. (He maybe would have told Jon later on but didnt got to that. For me that still would have been right for me) Most honorable man!
Yes if Ned had not died upon his return to Winterfell he promised to tel Jon of his mother
Very honorable of Ned to let Jon live the life of an unwanted and partially hated bastard....
It was to protect him Robert would've killed him otherwise so Ned sent him to the wall so that he would swear to never hold any titles so he wouldnt be a threat to Robert@@KamuiLatina
@@stefanskatteforhojning1134 Ned at least could have told his wife about (love and trust?), at latest when he saw that dhe literally treat him her whole lifetime like shit for believing that Jon was the child of Ned. Why did jon had all that burden just for being born? This one action i dont see as honorable, sorry.
But then Catelyn wouldve started to treat him well which would be very suspicious considering Jon was her husbands bastard and then people wouldve started questioning if the honorable lord Eddard Stark acutally "dishonored" himself@@KamuiLatina
I just love how Margery was able to absolutely famoose the faith militant when even Cersei failed to bamboozle them
I never cried harder at a show (up to that point) than Shireen Baratheons death. There was just so much there.
Being the father of twin girls that will be that age soon that absolutely gutted me. I thought about that death for weeks after and even now I cannot watch that scene. That’s a one off for me. Absolutely breaks my heart. I don’t know how any father could stand there and watch that. The fact that even her mother hung herself after just made it that much worse. What a show.
@@holeefuksumtingwong5788 Same here, i have 2 loving daughters, and like any other father once you feel the unbreakable and eternal bond and love between us , that kind of scene is very disturbing and unbearable for me to wacth. There isnt enough reason or cause in the entire universe that would drive a father to comitted such an horrible act against his precious daughter, they ruined Stannis character with this atrocity. They even give him a touching and emotional scene with Shireen in the previous episode, a very rare moment for the always stoic and grim Stannis Baratheon. And after that rewarding scene that really hit me as a father, and make me root for Stannis the Mannis even more than before, they absolutely destroyed all they constructed with his long character arc since the 2nd season, making his consequent dead even more miserable and frustrating.
I sincerely hope that this is not the fate George Martin have reserved to Stannnis Baratheon in the books. I know he is inevitably destined to fail in his mission and meet his end in a sad note, but not in such an terrible way and preferibly going down like a baddas and defending his daughter and men to the last breath.
And then when the Onion Knight found out! 😭
I actually felt for Luwins death, he served dutifully no matter who was lord of Winterfell, he completed his duty to the best of his ability always and protected Bran and Rickon until he drew his last breath. Him telling everyone he'd be fine except Osha hit me pretty hard.
Same
If you have read the books... It's way worse
Yeah wtf is this guy on about, Luwins death was fucking tragic and heartbreaking
Luwin's death was tragic. Pretty garbage take from this video tbh
@@DarthSidian Yea i was thinking it was a pretty bad take as well. Luwin always seemed like a father figure to the stark kids, and seemed like one of the most level-headed and supporting characters in the whole series.
The thing about why Shae’s character “arc” feels so weird is because it’s an early example of Dumb and Dumber writing Thrones fanfic. In the books it’s abundantly clear that Shae doesn’t love Tyrion and is only with him for personal gain. I guess they wanted to give Tyrion a legit love interest but didn’t want to get rid of the full impact of the double murder Tyrion commits. He feels like he is incapable of being loved so he turns to prostitutes so he can pretend like he is capable of being loved, which is a result of what happened to Tysha (there’s a lot more to Tysha that’s revealed when Jaime breaks Tyrion out of prison that DEFINITELY screwed up Tyrion’s arc quite a bit). His father puts him down for sleeping with common women and acting unrefined but Tyrion finds out that Tywin is an absolute hypocrite. He dies all undignified on the toilet because “Tywin Lannister did not in fact shit gold”. It was to show us that he was a deeply flawed human all along.
this is rating not ranking
All that work/effort and he botches that😅
Oh no it's the end of the world.
Watching Arya kill the night king was weird because I was just as hype as all those people when I first saw it. All the context clues - the music, the buildup, even the energy of the people around you - everything happening around you tells you that you should be excited about that moment, but then when the moment sinks in and you actually think about it, it feels cheap and you feel tricked.
It's actually considered really bad writing to do the exact opposite the audience expects/guesses, from all the hints you have been given during the plot so far, to simply "subvert expectations". That's why it feels so cheap. Everything they have hinted at led to the conclusion, that either Jon or Bran would be the one to kill the NIght King and I firmly believe, that's what GRRM also originally intended. But sometimes writers feel so offended if people figure out what will happen and possibly lose the element of surprise, they simply change it for this "Got you" moment, even though all it does is destroying everything you have build so far plotwise.
@@Livvy9197 exactly, sometimes what the people are expecting make those exact people the most happy with the results of the show.
Honestly I think (or hope) Arya will kill Dany in the books. To me it makes a lot more sense. It felt so off that they went for the Night King as Aryas "big moment".
I actually think that in the books Arya will have a moment like that (either killing NK or Dany) but because the show lacks all that meaty build up and intertwining storylines from the books, it comes weak and imeffective dramatically.
Also, in the books Faceless Men are aware and trying to get involved with the coming long night, so maybr Arya will be the Faceless Man who makes that last assassination
I agree that the only reason people "cheered" was just because of the hype. Once you stop and take a good consideration of what happened u realise how badly they ended the white walker story.
I love how in their final script reading, the actor for Varys read his death, threw his script on this desk in disgust and was comforted by his co actors. Wraps everything up about the last 3 seasons….
Let’s not be dramatic 🤦🏻♀️ He read his last bit and placed the script down- his job was done. He’s a well respected and mature actor- he’s not going to throw a silent fit in front of his highly talented and hard working coworkers
(And this is coming from an absolute hater of s7&8)
@@shannonceleste5557 no, he hated the script. He obviosly knew that Varys would never act so dumb as he did S8. He was disgusted by the writing
@@shannonceleste5557 he didn’t throw a fit, but it was clear watching it that Varys actor was very unhappy with what happened
To be fair season 6 wasn't that bad it had flaws but nothing compared to horrifying season 7 and 8.
Season 6 isn’t even bad it’s not perfect but way better than season 7 and 8.
I know he didn't mention every single death, but i'm kind of sad he didn't include Will's death right at the beginning of the series. It was not at all insignificant because it serves as exposition for the main plot of the entire series, and it also puts Ned's character into perspective and we have a view of how he applies his values and principles.
Well if you'd like to hear me comment on Will, and every detail in the whole show, do I ever have the series for you! ;)
Looping that hanging at 33:30 was both uncalled for and kinda hilarious
Shereen's death was definitely super uncomfortable for me to watch, but I completely lost it during the scene where Ser Davos finds out. It was my first time crying to the show.
But, Hodor....?
Davos' actor killed that scene. You can genuinely feel the grief and the homicidal rage that only a father could feel over the loss of his child.
That was your first time? It broke my heart, but damn, I cried like a thousand times, even sometimes during rewatches
When Ser Davis faces Milasandre about Shareen just broke me too!! 😢😢 And the way Hodor died... 😢😮😢
@@DarthSidian Davos and Liam Cunningham in general are GOATed. Davos should've been the king at the end instead of what we got.
I think you forgot Grenn who's death is unarguably much greater than Pyps like Pyps death is sad to me because i saw him as almost innocent..a scared young man stuck at the edge of the world but Grenn oh man Grenn went out like a beast and i will be forever bitter they didn't show that epic af fight "The gods aren't down here just the 6 of us" is such a freaking raw line and made me absolutely love him all the more
Mainly bc i'm one of the freaks who finds Grenn Pyp and Edd among my top faves
@@Josku2411 the nights watch squad was awesome
@@Tek3333 Ah a kindred soul! Finally someone agreesX3
I didn't hate Grenn but he definitely wasn't my favorite and I always thought they should've cast a much bigger and stronger looking actor to play the aurochs, but I do agree with you that he did have a epic death with some badass last words though
I love the book version a whole lot more and thank the gods the Aurochs is still alive and kicking in the books🐂
"Oh, so *that's* why they call it King's Landing." 42:15
That got me to laugh immediately. I wasn't expecting that lmao.
The Olenna and Tywin scenes are fantastic. You really get this sense that these are 2 leaders of powerful rival houses that have been in those positions for decades. There is a certain air of familiarity, respect, and perhaps begrudging admiration from both.
Bro Luwin's death hit me hard. I would have given that like a 7/10 easily
1000%. He even had Osha kill him herself. After pretending he was fine for Bran and Rickon. Underrated character. Pulled several of the Starks out at childbirth, and really influenced Bran. Video poster was def wrong for that
Also; a badass fact is that if Luwin hadn't asked Osha to kill him, Ramsay Bolton would have found Luwin and flayed him alive. So he saved himself from the worst death imaginable
@@ad-dk3md according to the books, he pulled all of them out.
Maester Luwin will always be one of my favourite characters.
Luwin and Aemon were terribly underrated.
Yeah I hard disagree with him on that. Luwin was our first introduction to a maester and what they should be…
as a book fan lyanna being jon’s mom made me so happy, it’s been a popular book theory for a long time. also there have been targaryens with dark hair (book rhaenys) and a lack of valyrian features. your rant about the night king being killed by arya was everything!
I did not believe for one moment that the lord of light returned Beric to life 8 times for him to die in hallway and tank knives for Arya after forgetting to pick his sword up again
You are so right about Barristan Selmy and the decision to kill him off. This is possibly the exact point when the show starts to decline
I feel so bad for the actor, he wanted to keep going so bad, he begged them with source material, and they cast him off just like Cersei and Joffrey cast off selmy. The fact they didnt see that real life parallel and see that they were the villains of this story right then and there shows they never understood the books enough to be handed the adaptation responsibility. Like how could you write and film that scene where the villains unceremoniously throw an important character to way side and then do it to him real life? I caaant!
The three decisions I think ruined the show, was scrapping the dorne conspiracy, scrapping the northern conspiracy and ruining Tyrion’s character
I loved his death, i did watch the show before the books though.
I also love the fact that we get 2 different versions
@@henrylupkes211 3 plot points messed up, Dorne, Arya in and after Bravos (they seemed confused what to do with her character, and The knight king's motives being so simple and lame)
To be honest a decline should've been expected since season 1 episode 1.
The fact that they kicked out Jane out of the story (Jane is sansa's friend, later on ramsay dressed her up and told people that she is Sansa herself so that he can have a better claim to the throne so in the books Sansa was never raped she was safe in the vale all along and Peter didn't just throw her away like that) proves that they never had any plans post red wedding
It's really interesting that you consider Robb to be the one the story is about and Catelyn is just along for the ride. It shows how excellent a job the show did in the earlier seasons because Robb isn't a POV character in the books. His whole story is told through Catelyn, as is the Red Wedding. He's even absent for many chapters at times.
Cat was not “in for the ride” she was their mother but interesting taste to say the least
Yeah that's literally the comment that he made to make lose interest in ll this video. For him to brag about being so "analytical"
as a content creator, a lot went over his head. About only 30% of this video I actually agree with.
Yeah, as a book reader who never actually watched the show, this take was kind of surprising to me. Catelyn was the one we followed, and honestly she's one of my favorite characters. Her death was also way more interesting in the book (Book spoilers ahead):
Bascially, the Freys weren't intending to kill her; they were going to take her captive like they did Edmure.
But upon seeing Robb's death she went crazy and started screaming and tearing her face to strips, and some Frey slit her throat to get her to stop. Then Beric Dondarrion sacrificed himself to bring her back to life and she became leader of the Brotherhood without Banners. She and the BwoB then wandered around the Riverlands, indiscriminately hanging Freys. Other characters know about her but don't know her identity and call her Lady Stoneheart. When the books left off, she had captured Brienne, Pod, and a guy named Hyle Hunt and used the threat of hanging Pod and Hyle to persuade Brienne to find Jaime and lead him to Catelyn. Cutting Stoneheart in the show was pretty unpopular in the book fandom.
By the way, I've never seen anyone talk about this, but I just realized something. By the time of the Red Wedding, Arya, Bran, and Rickon were all thought to be dead, meaning (to her) Catelyn's only living kids were Robb and Sansa. When Robb died Catelyn would still have had one kid left, even though Sansa was a hostage in King's Landing. However, in the book when Roose Bolton killed Robb he said "Jaime Lannister sends his regards." This was technically true since Jaime had made an offhand comment to Roose about giving Robb his regards, but Roose made it sound like Jaime had ordered Robb's death. This almost certainly would mean Jaime wouldn't carry out his promise to save Sansa, meaning there was no hope for her escape. Therefore, in a way Catelyn lost both Robb and Sansa in one fell swoop.
@@wadewilson8011 yeah that had me suspicious and then the added "I really hate Sansa" did it for me. Like? I get that she's not everyone's favorite but saying that Sansa is one of your more hated characters is kinda a red flag to me in a way.
My only gripe with cats death is she was literally five feet from walder Frey and yet she chose to kill the girl and not him. Literally no one was there to stop her.
The saddest thing about GOT and ASOIF is that it has been 19 years since the last chronological book, and now there is the real possibility George dies before finishing the story. And if that happens, the show ending would be the closest thing we have to canon... i pray that day never comes.
I think the contrast of the High Sparrow and the actions he and his minions did was commentary about the duality of religion and power. They pretend to be good but maintain power through brutality
The reason that john avoided the Targaryen hair is explained in season one when Ned realised joffrey was an incest child because in this universe black hair is the most dominant genetic. Lyana had black hair so John took her genes instead of the Targaryen ones
Targaryen genes are also Super passive. Whenever Tagraryens marry outside the Targaryen (or nesr-Targaryen, like the Velaryons), they lose most of their purple eyes/silver hair traits... Blackwood, Darry, and Baratheon all had babies with Targaryens, but their children didnt Look Tagraryen
@@historypaul1657 that’s true. It’s why the Targaryens have been inbreeding since Aegon the conquered
There were children in his history with black hair
He's so "analytical" as a content creator, but yet he misses that point.
And also despite the fact that the kings all ended up with the silver-blonde and sometimes straight blonde hair, there were plenty of Targaryen’s with dark hair. They just all died before they could become king lol
margaery was by far one of the best characters in the show. her influence and control was unmatched. i was so sad to see her go the way she did but i guess at least even after her death she was still able to get revenge.
I loved how she was so similar to Cersei, but also completely different to her it made their rivalry so interesting
Natalie Dormer also portrayed her as one of the most charming human beings on the planet.
Cersei seemed to play the game mainly through knowledge and overt threats while rewarding/buying those she needed. Margaery played by pleasing those she needed and covertly implying threats to the ones who were hostile to her, often by showing her influence over others.
This took an insane amount of work. You’re amazing for this! It’s phenomenal! Thank you ever so much!!!
Was Grenn left off because he technically died off screen? His death was absolutely badass.
I definitely agreed with Euron. He was an insane character which I had no problem with, but him just appearing suddenly on that exact stretch of beach, with no boat no less, to fight Jaime, felt shoe-horned in.
What means shoe-horned?
Dnd fucked his character because they didn't know how to write a good character
@@Ritzifatzo like when something is forced into another thing without reason or any necessity
Shoe-horned in this instance is being nice. The convenience of him being there is asinine and insulting
@@shannonceleste5557 lol. I love how dramatic you made that sound.
And I have always liked the word asinine.
To explain more why people cheered when Arya killed the night king, it was an in-the-moment excitement thing. I remember just being excited that they were defeated, but the second the episode was over that's when I really started to think about it. The whole episode is nonstop mindless action which most of the time has audiences turning off their brains and enjoying the ride, I think this was intentional from the writers too. So once you get to the endgoal that we've been waiting for for a decade, with our brains having been on autopilot, its understandable to be happy in that exact moment. If you saw the reactions online once the episode was over and everyone was thinking about what they had just watched, most people were not excited about it at all. So no, most people weren't actually happy with that scene.
I agree
Completely agree
I dont remember anyone cheering for it tbh. I just remember that episode pissed me the hell off with characters wearing so much plot armor they might as well have been naked.
Personally I had a very similar experience to what FateViews describe. The fade-in of Arya behind the Night King was "oh no" and then the grab had me "oh, we're about to see Arya bite it? What?" then the knife drop and I was like "you're kidding me" into "oh... yeah... she killed him... what a surprise... F*** that's stupid".
TBF I had entirely expected them to lose at Winterfell and having to regroup their remaining army and ride south to Cersei to beg for a last stand. I fully expected a load of main characters to bite it, like Brienne, Jorah, Sam.
The rest of the season would go something like Cersei denying them entrance to the King's Landing. They then lay "siege" to forage supplies from caravans/traders and going south of King's Landing to get food. Even when reports of the undead army and the darkness of the Night King reached Cersei from more northern settlements, she still denied them entrance to the city, hoping to get rid of the northerners as they were first in line outside the city. As more reports come in and the darkness would reach King's Landing, Cersei finally grants the norterners entrance. It still takes some time before the Night King shows up, giving them time to strengthen defenses, make traps and similar. During this time Jamie is reunited with Cersei, but she still hasn't forgiven him for going north and abandoning her, so she's cold to him. He asks about the baby and if what Tyrion had said was true. Cersei looks a bit confused for a moment but then storms off.
Then the army of the dead arrive and the battle is on. The reinforced defenses prove useful in taking down targets, but there are just so so many of the undead. The installed Scorpius ballistae hold back Viserion from getting close to the city. The white walkers hammer through eventually and there just seems to be no end to the army of the dead. Thus a desperate attempt is made by trying to find and take down the Night King in all this mess. Daenarys and Jon use the dragons to scout from the air, and a number of task forces of the best fighters they have left is set out to punch through the undead swarms and find and kill the Night King with the best of their dragonglass weapons. Even Cersei directs most of the Queen's guard to these task forces.
It would be gruesome with loads of deaths for the task forces. Eventually Jon would find the Night King and he would get Daenarys' attention to assist the closest task forces in the direction of the Night King. That task force consists of Beric Dondarion and the Hound. Jon sticks near the closest group and lands Rhaegal to better clear the surroundings with the dragon making big fire breath swipes across the white walkers. In the process Rhaegal gets swarmed from all other sides and is killed, while Jon dismounts to join the group. To their surprise they suddenly get through the lines of undead and ahead of them they see the Night King waiting alone with his army forming a circle around him. The group remains untouched as they stand. They move forward but the Night King holds up a hand.
Then the expected happens where Jon challenges him to single combat. However the Night King is a better fighter, or at least more powerful. He pushes Jon back and lines up a punch leading to a stab, but Jon suddenly jolts his arm around to block the Night King's blade. A look of confusion on both fighters' faces. As the fight continues Jon realizes that something else is stirring him, steering his consciousness to block blows he wasn't prepared for or saw coming. We see a scene where Bran is seen sitting still in his chair in the tower of the Red Keep, he's white-eyed and warged. Back to the fight, the Night King is slowly taking back the control of the fight. He lands a few cuts and Jon is pushed to the ground. The task force standing back make a run trying to save Jon. Their path is blocked by the undead standing between them and the Night King. We then see the Night King slowly drive his sword into Jon's chest, mortally wounding him. In that moment Daenerys shows up on Drogon and sets the Night King and the undead standing guard ablaze. We know it wont kill the Night King (nor Jon) but it gives the others an opportunity to charge in and drive the Night King back from Jon. We don't see Beric in the group pushing the undead away from Jon, as he's kneeling beside Jon, pleading the Lord of Light to save Jon from dying, even if it would cost Beric his life. And thus he trades his life for Jon, who gets a second chance to fight the Night King. As they battle, Jon still feels this unfamiliar other presence within him, guiding him, but it doesn't seem like he can land a decisive blow. Then as the two lock blades, Jon suddenly feels the presence seem to disappear from him. The Night King suddenly seems to perk up, alert to some unknown threat. His movement becomes labored, clunky and Jon realizes this is the best chance he gets and lunges at the Night King, piercing his breastplate. The Night King slumps down on his knees with Longclaw sticking out of his chest, he begins to crack as the undead around them starts to drop, first slowly, then rapidly.
After the battle it is revealed that Bran is seemingly not waking up. We then see a montage of Bran training his ability to warg during the travels south to King's Landing to ever bigger creatures, and Jon theorizes that he had helped Jon in his fight and perhaps he had tried to hold back the Night King by warging into him and that he had "died" when Jon stabbed the Night King.
Jamie looks around for Cersei but she is not found. Days go by while they rest. Then the Mountain shows up in one of the markets and clearly challenges the Hound to single combat, but the Hound is not really interested as they had just beat the army of the dead and are exhausted, their rivalry seeming trivial in comparison. The Mountain clearly agitated by this non-response grabs a nearby civilian by the head and smashes it into the ground, killing them. At first the Hound don't really respond, more stunned. Then the Mountain grabs his sword and swings at the approaching guards who heard the commotion, decapitating the two of them. The Hound rises from his seat and with a sigh grabs his sword. We get the Clegane-bowl with mutual destruction by decapitating the Mountain and the Hound is mortally wounded.
We see a clip to Braavos, where we see Arya greet Jaqen in front of the temple of the God of Death. He is not terribly pleased to see her but invites her into the temple. We then see Arya put up a face of Cersei in the hall of faces and return to Jaqen, bowing to him. He is puzzled but then amused seemingly accepting her gift (either that of Cersei's face or Arya's further servitude to the God of Death).
In King's Landing there's a whole lot of squabble over the next many weeks and months about who gets to ascend the Iron Throne with Daenerys claiming it as her right but prominent figures in King's Landing and the southern regions calling for Jon as the true heir (callback to Varys' messages). Jon is seemingly distancing himself from the discussion and from Daenerys. Jada jada we can have a longer spiraling descent into madness for Daenerys where she finds out she's not received as the same benevolent ruler as she was across the Narrow Sea. It ends with Jon being announced as the true heir by the nobility and to some extend the people, sending Daenerys overboard and burning the Red Keep down. Most of her army being casualties to the war against the Night King, she flies off on Drogon having realized that she cannot hold control over Westeros without a proper army and without the will of the people.
We then see Jon crowned king and the small amount of remaining Wildlings are granted lands in the north near the wall for their help in the war. We then see a scene where Jon watches over Bran. He touches the boy and Bran slowly seems to slip away. A funeral is held for Bran. We then see Sansa end up as the vassal of the northern kingdom, Yara for the Iron Isles, Edmure Tully as lord of Riverrun and the Riverlands, Gendry as lord of Storm's End, and Tyrion as lord of Casterly Rock with Jamie as his military advisor and three no-names for Dorne, the Eyrie and the Reach. Bron gets a castle as he was promised. No ownership seemingly granted for Dragonstone. We end with Jon staring wearily out over the sea towards Essos, interrupted by a person who asks Jon to weigh in on a matter of the Small Council.
I cheered for a good two seconds and then went “..wait what”. Theon running straight at the NK and Jon screaming at Rhaegal beforehand already made up my mind about how stupid the episode was and that just topped it.
Shae was done weird in the TV show to make Tyrion look better. I understand why they did it, but if they had made it clear that Shae was there for money, and Tyrion was projecting his desire to be loved; her 'betrayal' would have made more sense.
Syrio not deep?! He was. He didn't just teach fighting and fitness to fight, he taught the philosophy of fighting. He was a fast and keen thinker and righteous man. I have great respect for his intelligence and values.
I think you misunderstood what Doreah did, she didn’t just run off with the most powerful man in Quarth when Danny disappeared in the House of the Undying, she colluded with him presumably after Xharo realised he couldn’t manipulate Danny, she helped have her Dragons stolen and got a lot of the few retainers Danny had left killed.
There is a deleted scene where she kills Danny's handmaidens too I beleive
@@hambacon559 there is!
The frustrating part was that she was a genuinely sweet character in the books and had a pretty sad death earlier on.
Correct. Doreah betrayed Dany for personal gain and she was jealous of her Dothraki handmaiden, who did admittedly flex on Doreah a bit. I think she also saw Dany's side as a lost cause following Drogo's death and The Dothraki turning against Dany. Xaro used her for insider information and she believed the deal between her, Xaro, and Pree would pay off. Pree gets dragons, Xaro is king of Qarth and she is the king's lover.
In fairness to her, it's not a bad arrangement.
I also do think he misunderstood a few things as well. GOT's characters are meant to be more grey than the traditional black and white schema most fantasy stories use. We rooted for Eddard, but he ostracized Jaime Lannister who, yes did push Bran out a window, but also staunchly fought for his brother and killed Aerys to save the population of King's Landing. Hell, Jaime tried I want to say twice to win Eddard's approval, because he trusted Eddard had a good sense of right and wrong. I know he did try to sway Eddard to soften on him when they talked in the throne room because he felt he had indirectly avenged the death's of Ned's father and elder brother.
@@hambacon559 wait it was deleted? I thought I remember seeing that scene when this aired. It's been a long time so I don't really remember a lot though.
Imagine not including the most heartbreaking death in the entire show… the untimely death of Lady 😭😭😭😭
Lady who??? Tf lol
@@GunmanNeek Sansa's direwolf
Got to include Summer too. They done that good boy dirty.
Oh, and Grey Wind too.
Not Shaggy Dog though - we never see it, and honestly he was in the show less then Rickon even. And no-where near as cool as he is in the books (he's practically feral and constantly getting into trouble due to how wild and aggressive he is).
Lady's death was the first red flag we got that Joffery wasn't the sweet prince he was portrayed as at first and Cersei was a c*nt imo
The death of Lady was so sad. Rereading the books atm and I just read that part again. Uff that was a sad part same with Summer. Grewind is a alot more "understandable" but still sad 😥
I still wish they hadn't thrown the Lady Stoneheart option in the trash when Catelyn was killed. It would've heightened her character in the show if they had found a significant part for her to play after that.
I just recently finished binge watching the show and while there are a lot of points I don’t really agree with, I’m with you 100% on olenna tyrell’s death as one of the best.
I’m usually the one to define a satisfying death as karmic justice against a character who infuriates me, but there was something so 👌 [chef’s kiss] about her not only going calmly and painlessly, but getting to tell jaime exactly what she did to his firstborn child.
I don’t want to be a book supremacist, but hearing your complaints, you should love the books
You have every right to be one
be a proud book supremacist the books are really good !
The books are just objectively better. No problem with being a book supremacist.
Well, i never wanted to read the books since I never really liked the show. Mostly because of the later seasons. I loved Daenerys but she was ruined when she first set foot on westeros. Thought the nightking had a lot of potential which was never played out (not even in the seasons he was first shown)... Jon was boring since the beginning and so on and so on but after this video and the amount of comments I read here how the books are way better I have now ordered the first two books. I'm really excited for it.
@@nietzschesayshi2569 read them very, very slowly. My advice is not to finish them before book 6 and/or 7 come out, or you'll be sucked into the depressing decade-lonf wait between books.
How can Ned’s death not be 10/10?
Agreed. Basically set off the entire show. Book readers might know what was about to happen but Sean Bean was so convincing in his role and it was still a huge blow.
This guy’s reasoning on the characters deaths are pretty mid
It's called "his opinion", what is there to not get?
@@Milkra Then why are you here?
@@maplepome it’s called “my opinion on his opinion”, what is there not to get?
Tommen will always be one of my favorite characters, maybe even number one probably just because he was so kind. He was manipulated by everyone around him (mostly his loved ones) and was genuinely heartbroken by the death of his wife, not to mention his whole ideology destroyed. Everyone always downplays his death because it didn’t have much impact aside from putting Cersei on the throne, but it hit hard since it only made me feel more bad for him.
That pun you made about his death was funny though 😂
Thanks for this!
Let us remember Olly's story: he lived in a village with his parents who were then murdered and Wildlings (Ygritte) and Styrs, presumably feasting on their bodies afterward.
Olly seeked shelter and help at Castle Black, following Jon Snow and supporting him. When he felt betrayed by him, he joined the mutiny and would eventually backfire and result in his hanging.
Olly's story is arguably a sad one. Seeing him glare angrily at Jon Snow before being put to death is a reminder to the viewer that he had nowhere left to turn and no else to believe in; his life was ultimately ruined.
All of this, at least to me, makes his story and death a very sad one.
To me, if a death is extremely memorable, it’s probably a 10/10. Viserys is an easy 10/10.
Ya, viserys's score shocked me. The build up, the tension, the character/story impact on dany and drogo, the khal drogo of it all, "a crown for a king", the creativity of the kill while sticking with the dothraki rules, harry lloyd's acting, being one of the first significant character deaths, definitely 10/10
In some ways it also mimics the death of a real life historical figure, Crassus. To heavily sum it up, was a Roman general and the wealthiest man in Rome, he tried to fight a rival nation called Parthia. After his army of 40k infantry lost to Parthia’s army of 10k horseback archers, he was beheaded and molten gold was poured down his throat to mock his wealth.
Good times.
Yeaaaaaa 6/10 didn’t sit right with me
@@baylay5047 really? Why not?
Ned’s is definitely a 10/10. Best death in history of television.
Shae in the books is a teenager who Tyrion specifically hires to pretend to love him. In the show she is initially portrayed as a much more intelligent and loving woman, which makes her betrayal of Tyrion feel more contrived.
It's not even really a betrayal at all. Tyrion was paying her to pretend to be in love with him, and they both knew the terms of their agreement, even though Tyrion deluded himself into believing it. From Shae's perspective their relationship was entirely financial, and his arrest ended it. All she did was testify in court against a former employer and then get a new job. It's hardly the worst thing in the world, and on top of that she was likely pressured to do both by Tywin, the most powerful person on the continent.
@@hawkfirequeen5766 That still sounds like book Shae, though. Show Shae turns down what pretty much seems to be financial independence: ruclips.net/video/8f7ncYR3rl8/видео.html Plus the obvious jealousy about Tyrion wedding Sansa, in spite of him wanting their arrangement to remain the same.
Didn't seem intelligent in the show at all
I know you said you left out a lot of deaths due to their insignificance but I think there's one that should have been included due to its role in setting the tone for the entire series. The death (beheading) of the ranger that deserted the wall when he saw the white walker in the first episode at the hands of Ned Stark. It set the tone for the entire series that this wasn't just another fantasy series full of magic and over the top likable characters but it was all of that with a good measure of raw reality where good guys didn't always win but often lost and it wasn't all unicorns and pixie dust. This is what got me hooked on this series from the beginning... Not because I like gruesome scenes but because I knew it wasn't going to eventually become boring where you could predict the fate of every character... (Good guy wins, Bad guy loses...) This death was far more significant than some of the others that actually made the list.
This video somehow manages to hit exactly how I feel about the show. Thank you, great video!
I still can’t even fathom that they didn’t have Jon kill the night king. It really blows my mind
In defense of the reactions of the big watch parties, watching a show with a bunch of people, some being friends, kinda hits different. You sometimes unconsciously get more hyped than a scene warrants, especially if it's at a bar and you've been drinking and having a good time. A lot of them probably went home going "wait... that actually kinda sucked..." after the hype wore off.
yeah, in some reactions you can see that after the night king's death they are all like "so...that's really it?"
it was just the hype of the moment haha
There’s a lot I had different opinions on, but thank you for making this video! Can’t imagine how much work this took, was a good watch
When Oberyn fought the Mountain in the books, it's told through Tyrion's POV... Oberyn whirled cat-quick, and ran at his fallen foe. “EEEEELLLLLLIIIIIIAAAAA!” he screamed, as he drove the spear down with the whole weight of his body behind it. The crack of the ashwood shaft snapping was almost sweet a sound as Cercei’s wail of fury, and for an instant Prince Oberyn had wings. The snake has vaulted over the Mountain. Four feet of broken spear jutted from Clegane’s belly
“I cannot stress how little I care about the storyline of anyone except Oberyn from Dorne” Big true.
I absolutely adore how fixated you are on and how confidently you believe in Xaro's hypothetical cannibalism
They both would've suffocated to death before starting to starve to death. I highly doubt any cannibalism happened.
Amazing work, loved the video.
The description of your emotions while watching Arya kill the Night King was chef's kiss, thank the Gods we at least have so many creative roasts because of the final seasons.
“Tommen was a chess piece. He was like the Lannister Sansa.”
Absolutely. Great insight.
"Never cared much for them, Innocent or otherwise" is like the perfect way to describe the way D&D thought of and treated the characters and the show.
Lyanna Mormont's death gave me serious chills and tears of joy I could never forget, so much fierceness and fearlessness coming from this little girl who stood up to a Giant and gave every little bit of what she had left to make her contributions to protect the North was so poetic and really solidified her character.
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Any tongue that rises against daeny shall fall
Fun fact about Catelyn's death: that's not her ending in the books. You're right that it was Robb's sendoff but it didn't feel right for Catelyn. She is a dead woman walking in the books now it's pretty cool.
Lady stoneheart.
And IIRC George R R Martin said her not coming back was the single most significant change in the show from his plans for the books
Timestamps: ( I finally did the timestamps for season 8)
season 1
1:06: Jory Cassel
1:30: Viserys Targaryen
1:52: Robert Baratheon
2:23: Syrio Forel
2:47: Ned stark
3:36: Khal Drogo
4:10: Mirri Maz Duur (evil witch lady)
Season 2
4:37: Yoren
5:00: Lommy
5:18: Renly Baratheon
5:49: Sir Rodrik Cassel
6:10: Ser Amory Lorch
6:40: Thirteen of Qarth
6:57: Maester Luwin
7:18: Pyat Pree
7:42: Doreah
8:31: Xaro Xhoan Daxos (what a cluster fuck of a name)
season 3
8:55: Craster
9:14: Jeor Mormont
9:29: Beric Dondarrion
10:07: Rickard Karstark
10:42: Ros
11:21: White walker
11:46: Orell
12:13: Talisa Stark
12:41: Robb stark
13:32 Catelyn Stark
Season 4
14:07: Polliver
14:34: Joffrey Baratheon
16:16: Nights watch Rebels
16:40: Lysa Arryn
17:18: Oberyn Martell
18:12: Pyper
18:30: Buff wildling dude
18:41: Ygritte
19:40: Jojen Reed
20:11: Shae
21:34: Tywin Lannister
Season 5
23:30: Mance Rayder
24:10: Janos Slynt
24:46: Barristan Selmy
26:06: Aemon Targaryen
26:28: Lord of Bones
26:37: Shireen Baratheon :(
28:04: Hizdahr Zo Loraq
28:22:Selyse Baratheon
28:40: Stannis Baratheon
29:47: Mydranda
30:13: Meryn Trant
30:31: Myrcella Baratheon
30:54: Jon Snow
Season 6
32:17: Doran Martell
32:33: Trystane Martell (?)
32:29: Roose Bolton
33:15: Balon Greyjoy
33:22: Ser Allister Thorn + Olly
34:33: Khals
34:50: Three eyed raven
34:58: Hodor
36:30: The Waif
38:17: Rickon Stark
38:27: Wun Weg Wundar Wun
38:43: Ramsay Bolton
39:45: Grand maester Pycelle
40:07: Margaery Tyrell
41:11: High sparrow
41:47: Lancell Lannister + Loras Tyrell
42:11: Tommen Baratheon
42:47: Walder Frey
43:20: LyvidaStark
Season 7
43:58: The sand snakes
44:08: Olenna Tyrell
44:45: Dickon Tarly + Randyll Tarly
45:05: Thoros of Myr
45:30: Viserion
46:22: Benjen Stark
46:54: Petyr Baelish
Season 8
48:41: Eddison Tollett
49:14: Lyanna Mormont
49:55: Beric Dondaarrion
50:30: Theon Greyjoy
51:21: The night king
56:52: Jorah Mormont
57:39: Lady Melisandre
58:38: Raeghal
59:13: Missandei :(
1:00:10: Lord varys
1:00:57: Harry Strickland
1:01:13: Euron Greyjoy
1:01:59: Oyburn
1:02:31: Gregor Clegane
1:03:02: Sandor Clegane
1:04:20: Cersei Lannister
1:05:50: Jaime Lannister
1:07:26: Daenerys Targaryen
1:09:42 Game Of Thrones
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Very much appreciated
Bit late to the party, but still: thank you for this amazing video. Although having read the books I see some things differently, it is wholesome in some way that you seem to capture perfectly what went wrong in the later seasons.
Every time you get disgusted by the bad writing it's just simply the writers fault and was never in the books like that. Goes to show how lazy and disrespectful they were.
I enjoy your commentary.. made me laugh a few times.. lol the reaction to Oberyn's death with the melancholy "noooo" lol.. definitly earned my sub lol +1
Wanted to say on Jon's lack of Targaryen features there are plenty of Targaryen's we see in the books that had children with other houses that didn't have Targaryen features (Bittersteel, Bloodraven, Baelor Breakspear etc) but the main ones we see in the show all have both Targaryen parents
A cool thing, whether true or not, would’ve been if they added white in his hair to some degree, leaving a question of stress/age or heritage.
@@cammykins5813 Baelor's son Valarr has the dark dornish hair of his dad but with a silver e-girl streak hahah
@@cammykins5813 Theon had that happen in books so it’s possible for it to happen again
Jon has his moms looks
Love how you made Theon's name half-Greyjoy half-Stark.
This is the very first comment about the banners I've received, thanks for noticing!
@@FateViews wouldve been better if you made his name reek, i agreed with pretty much everything u said except i hated reek and was glad when he died, i didnt find his character development particularly interesting
Excellent analysis! I agree with almost everything, and especially regarding Arya and the Night King.
I have to be honest, when I saw the length of the video I was like oh this is gonna be long. Your commentary was funny and I was shocked to see I'd watched 49 mins before even looking to see how much time was left. However, as someone who watched the last 3 seasons as they happened and only binged the first 5, I didn't catch the whole Arya thing and was happy to see how she killed the Night King. I was one of those people screaming, loving it. Tonight I'm starting this series over, specifically to see if I agree after watching within 3 weeks like you did. Excellent job on the video, dude.
The biggest disagreement i have with you is on Stannis. I'd give it a 3/10 because although i also liked the way he carried himself, and the fact that he had a few good quotes leading up to his death, everything he did leading up to it felt so unlike him. He loitered around Castle Black for too long before burning his daughter when in the books, it's established that if he dies, he'd have his men continue the fight to put Shireen on the throne. When he died, they cut to black which is something they never do and i just felt like in the end, they had wasted a good character.
This was a painful trip down memory lane 10/10 video I appreciate all the effort you put into it and watched the video beginning to end. The nostalgia from season 1-4 was beautiful but slowly it all collapsed.
dude... if not bc Maisie williams is so loveable I'd probs have hatred Arya post S4. Her plot was so mistreated in and after Bravos. They seemed confused what to do with her, is she no one, is she fighting for her family, oh wait she's back for revenge, oh no she's not. Just... just bc she is arya and as a person I love Arya but plot wise they dropped the ball. Sad bc Arya legit was my fav part of GOT from S2-4
Amazing video bro!!! Reminded me of how much I love game of thrones, the best tv show o ever watched.. I just love it!!! Thanks for this Perfect video!!!
Love the edit work pal
The people in the "watch-bars" and big groups dont represent the fans. They cheer for everything and are part of a cloud that would never criticize a single thing.
I feel like they are just as much fans as the ones who critiqued the show.
Just fans of a different show. All the ones who hated season 8 are fans of the show that was, while the ones cheering were fans of the show that became.
Once that clicked with me I started to watch that show in a different way. And it worked. I started to expect different things, accepted the new, different show I was watching now. And things like the Clegane-bowl, not despite of how stupid they were but exactly because of how stupid they were, became fun. I laughed with all the silly things that were happening. Embraced the extremely dumbed down crowd cheering show we got.
It's not the same show in any way at all. But once you do realize what you're actually watching it's still very entertaining for very different reasons.
Gatekeeping at its finest
Ok Mr. Gatekeeper of the real fans
Because some people just wanna enjoy things. 😉
@@stevenbooker7201 i know right
8:03 Not exactly, Doreah conspired to steal the dragons and kill her retinue. There's even a deleted scene where she strangles another handmaiden with a rope or sash or something. She didn't have reason to believe Dany was gone, she orchestrated events to make her gone.
That’s what I was going to say also. She literally conspired w the man she was locked in the safe with. Dany had not been gone that long and for her to “move on” bc Doreah “didn’t know” she was coming back. I’m sure he had her fooled to believe he would make her rich and he wanted the dragons as well. Both were not to be trusted and both of their deaths were well deservedz
Calling Tommen "a Lanister's Sansa" caught me so off guard 🤣 very true
I know this is old as hell by internet standards but man, your deadpan delivery is so good
it may be old but I still read all my comments, thanks for this my guy
I honestly think that they should have had theon kill the night king AFTER he's already been fatally injured. Would have been a good moment with bran considering Theon tried to kill him at the beginning of the show, and then he basically dies saving him as a last big act of redemption. AND I feel like it would have subverted expectations WAY more than arya killing the night king.
I think that line about two idiots being in a hurry to move on to other projects pretty much sums up all of the reasons the show fell apart. HBO would have given them as much time as they needed to keep the show going--all D&D had to do was pass it off to the other writers and be on their way. The end result probably still would have had problems, but the show might not have taken a huge, steaming dump all over itself right there at the end.
Damn right and it still hurts 3 years later. Such a waste
I always think it’s funny how they advertise their streaming service to watch GOT its stupid
I could've done a better job being the writer for the show and I've never read a single line of any of the books
They should’ve just given the work to someone else after S4 when they dropped all the current source material that they could have used. They went fanfiction and it was terrible sadly
Nice vid bro, rip everyone
Great video
Completely agree on what happened during Missandei's death. Cersei could've killed Dany, Drogon and Greyworm all at the same time. THEY WERE SO CLOSE. Writing was so stupid. Also i kinda wish her death was more epic. She was too cool of a character to die by bricks. Maybe a trial for her after the battle ended?
she should've been standing under a tree so that Arya could drop out of it and do the cool knife trick again to kill her.
Then the camera pans over, dramatic shot revealing that Jaime is standing under another identical twin tree, which Arya teleports to using her assassin powers and jumps out of to kill him. It's like, cinematic parallels...or something.
Cersei literally had every advantage and the reason she lost in the ending was just because the plot demanded it.
@@uckbritley1305 You should be genuinely ashamed for believing that any aspect of that drivel you just wrote would be in any way a compelling sequence of events
@@jackstack2136 He was obviously joking you troglodyte
Cersei could have them killed in a blink of an eye. In other shows/universes such as Troy it would be dishonorable. Considering Cersei doesn't give a damn about honor... so yea kill them.
I watched this show for the first time this year and had no idea Jon’s death was coming, and needless to say yes my brain was blown out of the back of my skull. I was so devastated actually that I didn’t move on to season 6 for a few days because I needed time to process it(then a sigh of relief when he got revived like 3 ep later)
i was so shocked but i saw a fucking tiktok edit of him facing the army which didnt really spoil anything but i hadnt seen it yet, so i knew he had to be revived which did kill some of the emotion for me
Nice content man
Because you were honest in ur intro im giving a like within the first minute ty
Ayyy. Finally someone who felt the same way for Ygritte. She was my favorite character by far. Her attitude was lovely. Her death was one of the most impactful and I wasn't expecting it, I figured she was destined for a redemption. Instead, she dies and Tormund is redeemed. Very crafty switch.
Greetings from the free folk, kneeler!
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What gate are you all coming from?! This is amazing.
@@FateViews we’re coming from r/freefolk, a subreddit dedicated to hating on the ending of Game of Thrones
The freefolk s remembers
@@jaimelannister1797 Actually being an early member of Freefolk, you just reminded me of what a sad hive of mindless resentful trolls my beloved subreddit devolved into. Many newbs on there were already hating on GoT a whole year before the last season even came out. Other than a few quibbles and being rushed at the end, the ending was bittersweet, and exactly what Martin intended from the ASOIAF books.
@@AWolfMan75 Was FreeFolk originally a book subreddit or something? Because all I've ever known of it is hating on the ending (which imo is incredibly well deserved hate)
I disagreed with a lot of these takes but then when he said Tywin, Joffrey, and Ramsay were his favorite I realized, "oh we don't agree on anything." But great video man, really. Check out the books.
To explain the cheering with the Night King kill, for me when it happened I felt the same way, but after thinking about it for a second I realized how dumb it was. Really I think that reaction is less a result of believing the kill was good and more of a result of the directing and music tricking me into liking the moment. It’s really one of those things that appeals to a moment being presented as “epic” that made me excited initially, but then when the realization hit that it made no sense I could never look at the scene in the same way. Every time I rewatch the scene I simply roll my eyes at it.
For me I went into the episode with hype (I was still at school and me and my mates thought the first 2 episodes were pretty good). As the episode played i got increasingly pissed off at the level of darkness. I then saw that scene where John was running through the courtyard seeing everyone die but he couldn't help because he knew that he needed to get to the night king and i thought that level of sacrifice was great. Little did i know none of those characters would die even though they should have. Then John screams at a dragon which annoyed me. Then when i heard Arya scream and appear out of no where i was verbally saying "No, No, No" Then it happened. I paused the episode and sat in my chair and was just shell-shocked. After that episode I immediately ranted to all my friends (who weren't as hardcore into this universe as i was) and they tried to defend it. however by episode 4 they were disappointed. But that specific moment hit me soo hard, I don't think any media will ever have the same effect on me like that.
I got into the show around season 6, after watching it all I ordered the books, spent time in theory communities and watched videos hour long. Those 2 idiots ruined everything and that scene was the big one that did it for me.
@@chalk1415 This is almost verbatim my game of thrones story line written into two paragraphs, this is crazy
It gives the viewer that feeling of triumph like "Yes, we won!" Like when a sports team you support wins a game. But after thinking logically with this death, you'd realise if TNK just didn't engage directly or stop his swarm or simply waited till everyone but bran was dead, he would've achieved his goal. He could've instakilled arya with his bare hands too. Then comes the meta discussion of why arya had to be the one to kill him, it makes no sense. She makes a choice to be with her family instead of going after her list, she kills littlefinger and TNK then it's back to her regularly scheduled murder spree, i have no idea why D&D write like that, especially since those storylines had nothing to do with her
@@chalk1415 I hated that episode from the start. So many times in the past, they had shown well-thought-out battles that made sense and had decent tactics. The whole defense of Winterfell was some of the worse battle tactics displayed in any show or movie. The show had fallen apart way earlier but my friend and I could not stop from laughing the entire time at how unbelievably stupid everyone in Winterfell is to think any part of their defense was good. Every single aspect of that episode was just awful and then it got to climax where they just ignore 7 seasons of storytelling to have the fan favorite Arya get the kill instead of Jon which was his sole purpose and literally the reason he was resurrected. so stupid im sure a bunch of monkeys could have written a better ending to that story and I am afraid with how long it has taken Martin to finish off the series that he was planning to end the books in a similar way.
@@MadManMatrix I understand those who didn't like the death of the night king, but the purpose of the series is not to recreate medieval strategies in the most realistic way possible, it is a fantasy series with political themes and various well-developed characters, it's okay if the war doesn't make sense from a strategic point of view, this is not a historical representation of real battles.