Jaguar XJR Super (X350) - One of the best V8 bargains around! - BEARDS n CARS
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- Опубликовано: 10 авг 2021
- The X350 and X358 shape Jaguar XJ is arguably the last traditional 'Jag' you can buy, but despite being a decidedly old money approach in a modern world, I actually find them to be among my favourite Jaguar's that I've driven.
In particular these supercharged, 400 horsepower 4.2 V8 XJR models represent a truly huge amount of car for the money, from their copious interior space and luggage room, to their Bentley rivalling ride quality, to their unapologetically old school approach to raw torque based performance, their rock bottom used prices in many cases here in the UK make these easily among the most amazing used performance car bargains on the market...
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Wow, I've always been a fan of this particular vehicle. Always thought it was pure class. Nice to know it packs a punch under the hood as well.
For sure, lovely car
American here! I have found that newer Jaguars in the states are unbelievably reliable. I put over 85k miles on my old '05 XJ8 prior to an unfortunate accident. If you're US state side and do your own maintenance, Ford owned Jaguar / Aston Martin from 2000 - 2009. Jaguar was the "experimental luxury brand" that became "Lincoln Motors" through Ford and thus, every 2004 - 2009 Jaguar utilizes cheap Ford parts... Minus the transmission / old British electrical. They are not "reliable" in the sense of a Ford Focus or an early 2000's Honda Civic. They will take work. These old Jaguars can be worked on and have "cheap" parts vs Jaguars of the past thanks to Ford ownership. I consider them "gear-head" specials, who either want to learn, or want a vehicle they can comfortably drive and learn / work on themselves! My advice is to do your homework, buy one, join a forum, and preserve this wonderful area of "American" British Engineering.
i,ve had three of them. 2, 4 litre ones and 1 4.2, most comfortable cars I've every owned use to think it was the merc 500 sec which I love but XJR are fantastic..When the last one started have expensive problems I sold it and bought an Audi Q5 which is not bad in its own way, every thing works, easy to play the music I want ant my phone connects automatically, but God I miss the Jags, Put a smile on my face every time I stepped into it. Am now thinking of getting another one but they are just a bit too old so am very seriously looking at either the xkr 4.2 or the 5 liter portfolio Xk mainly having watch you clips so thanks for them. the back up plan is possibly the XJ 3 lr but just not that mad on the looks. Im 63 spent mealy all year in hospital, the first 3 weeks in a coma so although the XK is not that practical for me when else am I ever going to own a sports car. Typically now Ive got the time I,m not sure Ive got the money. But it would be so lovely to step into a car again that just makes you grin like a demented Cheshire cat. Very nearly bought one this weekend 5 lr portfolio for 10k withe 39,000 miles but it had the check pedestrian system light on all the time and if this turns out that you have to change all 4 bonnet air bags you can be looking at over 4 k, it was also cat d which I don't mind but they had no info about it. Anyway thanks for the clips really well done and informative
Nice one and glad to hear you're back out and about. The newer X351 shape XJ's definitely offer a huge spec for the cash, and the 5.0 base XK is a highly underrated all rounder with 385 bhp
Hey I have mine for a little over 3 years with 240'000km on the clock and it is running great! It has been really reliable so far with no big repairs and I did most of the maintance myself and its fairly easy to work on.
Nice one
Great to hear a review by another Jagaholic. I'm on my 6th Jag now, a new shape XJ Portfolio diesel and love it. Thanks to our driver bashing government with road tax and petrol prices I've never had a V8 and would love one...maybe one day!
My 2004 XJR has 263k on the odometer, needless to say it been a wonderful car. Cooling hoses are a real problem and there are many of them on the supercharged models and they all fail at different times. You’re absolutely correct about brakes in the air suspension but nothing is terminal. I recently had to do the heater core and a new water pump and I did lose the power steering pump years ago. Otherwise it’s a pretty bomb proof car.
Ah, I know of one on my road. Nice to see a review of this wondrously unassumingly powerful luxury car.
I’ve had enormous fun with S-Type, XJ8L & now the XJ Vaden Plas. Although a pain on repair, just when you think you seen it all, minor repairs to a computer glitch with major needs. Still the car for me!
Great review and as an XJ owner, for many years, not alot that I can add. I will say that some owners have been tempted to change the air suspension over to springs..... Don't do it. It changes the whole geometry and feel of the car.
I've had an X-type, then a 2007 Jaguar XJ8, and then a 2012 Jaguar XF, however I have had 15 cars in my short life, and the XJ8 was my absolute favorite
And of course I lust after getting another XJ, preferably a 2008 with the shark fin fenders, I just wish that I could install an aftermarket Touch button start, I don't care about anything else. Sure if I could find one with adaptive cruise control which is kind of rare that would be awesome but it's not like it's stop and go anyways LOL
The air suspension can give out a yellow warning light. It’s caused by the pump seals wearing. The pressure doesn’t get up in the defined time, so the ECU sends the warning .. but the suspension is actually operable and ok. It’s £800 for a Jag compressor or £400 for after market. However the seals and piston ring can be replaced with a kit from Bagpipingandy for £25. Just done mine. (2008 X351 XJR) It’s an easy job ( other than a snapped stud and tapping a replacement), the compressor is removed by taking off the front near side wheel and the wheel alignment arch splash guard. The front spoiler under guard doesn’t need to be removed, as indicated in various RUclips videos. Don’t buy a Brembo brake version of the XJR. They’re expensive parts to replace/maintain. The standard/OEM discs are cost effective and stop it perfectly. I’ve replaced all corners for £350, all be it sourcing OEM parts though a mate in the trade. 20” alloys need appropriate Pirelli’s but these can be had for
Oops. Typo. 2008 X358.
I have the smaller version the xj6 and i did have air suspension problems, the main problem i had was trying to get someone who could read the codes for some reason. Working on the car is easy i changed an air shock in around 30-45minutes very easy! The Air compressors normally need rebuilding if they weren’t as far gone as mine a kit is around £30 also easy to do. Also the ride height sensor (genuine jag was £80) took about half an hour to replace, other than electrical gremlins mechanically they’re fairly nice to work on so far so i wouldn’t be scared of doing work to them yourself! The suspension system itself is a really simple one thats all colour coded.
I’d love an xjr but for £1500 i couldn’t complain with a black on red xj6, took it on a 1600mile trip around Scotland and never missed a beat, soaked up the awful roads on skye and was plenty fast enough up the mountains.
Nice one!
I bought an 04 XJR in silver over black. It was my first luxury car and first Jag. I purchased it 2,400 miles away and had an epic road trip home in the car. Smooth, powerful and what a thing to look at. Definitely my wife’s favorite car. Though I loved the xjr experience I never felt like the size suited me. Turned to you tube and found your xkr video. Sold the xjr and got an xkr and now I have the right jag for me. I do miss the xjr and question my decision when we have a long road trip ahead of us. What a car.
Ah yeah, nice one. Both offer a lot to love, and are actually very complementary as a two car garage
@@HSGAutomotive I would have kept both but I live where we get snow and I needed something with all wheel drive. Someday in the future though.
Spot on review 👍 I recently swapped my E39 M5 for a Daimler Super Eight and remapped it to 460, not only is it faster than the M5 but it has the perfect sleeper feel about it, absolutely love it.
Awesome, its definitely a car with plenty to offer
How does it compare in other aspects? Rarely anybody has experience with both of these cars.
@@darek4488 The Daimler (X350) can't match the handling of the E39 and as an iconic car, again, no real comparison. But if you want something with lasting appeal for everyday driving comfort and style, the X350 has it nailed. The fluid power of the supercharged V8 is truly addictive; instant loveliness when you want to piss a few people off, but then day long wafting when you want to chill, enjoy the sleeper feel and just drive. Don't get me wrong, i've had a stupid number of E39 BMW's and loved them all, the M5 was the one i'd always wanted, a real stunning car and manual, but when it came to grabbing keys, i'd go for the X350 ones probably 80% of the time.
@@0tlws969 It kinda feels like you should have bought E38 instead of E39. Especially 750i or 740d. It would suit you better.
Love your review,I am the owner of a 2004 xjr,awesome machine,just keep an eye on the air suspension,quite easy to fix and not really expensive ($225) air shock,I also have an S Type R and a XKR just love them all
good info , what other issues to watch for ?
@@RingerRacing Hey I have had no other major issues for all the years I have owned her.
Hi what is your favourite jag out of your three if you had to pick?
@@danieldenizen5799 I would have to say the XKR
I have 05 XJR, best looking car imo and lots of power, coolant system has broken on me in multiple parts tho. All those hoses and connectors in engine bay are the only complaint so far
Great review. I tried for over a year to find a clean XJR here in California. Just couldn't find any with under 100k miles in excellent condition. I probably should've been more open to low 100k mile examples. I ended up with a 2009 XJ8 instead. Agreed on your comment that bushings are a common issue, this was the case for my 12 year-old XJ8 even though the car only had 43k miles when I bought it last year.
Ah yeah, nice one
Great cars. First generation x350 had good seats and comfortable. Later x358 seat are so uncomfortable .
I drive a X350 Super V8 since 2012 and covered 235000 km/145000 mls in that time. It had only minor issues like leaking hoses or failing switches. Only two major thinks went wrong: the air compressor for the suspension and the throttle body. Both were not that expensive. If a had to buy a new throttle body for the Audi A8 I had before I had to spend at least 1500 Euro. For the Jag it was 400. Nothing else wrong with the air suspension (with a distance of more than 185000 mls in total).
I am now thinking about selling the car just to purchase a XKR just for a new experience as long as we are allowed to drive big V8s.
The XJ X350 is well made, comfortable, and not that expensive to run. One of the best cars I owned if not the best. Go buy one as long as there are good examples around! And if you are looking for a more economical car buy a X350 Diesel.
Great looking car
Love the colour.
I have the X358 facelift, the revised front and rear are (to my eyes) a vast improvement on the X350, lowering the perceived roof height and providing the combination of elegance and malevolence that I expect from an XJ. It has the diesel engine, which when remapped has an additional 25% power and torque over standard that provides immense low and mid end grunt which is where you want it, combined with 45mpg in normal use. It doesn't even sound like a diesel.
I've driven and reviewed a couple of X358's, and I did like them. Main issue for me was a surprising lack of headroom because of the sunroof surround
You mean the X351, the X358 was the revised version of the X350 produced from2007-2009.
@@garethhanna9173 Yeah that’s the one
The X358 had much more legroom in the back because they rearranged the front seats so that you can slide your feet underneath them. I have X358 front seats in my X350 but it wasn't easy to do. Basically I had to swap the seat wiring looms and ECU s from the original seats into the X358 seats to make them work.
X358 don't look as elegant. those fenders look like bloted bumpers.
Love this generation of XJ8 / XJR! Only two things I don't like, the silly wooden section on the steering wheel, and the fact that they are all automatics. If this was available with a 6 speed manual, it would be perfection!
Just use the manual gears, rather than leaving it in drive/sport. I had the same view until I adapted my driving style. You can set it up for twisty roads almost like a manual, remembering that this is not a sports car.
@@simonjoconnor59 It's not the same as a manual, using paddles, the PlayStation affect. It's better suited car to have as an auto, effortless.
@@simonjoconnor59 exactly. I used to put mine in 3 and it flew every time i needed it, ragged it through the gears foot to the floor too many times. Fantastic gearbox
When my 04 XJR's timing chain gasket went, it was costly.
Had this XJR after an XKR and it’s awesome. Only switched to Range Rover when I ran out of room. PS. Whoever at Jaguar who signed off the XKR-S should be ashamed of themselves! Defaced a classic.
No
I just got another one 2004 80k miles.
You sound like the car version of Techmoan. Awesome!
haha, cheers
When I got mine earlier this year the air suspension had already been swapped out. That being said I don't know what the original ride was like?
Just going to say, some parts are very hard to find ... I spent weeks trying to find a brake hose for my jag, turns out the part was discontinued and no aftermarket options
Great car and a head turner these days. 🙏👍👍
For sure
@@HSGAutomotive I drive a Jaguar s-type 3 0 since two years. It's so underrated.🚘
Great
If I bought that Jag, can you ship it to Western Australia? Can you also have a reputable check on the possible rust issue?
Another great video. Thanks! Okay, given a choice (with what you know now,) would you buy an X350 XJR or X150 XKR? I believe the road tax on this car is also lower in the U.K. than later registered cars (I may be completely wrong on that, so it’s not gospel). Both are brilliant, so a nice problem to have. Cheers Nick
As an overall package I would say the XJR is a better car for the kind of daily use I need. The extra rear seat space, boot space, more comfortable ride and lower initial price are superior. I kinda already knew all that though, with the primary thing that swayed me to an XKR being unabashedly - the looks. I knew at the time that practicality would take a hit compared to the previous QP and Touareg, but I didn't think it would be as much of an issue as it turned out to be. Nothing major, just those occasions when the trunk space is a little awkward for shopping, or the rear seats needed to be used for my nephews etc. To be honest the only reason why I still don't own an XJR, and went for a newer Quattroporte instead, is the wow factor. The XJ is a little too much of a sleeper for my current tastes, having already experienced that phase of driving with the Touareg V10.
@@HSGAutomotive Yep, I understand your reasons completely. Funny thing, that wow factor!
I own a 2004 XJ8. It's a pleasure to drive but very high maintenance like a fancy girlfriend might be. Mine currently has about 75000 miles on the Odo. Again, a pleasure. But, I can't tell you how many times I've had to replace bulbs that blew out for no reason. 😩
Yeah had a run in with a few bulb replacements in my XKR as well, lol
great video, what years xj8, xj8r or s-type r are the most reliable?
Later the better in all cases
Great car. I did 150k miles in my XJR. Wonderful
I’m about to get a 168k miles on it. Should I take a look on something?
@Tài Võ if it's been well maintained, it should be fine. Change the transmission fluid and check all bushes etc are in good condition for handling.
@@richardcarter1000 how many miles you have on it today? Thank you
@Tài Võ I sold it at around 154k miles. It was still going great though.
Don’t forget about the aluminum, no rust, light and stronger.
I didn't forget, and aluminium does oxidize.
you’ll still want your mechanic in the back seat at all times
Really wish owners wouldn't put a leaping Jaguar mascot on the bonnets of modern Jags, it looks so naff imo
I already have an XKR X100 but I sort of want an XJ alogside the XK.
My review of the X100 will be out in a few days funnily enough
@@HSGAutomotive I look forward to it. I enjoy mine a lot.
When can you review the XK 5.0? vs the 4.2?
Not sure, depends when I get my hands on a 5.0
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5 only
Are the seats low down?
I usually set them lower for better headroom, but no not particularly low
whats this like compared to the c55 amg mate? does it drive as good?
I like it significantly more tbh. Not as badass as ''AMG'' being written on the back, but for everything else I'd have this over it anyday. Now the 1999 E55 AMG on the other hand....now that is a difficult one. Still one of my favourite cars I've ever driven.
I have one myself but it's a problem to maintain and worse of all jaguar here in SA have failed me when it comes to fixing it.
can you defeat all the nannies on this chassis ?
I wonder if you can still get the 6 cylinder 5 speed manual gearbox version of this model of car? That one is meant to be even more raw in terms of driving experience(thanks to the manual gearbox).
Not sure, sounds about as elusive as the 3.5 V8 XK with 250 bhp
I'm pretty sure that all X350s were auto.
@@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548 I remember reading Jeremy Clarkson's review in Top Gear, where he praised the first version of the XJR(the supercharged 6 cylinder version) and mentioned it was available as either a 4 speed automatic or 5 speed manual version; he also did a review of the V8 supercharged version and lamented the loss of the manual gearbox.
@@alphabetaxenonzzzcat in your original question you said "this model of car" which is the aluminium bodied X350. The 6 cylinder XJR would have been an earlier model I guess, such as the X300 or X308.
@@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548 Sorry, my mistake. Yes, I was referring to the old steel bodied version of the XJR.
What totally ruins this car for me is the lack of a limited slip differential. It's pathetic watching ONE tire take the brunt of those 400 horses. Nothing is more lame than a 400 hp "one wheel peel."
Ahah
Any aftermarket solution? I wonder what differential it uses.
This is the best comment btw .. lack of lsd is large
@@RingerRacing You find anything about the aftermarket solution?
is thus issue serious and a deal breaker? i have little idea of what or how this happens
Prices are creeping up. For very low mileage, and derivatives of the models, it's possible to get close to £30,000
I was thinking this guy’s British accent was fake. Guess I’m wrong
Why would it be
Did look at these but the road tax is $$$
Yeah all of my cars so far have been £600 a year, the highest possible xD
I dont think this car ever knew who it was supposed to be . Compared to my beautiful Series 3 V12 (Y'know the one the Lord himself drives) the X350 is a weird kettle of fish , it has looks reminiscent of the Series 3 but somehow misses the target , its an ungainly awkward looking beast that is a world apart from what the Series 3 did so perfectly which was was "grace pace and space" . Mine is total silence and soft doeskin upholstery that delivers a travelling experience un matched by more modern Jags . Dont believe me ? ask Clarkson ! My V12 is the epitome of what car manufactures strive to match but cant and of course , my analogue electrics are all fixable and diy friendly unlike modern digital nonsense . Thankfully, there are many Series 3's coming back from Japan . all in fabulous unmolested condition, .
And what's the price point on one of those?
@@HSGAutomotive I paid £15k for a 25k miler v12 sovereign full Japanese service history by "Jaguar Japan" its 1990 and there are a number for sale right now .Japanese climate ensures no rust nor interior sun light damage , mine is as it left the factory
When was that?
It looks stunning.
It is luxurious.
It is a sleeper.
It sounds great.
Conclusion: A very good car.
scam thumbnail...good work
What are you even talking about.
1st comment?
The face doesn't do it for me.
You could always black out the grille. I'm sure there are aftermarket options available
Having owned one they are not very good.
Performance is majorly blunted by a gearbox with very wide ratio and a tall final drive.
The gearbox almost always sets off in 2nd gear. I only ever got in 1st if it sensed an incline. You cannot select 1st on the j gate so if you wanted a spirited acceleration out of a junction usually you were left pulling from 2nd gear and honestly it felt really slow.
Once moving the kick down say from 3rd to 2nd wasn’t too bad and got a move on but for me I wanted to feel acceleration and it was very disappointing.
An XKR 150 is much better in that sense as you are able to select 1st from the paddles.
The slow gearbox, tall gearing, tall FD really let this car down.