The actual answer for the “misplay” around 15:00 Summon Zealantis: effect keep poplar. Summon princess. Summon raging Phoenix. Summon amblowhale co-link with zealantis. Go into relinquish anima absorb kirin. Battle… if all else fails zealantis pop at amblo and resummon the Princess via Amblo effect. That works out without the lock and extra damage can be pushed without Kirin popping right? I’m sure everyone that called it out saw it too?
I left the misplay in ,because I planned for you to call it out, as you should, also if I called you out on stream now its less mean because get to be like “hey, you did it too”, some of you got it, while others kinda missed the point.
Good lookin out! This is why I love playing online when testing new ideas and it highlights when you can activate or do something.. my brain tends to do its own thing 😂
@@ATGLorcanaWell not really, since you need to resolve Zealantis to summon the problematic monster in front of the EMZ, at this point you have to summon princess from the GY since it's a trigger effect, you never have the timing to make anima where you wouldn't be locked into FIRE
@@ATGLorcana That doesn't work since princess is a trigger effect that triggers on res of zealantis effect, and you can't make anima before zealantis as the emz is not free until after its effect
Thanks! As a Marincess player this really helps as well. I've been finding it quite funny that a fire deck has been handling a big water beast like Zealantis in their decks ahahaha
12:48 Linkuriboh can't use its effect against a replay attack from that same opponent's monster that declared the attack. But it can against another monster. Correct me if I am wrong, but i wanted to add for clarity.
Enjoyed your YCS commentary today. Excited for future (Branded) Chimera vids. Feels like when I don't pull off Barrier Statue of the Abyss cheese via Chimera, it's an uphill battle.
It's suboptimal to put princess to the left of zealantis. In some lines, you'll also make knightmare phoenix to the left of zealantis. This will make them co-linked, which gives you a draw 1 and an additional pop of zeal.
@MSTTV it does say that, so in practice you could shove phoenix in the far left zone, then revive princess between them for them to both be co linked to princess, but this loses both potential zealantis pops to grave snipe cards like belle and crow. just linking phoenix directly to the left of zealantis would let you keep 2 zeal pops even if princess is sniped, and I'd imagine if people have called by or belle or crow, there's a chance they'd save them for princess so it's not a super niche scenario
Thanks Tom,also just in case you have an unused kirin in that last puzzle you could just destroy ponix and kirin,summon back ponix,destroy one and just get lethal
We are simplifying the states with less noise this is a deck where the lines need to address every GY monster. Rather than constantly adding more exceptions we just kept going as if they are blanks
What happens if Princess activates in grave to target 2 monsters to destroy, but my opponent dodges the target by tributing their monster? Does princess still go off even if the effect doesn't destroy both monsters?
Gotta love master duel making Zielantis automated. Normally if I’m going for this line I keep the witch on board for the extra damage through the combo. I’m hoping raging phoenix will get released soon, but I would’ve thought about the accidental misplays, because banishing and summoning back is one of those rulings everyone forgets how it works.
so question, when you use zealantis effect to banish the field and you control a monster that was special summoned off of hit, when it returns to the field I was told that returns to my field (current controller) and then the game-state recognizes that my opponent is the original owner therefore returns the opponent's field after. (I.E. S:P taken via talents and then banished off effect returning at ep. Returns to controller then to owner). In the scenario mentioned above, if it returns to the controller then the owner, would there even be a window to activate princess ?
that depends on what effect takes thee control of the monster, if the control is for short time (like end phase etc) like taleents you say: monster is summoned on your field then pass to op field exaclty like you say. but if the control is permanent (like stealth with hiita ) then the monster special to your field, then the monster still on your field
It gets special summoned directly to the owner’s field. Zealantis basically resets the ownership clause. Even if you had permanent control, Zealantis specifically special summons them back to the owner
It is, at least to trigger Princess in grave. You could still run the Selene/Accesscode line that way you’d be able to summon the last body through Diabellstar or in worst case scenario a droll in hand or grave.
Considering playing reaper to hit the princess. Anyone have thoughts? I do have space for it and I can also hit branded, sp, baronne and crimson dragon.
Yeah in Crystal Beast we use it on top of Saryuja.. I just learned about this this week but I knew of the water decks abusing Zelantis to wipe an opp board for good
Bro ima call you out! Much love tho u misplayed u cant summon anima with princess on board. U have to bring out anima 1st and if you do that princess doesnt trigger the whole line is messed up . If jesse did this he got lucky no one caught it
The actual answer for the “misplay” around 15:00
Summon Zealantis: effect keep poplar.
Summon princess. Summon raging Phoenix.
Summon amblowhale co-link with zealantis.
Go into relinquish anima absorb kirin.
Battle… if all else fails zealantis pop at amblo and resummon the Princess via Amblo effect.
That works out without the lock and extra damage can be pushed without Kirin popping right? I’m sure everyone that called it out saw it too?
I left the misplay in ,because I planned for you to call it out, as you should, also if I called you out on stream now its less mean because get to be like “hey, you did it too”, some of you got it, while others kinda missed the point.
14:47 sadly summoning Anima is illegal here since it's not a FIRE monster and Promethian Princess locks you into FIRE 🤷♂
Good lookin out! This is why I love playing online when testing new ideas and it highlights when you can activate or do something.. my brain tends to do its own thing 😂
@@JessyBenjamin_Cracked You can just make Anima before princess, it was a sequencing issue not an illegal board in the end.
This video is aging well already lmao
@@ATGLorcanaWell not really, since you need to resolve Zealantis to summon the problematic monster in front of the EMZ, at this point you have to summon princess from the GY since it's a trigger effect, you never have the timing to make anima where you wouldn't be locked into FIRE
@@ATGLorcana That doesn't work since princess is a trigger effect that triggers on res of zealantis effect, and you can't make anima before zealantis as the emz is not free until after its effect
Thanks! As a Marincess player this really helps as well. I've been finding it quite funny that a fire deck has been handling a big water beast like Zealantis in their decks ahahaha
14:50 you cannot summon Anima there due to Promethean Princess locking you into FIRE - regardless of sequencing.
12:48 Linkuriboh can't use its effect against a replay attack from that same opponent's monster that declared the attack. But it can against another monster. Correct me if I am wrong, but i wanted to add for clarity.
It can but likely it would get outplayed by zealantis pop
@@MSTTV hey! thanks for replying. I have long thought you're a pretty cool dude.
14:50 cannot summon anima when princess is on the field
You can just make Anima before princess, it was a sequencing issue not an illegal board in the end.
@@ATGLorcana no you cant, if you summon anima before princess u cant put it into the extra monster zone after zelantis effect
Anima has a up pointing arrow, you cannot summon princess @@ATGLorcana
Duuuude always appreciate your ruling videos!!!
14:35 You could also bench one of your opponents monsters with flamberge here
Enjoyed your YCS commentary today. Excited for future (Branded) Chimera vids. Feels like when I don't pull off Barrier Statue of the Abyss cheese via Chimera, it's an uphill battle.
Yes
How do I counter this card , I keep losing to it, every deck that can link some how link towers into this and kills me
New sub
Great explanations
Just got a snake eye deck
Still working out the kinks
But Zalantis said to summon in defense position, why can u summon in attack?
It's suboptimal to put princess to the left of zealantis. In some lines, you'll also make knightmare phoenix to the left of zealantis. This will make them co-linked, which gives you a draw 1 and an additional pop of zeal.
Umm, zealantis only cares about the total co-linked monsters on the field and not just the ones with itself. Check the text, I think it’s what it says
@MSTTV it does say that, so in practice you could shove phoenix in the far left zone, then revive princess between them for them to both be co linked to princess, but this loses both potential zealantis pops to grave snipe cards like belle and crow. just linking phoenix directly to the left of zealantis would let you keep 2 zeal pops even if princess is sniped, and I'd imagine if people have called by or belle or crow, there's a chance they'd save them for princess so it's not a super niche scenario
This helps a lot , thank you
Thanks Tom,also just in case you have an unused kirin in that last puzzle you could just destroy ponix and kirin,summon back ponix,destroy one and just get lethal
We are simplifying the states with less noise this is a deck where the lines need to address every GY monster.
Rather than constantly adding more exceptions we just kept going as if they are blanks
What happens if Princess activates in grave to target 2 monsters to destroy, but my opponent dodges the target by tributing their monster? Does princess still go off even if the effect doesn't destroy both monsters?
Gotta love master duel making Zielantis automated. Normally if I’m going for this line I keep the witch on board for the extra damage through the combo. I’m hoping raging phoenix will get released soon, but I would’ve thought about the accidental misplays, because banishing and summoning back is one of those rulings everyone forgets how it works.
Nice transition to revealing the deck. 14:59 anima can’t be summoned btw.
I’m confused I thought princess fire locks you how can you go into zelantis?
2:45 zealantis can destroy only one monster because 1 monster is conlinked!!
Can you play without princess? Like if I get reaper
so question,
when you use zealantis effect to banish the field and you control a monster that was special summoned off of hit, when it returns to the field I was told that returns to my field (current controller) and then the game-state recognizes that my opponent is the original owner therefore returns the opponent's field after. (I.E. S:P taken via talents and then banished off effect returning at ep. Returns to controller then to owner).
In the scenario mentioned above, if it returns to the controller then the owner, would there even be a window to activate princess ?
that depends on what effect takes thee control of the monster, if the control is for short time (like end phase etc) like taleents you say: monster is summoned on your field then pass to op field exaclty like you say. but if the control is permanent (like stealth with hiita ) then the monster special to your field, then the monster still on your field
It gets special summoned directly to the owner’s field. Zealantis basically resets the ownership clause. Even if you had permanent control, Zealantis specifically special summons them back to the owner
Tip for editor during combo layout recenter Tom’s camera he is not in frame a lot of the time
I don’t have an editor and I move around during combo I like the taller view and it’s all 1 scene
Oh sorry thought you recorded in 3840x1080 then edit the camera to be in that format all good😅… still a amazing video my guy
@@MSTTValso I didn’t expect you to be editing by yourself. Idk how you find the time to do everything yourself
Is the Anima + Zealantis combo only playable in this deck? I want to try testing it in Dinos before committing it it
If you have a level 1 monster and you can reach a link 4, you can do it
What can lock you fron attacking? Did the combo but was locked to not attack and lost
Did you use S:P at any point to banish a card on summon before battle phase?
@@CoreyskillaHoN ohhh im an idiot
Why wouldn’t the pros run volcanics emperor, trooper and 3 rimfire? Fire ejection?
Hopefully fire players don't get zealantis banned. Cause I play it in marincess and it sucks getting hit due to others bs.
ghost bell looking pretty good
Wait wait towards the end with princess
Can you still go into anima ? I thought you are lock into fire 🔥? Or did I miss something
@crack.d You can just make Anima before princess, it was a sequencing issue not an illegal board in the end.
This is why I subscribe to this guy. Innovation and breakdown. Appreciate the good looks brotha 🤙
Cheers, and hope you pin the solution for Anima when Promethean Princess is on field
Calling people out for misplaying yet you misplay in this video. Not a good look lol.
lol. It’s like you skipped the part that mentions we intentionally demo the misplays onboard. The misplays so people can see the dead end….
@@MSTTV can't summon anima with princess on the board. Happens around 14:45
@@ChocoYGOi learned that the hard way in master duel 😂
@@michaelporrini2045 I mean it happens to everyone a some point. I'm not trying to be a dick to MSTTV or anything, shit happens.
Lmao good call out on his misplay
If you don’t own a Raging Phoenix, is Zealantis worth using?
It is, at least to trigger Princess in grave. You could still run the Selene/Accesscode line that way you’d be able to summon the last body through Diabellstar or in worst case scenario a droll in hand or grave.
@@PartyMarty321 true. Still don’t have accesscode. But Selene could get me another body.
Fire locked by princess cant go anima “Misplay”””
Good video
bro causualy flexing the ghost rare lol
Considering playing reaper to hit the princess. Anyone have thoughts? I do have space for it and I can also hit branded, sp, baronne and crimson dragon.
Wait a minute... You can use just 1 Link-4 for Zealantis?
Yeah in Crystal Beast we use it on top of Saryuja.. I just learned about this this week but I knew of the water decks abusing Zelantis to wipe an opp board for good
@@JessyBenjamin_Cracked Dope
@@KurayamiGGEZZealantis says 1+ Effect monsters which means you could use 1 Link-4 for its summoning requirement!
As a Marincess player, I must say this to snake eyes players… don’t get our zeal boy banned please 😂
You look so much like Hikaru Nakamura, the Chess player lol.
Bro really looks like hikaru
Starts the video with if you mis play this card i will roast you. Ends up making illegal plays! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 blows my mind
You can just make Anima before princess, it was a sequencing issue not an illegal board in the end.
@ATGLorcana if he summon Anima after princess it is a illegal play. Duh!
@@calebpedersen9907 It's trivial...
@ATGLorcana I would agree if he didn't start the vid by saying he would roast someone for playing like that. Hahah
@ATGLorcana the whole point of his vid was to show correct play...which he did not. Get off his nuts
I’ll roast your sleeves since I bought and haven’t decided
Zealantis should be banned for making the opponent respect YOUR summoning restriction. I's rather play against ishizu spright/tear then this bs.
No! I do what I want!
Yeah! That’s how we do it
Bro ima call you out! Much love tho u misplayed u cant summon anima with princess on board. U have to bring out anima 1st and if you do that princess doesnt trigger the whole line is messed up . If jesse did this he got lucky no one caught it
If u are yugioh player u mistake once with this xd
cam neal gave yugitubers a free vid 😭
I mean it was unfortunate that he threw and Billy and I had to make the call.
But the misplays are far too common,
U cant summon back links with Zealantis because links cant be summon in def
Zealantis can summon in face down defense or face up (any position). If what you said was true then zealantis wouldn’t be able to summon itself
Broken asf
First
Imagine being so confident in your yugioh knowledge but making a rookie mistake and being so confident about… what a joke
You can just make Anima before princess, it was a sequencing issue not an illegal board in the end.
We need a Banlist
Wat
@@trappestarrgaming3422 we need one
Can Zealantis activate on damage Calc to pop ? & are you going to Seattle regs. On March 9th Tom? I'd really love to see you & Nish again 😃👍