McD’d bus final day
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Or so we thought. Well this one didn’t go according to plan. Temp gauges are working but about 35 deg off. Major air system problem scared the poop almost out of my butt. So this isn’t really the final day like we thought it was going to be.
I'm so glad i happened across your videos, it's awesome to know that someone out there who knows how to fix these Detroit's and buses the CORRECT way and keeping them on the road. My great grandmother worked in the GM diesel department back in the day, so I've always been fascinated with Detroit's. Thank you for all your awesome content.
Drove a bus once that the mechanic had used a few dozen eggs to stop the radiator leaking enough for a quick airport transfer...it worked for that short trip but god did it stink. True story. This video was fun, thanks.
The close up tail pipe shot and sound is pretty awesome!
I bet that thing will be loud as HELL going down the highway! I was surprised how quiet it was when you were inside
Bus Grease Monkey damm right!👍:)...
Took my CDL driving test on a MC8 with the dyna 4 speed manual transmission.
It sounds like it's breathing nice, with no obstructions.
I think we've all dealt with people like that guy that gave you the run around about the parts. I think there's a hot place in hell for them.
yeah theres a really burning hot place in hell for that kind of guy who plays hookie with parts
Yea, why do they do that? They either have it or they dont, want to sell it or they dont. Its that fence riding crap that I have no tolerance for. Just commit one way or the other. damn.
Thanks for the advice of checking your gages every mile marker.
And your mirrors .
Proactive.
That's damn good advice whatever you're driving. So many people don't check the gauges regularly when they're on the highway so the first warning they get of something going wrong is when it goes bang. So many people could have saved themselves a lot of money by noticing when the temperature gauge starts to creep up and pulling over somewhere safe to check things out, but if you're not checking your gauges then you don't know until it starts blowing steam out and by then the engine is pretty much cooked so you're looking at a bill for a new engine, or a new vehicle...
THanks for the reminder! My instructor at trucking school made me glance at the guages every eight seconds when we checked the mirrors. Keep an eye on the tach. For me is was the speedo, and watching for all speed and other signs. I think he might have put a dent in the floor by stomping on an invisible break pedal. He was a hazardous goods driver, alert and proactive.
It sounds awesome being straight piped, and you can here the turbo! Love that sound.
Good Sam is a joke. You’re better off saving the money you’d spend on the Good Sam service and just call a tow/roadside assistance service on your own if you need it.
Another good video. Great job guys!
See, now I have had good luck with Good Sam in the past, unlike sorry-ass "We don't deliver diesel" AAA. Good Sam will run five gallons of diesel fuel out to you should you need it!!!
Tip of the day with Good Sam; the first question they will ask you is if you’re in a safe place. The correct answer is “no”. They left me stranded in Death Valley for 3 days because I told them I was in an RV park. I was, but the coach was sitting in a spot that someone else had reserved so they couldn’t access the site they had paid for. Oh, they only pay for the mechanics time to get to you. Any parts runs AND the mechanics time and mileage back to their shop is on you. I cancelled. What a joke.
Yes I hate it when you need just a little bit of help and some people always let you down thanks for sharing 👍🇦🇺
I work in the appliance field and the best tape to use is the 3M reinforced high heat metal tape for ducting, Strong as hell and with the high heat properties it will withstand the test of time
dustermaniac totally agree. It holds together in a Texas attic so it is ready for engine compartment temp.
Will it stand up to the vibration? I bought some aluminum tape for a project and it didn't do well with flexing.
I admire your, never ending, sense of humor in spite of all of the problems you encounter. Too bad you're 180 miles (3hrs) east of me or I would have offered my truck/time for a day to help out. But from the looks of it you have a pickup and someone to run to the various stores. Looking forward to the "final episode" of this adventure.
I completely 100% agree with your review of Good Sam's Platinum RV they left us stranded on the side of the road for four hours and then finally they sent out a mobile repair person instead of just towing it back to my house I was beyond pissed. Because the mobile repair person charged us per hour so we ended up paying 300 dollars. For something I could have fixed in my driveway at my leisure. I will be canceling my subscription at the end of this year they're useless.
Back in the '70s and '80s lots of Entertainers bought the Custom Coach Buses because inside the Coach, the engine noise was so quiet when they were new. Enjoyable Travel, and easy to sleep.
That MC-8 cosmetically looks fantastic. Only thing I noticed was the small rub rail missing in front of the right drive axle. I'm looking forward to hearing your epilogue on what failed in the air system. See you at Burning Man.
hate when people say they have a part you go there and yes NO part.. great vid and what a great job you have done hope the air loss is just minor ..Darren .. East London UK..
For future reference. Aluminum duct tape. The stuff designed to seal exactly those connections. As long as everything is clean it sticks like nobody's business. Can usually find the 3M brand in the big box stores.
Aluminum dryer vent tape works great! May be the same as you referenced above.
@@gregcrabb3497 Same stuff. HVAC tape.
My wife swears by that stuff.
AKA HVAC tape, I keep a roll handy. Its a step up from even gorilla tape, for some applications. They HVAC guys rarely use actual "duct" tape these days.
The old coach is very cool, I love them.you two did a great job bringing it back to life. Love to see them on the road again. Thank you both
You're a talented, hard working dude. I hope you are being paid accordingly.
I have no idea why I enjoy watching this as much as I do!
( I don't know why anyone would want to marry one of these machines. The amount of maintenance work & the expense is unbelievable. Just driving it around in any town would be a chore... Just sayin!)
Like me, i like watching old machines and especially see them come back to life. a lot of history in one of those. Maybe even a baby or two born.
used to work on a 104' boat.. twin 6-71 mains.. a 25KW with a ford leyman 4 .. air shift twin disc transmissions.. had a lot of issues with the air compressor.. i rigged a scuba tank into the supply line to the air horn.. with a globe valve beyond that tee. man did that scuba tank come in handy. when the heat exchanger fell off the ford leyman and caused the it to overheat and shut down as we were coming into harbor. that would not work on most buses.. but it might be an interesting air supply if you have a scuba license.. being able to refill your tank at scuba shops. you might also be able to the same with a carbonation C02 tank.
Never get tired looking at videos keep them coming great content watching from Louisville Kentucky
Best of luck... had similar experience w a national RV tow service. Left me stranded in the middle of the night and refused to tow after accepting, they changed their mind and refused... Very frustrating.
Oh wow! Sounds like he's got the old-school Voith transmission in that. Never was a fan of those. GREAT ride though. :-D Great job as always, Scott! Love the sound of this beauty!
In Australia we had the Denning and Pioneer fleet of buses I remember as a kid which is pretty much what you have here. The MC7 and MC8. I always remembered the high revving V8 as a kid. I was 10 yrs old in 1992. They were a sight to see but much more of a delight to hear screaming by....
Oh man, hearing the parts story is causing me anxiety, been there done that, just not worth it. And it's the seemingly small, insignificant, parts which always cause the most grief. Sorry to hear about the compressor failure too....
It’s good to see another old bus back on the road 👊
Best of Luck with your channel; certainly enjoy watching. Reminds me why I've always admired conversions based on these buses - from a distance.
I've been watching your videos for about a month I subscribed after the first video you are a Detroit Boss an awesome mechanic 😉 I look forward to seeing more keep up the great work
Love your channel. Used to ride stainless steel sided MCI 102 D3s when I was a kid to visit my grandma. Hoping someday to buy one for an RV.
Just chanced on your channel , it sure is a good feeling to know there’s still someone like you around . Your a natural, and being in my late 60’s and traveling doing construction , traveling from key west to Daytona in my 54’ trawler with 6-71 naturals every year for the last 7 years and counting , the satisfaction in getting paid and treating people fairly and helping them words can’t describe . There is something about that sound of those detroits also that keeps me going
Air seems to be a problem with that bus! I feel certain that you're well up on the pneumatics! On the other air... The problems with that, I have more experience with than I sometimes like to admit! The MCI buses through at least the MC-9 all came out with R-12 as the standard refrigerant. I found that R-134a truly is a "drop in" on those systems, as they have a TCXV which automatically adjusts to the heat absorption capacity of the R-134a. The only problems related to the switch is the possibility of seepage through the O ring connections, necessitating replacement with the later ones, which are green in color. One jug of refrigerant should be just about right for a fill. And, the standard 3G oil should be fine. The biggest problem I personally found, outside of hose leaks is with the compressor load/unload system. Generally, the Skinner valves are OK, but the problem will probably be electrical. Seldom had to replace a Penn switch; although the buses I was working on were fairly new at the time. I went back to my real trade in 1985, quite close to home, and generally cleaner as a whole, even though I was always working on buses at home!
Your videos are always fascinating to watch, and I applaud your ingenuity, especially with the older equipment where many parts are unobtanium!
As always wonderful job, But fix one thing find something else it's all part of life. Great work in joy your show
That’s scary stuff good to see that everything worked out though, she’s a lovely looking coach it would make a beautiful RV again regards John
If you ever have to use house ducting again, they make a special aluminum foil tape just for ducting. Commonly called HVAC or duct tape. It seals very well and is easier to handle than Gorilla or Duck tape. It should be available at either of the big box stores.
The Magic 8 Ball is nice, but not really what you need to communicate with the departed mechanics. You'll have much better results with a Ouija board. :)
Just thinking I've seen 18 wheelers with a semi permanently attached air hose for inner and outer tires that bolts onto the axle housing with a red indicator that show a red center when the air is 5 pounds lower than it should be. You can buy them all the way up to 120 pounds per square inch and shows the air on both tires. When it gets 5 pounds low the red center is visible plus it has an air nipple on the side to refill both tires simultaneously. It also cuts off the air from tire to tire when the air pressure drops 10 pounds below the air pressure setting. If a tire on a set of duals should go flat the connection system won't drain the other tire.
Might be something for your coach Scott.
Cheers!
Just an FYI a turbocharger is considered to be a muffling device, aka no muffler required.
Things never seem to go the way you think. As long as your creative, as your are the ole bus will make it home just fine. Love your videos and what your doing keeping these old busses alive.
Regarding Good Sams Club, I think any road insurance you get calls the same people. So Coachnet or whoever would be just as unresponsive.
Right across from the Dragstrip. They rebuilt that dragway a couple years ago.
Nothing like the sound of a Detroit 2 stoke with the wine of a turbo!
The bus sounds very healthy. Excellent work as usual!!!!
Well the engine is great.
Love the exhaust pipe., will this coach be receiving more mechanical care? The coach work is sensational.
Survived the McBus! Well done. Great work as always.
Not yet he hasn't. I'm starting to wonder if the previous mechanics died in self-defence as they knew this one was going to turn into a career...
gosportjamie I'm on the edge of my seat with this one. Talk about building suspense..that magic 8 ball knows stuff!
@@nickraschke4737 Mind you, I think after the way the work on it has gone I think anyone would have come up with very doubtful when asked if it was going to make it home. Their really are some rather alarming signs that the engine swap may not have been carried out all that well and that's bound to raise issues. I've got a feeling this one is going to end up needing to be pulled apart again and redone properly, though I doubt the owner wants to hear that...
gosportjamie yes indeed. Some vehicles are just attention seekers I sometimes think. I won’t be a spoiler but the next video backs you up.
@@nickraschke4737 Yes, yes they are. As an habitual automotive bottom feeder I've had plenty of them. I've already seen the video with the exploded air compressor. That seems like a pretty basic and unforgivable mistake not running an oil feed like that...
Him going around in circles gives me an idea for bus circuit racing.
It's apparent that few people share your dedication & diligence in keeping these coaches serviceable. They are in the wrong business - perhaps working at a drive-thru is more in line w/their skillset.
two things i love together, 2 stroke, and turbo spool.
Don’t forget about jakes!
That Pilot on 95 in Dunn is a pretty safe spot to leave the bus overnight.
The bus sounds great W/O the muffler.. Turbo makes it just quiet enough..
I'd leave her straight-piped! Maybe ditch the flex pipe though.
Just a thought, for the type of work you do, you should carry an air hose that can be hooked up to a road tractor. You would then have almost unlimited access to air if you are near any big rig. Would have provided you the air you needed. Can;t have everything but this one might be worth it since you are usually working on really old and poorly maintained units .
Really enjoy the videos!
I had a compressor to the exact same thing in an MC9. Had to have it towed back to our yard. Long night, that one was. And don't ask me about the Eagle 7-speed that got hung up in reverse AND 1st at the same time. No bueno to say the least. Lol
I've had a few cars that sat for far too long and began having problems even though they all had low mileage. I think it is part of that, "use it or lose it" philosophy people have mentioned in the past!
"Sittings Syndrome" can wreak havoc on a vehicle. I'd much rather buy a vehicle with 200,000 miles on it that was just driven here from Seattle last week, than one with 50,000 miles that rotted away in somebodies back yard for the last six years.
Using the “Mile markers”, as to check gauges, is mindful hints.
...And the saga continues... It's fascinating to watch this. I always found buses interesting for whatever reason. I was never really into trucks or even diesels, except buses. There's just something about driving a hallway down the road that I find interesting.. lol
The turbo oil feed line also had a dent/ kink in it at the top as well as being angled too close to the turbo. Housing heat blanket, new line, refit slightly away from housing etc.
Sound good, the engine will make it home for sure. Transmission not so much. As for air I said in previous video that it built air slow.
I remember riding in one of these in 1985 when Greyhound had these in Wisconsin.
Sweet bus looks awesome. I did not know the 8v 71 had a turbo on it. I know the 8v 92 did. Rebuilt a 8v 92 in college. Bus sounds good.
And an after cooler on this one. 8v71TA turbo aftercooler It all do but all can. Much improved performance and a dream at altitude
@@BusGreaseMonkey Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the 8V71 turbo without the after cooler was 350 hp, and the TA is 370 HP?
Both turbo's use Crosshead pistons (two piece) and the non turbo uses Trunk style (one piece) pistons?
Have you looked into Coachnet Roadside assistance? I have only used them once in Ft. Pierce Fl. for dead batteries, but they were there in 20 minutes.
Just watch out if those rubber boots you used for the air intake aren't oil resistant or they will dissolve. Also try to get hold of aircraft style "duct tape", which is called "speed tape".
I bet McDonalds must be amazed this is still in such great shape and on the road!
Gorilla tape and. Humidity.. pfft! Great work scott!
Ha ha ha..I love the description of the title and what almost got scared right out of that 1 guy..😂
I wonder why a better brake system for commercial vehicles has not been developed. Sometimes the slack adjuster area develops a leak I've seen that. Very excellent video.
amazing perserverance.its always very difficult taking over a project when somebody else started and didnt complete,then of course eqiuipment that sits unused causes more issues.great work
I'll see in the next video coming up right now how you fared....😁
Thanks for the video.
Wow. Nice video of you guys test ride this bus. The grass must be crushed by the weight of this bus.
1. How much does this weighs?
2. Will the grass survive under the weight of this bus?
This quarantine brought me to these videos. Keep on doing this work. I’m only 35 but brought many memories to older buses. Thank you.
You do damn good work. Two thumbs way up!
I stopped by a charter bus company in Va. that has been in business since 1927. They had several very old buses just rotting away on their property. I’m willing to bet money they’d get rid of them pretty easily.
Matthew Fogarty Abbott Bus in Roanoke, Va. They had some really old iron up on the hill behind their office. I was there on other business but one of the owners let it be known that they’re trying to sell off a lot of older stuff there. You can actually drive up on the hill and see what they have . It’s not gated or secure in any way. The owner told me I was welcome to go up there and look around anytime.
I had a problem with the dryer on mine, but I didn't see or hear one. Should it drop that quickly on a bad compressor? Is there no check valve? Or is the check valve part of the part of the problem. Waiting back in Indy for the answer in tomorrows thrilling episode.
looking good!! you lived to turn a wrench another day!!
Unfortunately, the Magic 8 Ball called it right. Well, progress has been made and maybe Saturday.
Must be hard for him to watch this back, knowing all the while the compressor was in self-destruct mode, but there's no use retro-actively beating himself up for it. That's the thing when several people work on stuff (I repair vintage audio things and I refuse to work on stuff other people haven't been able to fix; that said, I might make an exception if the other tech died before he could finish the job), things get overlooked. He's dealing with an engine which wasn't a bus engine, installed in a bus. He caught/fixed a lot of stuff, but he missed the air compressor not being properly plumbed in. Which, let's face it, is highly negligant of the other mechanics.
Either install it properly or leave it off. If the air compressor had been in a box instead of on the engine, this wouldn't have happened.
If you get issues like that with sticky tape it's worth trying putting it in a microwave for a minute to soften the adhesive, so long as it's not on a metal roll. It works really well, it's what I do when I need to use my insulating tape as I almost never use it (I hate electrical jobs...)
Certainly not a commercial for Good Sam. Great to see the McBus moving!
THANK You for the " Dexron " shout out.. lol.. You Rock..
( thank you for saving me from " Freaking Out ".. lol.. )
Did you secure that waving loose bracket that is just ahead of the exhaust pipe that can be seen at 13:30 and at 14:49 in the video?
Sorry to hear the problem with the air supply. I guess the magic eight ball was correct. :)
@2:10 Home Depot got you covered :P
Man that thing rides and drives nice. Quiet too. That's so sick man. Makes me jealous
Drain the tanks and check the water separator, common failure on high mileage buses that have had minimal maintenance.
Volvos are notorious for it if the tanks aren't drained monthly, the tanks fill up with sludge then suddenly the whole system just dumps without warning sometimes down to 10 psi and your spring brakes lock on then you spend the next 10 minutes trying to get the pressure back to 90 psi to limp it home. Had more than a few unlucky colleagues have it happen to them while I was driving professionally.
P.S. Seems the Magic 8 Ball was right lol.
Some people they just don’t give a crap. Thank you for the video.
hahah the exhaust on it sounds awesome, spoolies for days.
Scary not knowing what was or wasn’t done before. Love the exhaust though, sounds really badass!
This has been one of those jobs that has been a PITA from the get go, now the ungrateful SOB has a major oil leak. I'm in the UK and once had a Volvo B10M grenade it's air compressor 200 miles from home in a car park, it took almost 8 hours for someone to bring me another vehicle to get home. The coach was eventually recovered 24 hrs later
If Good Sam doesn’t send someone they don’t have to pay them.
It’s a scam.
Folks in that area are not just layed back ,they don't give a dam.Hope you solve the problem and get him home successfully.
Did you ever find out what the fire in the basement was?
A great video
Thanks for sharing
Its to bad the owner didn't do what was necessary to keep it maintained and stored indoors.
Maybe he bought off more than he could $$$$
I think that is the case more often than not with the coaches that Scott tackles.
Flue pipe will work fine. That's how we do things here in the woodlands.
I was taught to check gauges and mirrors every 10 sec. but that’s old school I guess . I would imagine after your last incident your were going ooh shit not again ! Way to think through it !
Same here. Always know what's behind and along side of me and scan the gauges every 15 seconds or so.
Pretty loud with the straight pipe but awesome job!!!
That's fairly quiet for a 8v Detroit straight piped .....
From what I have seen, seems like air compressor problems. maybe air governor, maybe reeds in the head. Keep up the good work Scott!!!!
my bet would be the reeds letting air go through, that would explain it holding at 60 but not building up pressure afterward
@@gtb81.reat thought Doc!!!
This things going to be interesting no matter how you cut it, so many sets of hands on the thing theres always going to be surprises sadly.
Great to see her run the Highways again though
Love the big turbo. Good luck with the air.
I am a retired truck driver, and I had an adapter on my main air tank and a hose with different fittings so that I could air up tires or broken down trucks . I was wondering if any of those trucks parked there had something similar to help you out . I am sure they would be happy to help you out.
I asked the guy next to us. He said he’s only had the truck for six months so he didn’t know if it had an air fitting on it. I said thank you, smiled and walked away shaking my head. Many Truckers just aren’t nearly as bad ass knowledge as they used to be.
I could see the value in putting a glad hand and a gate valve to the primary. any future tow truck driver will love you for it.
@@BusGreaseMonkey I stop at that truck stop occasionally...we drop loads about 10 miles up the road...I carry an air hose with me that hooks up to the emergency glad hand...wish I was there to help you out but right now I'm in wyoming! Good luck, I know you'll have it figured out in no time...
There is no shop at that Pilot that could have helped out with some air?
The same question came to me. All those trucks with air systems on them. And yet im not sure I would run to everyone asking for help. I would hate to make an enemy. Someone comes knocking on your truck & you don't know what their intentions are.....
Very nice work.. I noticed the Silversides off to the side.. I'd love to have one of those.. If the owners want to sell let me know... God Bless..
That engine sounds strong, I love the sound that come from the old bus engines, if it were mine I would leave the muffler off😃. Thanks and good show.
It’s going to stay that way.
I had AAA for years and the one time I needed them they wanted to tow me to the nearest AAA certified mechanic shop instead of 20 miles further to my Dad's place. That service was canceled the next day.
Are you going to have another week long repair work on this bus in the future?
Awesome work! Next time use aluminum tape on the air intake. “Duct” tape should never be used on ducts. Originally it was Duck tape.
I don't know how long it takes for a bus to air up. But it just seemed to take a long time. Watching you point out the little leaks I was thinking that back in the day there was the old leaky bucket. All those little problems ie: leaks add up to a big problem ie: big leak.
air dryer tends to leak alot,, also should have done the in cab air brake check!! you can find it for a bus on here! it checks leakage rate and build up rate
Love these buses and great video as per usual..