Fun Fact: Manson is Lily-Rose Depps' godfather. And I agree. This is merely a failed smear campaign by them both. But just like Depp, Manson will rise above it.
Bingo! I think it’s more the cops are saying they are taking all cases seriously and want a good name. But they know it’s not true. These investigations often take years to complete when they’re such high profile cases.
Nope! Wonder what kind of hell they were all going through while the rich man threatened them with expensive lawyers they could never afford to go up against who are waiting to ruin their reputation.
Why are so many people criticizing they way someone looks. It's their actions that are what hurt other people, and I'd like to see the evidence before you decide the guilt of someone....not just because of what they look like
@@VogtTDThat's false. "Wood notes that she has denied forging the "FBI Letter" and declared that she believed it to be authentic when she received it and submitted it to the Court. Thus, the Court agrees with Wood that there is not uncontroverted evidence that conclusively establishes that the assertedly protected speech or petition activity (related to the letter) was illegal as a matter of law."
Marilyn Manson is innocent until proven guilty. No matter how you spin a story without corroboration don't expect people to believe you or believe others blindly. To do so just showcases how dumb you are.
Agree. Not a MM fan, not now, not in highschool, but the media has lost so much of my trust over the last few years and as the OP brings up, it's best to let these matters be vetted by the courts, so long as our justice system remains unbiased.
@@CINEKYD_MEDIA_ARCHIVE it's three years they've raided his house. The investigation into him is said to be winding down. And manson has even started suing them.
@@nathanielbables8652 Said to be winding down? According to whom?? It wouldn't be in the news if it were "winding down". And it took decades for the likes of Cosby, Diddy, R Kelly, Weinstein, et al. How are his defamation suits going, btw? Anyone who thinks he's in the clear is fooling themselves.
@@ShyyyySativaaaa I’m an expert! It goes like this: big bird was going to ask the kids what are they doing in the ford van got after the girl sings twinkle twinkle little star while she’s playing basketball on the WindStar commercial! NBC said, “There’s just 2 reruns from 1998-1999! When you watch Seinfeld season 9! Watch kids sing twinkle twinkle little star while they’re playing basketball, and then big bird asks the kids what are they doing in the ford van! Rerun the WindStar commercial on NBC in 1999! Love from Ian Cole Dahlen Washington!
@@boris2835 well, big bird asks the kids what are they doing in the ford van after the girl sings twinkle twinkle little star while she’s playing basketball on the WindStar commercial rerunning on NBC in 1999!
The police disagree with you. The recent statement made on 10/9/24 by The LADA’s Sex Crimes Division is currently reviewing a case involving Brian Warner, aka Marilyn Manson LOS ANGELES - Statement from Los Angeles County District Attorney George Gascón on the status of Brian Warner, aka Marilyn Manson’s case review by the office’s Sex Crimes Division: “Experienced prosecutors from our office’s Sex Crimes Division are carefully reviewing new leads and additional evidence that continue to come to our attention from the Los Angeles County Sheriff Department’s investigation. New evidence has emerged within the last few weeks, adding to an already extensive case file presented to our office by the LASD. It is our office’s responsibility to ensure that we have a complete picture of the admissible evidence available before making a filing decision. Senior staff members have met with victims, and our prosecutors continue to remain in contact with the victims and their representatives throughout this process. We are committed to making sure they are treated with dignity and respect. I have received requests from victims to meet personally to discuss the case, however, as the case is being investigated it would be inappropriate for me, as District Attorney, to meet with victims during this time. We anticipate making a filing decision soon and will provide an update when that time comes. At that time, *I look forward to meeting with the victims* to discuss how my office can continue to support them.”
@@PHlophe LOL. This was not "known" in 2002. These allegations didn't come out until earlier this decade. Anyway, he's been popular since the the '90s, so obviously he built up a fan base for decades before anyone heard of these allegations. I acknowledge the allegations, want them to be investigated, and justice should be done. I don't know what else you want from me.
Consensual seks acts don't turn into rape just because you regret your involvement later. It was fine, until like a miracle they all got their 'repressed memories' back all at the same time. Apparently there were no memories coming back when they attended several Manson shows YEARS AFTER the alleged abuse. No, they had a great time backstage. Why attend a show of a 'monster' that almost destroyed your life? Who held you hostage and locked you up. You go see him years later voluntarily, showing what a great time you have at his concert? You show pictures online from the time you were with Manson, saying you were never happier, YEARS after he 'almost killed and starved' you? No, you got dumped and he moved on. Evan Rachel Wood got some serious backlash about her relationship with Manson and for the video of Heartshaped glasses, which she fiercly defended for many many years, so she turned it into a 'rape on camera' to shed all responsibilty of her own actions. There were many people on the set that day and have come forward saying nothing like that happened and that she was very much involved on how the scenes were filmed and was not 'wasted out of her mind' in any way. Also the Hitler salut she is seen doing many times was not something Manson forced her to do. She also forged an FBI letter to keep her son away from his father.
It's understandable to wonder why someone would choose to be with a man known for his unsettling image and abusive music, especially when there are many other options. However, society often places all the blame on the abuser while not holding victims accountable for their own choices or actions. In Manson’s / Epstein's case, women later claim abuse after years of being in the spotlight with him, enjoying the fame and benefits that came with it. Some now compare younger photos of themselves with Manson, emphasizing the power imbalance as a way to paint him as the abuser. While manipulation can play a role, it’s also important to acknowledge that these women had agency and chose to stay in these relationships for years, even attending his shows after the alleged abuse. There’s a fine line between understanding trauma and placing responsibility. Manson’s image and music were always controversial, yet they willingly associated with him. In many cases, it seems more like regret or changing social dynamics is driving these accusations rather than genuine late realizations of abuse.
These ridiculous allegations against famous people by women needs to stop. You cant consent to things during the time its happening then turn around and say you didnt want to do it. Thats not rape!
@@Hes008 I agree. It's overboard. All of these constant stream of accusations cannot all be true. More likely it's just become a Gravy train since the real one
That’s why they need to restore statutes of limitations. If these guys weren’t rich and famous NONE of these women would be paying them the slightest attention.
They raided Diddy's mansion and instantly found enough to have him held until trial. They raided Manson's home years ago and still no charges. Perhaps he's innocent?
He’s pretty normal in some ways. I’ve seen him on talk shows, advocating for civil liberties. He wasn’t hostile and could really carry on a conversation. That said, he has a terrible track record in relationships. He’s probably miserable to be around.
@@keith1854You people who make such comments are just as much a part of the problems as the perpetrators! I'm sure I'd something as horrific as SA happened to your sister, niece, female friends (assuming you have any friends) you'd have a different comment and opinion!
Abusers don’t target everyone they chose vulnerable people and are nice and altruistic to others. Abuse is a secret. So it’s not a surprise that others say he didn’t do the same to them.
@@iheartlol90 why were these women seeking him out and wanting relationships with him? And kept going back? For so long times they stayed with him and they even had the money and power to leave at any time unlike women in poverty. Frankly their accusations are suspicious and no evidence has really been shown. As usual it is all just accusations
@@tw8464 sometimes victims do go back, it’s well documented so it doesn’t mean they’re lying. I think the testimony of Evan is evidence, the pictures the accuser submitted are evidence. But he hasn’t been brought on charges so no other evidence has been released.
@iheartlol90 I agree with u, it's possible. He could well be a manipulative person. Abuse is also possible. So too there are other possibilities. Respectfully, the photos could be evidence in context but also aren't exactly a "slam dunk." The photo being shown on social media is some marks on the body that could be abuse or could be from something else. If I see other evidence, I'll change my mind. I'm suspicious because it seems this guy with a deliberate monstrous appearance yet apparently has no problems having girlfriends. It seems some women seek him out or are attracted to him. Now I agree there are definitely bad manipulative people out there who can get abused people to keep coming back to them. However I'm skeptical he would be able to do this with numerous women, which you'd have to believe if believe the allegations. Typically the abusers have more than just psychological hold over the victims, often the women are also in sone bad position like no money, often with kids, bad relationship with parents or no friends, isolation, sectarian fundamentalist extremist control systems, etc. But here, there are many external factors, the women have money, they have friends, they have some power. Again to be clear, I'm not saying it's not impossible he could manipulate or control them, despite all that. I'm just saying it's less likely. He would have to be an extraordinary manipulator. But in these fame seeking situations, there are more reasons to be suspicious of all these endless stream of accusations. There could be many things going on that don't make these fame seeking and similar personalities potentially competitive or vindictive intrigues, exactly the "equivalent" of most domestic violence impoverished women and families suffer, and could be a different thing altogether, just false accusations.
I love his music, have done so for over 10 years and will probably never fully let go. That said, I obviously stand with the accusers. Had you asked me a few years ago, I would have said no or tried to appear "neutral". However, after meeting real life survivors and realizing how they talk and share their stories, I realized life is not black and white. I mean this in a way that not all victims act the same, speak about it instantly or feel confident enough to even share their story to begin with. Many choose to hide their abuse for years, only sharing bits and blaming themselves. We are conditioned to question victims, which honestly is sickening. When there's smoke... and there sure is lots of it in his book. I want to apologize to each and every person these men have hurt and I want to apologize for not taking survivors as seriously when I was still a young adult. My heart truly goes out for all of you struggling about these news, no matter where you are currently in your life journey or what you have experienced throughout the years.
His stage name alone told a story. He named himself after murderous cult leader, Charles Manson. The survivors of his crimes were still very alive while Marilyn Manson was immortalizing him this way. The girls that went anywhere near that guy are as stupid as Charles Mansons harem girls. Very very very stupid. Stupidity needs to be shamed more so that people stop making such stupid choices.
Your rent is late, your kids are losers, you work a miserable job, you have nothing in your savings. Please pay attention to your own life. This man is more talented and wealthy than you will ever be..... Goodbye 👋
So she went to the press because the DA basically told her they did not have a case and she forced their hand to try and pin him with something. What a joke, can't wait to see this blow up.
Gonna go out on a limb here, and assume anyone who needs "evidence," when some as already been shown in the video, are the same types that think an election was stolen without any of said "evidence" required. 😢
Most of these women are already independently wealthy from their own careers. I don’t see much upside to them coming forward publicly with these accusations, so I’m inclined to believe them. I’ve noticed that, historically, people making things up to defame somebody seems like a less common occurrence than them just actually telling the truth about somebody being awful. Unfortunately, there are lots of awful people out there who harm others
@@Teeveepicksures what would that be, though? The nature of these kinds of crimes is that they take place in intimate settings were often there is nobody else around except for the accuser and the accused. Like what piece of evidence would you consider satisfactory? Also, evidence only applies to criminal guilt. That doesn’t mean something didn’t happen. Unfortunately, lots of people get away with things
@@Teeveepicksures Not everyone is comfortable listening to, voting for, or otherwise enjoying the work of someone responsible for such a heinous, unforgivable crime. I'm not a fan of Manson, but if I was, I would want to know the truth before I bought his next album. It's your choice to live your life without caring for victims, or wanting justice. Guy wants to enjoy his music, AND not feel like a hypocrite POS when he goes to bed at night.
That is the most idiotic assumption I've ever heard. Like "normal" looking men don't hurt people? Do you think that everyone who looks alternative is a violent, sadistic abuser? Honestly, think about what you're saying.
Meanwhile, the LA county sheriff's office has been investigating him for three years and has produced no solid evidence for charges to be brought. Additionally, Ms. Wood is a long time best friend of Amber heard. Did we already forget the clown show that was the trial brought against Johnny Dep. These actresses only bring up these false accusations when their work opportunities dry up and the fins that Fendi, Prada, and Berkin are once again outside of their price range.
Amber Heards case was different. I believe she was the aggressor there because of the recordings, his injuries and and also there being no other person making such claims. Mansons case is the complete opposite. It’s many women over a long period combined with long running rumors and his own depraved book.
Johnny Depp and Marilyn Manson have much more in common than just drug addiction, e.g. they also have violent misogyny in common with each other. Amber Heard was the victim between her and Johnny Depp, but she was dealt with a bunch of jurors and a judge who weren't good enough to be in those roles. I hope at least M.M.'s victims can have satisfaction.
@@JocelynFT How do you know it’s a lie?? Where you there? Have you even read his book? He admits to inviting women from his shows backstage to have sex with them and humiliate them. It’s so far to reach that he never assaulted any of them? No one believed diddy had sex parties either. Look what happened with him…
@@Honeymoon1988 lol I’m glad you mention Diddy because we can compare the two. Diddy was accused of assault and within a matter of a few months evidence surfaced of him and he was arrested in 6 months. These women have been claiming to have 100s of photos and videos as evidence and nothing has come forward. The only things they’ve shown publicly are things that make them look questionable. Like Evan dressed as a Nazi, or Evan doing Nazi salutes and everyone on Manson’s team feeling weird about her. Many people have come forward to contest her statements. The idea that she was raped in her music video is the craziest lie yet, considering it takes weeks to shoot them and tons of people are present. It’s not a one take and done. Also other people who were present for that have come forward to contest those claims and also stated that she was incredibly happy with the video and celebrated it for months and years after. Which is easily corroborated by Evan’s own statements at the time which she is trying real hard to get people to ignore. Many woman have come forward to verify that Evan and Illma were trying to recruit anyone who may have a grudge against Manson and also entice them with the idea of taking down a “bad man” who is already being investigated by the FBI- also a huge lie. It’s not hard to find a couple of crack pots to do so. As far as his book, he’s said many times throughout the years that he did not write it. He intentionally wanted a book that encompassed all the hysteria the crazy Christian people were already saying about him complied into a book just to enflame the rumors. Manson didn’t care to correct salacious rumors because it’s more entertaining to expose the sensationalism of said rumors. If you actually did real research and it take everything from Evan’s very carefully constructed point of view then you’d know this. I started out trying to verify the information because the metoo movement is important to me as a victim myself. I’m incredibly angered to see women use it as a stepping stool for money but unfortunately there’s a lot of shitty people who do things like that in Hollywood.
Esme bianco is a LIAR, period! Women like this make it harder for real victims to be taken seriously and get the help they need, she is a disgrace. All of the women who got together and did this are...
“Well, what we did was we pulled a trick that I’ve become quite famous for. It is pouring a large glass of tequila for your adversary, or your victim, and then pouring a large glass of beer for yourself and pretending that yours is tequila also. You convince them to drink down their large glass until they vomit and pass out and are left to be tormented. A similar trick had been done to me when I was young. “ “I’ve always been paranoid about the police, because even when I’m not doing anything illegal I’m thinking about doing something illegal.” “I walked away exhilarated by my success, because there’s nothing like making a difference in someone’s life, even if that difference is a lifetime of nightmares and a fortune in therapy bills” These are all admittances from his autobiography. He’s been a creep for a long time. Hope his victims get justice.
And yet his stupid fans will just deflect and say it was all made up, except there's plenty of interviews over the years with him saying similar things
He literally said in an interview it was all made up and about 6 people we know of that were mentioned in the book have said he lied about them but everyone knows it’s fake.
@@danse777macabre Well, I am a proud "stupid" Marilyn Manson fan. Will I stop listening to his music id he's guilty... Absolutely NOT! If he's innocent, that's a bonus. And FIY, I have a degree in molecular biology and biomedical sciences, so I can't be that stupid....
It is the eternal problem that is so common even in this day and age. Many women think they can try and heal men, almost like a second mother. They think they can bring out the good in this type of man; it springs from pity, like finding an orphaned animal. Then, when they are drawn into a relationship, they are gaslighted and manipulated and abused. Then after they are discarded, the woman is led to believe that it was all her fault.
@@Alex-i8h5x all from people who were stalking him. Bianca Kyne accused him of assaulting her and how she was terrified and wanted to escape him and then goes on to follow him to every show on his tour at her own expense. Rose McGowan wrote about her experience with Manson on that very same tour. I wonder which one is lying lol
yes and they were all proven false. Same with now, no corroboration after years of investigating and Gascon even admits there is not enough to convict him on. Sit down.
@@JocelynFT Quit your lying. Brian Warner bragged about sexually abusing a fan in his own book. 1998. He is long overdue for a lifetime prison sentence.
@@JocelynFT exactly. I don't know what actually happened or didn't. No one knows. But these women were in relationships with him and liked him much of the time. They could be telling the truth or lying together
Why don't you guys actually address the evidence that the accusers are lying, rather than proffer that he might be guilty because so and so said such and such?
If Sean Combs is being held accountable, so should Marilyn Manson. Anyone who did or is continuing to stan for him is wasting their time, especially when false allegations of abuse are rare. He is a predator and a disgrace who needs to be gone from the music industry.
I agree with you. Johnny Depp and Marilyn Manson have much more in common than just drug addiction, e.g. they also have violent misogyny in common with each other. Amber Heard was the victim between her and Johnny Depp, but she was dealt with a bunch of jurors and a judge who weren't good enough to be in those roles. I hope at least M.M.'s victims can have satisfaction.
Sean Combs and Marilyn Manson are innocent. Where is the proof? It's all just broke people that want money. Maybe someone should accuse you of something you never did and have millions of people slander your name.
@@Zacht1980 these people don’t follow any case. They don’t even have enough data to form an opinion. They just don’t have anyone to talk to so they come in this fake world called, The Internet hoping they are heard here from a bunch of AI drones
@@jsacodes916 he is Marilyn Manson to the world because clearly they don’t know Brian Warner. Look into the cases before you make assumptions, these women are lying. Evan is incredibly quiet now because she is about to be humiliated in court. Esme settled already so her speaking out now is all just a circus act and her taking advantage of the election season. Nothing will result from this little headline parade of hollow words and hollow actions. There is no evidence at all.
For the dumb people in the comments, he didn’t do it and if you bring his book up one more time I’m gonna loose it. His “accusers” have withdrawn their claims and actually claimed evan Rachel wood is lying. The book was a ploy to become famous and to shock.
No one is slut shaming. They literally are lying. The investigation was closed in 2022 and Gascón has been sitting on the case because the evidence shows they lied. Esme already settled her case. And her evidence leaked when she went to court with Manson. All of us actually paying close attention saw that evidence and it’s not even evidence. It’s worse than AH. Evan got with Illma, a known Grifter, and decided they want to activists, they got with Ashley Walters who was a disgruntled ex employee who had access to all his accounts and contacts and they went through and looked for women they could manipulate into accusing Manson. One of the high profile “accusers” already recanted her accusations and not only admitted it was a lie but signed an affidavit on Manson’s behalf detailing how Evan and Illma recruited her and others. Many other women have also come forward in Manson’s defense and also claim to have been contacted by Evan. When you actually look in to it, Evan “pretty persuasion’d” them. And if you haven’t seen that movie go check it out
I think you meant to say, "the amount of pretend victims unable to take accountability and responsibility for their own actions and trying to find a payday is fucking disgusting". That's more like it.
Ignore them, ignore their lies & gaslighting. The rapist has paid bots out here trying to control the narrative. He doesn't want to be held accountable for his crimes.
Don't be an idiot. He got Marilyn from Marilyn Monroe and Manson from Charles Manson to reflect American society's obsessions, particularly how the media tells stories. The original band members had the first names of famous models and last names of infamous killers.
@@MGunners9 I think you like Marilyn Manson way too much. I never liked it. I always had good taste, and I always made sense of art, even when I was a child. I always knew Marilyn Manson was phony and a waste of time, and I'm concerned about the people who like that kind of thing.
@@regismonktonyou know nothing about him. That photo was taken off the internet (not her), there’s a fake FBI letter that was filed and paid accusers. He’s smarter, kinder and more humble than you are. I know this. I know him. He’s also a philosophy freak which is reflected in his lyrics. He’s also an artist in more than one medium. I met him 27 years ago and he’s NOT the monster you’re looking for. I’m also a real survivor and he’s NEVER raised any red 🚩. I wouldn’t have stuck around. How can someone like him “too much “ when they KNOW he’s being falsely accused? Or when they understand his art & also know he’s NOT that guy? His life has been ripped apart for NOTHING. BUT since you’re so perfect with your fine taste in whatever you didn’t mention….throw your rocks and hide your hands. You want to know what Zeus said to Narcissist …..
@@MGunners9 What are you like 15 years old? And did you really say "don't be an idiot" because I don't think it's cool to pick a stage name after an insane narcissistic cult leader who got his members strung out on dope and commanded them to brutally kill people? There may be an idiot here but it isnt me
An Amber Heard story, as in the story of a woman who was actually confirmed by the court to have been abused? By a man who has more money than her, more physical strength than her, more support from the public than her, and a raging drug addiction? I do see the similarities between Brian Warner and Johnny Depp, when I look at that list.
Johnny Depp and Marilyn Manson have much more in common than just drug addiction, e.g. they also have violent misogyny in common with each other. Amber Heard was the victim between her and Johnny Depp, but she was dealt with a bunch of jurors and a judge who weren't good enough to be in those roles. I hope at least M.M.'s victims can have satisfaction.
You mean like mister Rogers neighborhood reran on NET, PBS, KidZone, and PBS kids from 1969-2002 just like the subway logo at the end of the kids pack commercial of blue’s clues: blue’s birthday toys rerunning on Nick Jr. in 1999?
@@therealeverlade you’re just wondering! I asked you mister Rogers neighborhood: learning 1655 reran on PBS in 1993 before KidZone was launched on prairie public television with KidZone kid of the day starting in August 30th? Remember?
I'm on your side. Johnny Depp and Marilyn Manson have much more in common than just drug addiction, e.g. they also have violent misogyny in common with each other. Amber Heard was the victim between her and Johnny Depp, but she was dealt with a bunch of jurors and a judge who weren't good enough to be in those roles. I hope at least M.M.'s victims can have satisfaction.
I met this man twice and he was the nicest man I’ve ever met! I don’t believe a single allegation and I believe any woman who says she was abused is asking for attention. They are absolutely crazy and are not credible
No, I googled it. It’s a picture of him sitting alone at a table and his incel supporters claim Rose McGowan was there. But apparently invisible. What a joke.
@@Orchidaceous1I met Rose recently and told her i am a fan of her ex and she had only positive things to say. She said its not fair what is being done to him.
This is why it is necessary to have a legal document on intense sexual acts. That way, both parties know what they are getting themselves into. Clue: safe word.
@aaronsinger It's hyperbole. I'm not asking you. The question is rhetorical. I'm expressing my disbelief at the amount of celebrities who have been accused of SA in the last few weeks. There are dozens. I think the bigger problem here is yr own good self...Dim-witted is fine. That can't be helped. But that venomous tongue...
@@Lily-cm3njDefinitely. As is the case with 99% of comments like this, it's projection. They only know their own little world because they are all that matters. So it makes sense they believe that everybody operates via the same method as them.
@@Lily-cm3nj Definitely. As is the case with 99% of comments like this, it's projection. They only know their own little world because they are all that matters. So it makes sense they believe that everybody operates via the same method as them.
@@Lily-cm3nj Definitely. As is the case with 95% of comments like this, it's projection. People who only know their own little world, so it makes sense to them that everybody operates via the same method as them.
know the saying "to each their own" ? i don't care for him either, but i also believe any and all country music is as bad if not worse, slow,boring,whiny bullshit. does that mean anything beyond my opinion? absolutely not and it shouldn't, just because i think it's absoulute ass doesn't mean others can't enjoy it. i bet I'd hate some of your favorite things and vice versa.
It's so frustrating having to listen to people come after Marilyn Manson over and over again. People just don't have lives. Hasn't Marilyn Manson been through enough in life, can he simply exist in peace? My God, why can't people just stfu and leave the dude alone?
Ever hear of these pre-Manson singers/bands: Eldon "Il Duce" Hoke (Mentors), GG Allin, Ian Stuart (Skrewdriver) or Varg Vikernes (Burzum)? These artists were all FAR MORE extreme than Marilyn Manson, yet didn't receive half the publicity !
ZERO evidence, ZERO people who aren’t actors or friends of the business, ZERO initial accountability and action taken at the exact time - all just happening to come out of nowhere at the same time.
Esme Bianco. Does everyone remember her? She was Ros, the prostitute that betrayed Littlefinger and was murdered by Joffrey with a crossbow in the show Game of Thrones.
There have been accusations against him taken to the police for nearly two decades now. The sad thing is, when a woman who has been victimized by a man, she cannot force the police to care. Read about it. The accusations against Brian Warner have been going on for ages.
@@Orchidaceous1 Fair Enough...I do understand the stigma of abuse on a personal level. If he is guilty his victims must force his prosecution and accountability
@@LucyLoulovesyouwhy did she go to the police after they broke up then ? How come she never came forward the first time ? Bc she was okay with it as long as she was getting paid 100%
Innocent until PROVEN BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT guilty. These witches just want attention, money, or revenge for getting dumped or cheated on. I've seen it happen many times. Sometimes there's no reason at all, it's just a rush for them to know they can destroy someone's life
Evan Rachel Woods wanted a documentary and child custody, not what you listed, though that may be true for the other accusers. HBO wouldn’t have made her documentary “Phoenix Rising” without her naming her abuser. Regardless of whether *someone* abused her or not, she decided to name Manson since he’s an easy target and still had enough name recognition amongst the public to interest HBO. She successfully terrified her child, and still lost custody to Jamie Bell, who doesn’t believe her accusations. I feel like Esme was disappointed with her settlement amount and, based on her words when she first spoke up about this, may be upset that he dumped her. She mentioned crying on her plane as she left California after the alleged abuse. But she wasn’t crying about the “abuse” - but that she’d miss his company. In addition, she admitted that he asked for her permission to “manhandle” her for the project they worked on. She may also be upset he never used the footage. I wish I could remember where I read that story, but it was shortly after Evan named him as her abuser.
As a lifelong fan I no longer have to time for a aging accused rapist trying to claw his way back to the middle. Most I won't just forget 2 decades of bloated shitty shows.
I encourage everyone who thinks Manson is guilty at face value to read the court documents. There's enough in the public filings to convince me that he's innocent. I'm not telling you to believe people like me outright, just look into it for yourself. (Not "I DiD mY OwN rEaSeArCh" type stuff. Read the actual legal filings)
Evan Rachel Wood has already been caught red-handed in a scheme where she and a friend impersonated an FBI agent in trying to solicit information from other women.
What is deeply disconcerting is that within a court setting a sexual predator will be asked by their defence council if they have raped the victim(s) who have gathered the strength to hold the perp accountable. The perp usually answers "No." If only the accused had the humanity and the strength in character to say "Yes." To accept, be accountable for, and to recognize their actions. And, from prison, they may wish to choose to spend the minimum of 25 years working on their pathology(ies) rather than spend all of their time on any of the other activities that a prisoner can be focused on.
I'm all for any of these celebrities who have been evil in the shadows to be exposed, but at the same time there needs to be extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claima, and these days it seems everyone is being claimed by someone as an "abuser" for clout and money.
Losers love liars til their dying day.
This is bullshit. These women signed up for it, man.
Maybe losers are people who love him since he's the liar
Evan Rachel Wood strikes me as Amber Heard 2.0
She's her best friend. They tried to cancel and ruin Johnny and they're doing the same with Manson.
Fun Fact: Manson is Lily-Rose Depps' godfather.
And I agree. This is merely a failed smear campaign by them both.
But just like Depp, Manson will rise above it.
Evan Rachel Wood (main accuser) makes Amber Heard look like a good honest woman to date.
i could never tell those birds apart
@@rickm3779 she's amber if amber was smart.
Didn't a bunch of his accusers withdraw their charges saying they were all conspiring together with his ex girlfriend and pressured to file charges ?
Bingo! I think it’s more the cops are saying they are taking all cases seriously and want a good name. But they know it’s not true. These investigations often take years to complete when they’re such high profile cases.
Nope! Wonder what kind of hell they were all going through while the rich man threatened them with expensive lawyers they could never afford to go up against who are waiting to ruin their reputation.
@@allytrudie864 they’re all actresses, they can afford more than he can
They all went out with him for years! and now they come up with accusations, why? Because they need the $$$$
@@allytrudie864wrong. Do some research.
Why are so many people criticizing they way someone looks. It's their actions that are what hurt other people, and I'd like to see the evidence before you decide the guilt of someone....not just because of what they look like
That entire celebrity space is just a filthy, corrupt, degenerate space that needs to go..
It boggles my mind some women even think about dating that guy! What does that say about them!
WHOEVER YOU ARE-
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@@kateskeys You’re welcome
😂 Now do businesses, government, police, trash collection. It ain't "celebrity" it's humanity.
Yeah this'll happen soon as society stops putting celebrity on a pedestal, don't hold your breath. 😢
The woman accusing him forged FBI documents.
How do you forge fbi documents?😅
@@G.Martinez916 What do you mean how? Are you a little slow? She wrote a letter claiming to be an FBI agent and put an FBI seal on it.
@@VogtTDThat's false. "Wood notes that she has denied forging the
"FBI Letter" and declared that she believed it to be authentic when she received it and submitted it to the Court. Thus, the Court agrees with Wood that there is not uncontroverted evidence that conclusively establishes that the assertedly protected speech or petition activity (related to the letter) was illegal as a matter of law."
@@annebelcourt7309 LOL. Well if she denies it, she MUST be telling the truth. And there’s no possibility that one of her friends wrote it, right?
@@VogtTD Court agreed with her.
Marilyn Manson is innocent until proven guilty. No matter how you spin a story without corroboration don't expect people to believe you or believe others blindly. To do so just showcases how dumb you are.
Keep dreaming
Agree. Not a MM fan, not now, not in highschool, but the media has lost so much of my trust over the last few years and as the OP brings up, it's best to let these matters be vetted by the courts, so long as our justice system remains unbiased.
There are no official charges against Brian Warner.
Bingo ❤
Yet.
I doubt they would hold up in court.
@@CINEKYD_MEDIA_ARCHIVE it's three years they've raided his house. The investigation into him is said to be winding down. And manson has even started suing them.
@@nathanielbables8652 Said to be winding down? According to whom?? It wouldn't be in the news if it were "winding down". And it took decades for the likes of Cosby, Diddy, R Kelly, Weinstein, et al. How are his defamation suits going, btw? Anyone who thinks he's in the clear is fooling themselves.
If everyone were treated equally by the justice system, this sort of crap wouldn’t happen so often, in my opinion.
You mean like the Statue of Liberty was on the street with the New York City and a tugboat on the Sesame Street credits only on NBC?
@@IanDahlenthe sad part is…. I’m sure you thought that was clever! 😅
@@ShyyyySativaaaa I’m an expert! It goes like this: big bird was going to ask the kids what are they doing in the ford van got after the girl sings twinkle twinkle little star while she’s playing basketball on the WindStar commercial! NBC said, “There’s just 2 reruns from 1998-1999! When you watch Seinfeld season 9! Watch kids sing twinkle twinkle little star while they’re playing basketball, and then big bird asks the kids what are they doing in the ford van! Rerun the WindStar commercial on NBC in 1999! Love from Ian Cole Dahlen Washington!
@@IanDahlen what?
@@boris2835 well, big bird asks the kids what are they doing in the ford van after the girl sings twinkle twinkle little star while she’s playing basketball on the WindStar commercial rerunning on NBC in 1999!
If it's true, he deserves punished. But the proof should come before the verdict.
More than a dozen separate accounts is plenty evidence
@pantalaemon2795 They're after the money 💰. It is easier to get paid and afford lawyers when it's a collective. Wouldn't be the first time.
@@pantalaemon2795 Accusations are not evidence. That's the point of innocent until proven guilty.
Unfortunately it’s guilty till proven innocent
Brian Warner is the ONLY SURVIVOR here.
Lies lies lies
💯💯
It’s dragging out because he’s innocent. These women are liars.
The police disagree with you.
The recent statement made on 10/9/24 by The LADA’s Sex Crimes Division is currently reviewing a case involving Brian Warner, aka Marilyn Manson
LOS ANGELES - Statement from Los Angeles County District Attorney George Gascón on the status of Brian Warner, aka Marilyn Manson’s case review by the office’s Sex Crimes Division:
“Experienced prosecutors from our office’s Sex Crimes Division are carefully reviewing new leads and additional evidence that continue to come to our attention from the Los Angeles County Sheriff Department’s investigation. New evidence has emerged within the last few weeks, adding to an already extensive case file presented to our office by the LASD. It is our office’s responsibility to ensure that we have a complete picture of the admissible evidence available before making a filing decision. Senior staff members have met with victims, and our prosecutors continue to remain in contact with the victims and their representatives throughout this process. We are committed to making sure they are treated with dignity and respect. I have received requests from victims to meet personally to discuss the case, however, as the case is being investigated it would be inappropriate for me, as District Attorney, to meet with victims during this time. We anticipate making a filing decision soon and will provide an update when that time comes. At that time, *I look forward to meeting with the victims* to discuss how my office can continue to support them.”
It's dragging out because Gascon doesn't do his job.
@@annebelcourt7309 maybe Gascon is as dodgy as the woman.
@@tracey108 You must really hate women.
He is not innocent you just need therapy
“Wood is known for…” nothing. Literally nothing. She’s known for Being Marilyn Manson’s Ex ™️. Her roles are mostly forgotten, at best.
I'm a Marilyn Manson Stan, but if he's guilty, he's going to have to face the music just like anyone else...
you've been a stan and this was known as early as 2002 . this says a lot about you
@@PHlophe LOL. This was not "known" in 2002. These allegations didn't come out until earlier this decade. Anyway, he's been popular since the the '90s, so obviously he built up a fan base for decades before anyone heard of these allegations. I acknowledge the allegations, want them to be investigated, and justice should be done. I don't know what else you want from me.
He was awesome to see live a couple months ago!
Pine Knob!
Consensual seks acts don't turn into rape just because you regret your involvement later. It was fine, until like a miracle they all got their 'repressed memories' back all at the same time. Apparently there were no memories coming back when they attended several Manson shows YEARS AFTER the alleged abuse. No, they had a great time backstage. Why attend a show of a 'monster' that almost destroyed your life? Who held you hostage and locked you up. You go see him years later voluntarily, showing what a great time you have at his concert? You show pictures online from the time you were with Manson, saying you were never happier, YEARS after he 'almost killed and starved' you? No, you got dumped and he moved on. Evan Rachel Wood got some serious backlash about her relationship with Manson and for the video of Heartshaped glasses, which she fiercly defended for many many years, so she turned it into a 'rape on camera' to shed all responsibilty of her own actions. There were many people on the set that day and have come forward saying nothing like that happened and that she was very much involved on how the scenes were filmed and was not 'wasted out of her mind' in any way. Also the Hitler salut she is seen doing many times was not something Manson forced her to do. She also forged an FBI letter to keep her son away from his father.
Thank you. They're doing the same to Diddy
@@nunyabidness6989 the Diddy case is not the same.
It's understandable to wonder why someone would choose to be with a man known for his unsettling image and abusive music, especially when there are many other options. However, society often places all the blame on the abuser while not holding victims accountable for their own choices or actions. In Manson’s / Epstein's case, women later claim abuse after years of being in the spotlight with him, enjoying the fame and benefits that came with it. Some now compare younger photos of themselves with Manson, emphasizing the power imbalance as a way to paint him as the abuser. While manipulation can play a role, it’s also important to acknowledge that these women had agency and chose to stay in these relationships for years, even attending his shows after the alleged abuse. There’s a fine line between understanding trauma and placing responsibility. Manson’s image and music were always controversial, yet they willingly associated with him. In many cases, it seems more like regret or changing social dynamics is driving these accusations rather than genuine late realizations of abuse.
This is an interresting thread
These ridiculous allegations against famous people by women needs to stop.
You cant consent to things during the time its happening then turn around and say you didnt want to do it.
Thats not rape!
@@Hes008 I agree. It's overboard. All of these constant stream of accusations cannot all be true. More likely it's just become a Gravy train since the real one
That’s why they need to restore statutes of limitations. If these guys weren’t rich and famous NONE of these women would be paying them the slightest attention.
No one consented to being in an abusive relationship. Hope this helps.
@@tinyyogini congrats on missing the point ENTIRELY
@@tektako Exactly! A sad, but true issue going on in our country.
They raided Diddy's mansion and instantly found enough to have him held until trial.
They raided Manson's home years ago and still no charges.
Perhaps he's innocent?
Or he has deep ties to MS-13.
He's just more sleazy
Exactly, no proof of anything!! Man is innocent and a big coordinated plan with these woman from the start
Exactly. It's a disgusting hoax.
So what's crazy to me is, why are you even involved with a man that looks like that???
She’s full of crap
@@keith1854your mother must be so proud of you Keith. Bravo.
He’s pretty normal in some ways. I’ve seen him on talk shows, advocating for civil liberties. He wasn’t hostile and could really carry on a conversation. That said, he has a terrible track record in relationships. He’s probably miserable to be around.
@@Alex-i8h5x she is extremely proud of me, your little attempt to insult me doesn’t work, I’m not a liberal pal
@@keith1854You people who make such comments are just as much a part of the problems as the perpetrators! I'm sure I'd something as horrific as SA happened to your sister, niece, female friends (assuming you have any friends) you'd have a different comment and opinion!
Funny how you didn’t mention the photo of her ‘wipped back’ was actually an image she got off the internet 🙄🤔
Exactly
She didn't. It's insane how much misinformation you're spreading.
@@annebelcourt7309 She did, she deleted the post after people reverse image searched it. I saw it on there, then deleted LMAO.
She did @@annebelcourt7309
Abusers don’t target everyone they chose vulnerable people and are nice and altruistic to others. Abuse is a secret. So it’s not a surprise that others say he didn’t do the same to them.
But there would still be evidence.
@@iheartlol90 why were these women seeking him out and wanting relationships with him? And kept going back? For so long times they stayed with him and they even had the money and power to leave at any time unlike women in poverty. Frankly their accusations are suspicious and no evidence has really been shown. As usual it is all just accusations
@@tw8464 sometimes victims do go back, it’s well documented so it doesn’t mean they’re lying. I think the testimony of Evan is evidence, the pictures the accuser submitted are evidence. But he hasn’t been brought on charges so no other evidence has been released.
@iheartlol90 I agree with u, it's possible. He could well be a manipulative person. Abuse is also possible. So too there are other possibilities. Respectfully, the photos could be evidence in context but also aren't exactly a "slam dunk." The photo being shown on social media is some marks on the body that could be abuse or could be from something else. If I see other evidence, I'll change my mind. I'm suspicious because it seems this guy with a deliberate monstrous appearance yet apparently has no problems having girlfriends. It seems some women seek him out or are attracted to him. Now I agree there are definitely bad manipulative people out there who can get abused people to keep coming back to them. However I'm skeptical he would be able to do this with numerous women, which you'd have to believe if believe the allegations. Typically the abusers have more than just psychological hold over the victims, often the women are also in sone bad position like no money, often with kids, bad relationship with parents or no friends, isolation, sectarian fundamentalist extremist control systems, etc. But here, there are many external factors, the women have money, they have friends, they have some power. Again to be clear, I'm not saying it's not impossible he could manipulate or control them, despite all that. I'm just saying it's less likely. He would have to be an extraordinary manipulator. But in these fame seeking situations, there are more reasons to be suspicious of all these endless stream of accusations. There could be many things going on that don't make these fame seeking and similar personalities potentially competitive or vindictive intrigues, exactly the "equivalent" of most domestic violence impoverished women and families suffer, and could be a different thing altogether, just false accusations.
Rose Mgowan was definitely vulnerable, Manson was drawn in by her tragic past yet she said he never abused her and he was very sweet.
Nobody believe ANY OF YOU. HOW MUCH YOU SEEKING?
For a moment there when they showed his picture I thought that was Nicolas Cage in make-up. The face similarities are uncanny.
You mean like Peter Jennings’ face was on the ABC world news commercial rerunning on this channel in 2001?
😂😂😂😂
Ok now I can't unimagine that 😭 ughhhb
The two are actually friends
@@nathanielbables8652 oh, yeah!
I love his music, have done so for over 10 years and will probably never fully let go. That said, I obviously stand with the accusers. Had you asked me a few years ago, I would have said no or tried to appear "neutral". However, after meeting real life survivors and realizing how they talk and share their stories, I realized life is not black and white. I mean this in a way that not all victims act the same, speak about it instantly or feel confident enough to even share their story to begin with. Many choose to hide their abuse for years, only sharing bits and blaming themselves. We are conditioned to question victims, which honestly is sickening. When there's smoke... and there sure is lots of it in his book.
I want to apologize to each and every person these men have hurt and I want to apologize for not taking survivors as seriously when I was still a young adult.
My heart truly goes out for all of you struggling about these news, no matter where you are currently in your life journey or what you have experienced throughout the years.
I’ve heard horror stories about this guy for years
Greig Nori from Treble Charger too way back in the mid 2000s
His stage name alone told a story. He named himself after murderous cult leader, Charles Manson. The survivors of his crimes were still very alive while Marilyn Manson was immortalizing him this way. The girls that went anywhere near that guy are as stupid as Charles Mansons harem girls. Very very very stupid. Stupidity needs to be shamed more so that people stop making such stupid choices.
That’s all they ever were. Just made up stories
Your rent is late, your kids are losers, you work a miserable job, you have nothing in your savings. Please pay attention to your own life. This man is more talented and wealthy than you will ever be..... Goodbye 👋
@@nunyabidness6989 💯💯
When did any of these abusers, rapists, and criminals ever admit wrong doing?
Jeffrey Dahmer admitted to everything.
plenty of them do for plea bargains. I'm guessing you're not a big fan of true crime because you're ultra ignorant.
Yeah when you are falsely accused you defend yourself.
@@Mrchair905 sure thing bb girl
@bftvclips8925 at least he was man enough
So she went to the press because the DA basically told her they did not have a case and she forced their hand to try and pin him with something. What a joke, can't wait to see this blow up.
she settled with Manson out of court. Lol she cannot legally do this.
@@ViviPestilenz Sounds like another lawsuit to me.
That's literally not what happened.
Didn't he get accused multiple times before only for the allegations to be proven false? I need evidence not someones word.
"i need evidence" Or you could move on with your life.
Gonna go out on a limb here, and assume anyone who needs "evidence," when some as already been shown in the video, are the same types that think an election was stolen without any of said "evidence" required. 😢
Most of these women are already independently wealthy from their own careers. I don’t see much upside to them coming forward publicly with these accusations, so I’m inclined to believe them. I’ve noticed that, historically, people making things up to defame somebody seems like a less common occurrence than them just actually telling the truth about somebody being awful. Unfortunately, there are lots of awful people out there who harm others
@@Teeveepicksures what would that be, though? The nature of these kinds of crimes is that they take place in intimate settings were often there is nobody else around except for the accuser and the accused. Like what piece of evidence would you consider satisfactory? Also, evidence only applies to criminal guilt. That doesn’t mean something didn’t happen. Unfortunately, lots of people get away with things
@@Teeveepicksures Not everyone is comfortable listening to, voting for, or otherwise enjoying the work of someone responsible for such a heinous, unforgivable crime. I'm not a fan of Manson, but if I was, I would want to know the truth before I bought his next album. It's your choice to live your life without caring for victims, or wanting justice. Guy wants to enjoy his music, AND not feel like a hypocrite POS when he goes to bed at night.
You don't date a man who looks like that and not expect some weird behavior. If you want a regular guy, date a regular guy.
You know you would like to date him lol if I was a woman I would run for the hills lol
@@romeo8334how you talking crazy with a paint huffer face😂😂 looking like Jim Careys mask😂😂
@@Akronkangaroosays the man with a logo. Care to update your pfp with your actual face so we may judge? 😂
cant judge man by looks too, even reguler guy can be creepy person its all depends on character
That is the most idiotic assumption I've ever heard. Like "normal" looking men don't hurt people? Do you think that everyone who looks alternative is a violent, sadistic abuser? Honestly, think about what you're saying.
What percentage of sexual abusers own up? 😮
100%!
What percentage of women lie?
@@QuanPookieWhat percentage of naysayers don't believe the women who speak out and tell the truth???
None of them
@@Lily-cm3nj What percentage of these women want money instead of criminal convictions?
Meanwhile, the LA county sheriff's office has been investigating him for three years and has produced no solid evidence for charges to be brought. Additionally, Ms. Wood is a long time best friend of Amber heard. Did we already forget the clown show that was the trial brought against Johnny Dep. These actresses only bring up these false accusations when their work opportunities dry up and the fins that Fendi, Prada, and Berkin are once again outside of their price range.
Amber Heards case was different. I believe she was the aggressor there because of the recordings, his injuries and and also there being no other person making such claims. Mansons case is the complete opposite. It’s many women over a long period combined with long running rumors and his own depraved book.
Johnny Depp and Marilyn Manson have much more in common than just drug addiction, e.g. they also have violent misogyny in common with each other. Amber Heard was the victim between her and Johnny Depp, but she was dealt with a bunch of jurors and a judge who weren't good enough to be in those roles. I hope at least M.M.'s victims can have satisfaction.
@@regismonktonAmber Heard lied multiple times in court. She has zero credibility.
Well said
@@robertbenitez4331 Very statement! Much added conversation! Outstanding word! Lmao
These rumors about him have been out for years.
@@Honeymoon1988 it’s old and it’s a lie. Honestly the media must be desperate
@@JocelynFT How do you know it’s a lie?? Where you there? Have you even read his book? He admits to inviting women from his shows backstage to have sex with them and humiliate them. It’s so far to reach that he never assaulted any of them? No one believed diddy had sex parties either. Look what happened with him…
@@Honeymoon1988that book was 99% satire fiction. Neil Strauss ghost wrote it.
@@Honeymoon1988 lol I’m glad you mention Diddy because we can compare the two. Diddy was accused of assault and within a matter of a few months evidence surfaced of him and he was arrested in 6 months. These women have been claiming to have 100s of photos and videos as evidence and nothing has come forward. The only things they’ve shown publicly are things that make them look questionable. Like Evan dressed as a Nazi, or Evan doing Nazi salutes and everyone on Manson’s team feeling weird about her. Many people have come forward to contest her statements. The idea that she was raped in her music video is the craziest lie yet, considering it takes weeks to shoot them and tons of people are present. It’s not a one take and done. Also other people who were present for that have come forward to contest those claims and also stated that she was incredibly happy with the video and celebrated it for months and years after. Which is easily corroborated by Evan’s own statements at the time which she is trying real hard to get people to ignore. Many woman have come forward to verify that Evan and Illma were trying to recruit anyone who may have a grudge against Manson and also entice them with the idea of taking down a “bad man” who is already being investigated by the FBI- also a huge lie. It’s not hard to find a couple of crack pots to do so. As far as his book, he’s said many times throughout the years that he did not write it. He intentionally wanted a book that encompassed all the hysteria the crazy Christian people were already saying about him complied into a book just to enflame the rumors. Manson didn’t care to correct salacious rumors because it’s more entertaining to expose the sensationalism of said rumors. If you actually did real research and it take everything from Evan’s very carefully constructed point of view then you’d know this. I started out trying to verify the information because the metoo movement is important to me as a victim myself. I’m incredibly angered to see women use it as a stepping stool for money but unfortunately there’s a lot of shitty people who do things like that in Hollywood.
@MADCHESTERUTD-o9h I never got to see your comments 😭
Esme bianco is a LIAR, period! Women like this make it harder for real victims to be taken seriously and get the help they need, she is a disgrace. All of the women who got together and did this are...
"Real victims" are siding with Esme.
As a 'real victim' myself, I support & believe her.
When did she lie?
Hollywood is done. The world knows.
@@aaronsingerHollywood is done
But clearly marilyn manson( who just toured, and has another one planned for Europe) is not.
@@nathanielbables8652 Yeah, but things come up and those tours could EASILY be delayed or canceled.
He's a freaking musician. From Florida.
@@LeadMe2TheBliss yes, but with public opinion on his side, he's likely to use it fuel his career, as apposed to the opposite.
“Well, what we did was we pulled a trick that I’ve become quite famous for. It is pouring a large glass of tequila for your adversary, or your victim, and then pouring a large glass of beer for yourself and pretending that yours is tequila also. You convince them to drink down their large glass until they vomit and pass out and are left to be tormented. A similar trick had been done to me when I was young. “
“I’ve always been paranoid about the police, because even when I’m not doing anything illegal I’m thinking about doing something illegal.”
“I walked away exhilarated by my success, because there’s nothing like making a difference in someone’s life, even if that difference is a lifetime of nightmares and a fortune in therapy bills”
These are all admittances from his autobiography. He’s been a creep for a long time. Hope his victims get justice.
And yet his stupid fans will just deflect and say it was all made up, except there's plenty of interviews over the years with him saying similar things
The book is fiction.
@@danse777macabre If a shock rocker saying shocking things in interviews is the best you got, then you basically admit you got nothing. 🤣
He literally said in an interview it was all made up and about 6 people we know of that were mentioned in the book have said he lied about them but everyone knows it’s fake.
@@danse777macabre Well, I am a proud "stupid" Marilyn Manson fan. Will I stop listening to his music id he's guilty... Absolutely NOT! If he's innocent, that's a bonus. And FIY, I have a degree in molecular biology and biomedical sciences, so I can't be that stupid....
I can't imagine a relationship with a man who does what he does for a living. Why would anyone expect a tender, loving partnership with him?
I'm sure you are perfect barb can't imagine how any man wouldn't want to date your judgemental self
@@williammcfaul2040 Ditto, Bill.
For the same reason why women date athletes and entertainers and expect loving monogamous relationships.
Exactly!!!
It is the eternal problem that is so common even in this day and age. Many women think they can try and heal men, almost like a second mother. They think they can bring out the good in this type of man; it springs from pity, like finding an orphaned animal. Then, when they are drawn into a relationship, they are gaslighted and manipulated and abused. Then after they are discarded, the woman is led to believe that it was all her fault.
He’s had accusations of abuse and rape for decades
@@Alex-i8h5x all from people who were stalking him. Bianca Kyne accused him of assaulting her and how she was terrified and wanted to escape him and then goes on to follow him to every show on his tour at her own expense. Rose McGowan wrote about her experience with Manson on that very same tour. I wonder which one is lying lol
yes and they were all proven false. Same with now, no corroboration after years of investigating and Gascon even admits there is not enough to convict him on. Sit down.
@@JocelynFT Quit your lying. Brian Warner bragged about sexually abusing a fan in his own book. 1998. He is long overdue for a lifetime prison sentence.
@@JocelynFT exactly. I don't know what actually happened or didn't. No one knows. But these women were in relationships with him and liked him much of the time. They could be telling the truth or lying together
And they’ve all proven to be false.
I think this is 30 years overdue.
Why don't you guys actually address the evidence that the accusers are lying, rather than proffer that he might be guilty because so and so said such and such?
If Sean Combs is being held accountable, so should Marilyn Manson. Anyone who did or is continuing to stan for him is wasting their time, especially when false allegations of abuse are rare. He is a predator and a disgrace who needs to be gone from the music industry.
I agree with you. Johnny Depp and Marilyn Manson have much more in common than just drug addiction, e.g. they also have violent misogyny in common with each other. Amber Heard was the victim between her and Johnny Depp, but she was dealt with a bunch of jurors and a judge who weren't good enough to be in those roles. I hope at least M.M.'s victims can have satisfaction.
@@h.b.smith_writer it's impossible that all accused are "guilty"
I didn't realize you were guilty until proven innocent.
Sean Combs and Marilyn Manson are innocent. Where is the proof? It's all just broke people that want money. Maybe someone should accuse you of something you never did and have millions of people slander your name.
@@Zacht1980 these people don’t follow any case. They don’t even have enough data to form an opinion. They just don’t have anyone to talk to so they come in this fake world called, The Internet hoping they are heard here from a bunch of AI drones
No get out of jail cards for celebrities. Speedy and fair trial please
You need to be guilty first
He hasn't been charged with anything lol.
well Manson was never in jail or even proven liable.
Trial for what? An allegation? Is that how this works? When are you going on trial for stealing molded cheese from the supermarket?
The prosecutor "needs more time so victims can remember and collaborate their stories. "Should tell you all you need to know about this....
corroborate, not collaborate.
@@Sarappreciates the point remains the same...genius.
@@patrikpreder7390 It most certainly doesn't.
How can Sunny be so educated yet so ignorant about everything at the same time?
Whatever is convenient for her and whatever opinion gets the check.
His name is not Marilyn Manson. His name Brian Hugh Warner.
@@jsacodes916 he is Marilyn Manson to the world because clearly they don’t know Brian Warner. Look into the cases before you make assumptions, these women are lying. Evan is incredibly quiet now because she is about to be humiliated in court. Esme settled already so her speaking out now is all just a circus act and her taking advantage of the election season. Nothing will result from this little headline parade of hollow words and hollow actions. There is no evidence at all.
His name is Marilyn Manson and Brian Hugh Warner.
Hey guys one these women have recanted and accused Evan Richael Wood pressured her into talking.
For the dumb people in the comments, he didn’t do it and if you bring his book up one more time I’m gonna loose it. His “accusers” have withdrawn their claims and actually claimed evan Rachel wood is lying. The book was a ploy to become famous and to shock.
The amount of victim blaming and slut shaming in this comment section is fucking disgusting.
No one is slut shaming. They literally are lying. The investigation was closed in 2022 and Gascón has been sitting on the case because the evidence shows they lied. Esme already settled her case. And her evidence leaked when she went to court with Manson. All of us actually paying close attention saw that evidence and it’s not even evidence. It’s worse than AH. Evan got with Illma, a known Grifter, and decided they want to activists, they got with Ashley Walters who was a disgruntled ex employee who had access to all his accounts and contacts and they went through and looked for women they could manipulate into accusing Manson. One of the high profile “accusers” already recanted her accusations and not only admitted it was a lie but signed an affidavit on Manson’s behalf detailing how Evan and Illma recruited her and others. Many other women have also come forward in Manson’s defense and also claim to have been contacted by Evan. When you actually look in to it, Evan “pretty persuasion’d” them. And if you haven’t seen that movie go check it out
U can't rape the willing fool
I think you meant to say, "the amount of pretend victims unable to take accountability and responsibility for their own actions and trying to find a payday is fucking disgusting". That's more like it.
Ignore them, ignore their lies & gaslighting. The rapist has paid bots out here trying to control the narrative. He doesn't want to be held accountable for his crimes.
@@tothelighthouse9843 bots? I'm no bot. How about holding the women accountable? They were adults when they consented. You made your bed.
Anyone who would take the name "Manson" referring to Charles Manson as a stage name is a sick sob
I agree. I think the Manson Family crimes are very stupid and evil.
Don't be an idiot. He got Marilyn from Marilyn Monroe and Manson from Charles Manson to reflect American society's obsessions, particularly how the media tells stories. The original band members had the first names of famous models and last names of infamous killers.
@@MGunners9 I think you like Marilyn Manson way too much. I never liked it. I always had good taste, and I always made sense of art, even when I was a child. I always knew Marilyn Manson was phony and a waste of time, and I'm concerned about the people who like that kind of thing.
@@regismonktonyou know nothing about him.
That photo was taken off the internet (not her), there’s a fake FBI letter that was filed and paid accusers.
He’s smarter, kinder and more humble than you are. I know this.
I know him. He’s also a philosophy freak which is reflected in his lyrics. He’s also an artist in more than one medium. I met him 27 years ago and he’s NOT the monster you’re looking for.
I’m also a real survivor and he’s NEVER raised any red 🚩. I wouldn’t have stuck around.
How can someone like him “too much “ when they KNOW he’s being falsely accused? Or when they understand his art & also know he’s NOT that guy?
His life has been ripped apart for NOTHING.
BUT since you’re so perfect with your fine taste in whatever you didn’t mention….throw your rocks and hide your hands.
You want to know what Zeus said to Narcissist …..
@@MGunners9
What are you like 15 years old? And did you really say "don't be an idiot" because I don't think it's cool to pick a stage name after an insane narcissistic cult leader who got his members strung out on dope
and commanded them to brutally kill people?
There may be an idiot here but it isnt me
How many times does he have to beat these charges? He should be able to sue at this point
Me too hoax. Another Amber Heard story
An Amber Heard story, as in the story of a woman who was actually confirmed by the court to have been abused? By a man who has more money than her, more physical strength than her, more support from the public than her, and a raging drug addiction? I do see the similarities between Brian Warner and Johnny Depp, when I look at that list.
This is it
Manson needs to be held accountable.
😂you sound like conservative parents from the 90s.
for what?
Johnny Depp and Marilyn Manson have much more in common than just drug addiction, e.g. they also have violent misogyny in common with each other. Amber Heard was the victim between her and Johnny Depp, but she was dealt with a bunch of jurors and a judge who weren't good enough to be in those roles. I hope at least M.M.'s victims can have satisfaction.
Say it louder for the people in the back!! 📣📣
Pretentious liars. You wouldn’t hear about any of these women if they weren’t making accusations.
That "guy" is a big time creep.
Yes, but is he a rapist?
Why hide behind a screen name then?
What's that say about her tho?
@@Akronkangaroosays a lot about you siding with an abuser..
He is a criminal
Women love men with money. He's clearly a weirdo.
LIES!
I don't believe this
Can’t these women find another way to make a living!
They don’t have any other talents.
Read his autobiography, he admits deeply disturbing things.
Can’t these predators like Manson find another way to live than to victimize women? That’s a better question.
@@DeathOfARockStar You mean the fiction?
Aren’t they all allegations? Most of them proven nonsense reaches for money/fame
You mean like mister Rogers neighborhood reran on NET, PBS, KidZone, and PBS kids from 1969-2002 just like the subway logo at the end of the kids pack commercial of blue’s clues: blue’s birthday toys rerunning on Nick Jr. in 1999?
@@IanDahlen Huh?
@@therealeverlade you’re just wondering! I asked you mister Rogers neighborhood: learning 1655 reran on PBS in 1993 before KidZone was launched on prairie public television with KidZone kid of the day starting in August 30th? Remember?
@@IanDahlen Explain for me please? Mister Rogers was a cool dude?
@IanDahlen what is your point?
I totally believe it!!!! And hope he's held accountable like all the rest of those demons!!!!
So you just automatically believe something without solid evidence?
"Rest of those demons" who are you talking about
@@johncaze757read his autobiography.
well you believe in demons. Your opinion is invalid.
I'm on your side. Johnny Depp and Marilyn Manson have much more in common than just drug addiction, e.g. they also have violent misogyny in common with each other. Amber Heard was the victim between her and Johnny Depp, but she was dealt with a bunch of jurors and a judge who weren't good enough to be in those roles. I hope at least M.M.'s victims can have satisfaction.
I met this man twice and he was the nicest man I’ve ever met! I don’t believe a single allegation and I believe any woman who says she was abused is asking for attention. They are absolutely crazy and are not credible
Calling victims of abuse crazy is tactic number one of abusers. No one is falling for that.
There are photos of Rose macgowan in restaurants with Manson this year.
No, I googled it. It’s a picture of him sitting alone at a table and his incel supporters claim Rose McGowan was there. But apparently invisible. What a joke.
@@Orchidaceous1I met Rose recently and told her i am a fan of her ex and she had only positive things to say. She said its not fair what is being done to him.
Well you gotta be insane to even be alone w such a weirdo he's a pyscho... im afraid of him just watching his video like what did they expect??
and how can we even take this serious when they are calling him marilyn manson instead of his actual name
This man doesn’t have to rape anyone .Ask yourself has anyone else had that experience.
This is why it is necessary to have a legal document on intense sexual acts. That way, both parties know what they are getting themselves into. Clue: safe word.
NDAs are brought up in court all the time.
Are there any big celebs who haven't just taken what and who they wanted after getting rich and famous?
@aaronsinger It's hyperbole. I'm not asking you. The question is rhetorical. I'm expressing my disbelief at the amount of celebrities who have been accused of SA in the last few weeks. There are dozens. I think the bigger problem here is yr own good self...Dim-witted is fine. That can't be helped. But that venomous tongue...
@@ivareskesner2019It seemed more of a defensive comment so maybe you hit a nerve. Lol
@@Lily-cm3njDefinitely. As is the case with 99% of comments like this, it's projection. They only know their own little world because they are all that matters. So it makes sense they believe that everybody operates via the same method as them.
@@Lily-cm3nj Definitely. As is the case with 99% of comments like this, it's projection. They only know their own little world because they are all that matters. So it makes sense they believe that everybody operates via the same method as them.
@@Lily-cm3nj Definitely. As is the case with 95% of comments like this, it's projection. People who only know their own little world, so it makes sense to them that everybody operates via the same method as them.
That guy is SO tacky.
I've never understood what anyone has found the least bit entertaining or amusing about this talentless hack.
know the saying "to each their own" ?
i don't care for him either, but i also believe any and all country music is as bad if not worse, slow,boring,whiny bullshit.
does that mean anything beyond my opinion? absolutely not and it shouldn't, just because i think it's absoulute ass doesn't mean others can't enjoy it.
i bet I'd hate some of your favorite things and vice versa.
4 octave vocal range, 5 if we include screams.
he's more talented than you will ever be.
He's actually very intelligent and he is very talented
So you look at his videos, and his appearance and you can't find another man to date?????
That’s what I’m saying.
But he’s in a band!
@@daheikkinen what's that got to do with anything?? So he's in a band!
"Women's intuition"😂😂
Is she a clout chaser?
Only more is gonna come out about the people we've idolized. Of course they're going to abuse their fame... psychos.
lol her pintrest photo 🤣
It's so frustrating having to listen to people come after Marilyn Manson over and over again. People just don't have lives. Hasn't Marilyn Manson been through enough in life, can he simply exist in peace? My God, why can't people just stfu and leave the dude alone?
I’ve been a fan for a long time. I don’t know how to feel about it all, rape is terrible but this whole thing feels weird.
He never wanted peace.
I would encourage anyone rushing to judgement to research this and realize he is a victim of a me too hoax.
Oh that poor rich rockstar. Such suffering
This is like eating a piece of candy then complaining that it's sweet.😂
I dated him for 4 years but it was rape 😂😂😂. These women
Ever hear of these pre-Manson singers/bands: Eldon "Il Duce" Hoke (Mentors), GG Allin, Ian Stuart (Skrewdriver) or Varg Vikernes (Burzum)? These artists were all FAR MORE extreme than Marilyn Manson, yet didn't receive half the publicity !
ZERO evidence, ZERO people who aren’t actors or friends of the business, ZERO initial accountability and action taken at the exact time - all just happening to come out of nowhere at the same time.
Esme Bianco. Does everyone remember her? She was Ros, the prostitute that betrayed Littlefinger and was murdered by Joffrey with a crossbow in the show Game of Thrones.
and?
She also settled in court with Manson without prejudice. Which means what she is doing is illegal and defamation.
I don't believe these people. Why did you wait so long to accuse him? He is an easy target IMO
There have been accusations against him taken to the police for nearly two decades now. The sad thing is, when a woman who has been victimized by a man, she cannot force the police to care. Read about it. The accusations against Brian Warner have been going on for ages.
@@Orchidaceous1 Fair Enough...I do understand the stigma of abuse on a personal level. If he is guilty his victims must force his prosecution and accountability
Marilyn Manson is - gross
Hate to break it to you but I’m sure some celebrities you find attractive have done the same thing but I guarantee you don’t care about that though.
That just makes him more assume
It’s 100% consensual and then when they get dumped, they want money. They are angry and want money.
You dont know that. She said she went to the police. Who should believe you?
@@LucyLoulovesyouwhy did she go to the police after they broke up then ? How come she never came forward the first time ? Bc she was okay with it as long as she was getting paid 100%
Oh, you were there?
He denies all accusations brought to the courts by.... 12 women 🙄
12 women that all want money. No criminal charges. Only civil suits 💰. What does that tell you? Same with Diddy. They all want money
Ashley Morgan Smithline.
This dude is the only musician I've listened to whose music hasn't evolved at all. He still sounds like the angry goth kid.
You clearly haven't. Each album is literally different.
Innocent until PROVEN BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT guilty. These witches just want attention, money, or revenge for getting dumped or cheated on. I've seen it happen many times. Sometimes there's no reason at all, it's just a rush for them to know they can destroy someone's life
Evan Rachel Woods wanted a documentary and child custody, not what you listed, though that may be true for the other accusers. HBO wouldn’t have made her documentary “Phoenix Rising” without her naming her abuser. Regardless of whether *someone* abused her or not, she decided to name Manson since he’s an easy target and still had enough name recognition amongst the public to interest HBO. She successfully terrified her child, and still lost custody to Jamie Bell, who doesn’t believe her accusations.
I feel like Esme was disappointed with her settlement amount and, based on her words when she first spoke up about this, may be upset that he dumped her. She mentioned crying on her plane as she left California after the alleged abuse. But she wasn’t crying about the “abuse” - but that she’d miss his company. In addition, she admitted that he asked for her permission to “manhandle” her for the project they worked on. She may also be upset he never used the footage. I wish I could remember where I read that story, but it was shortly after Evan named him as her abuser.
As a lifelong fan I no longer have to time for a aging accused rapist trying to claw his way back to the middle. Most I won't just forget 2 decades of bloated shitty shows.
I stand with Manson.
Just don't stand in a room alone with him. He's a rapist.
Of course you do…
@@tothelighthouse9843 no u
He's definitely a creep.
Oh don't be a prud
@@nathanielbables8652 I toured with the guy. Trust me, I know. I've seen some dark things happen in his dressing room.
Such as?
@@81DaddyMac I've heard opposite stories from other guys who claim to have toured with him. Ivan Moody called the whole thing "BS".
He glorified rape for years when no one was trying to hold him legally accountable 😂
He never glorified rape…you dork, he’s used it as a metaphor
Pick up a book
@@CaXreLLand what's the metaphor exactly?
His whole vibe is sadism at its core.
I encourage everyone who thinks Manson is guilty at face value to read the court documents. There's enough in the public filings to convince me that he's innocent.
I'm not telling you to believe people like me outright, just look into it for yourself. (Not "I DiD mY OwN rEaSeArCh" type stuff. Read the actual legal filings)
Oh another false accuser? Remember the last one was outed for being a huge liar.
I’m not buying it anymore.
William, your mother must be so proud of you! Well done bravo
Evan Rachel Wood has already been caught red-handed in a scheme where she and a friend impersonated an FBI agent in trying to solicit information from other women.
Same here
I mean, does anyone actually think he’s not guilty? Not I
What is deeply disconcerting is that within a court setting a sexual predator will be asked by their defence council if they have raped the victim(s) who have gathered the strength to hold the perp accountable. The perp usually answers "No." If only the accused had the humanity and the strength in character to say "Yes." To accept, be accountable for, and to recognize their actions. And, from prison, they may wish to choose to spend the minimum of 25 years working on their pathology(ies) rather than spend all of their time on any of the other activities that a prisoner can be focused on.
I'm all for any of these celebrities who have been evil in the shadows to be exposed, but at the same time there needs to be extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claima, and these days it seems everyone is being claimed by someone as an "abuser" for clout and money.
Ok but like Bianco settled her “cases” with Manson outside of the courts. Look it up.
How many of these women were thirsty for fame then?
the majority of them are failed actresses and Bianca Allaine cannot even prove she met him.
A guy who claims to be demonic turns out to be demonic
Lmao please look into the actual cases, something screams me too hoax about it all
His music sucks
I bet you’re a trump supporter
@@Michael_Beanflip I think most Manson fans are edgelord trumpers lol
@@jeremysanders9336 you should wear a mask