Thank you Alex. Keeping this case active is crucial to finding justice for Liz. ❤ You go above and beyond. You do lots of hard work all of your content is original, respectful and pragmatic. 🎉😊
Thank you. Liz deserves justice at the very least. First time I spoke to Liz Father a long time back his words were, "Justice is so fleeting, we pray for nothing less. Thank you for your concern and caring." I thought then and do now, no need to thank me for caring. I was asked once given I never knew Liz and am not even American etc why do i care so much? Answer is easy, I asked "How come you don't?"
Im really glad someone is looking into this case its always intrigued me and can't understand why it can't be solved... I don't make a habit mentioning other creators but grizzly true crime and aaron mull are great channels keeps to facts and no drama! I would absolutely LOVE if you could maybe do a live stream together and get this stuff out to many more subscribers and creators this is one of those that just really bugs me thanks i really appreciate the work you've put into this 💯🤗
I've always wondered why grizzly focuses on crimes in other countries. There must be content of some sort in the Netherlands. She's writing about a culture she doesn't even know and places she's never been! Go away grizzly!
I don't understand why this can't be solved either!? Can't the FBI help these incompetent cops! Every police official they interview about this says its a completely solvable case???
@@MarkVARBEROFBI has no jurisdiction. FBI only gets involved in federal cases, where federal laws are violated. The FBI can help assist in analyzing certain evidence but they do NOT investigate
A bit of a screed, but I hope it may prove interesting. Besides the Barraza case, I’ve also followed the Missy Bevers slaying closely. For a long time I believed that these were both do-it-yourself murders where the shooter was the person with the grudge, but over the last few months I’ve watched videos by Tom Webster and Gumshoe Stories, and I have come round to the idea that the Bevers killer was a thin person disguised as a fat person, and that the supposed limp is an act, as they seem to walk ok for a pace or two, but then remember that they’re meant to walk in an odd way and start acting again. I then began to wonder if the two murders might have been carried out by the same contract-killer. They took place pretty close to each other both in geographical and temporal terms, and there were a number of similarities in appearance and MO. The first point is the height and sex of the killers, and these are intimately connected. I personally feel that they were female, and this is a remarkable coincidence in itself, because while women are responsible for the overwhelming majority of contract killings, this is almost always as the employer and not as the culprit. The killers are both about 64-65 inches which is average for a woman. On the other hand if the killers are male then it’s a coincidence that they’re both very short for a man. Bevers had ‘puncture wounds’ to head and body, while Barraza was shot in head and body Both killers arrived in the area several hours before the crimes. Both killers used a disguise. Personally i doubt that Barraza’s killer wore any kind of outlandish disguise - for example the Princess Leis costume sometimes suggested, as I think that Liz would have reacted differently had this been so. The disguises were more for the benefit of the cops than the victims. Both killers apparently used a revolver. Both killers took advantage of a narrow window of opportunity of 25-30 mins, and kept their cool when it seemed that the window was closing: Bevers arrived at about 5.10 instead of her usual 5.00, and Sergio left about 10-15 minutes later than normal. Both killers used Nissan vehicles, and these seem to have vanished into thin air. My hypothesis is that the killer had access to a dealership specialising in second-hand Nissans. I envisage them borrowing a car, carrying out the crime and then putting it back on the lot, and this is why it can’t be found. It’s like the old riddle ‘Where is the best place to hide a tree?’ It may be that some unsuspecting people are riding round in vehicles used during these murders. The fact that the killer didn’t care that the vehicles were caught on CCTV argues that the licence-plates were bogus. A motorist passing the church where Bevers was killed reported seeing a dark SUV coming out, and couldn’t be sure that this was the night of the murder, so it’s possible that this was the killer in yet another Nissan carrying out a dry-run a day or two before the killing. It might also raise questions about the Titan seen near the Barraza home the night before the attack. It’s pretty clear that the person who killed Barraza was a professional. It’s noteworthy that the person obviously had a preferred escape-route, but when this proved impracticable - possibly they saw a police car and thought the alarm had been raised - they already had a Plan B in mind: they turned around and drove back past the Barraza house and then to the dead-end where they left the road, went down the slight slope and vanished into the back-roads. This implies that they had thoroughly reconnoitred the area beforehand. The fact that one of the shots missed Liz doesn’t invalidate this idea: there are many desirable attributes in a contract-killer, and being a good shot is well down the list. If I were employing such a person I’d look for someone who: - Was a good planner - Was a good organiser - Wouldn’t leave evidence at the scene - Wouldn’t blab about the crime Clearly the person who murdered Barraza meets all of these criteria.
According to the family and police, the initial police report was incorrect and all four shots did strike Liz. First shot hit her in the neck, a through and through shot that went on to hit the porch. Two in chest area the final shot hit liz in the face, just above her top lip. Missy case I know in passing, not great detail. I dont think missy was targeted. The shooters first choice wasnt to go to the church, but they were clearly casing the sports shop on the adjacent parking lot up the road. This to me is the key to it not being targeted because when that venue wasn't plausible, they left and drove away. I've always envisioned Missys killer leaving that sport wear shop in a really pissed off mood felling like it had been a total waste of time going over there and then, muttering to themselves about their terrible luck, they spot the church and probably out of sheer frustration, decide to turn in to have a look as a sort of consolation prize to go home with like the money for takings etc. I think missy was just in the right place but the wrong time. I think she walked in and startled the killer who may have felt like a trapped and cornered animal. Missy may have seen a dark figure moving and make for her phone and 911. The shooter is already pissed off at no loot to go home with, now they are looking like going to prison for nothing ! Shot Missy dead as she stood inside the front door. I believe that's where whe was found. You will know far more than I regarding Missy and that case.
Missy bevers was not a hit job. She walked in on the person robbing the church and got killed. Contract killings are easy to solve cause there's always some kinda paper trail and electronic trail
I don't know. I've asked Michael Ritchie and he confirms not only is Sergio seen on his, but they have him on the neighbours cam leaving in the white van. He told me when he gave me the hour footage that the cam was set to record in 1 hour segments and He gave me I think 05:40 - 06:40am so one after that would be of Liz after she was shot. I have heard that on that Liz can be heard after the truck left trying to ask for help and.... Well it's too graphic to say any on public platform but it wouldnt be nice to hear then let's put it that way. I think that's maybe why he won't release it. I wouldn't want nor let my wife's painful last moments be given out for the World to see. It's.jsut as likely he's refusing out of respect for Liz and to let Liz keep her dignity. I think it's the right choice to make.
Honestly, I’m trying to understand what they could be sitting at this point. If the Internet has it is completely solved. Dang near. What could they be waiting for other than they suck?
Weird stuff man, I also hear Sergio say I love you @ 7:20. I lean towards 70/30 that he is involved. I hope he isn't it. We will find out when that pussy gun"man" gets arrested. Only a matter of time, if the coward is reading this : tick tock my friend, tick tock.
He doesn't say "I love you " to her. And some will say that it gets cut off. Well how convenient. One thing is for sure. There's another female there that's speaking Spanish to him. And in an interview he says "we left " referring to leaving the house before the shooting. I'm fluent in Spanish and I know what I heard. He was talking to his mom. But why lie and not disclose the fact that she left with him. The neighbor wasn't wrong about the mom possibly living there. The mom would stay with them whenever she had arguments with the husband. And if there's one thing I've learned about ppl it's to trust them as far as you can throw them. Especially in these situations. People will only tell you what they want you to know.
I know that's what he said. I never said he said "50 cents, get some Jade" because that would make no "cents" at all. That part is clear as to what he said. As is the next thing he repeats twice when Liz doesn't hear him the first time He says: "We'll do it before we go on vacation"
@WelshChappie my comment wasn't directed towards you. I see a whole bunch of people saying he said " your so Jade"... what the hell does that mean? Anyway my anger is directed towards these incompetent police. On a perfectly solvable case!
@@MarkVARBERO I don't know the police are incompetent to a large degree here. I mean, could they have expanded the search area for CCTV along Kuykendahl to find the truck and possible plate? Yeah, probably. I spoke to Sgt. Ritchie about the truck couple of months ago and I just said in passing that I don't think the truck is out there or if it is, it's not with the killer or their own truck. I think, even if they possibly had got a clear shot of the licence plate, I don't believe for a second they would be on a genuine plate. They would surely have been on false plates anyway so catching the reg would be useless. Ritchie said he thinks thats a probability too that they were running false plates. Anyhow, I know and I see why a lot say the police are incompetent in this case because on the face of it, it does appear that way but when your look at the details of the case you realise that theres no physical evidence at all, no DNA, No Prints, No footwear impressions, no shell casings, nothing at all. All you have is grainy footage of someone in a gown and what looks like a possible wig, filmed at a distance. I know, even Michael Ritchie said it, when you look at the case at first glance even he thought "Have this solved by the end of the day" because it captured on CCTV. I come to understand that can be a false positive, so to speak. It may seem like great evidence to solve a case, but I bet you anything if you asked the Sheriffs office and detectives working the current Rachel Morin case, they would have said the same and they even have his DNA aswel as his profile image on a nest camera. Yet, months on from Rachel's Murder, that man is still unidentified.
I can hear : excuse me sir, your so jade?@ 5:57? Who are all the voices after 06:00 talking? What on earth.. They hacked the NEST CAM, or Liz/Sergio had a face to face or tel/video conversation with other people that morning, because those voices are not all Liz and Sergio. ... 9:30 sounds like Sergio saying : I don't care about em, or I will care about him (diesel?), I'll take care, I will.
He was saying something like "get some change" at 5:57, I think. Makes sense given the garage sale. At about 6:10 Sergio is talking about affording or [something] before their vacation, I think. The voices after 6:30 sound different and rather suspiciously like the killer from other vids.
I agree. I too hear a second female voice which isn't liz. Interesting when thinking of the neighbour saying Sergio and Liz had a mother in law living there. It seems a really odd thing to get wrong. You don't usually invent other people living at a place that aint. Weird. Also, truck drives back by second time and what sounds like the door shuts as it does. Also, that odd movement behind the tree just before shots are fired, something moved. What, or who, was it? Police were also on scene at 06:58. I know they were tending to Liz, but with every Min or Two that passes, more and more units start arriving one after the other, fire and paramedics too. I wonder why they decided to clear the residence 25 mins after first officer arrived there. Was that because someone said a mother in law or kids were there? They know the shooter had fled cause witnesses have reported it, several of them. When they enter the house, if a suspect was hiding in there having been there all along (co conspirator) then police wont likely find them as they are clearing it for other possible victims, not other offenders. Victims would be out in the open and just a quick walkthrough would suffice to find them. Suspect hiding, wouldn't be found
Thank you Alex. Keeping this case active is crucial to finding justice for Liz. ❤ You go above and beyond.
You do lots of hard work all of your content is original, respectful and pragmatic. 🎉😊
Thank you. Liz deserves justice at the very least. First time I spoke to Liz Father a long time back his words were, "Justice is so fleeting, we pray for nothing less. Thank you for your concern and caring."
I thought then and do now, no need to thank me for caring. I was asked once given I never knew Liz and am not even American etc why do i care so much? Answer is easy, I asked "How come you don't?"
Im really glad someone is looking into this case its always intrigued me and can't understand why it can't be solved... I don't make a habit mentioning other creators but grizzly true crime and aaron mull are great channels keeps to facts and no drama! I would absolutely LOVE if you could maybe do a live stream together and get this stuff out to many more subscribers and creators this is one of those that just really bugs me thanks i really appreciate the work you've put into this 💯🤗
I've always wondered why grizzly focuses on crimes in other countries. There must be content of some sort in the Netherlands. She's writing about a culture she doesn't even know and places she's never been! Go away grizzly!
I don't understand why this can't be solved either!? Can't the FBI help these incompetent cops! Every police official they interview about this says its a completely solvable case???
@@MarkVARBEROFBI has no jurisdiction. FBI only gets involved in federal cases, where federal laws are violated. The FBI can help assist in analyzing certain evidence but they do NOT investigate
@@kleeamd8274fbi is involved , fbi pick and chooses their cases they want. Not just the fbi but the Texas rangers are involved
A bit of a screed, but I hope it may prove interesting.
Besides the Barraza case, I’ve also followed the Missy Bevers slaying closely. For a long time I believed that these were both do-it-yourself murders where the shooter was the person with the grudge, but over the last few months I’ve watched videos by Tom Webster and Gumshoe Stories, and I have come round to the idea that the Bevers killer was a thin person disguised as a fat person, and that the supposed limp is an act, as they seem to walk ok for a pace or two, but then remember that they’re meant to walk in an odd way and start acting again. I then began to wonder if the two murders might have been carried out by the same contract-killer. They took place pretty close to each other both in geographical and temporal terms, and there were a number of similarities in appearance and MO.
The first point is the height and sex of the killers, and these are intimately connected. I personally feel that they were female, and this is a remarkable coincidence in itself, because while women are responsible for the overwhelming majority of contract killings, this is almost always as the employer and not as the culprit. The killers are both about 64-65 inches which is average for a woman. On the other hand if the killers are male then it’s a coincidence that they’re both very short for a man.
Bevers had ‘puncture wounds’ to head and body, while Barraza was shot in head and body
Both killers arrived in the area several hours before the crimes.
Both killers used a disguise. Personally i doubt that Barraza’s killer wore any kind of outlandish disguise - for example the Princess Leis costume sometimes suggested, as I think that Liz would have reacted differently had this been so. The disguises were more for the benefit of the cops than the victims.
Both killers apparently used a revolver.
Both killers took advantage of a narrow window of opportunity of 25-30 mins, and kept their cool when it seemed that the window was closing: Bevers arrived at about 5.10 instead of her usual 5.00, and Sergio left about 10-15 minutes later than normal.
Both killers used Nissan vehicles, and these seem to have vanished into thin air. My hypothesis is that the killer had access to a dealership specialising in second-hand Nissans. I envisage them borrowing a car, carrying out the crime and then putting it back on the lot, and this is why it can’t be found. It’s like the old riddle ‘Where is the best place to hide a tree?’ It may be that some unsuspecting people are riding round in vehicles used during these murders. The fact that the killer didn’t care that the vehicles were caught on CCTV argues that the licence-plates were bogus. A motorist passing the church where Bevers was killed reported seeing a dark SUV coming out, and couldn’t be sure that this was the night of the murder, so it’s possible that this was the killer in yet another Nissan carrying out a dry-run a day or two before the killing. It might also raise questions about the Titan seen near the Barraza home the night before the attack.
It’s pretty clear that the person who killed Barraza was a professional. It’s noteworthy that the person obviously had a preferred escape-route, but when this proved impracticable - possibly they saw a police car and thought the alarm had been raised - they already had a Plan B in mind: they turned around and drove back past the Barraza house and then to the dead-end where they left the road, went down the slight slope and vanished into the back-roads. This implies that they had thoroughly reconnoitred the area beforehand. The fact that one of the shots missed Liz doesn’t invalidate this idea: there are many desirable attributes in a contract-killer, and being a good shot is well down the list. If I were employing such a person I’d look for someone who:
- Was a good planner
- Was a good organiser
- Wouldn’t leave evidence at the scene
- Wouldn’t blab about the crime
Clearly the person who murdered Barraza meets all of these criteria.
According to the family and police, the initial police report was incorrect and all four shots did strike Liz. First shot hit her in the neck, a through and through shot that went on to hit the porch. Two in chest area the final shot hit liz in the face, just above her top lip.
Missy case I know in passing, not great detail. I dont think missy was targeted. The shooters first choice wasnt to go to the church, but they were clearly casing the sports shop on the adjacent parking lot up the road. This to me is the key to it not being targeted because when that venue wasn't plausible, they left and drove away.
I've always envisioned Missys killer leaving that sport wear shop in a really pissed off mood felling like it had been a total waste of time going over there and then, muttering to themselves about their terrible luck, they spot the church and probably out of sheer frustration, decide to turn in to have a look as a sort of consolation prize to go home with like the money for takings etc.
I think missy was just in the right place but the wrong time. I think she walked in and startled the killer who may have felt like a trapped and cornered animal. Missy may have seen a dark figure moving and make for her phone and 911. The shooter is already pissed off at no loot to go home with, now they are looking like going to prison for nothing ! Shot Missy dead as she stood inside the front door.
I believe that's where whe was found. You will know far more than I regarding Missy and that case.
Missy bevers was not a hit job. She walked in on the person robbing the church and got killed. Contract killings are easy to solve cause there's always some kinda paper trail and electronic trail
There has to be a reason why Sergio won’t release the part where he leaves.
I don't know. I've asked Michael Ritchie and he confirms not only is Sergio seen on his, but they have him on the neighbours cam leaving in the white van.
He told me when he gave me the hour footage that the cam was set to record in 1 hour segments and He gave me I think 05:40 - 06:40am so one after that would be of Liz after she was shot. I have heard that on that Liz can be heard after the truck left trying to ask for help and.... Well it's too graphic to say any on public platform but it wouldnt be nice to hear then let's put it that way. I think that's maybe why he won't release it. I wouldn't want nor let my wife's painful last moments be given out for the World to see. It's.jsut as likely he's refusing out of respect for Liz and to let Liz keep her dignity. I think it's the right choice to make.
I hate to be this person, but....does this take place before or after the creepy "get back in" clip? After, correct?
Yes, after
Honestly, I’m trying to understand what they could be sitting at this point. If the Internet has it is completely solved. Dang near. What could they be waiting for other than they suck?
Where's the I love you's Sergio said they exchanged?
Cuts off before that. Sergio would have said that, if he said it at all, as he got in his truck and left. We dont see that, it ends before he leaves.
Omg I hear the “you’re so jade” too!!!
I’m pretty confident that he says “50 cents, get some change” - makes sense while setting up for a yard sale.
Why is the quality so damn bad on a ring camera… like why does he look INVISIBLE on camera
because they are $100 camera with $100 quality picture...move/show cameras cost thousands of dollars
I think sergio says get some change
At 06:52, timestamp not am, in the clip it sounds to me Like a female voice who is not Liz asks "Who the hell are you?"
Weird stuff man, I also hear Sergio say I love you @ 7:20. I lean towards 70/30 that he is involved. I hope he isn't it. We will find out when that pussy gun"man" gets arrested. Only a matter of time, if the coward is reading this : tick tock my friend, tick tock.
I heard it too. Do you think it's coming from someone watching their door cam or Sergios on the phone with someone else?
6:52 I hear “where are you” it sounds like it’s coming from a phone or something
He doesn't say "I love you " to her. And some will say that it gets cut off. Well how convenient. One thing is for sure. There's another female there that's speaking Spanish to him. And in an interview he says "we left " referring to leaving the house before the shooting. I'm fluent in Spanish and I know what I heard. He was talking to his mom. But why lie and not disclose the fact that she left with him. The neighbor wasn't wrong about the mom possibly living there. The mom would stay with them whenever she had arguments with the husband. And if there's one thing I've learned about ppl it's to trust them as far as you can throw them. Especially in these situations. People will only tell you what they want you to know.
What did you hear being said in Spanish? And do you you think the shooter also says something in Spanish before pulling the trigger?
He says 50 cents get some change! Not Jade!
I know that's what he said. I never said he said "50 cents, get some Jade" because that would make no "cents" at all. That part is clear as to what he said. As is the next thing he repeats twice when Liz doesn't hear him the first time He says: "We'll do it before we go on vacation"
@WelshChappie my comment wasn't directed towards you. I see a whole bunch of people saying he said " your so Jade"... what the hell does that mean? Anyway my anger is directed towards these incompetent police. On a perfectly solvable case!
@@MarkVARBERO Okay, I see the comments your referring to now. Do apologise, My mistake.
@@WelshChappie no worries.. I may have placed my comment in the wrong place.... it's a little confusing the way they set these up.... it's all good...
@@MarkVARBERO I don't know the police are incompetent to a large degree here. I mean, could they have expanded the search area for CCTV along Kuykendahl to find the truck and possible plate? Yeah, probably. I spoke to Sgt. Ritchie about the truck couple of months ago and I just said in passing that I don't think the truck is out there or if it is, it's not with the killer or their own truck.
I think, even if they possibly had got a clear shot of the licence plate, I don't believe for a second they would be on a genuine plate. They would surely have been on false plates anyway so catching the reg would be useless. Ritchie said he thinks thats a probability too that they were running false plates.
Anyhow, I know and I see why a lot say the police are incompetent in this case because on the face of it, it does appear that way but when your look at the details of the case you realise that theres no physical evidence at all, no DNA, No Prints, No footwear impressions, no shell casings, nothing at all. All you have is grainy footage of someone in a gown and what looks like a possible wig, filmed at a distance. I know, even Michael Ritchie said it, when you look at the case at first glance even he thought "Have this solved by the end of the day" because it captured on CCTV.
I come to understand that can be a false positive, so to speak. It may seem like great evidence to solve a case, but I bet you anything if you asked the Sheriffs office and detectives working the current Rachel Morin case, they would have said the same and they even have his DNA aswel as his profile image on a nest camera. Yet, months on from Rachel's Murder, that man is still unidentified.
I can hear : excuse me sir, your so jade?@ 5:57? Who are all the voices after 06:00 talking? What on earth..
They hacked the NEST CAM, or Liz/Sergio had a face to face or tel/video conversation with other people that morning, because those voices are not all Liz and Sergio.
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9:30 sounds like Sergio saying : I don't care about em, or I will care about him (diesel?), I'll take care, I will.
He was saying something like "get some change" at 5:57, I think. Makes sense given the garage sale. At about 6:10 Sergio is talking about affording or [something] before their vacation, I think.
The voices after 6:30 sound different and rather suspiciously like the killer from other vids.
@@johnball320 He said "We'll do it before we go on vacation."
I agree. I too hear a second female voice which isn't liz. Interesting when thinking of the neighbour saying Sergio and Liz had a mother in law living there. It seems a really odd thing to get wrong. You don't usually invent other people living at a place that aint. Weird. Also, truck drives back by second time and what sounds like the door shuts as it does. Also, that odd movement behind the tree just before shots are fired, something moved. What, or who, was it?
Police were also on scene at 06:58. I know they were tending to Liz, but with every Min or Two that passes, more and more units start arriving one after the other, fire and paramedics too. I wonder why they decided to clear the residence 25 mins after first officer arrived there. Was that because someone said a mother in law or kids were there?
They know the shooter had fled cause witnesses have reported it, several of them. When they enter the house, if a suspect was hiding in there having been there all along (co conspirator) then police wont likely find them as they are clearing it for other possible victims, not other offenders. Victims would be out in the open and just a quick walkthrough would suffice to find them. Suspect hiding, wouldn't be found
At 5:57He said 50 cents!Get some change?