Not really clickbait, he actually talked about and covered every aspect of the title, also the thumbnail ain’t no clickbait pg is a real one considering other wows legends CC‘s
If they did add subs to pvp, I would want them to be in the same slot as CVs, so either you face a sub or you face a carrier. And for the Z-52, none of the earlier DDs in the line had a nearly as good sonar. Z-46 is sub 5km and it is only a tier lower.
Daring is better than z52, in therm of impact in game and versatility. Z his just easier to play and rely too much on his sonar, daring have better he dpm, fpm, hp pool, smoke, AP pen angles, torpedoes and agility
Z 52 simply has its very good sonar, in every other subject daring is simply way better in utility Daring with Grozmot is Very BROKEN the fire chance & He damage is stupid
The only thing z52 has over daring is the sonar bro, everybody else about daring is just simple better. So yeah, I would argue daring is still better..z52 without the sonar is really just meh.
First for those who said no subs are coming remember the devs said CVs were not possible remember that I do. And thses who were still saying they well never add subs the devs said it was not possible after CVs happened, what a turn around looks like it is possible as now the devs say Subs vs bots in PvE could happen and I bet well, And once in the game it well be out AI, and Standard modes next, because when they do add the subs they are not going to do the work for just one mode,
Honestly, I do think Z-52 sonar is a bit too strong. I’m glad it wasn’t 4.4 or whatever like the other ones, but the fact that it can sonar from stealth comfortably AND spot other destroyers with sonar before they’re spotted on the water, is a bit much. I’d say just tone the sonar down to 5.2/5.4 at the most, then it feels better to play against while still being strong
Sounds like subs will be added in the same manner the "racing" boats are for the race event. I'm okay with that tbh. I do wish they'd just buff more stuff as opposed too nerfing things even as silly as CC is.
They said they don’t have plans for it for PVP, they only possibly have plans for it for PVE only, so no good players using subs will be facing against other players thankfully if it gets added to PVE since that’s what killed PC world of warships as subs being available in PVP was clearly a huge mistake, they aren’t dumb enough to make the same mistake twice
@@Leo_P1500 but even so what if they added anyways? using submarine must be limited to carrier, for example there is only 1 cv per team, so by following that rule should be equal and okay. on pc there can be up to 2 carriers and in legends is only up to 1 per team
@@supgamer22 yes I get that, and truth be told told, I forgot to mention that they should limit their numbers, it should only be one sub per team in a game, and they should never be allowed into modes like ranked and such for obvious reasons, but yea, one sub per match, one sub per team, and never allowed into ranked, and have limited time staying underwater so they don’t constantly camp, a good way to keep subs from being insanely overpowered (and depth charges should insta kill subs or at the very least leave them with crippling health, cuz why not)
@@that_old_roachi5453 my experience has been wildly inconsistent. Sometimes it pens, other times it shatters and bounces at angles it definitely should have penetrated. The other day I was in a Bayern and shot at a California full flat broadside. 6 of the 8 shots hit and 5 instantly shattered on the flat hull and the 6th went through the super structure. Was total utter BS.
@@kylespringer2355 that’s probably more because cali is stupidly strong than German ap being bad. I’m also amazed how you landed so many shells from Bayern lol that thing sucks
@@masteryoda3992 a lot of heals, 16 guns with improved pen angles, great manoeuvrability and decent concealment, that combined with the fact that that thing is almost impossible to citadel grant it great repositioning abilities (repositioning that tends to be less needed than with other BBs, given the improved pen angles). It’s undeniable that it’s quite a bit too much. Imo, if they tune down the pen angles a little bit and raise the citadel it would be ok.
@@masteryoda3992 I agree on that, but still Colombo is evidently better than any other LT BB, this is also a change to make. This game has tons of things to be fixed, if we want to make a list we would be here for days. Talking about DDs, a thing to do would be making them spawn symmetrically between both teams: I’m tired of using a cruiser or a BB and not being able to move because they have a dd on my spawn that can spot everything and torp anyone that leaves his cover (which he has to do if he wants to shoot at something, since the ally dd has spawned somewhere else). With that being said, I don’t tnink they will ever fix that, like most of the things in the list. We’ve been lucky to at least get the Colombo nerf.
Bro has learned the power of the clickbait, I don’t stand a chance
Not really clickbait, he actually talked about and covered every aspect of the title, also the thumbnail ain’t no clickbait
pg is a real one considering other wows legends CC‘s
Dread it, run from it, Clickbait arrives all the same
@whereruaaron Yeah gotta admit PG's thumbnail game is on point bro never misses
If they did add subs to pvp, I would want them to be in the same slot as CVs, so either you face a sub or you face a carrier. And for the Z-52, none of the earlier DDs in the line had a nearly as good sonar. Z-46 is sub 5km and it is only a tier lower.
If they add subs they need to make it 12v12
The game is better where it is for now. *No subs*
It's a warships game. *Not a diving under water simulator*
"Second best DD behind the Daring at L tier" is the correct answer. Daring also messes up Lushun if you know when to push/disengage
Thinking Daring is better than 52 is the most British thing I've heard today lol.
Itnit?! Yeah pg is washed
Daring is better than z52, in therm of impact in game and versatility. Z his just easier to play and rely too much on his sonar, daring have better he dpm, fpm, hp pool, smoke, AP pen angles, torpedoes and agility
Z 52 simply has its very good sonar, in every other subject daring is simply way better in utility
Daring with Grozmot is Very BROKEN the fire chance & He damage is stupid
The only thing z52 has over daring is the sonar bro, everybody else about daring is just simple better. So yeah, I would argue daring is still better..z52 without the sonar is really just meh.
First for those who said no subs are coming remember the devs said CVs were not possible remember that I do. And thses who were still saying they well never add subs the devs said it was not possible after CVs happened, what a turn around looks like it is possible as now the devs say Subs vs bots in PvE could happen and I bet well,
And once in the game it well be out AI, and Standard modes next, because when they do add the subs they are not going to do the work for just one mode,
Honeslty can't wait for the buff to brisbane, speaking as a radar Mino enjoyer
Daring is actually really good tbh
Jack of all trades but master of none, my fav DD
Honestly, I do think Z-52 sonar is a bit too strong. I’m glad it wasn’t 4.4 or whatever like the other ones, but the fact that it can sonar from stealth comfortably AND spot other destroyers with sonar before they’re spotted on the water, is a bit much. I’d say just tone the sonar down to 5.2/5.4 at the most, then it feels better to play against while still being strong
And what about the ship that cost many 10k doubloons and no one will ever touch again, of course I mean Myogi?
Sounds like subs will be added in the same manner the "racing" boats are for the race event. I'm okay with that tbh. I do wish they'd just buff more stuff as opposed too nerfing things even as silly as CC is.
I wonder if they’ll ever give Weimar its 4th mod slot since there’s no reason to play it bcuz Mainz exists.
They better not add subs. It killed pc version.
They said they don’t have plans for it for PVP, they only possibly have plans for it for PVE only, so no good players using subs will be facing against other players thankfully if it gets added to PVE since that’s what killed PC world of warships as subs being available in PVP was clearly a huge mistake, they aren’t dumb enough to make the same mistake twice
@@Leo_P1500 but even so what if they added anyways? using submarine must be limited to carrier, for example there is only 1 cv per team, so by following that rule should be equal and okay. on pc there can be up to 2 carriers and in legends is only up to 1 per team
@@supgamer22 yes I get that, and truth be told told, I forgot to mention that they should limit their numbers, it should only be one sub per team in a game, and they should never be allowed into modes like ranked and such for obvious reasons, but yea, one sub per match, one sub per team, and never allowed into ranked, and have limited time staying underwater so they don’t constantly camp, a good way to keep subs from being insanely overpowered
(and depth charges should insta kill subs or at the very least leave them with crippling health, cuz why not)
Subs would probably mean 10v10 and I don't think they got it in them long term
where did all your older meme videos go? Kinda severed a good chunk of the interest I had for the main channel
Too old and jaded man pg sleepin
They were struck down by U.K. copyright laws.
@@Admiral_Potato41 damn well thanks for letting me know
gdansk rahh
Z 52 is getting 1 min sonar
At least the game is still getting updates
WG balancing is a mess. CV rework is still broken.
I WANT MY HINDENBURG
Vermont needs an engine
Fr it’s got 5 people each side rowing with paddles
@Junko124 they must be the weakest ones 😂
Incoming subs. Can't be help. Just like cv, flooding and long fires is bread and butter.
How about fixing German AP shells devs. Penetration is crap
German ap is good mate
@@that_old_roachi5453 my experience has been wildly inconsistent. Sometimes it pens, other times it shatters and bounces at angles it definitely should have penetrated. The other day I was in a Bayern and shot at a California full flat broadside. 6 of the 8 shots hit and 5 instantly shattered on the flat hull and the 6th went through the super structure. Was total utter BS.
@@kylespringer2355 that’s probably more because cali is stupidly strong than German ap being bad. I’m also amazed how you landed so many shells from Bayern lol that thing sucks
I hope subs comes
I hope you are joking
@@rubinaakther9188 nah
@@zeroq8506
Same tbh
Subs yes pleaseeeeee
I love how it took 1 year for them to realise Colombo is OP, and then they decide to nerf it precisely when I am about to finish my bureau 🫠
Had to fill all 12 months of the spreadsheet💸💸💸💸
Columbo is not OP
@@masteryoda3992 a lot of heals, 16 guns with improved pen angles, great manoeuvrability and decent concealment, that combined with the fact that that thing is almost impossible to citadel grant it great repositioning abilities (repositioning that tends to be less needed than with other BBs, given the improved pen angles). It’s undeniable that it’s quite a bit too much. Imo, if they tune down the pen angles a little bit and raise the citadel it would be ok.
@@praisethesun566nah WG needs to fix this match making where there is 5 destroyers on each team
@@masteryoda3992 I agree on that, but still Colombo is evidently better than any other LT BB, this is also a change to make. This game has tons of things to be fixed, if we want to make a list we would be here for days. Talking about DDs, a thing to do would be making them spawn symmetrically between both teams: I’m tired of using a cruiser or a BB and not being able to move because they have a dd on my spawn that can spot everything and torp anyone that leaves his cover (which he has to do if he wants to shoot at something, since the ally dd has spawned somewhere else). With that being said, I don’t tnink they will ever fix that, like most of the things in the list. We’ve been lucky to at least get the Colombo nerf.