The Mobilemix looks like it could be a Swiss Army knife kind of mixer, being useful as a desk interface, battery powered tool for remote field/gig work and other things I am sure I have not thought of yet. The Showbox looks amazing for its size. I imagine I will see a few buskers backpacking these around. But I can't help but be intrigued by the ProFx line. Mackie builds great mixers and -- while I am pleased with my current mixers -- it's always interesting to see how their mixers evolve.
I'm just dipping my toe into Mackie products for the first time. I bought a Mackie Freeplay live - simply because it was the lightest battery powered 'pa' type speaker (4 kg) and could be controlled remotely via Bluetooth on their Connect app. It's, sort of, a very entry level Showbox setup - maybe I'll move up to the Showbox next (but it is 9.5 kg - so maybe I need a roadie). But, in addition to the quality of the product, what I really like about the Mackie company already is their sense of fun. The instruction manual states that you should save the box for your cat to play in, and also remember to "act surprised" when it jumps out at you. Many of us do music for fun. I don't mind the trite corporate Marketing Messages in an advert, but I hate it when a company continues the 'marketing speak' in their user manuals - I've already bought the product, you don't need to keep selling it to me! So well done to Mackie for lightening up a bit. I found it funny... and I don't even have a cat. The speaker's good too.
I love the mainstream product so far based on it's specs...BUT, what i don't see is the HDMI spec. I know the Rode Streamer X has freesync on that hdmi AND it does 1080p240, 1440p144, and 4k60. If the mackie mainstream does that, RIP streamer X. BUT, it's really helpful on having that USB C hub for additional webcams and usb mics along side with XLR. This would be super helpful for dual pc setups (if the HDMI supports 1080p240 or 1440p144hz) or single pc with console gaming. I need answers! lol Also, does the software have virtual channels that are separate (unlike rode unify)? Pleaseeeee lol
The DLZ Creator XS is perfect for myself as I need it to be more compact and would be a set it and leave it type affair so would not need the faders. The NDI in that is perfect for streaming when creating music... I can use my interface for that and stream that audio to it to stream without any qwarms. The Mackie MainStream will be a great addition to the gaming/streaming setup, putting everything together and making it a lot easier for everything to sync also. I also like the mixers, but will need to explore those better as there are many other options in this area... but, if they have the some funky DSP with pitch correction, that might be good for some improve live live-streams.
I'm curious about the ShowBox, MobileMix, and MainStream. I'm excited to learn about all of them! I'd love to see you feature them all as I like your thorough look into things!
Thanks for the video, great announcements! I cant wait for you to review the XS, if its all that the big one does I'd love to get one, perfect for portable setups!
What I really want to see is a price under 500$ on the DLZ XS, I get that the full size is much expensive for a reason, but also to beat Rodecaster duo at 500$ it would have to deliver something special. I still wish today to get a 1 mic input for streaming under 500$
I watched this a second time after hearing you talk about its 10k reception in its first day. It makes sense to me that it did so well. You covered all the bases visually as well as with your review. It was interesting, to the point , succinct as well. Good job! 18k in 3 days as I write this!
Definilty curious about the MainStream. Looks like a fantastic device. Wonder what software comes with it. Compression, noise gate and such. Will it work with Røde software?
Mobilemix is interesting. And the mini dlz could be in the running for my next audiointerface. Was looking to buy the DLZ but holding of til it becomes ckear what rode is going to do with Mackie. This gear was developed before rode bought Mackie....
I was excited by dlz xs, untill I learnt it only support DC power source... Since I am always looking for some really portable professional mobile mixer to compitted to yamaha ag mk2... So I might want to know more about Mackie mobile mixer
looks like the XS loses two additional headphone ports. I like them because i can mute mic monitoring on the headphones on my current creator. On the 1/4 outs/speaker outs mackie does not have the quickmix feature/option to mute the mic which is un-useable for me unless someone can show me how to turn off mic monitoring on the 1/4 outs lol!
Mainstream 10000% and in particular I wanna know if the companion software is available for mac and already fully working or if it'll be a beta version like Rode did with the X. That will mostly determine if I'll buy one or not
Oh I don't know...there seems to be a tonne of money in this section...and "pro" is so subjective. Anything released in 2023 as entry level is largely better than anything pro in 2017
Right, where is the Mackie digital 32 or 64 channel console that at least competes with wing, prosonus, and the like? To me it seems like they ignored digital until very recently. 🤷
I was hoping Mackie would do a bigger version of the DLZ with more combo jack inputs & better preamps (current DLZ Creator preamps are Onyx which came out in 2005 😬). Instead they went smaller...no thank you.
@@DarkCornerStudios Time to upgrade from my GOXLR. I love it, but no software updates. Only 1 mic.. smh. Mackie/Rode is like Microsoft/Bethesda/Activision.. Everything MUST get better.
Now that RØDE owns Mackie I question how long some of these new devices will last (or if RØDE will choose to end RØDE stuff) - seems to be a lot of overlap
How about an update to fix the original DLZ Creator! Having your audio split every 18 minutes because of the fat 32 Old file system! Stop hocking equipment for these companies instead of calling them out for the products they put out! without supporting it.
I do not hock. I am always willing to critique. As far as I know...all the audio that is split has zero loss and it takes less than a second to stitch it together in a daw. Sounds rather petty to launch a hit video...just saying
@@DarkCornerStudios I feel like one update! In 6 months and you release another unit! And you don’t hold them accountable! The Rodecaster is the industry standard! To fix something and get it right they’ll have a great patch that keeps improving that unit continuously. Also, the first month they’ll have at least minimum of 2 patches fixing, any release problems. And the quality of the Rode is higher than the Mackie DLZ! Initial release 1998, FAT32, limitations, Limited to 4GB files and lower. Can have up to 16TB partitions. File size limit 4GB. Initial release 2006, exFAT No realistic partition file limits! Also the file size limit up to 16 exbibytes. They should have at least been using exFAT format! In a coming patch they will be switching to exFAT to allow you to format your SD card. We agreed to disagree. The proof is in the product.
@EtherGamerNetwork the point is I don't think they consider it a flaw. A mixer that size 8s t considered "portable" to begin with and probably aren't going to put man hours into fixing a system that works as they designed it. Why update something like that? Quality is relative... And they can do as they wish
They are owned by an umbrella company that owns Rode. So I think the products are going to work hand jn hand What that means...and this is my guess...that Rode may be planning the next big thing. Stay tuned for that
@@DarkCornerStudios I hope so, i wish for a Roadcaster duo streamer X fusion. Mainstream looks like he can be that depending on a couple things that we don't know yet.
The Mobilemix looks like it could be a Swiss Army knife kind of mixer, being useful as a desk interface, battery powered tool for remote field/gig work and other things I am sure I have not thought of yet. The Showbox looks amazing for its size. I imagine I will see a few buskers backpacking these around. But I can't help but be intrigued by the ProFx line. Mackie builds great mixers and -- while I am pleased with my current mixers -- it's always interesting to see how their mixers evolve.
I'm just dipping my toe into Mackie products for the first time. I bought a Mackie Freeplay live - simply because it was the lightest battery powered 'pa' type speaker (4 kg) and could be controlled remotely via Bluetooth on their Connect app. It's, sort of, a very entry level Showbox setup - maybe I'll move up to the Showbox next (but it is 9.5 kg - so maybe I need a roadie).
But, in addition to the quality of the product, what I really like about the Mackie company already is their sense of fun. The instruction manual states that you should save the box for your cat to play in, and also remember to "act surprised" when it jumps out at you. Many of us do music for fun. I don't mind the trite corporate Marketing Messages in an advert, but I hate it when a company continues the 'marketing speak' in their user manuals - I've already bought the product, you don't need to keep selling it to me!
So well done to Mackie for lightening up a bit. I found it funny... and I don't even have a cat.
The speaker's good too.
I love the mainstream product so far based on it's specs...BUT, what i don't see is the HDMI spec. I know the Rode Streamer X has freesync on that hdmi AND it does 1080p240, 1440p144, and 4k60. If the mackie mainstream does that, RIP streamer X. BUT, it's really helpful on having that USB C hub for additional webcams and usb mics along side with XLR. This would be super helpful for dual pc setups (if the HDMI supports 1080p240 or 1440p144hz) or single pc with console gaming. I need answers! lol
Also, does the software have virtual channels that are separate (unlike rode unify)? Pleaseeeee lol
The DLZ Creator XS is perfect for myself as I need it to be more compact and would be a set it and leave it type affair so would not need the faders.
The NDI in that is perfect for streaming when creating music... I can use my interface for that and stream that audio to it to stream without any qwarms.
The Mackie MainStream will be a great addition to the gaming/streaming setup, putting everything together and making it a lot easier for everything to sync also.
I also like the mixers, but will need to explore those better as there are many other options in this area... but, if they have the some funky DSP with pitch correction, that might be good for some improve live live-streams.
The Mobilemix will be so useful for small home studio also … please review
I'm curious about the ShowBox, MobileMix, and MainStream. I'm excited to learn about all of them! I'd love to see you feature them all as I like your thorough look into things!
What i buy mackie pro fx v3+ or new digital compact dlz mixer for live events?
I am curious for all of these products but most excited for Mobile Mix and Mainstream. Curious too if any of these have 32-bit float audio.
Thanks for the video, great announcements! I cant wait for you to review the XS, if its all that the big one does I'd love to get one, perfect for portable setups!
What I really want to see is a price under 500$ on the DLZ XS, I get that the full size is much expensive for a reason, but also to beat Rodecaster duo at 500$ it would have to deliver something special. I still wish today to get a 1 mic input for streaming under 500$
Tbh all I want from them is one stop center for backing track and band mixer.
Priced right it would sell like crazy
Be interesting to what their roadmap will be, having been recently acquired by Rode..
Still Rocking' 828 OG's and a d8b......
I like all of them and looking forward to the review ...💯👍
I watched this a second time after hearing you talk about its 10k reception in its first day. It makes sense to me that it did so well. You covered all the bases visually as well as with your review. It was interesting, to the point , succinct as well. Good job! 18k in 3 days as I write this!
I look forward to the XS and mainstream
Yeah I think those are gonna be fun!
@@DarkCornerStudios I'm hoping the XS can replace my MOTU M4 and it's crackling issues during Livestreams
@@MarineX well if the DLZ creator is any indication...shouldn't be an issue
I wonder if the Busker Kit will be 24 bits and 48 Khz. I really want to do some recordings with street performers.
It is
@@snwbrdr65 Oh cool. I didn't wonder nearly enough to check myself. I'm curious but lazy.
Do a video of the Mackie ShowBox... Is it better than the bose s1 pro plus for buskers?..
Definilty curious about the MainStream. Looks like a fantastic device. Wonder what software comes with it. Compression, noise gate and such. Will it work with Røde software?
I’m interested in the portable mixer.
The new streaming gear looks nice, but I still want me some sweet sliders. :(
Sweet sweet sliders.
Hard agree
Mobilemix is interesting. And the mini dlz could be in the running for my next audiointerface.
Was looking to buy the DLZ but holding of til it becomes ckear what rode is going to do with Mackie. This gear was developed before rode bought Mackie....
I don't know...I think Rode and Mackie were working together before the official announcement
@@DarkCornerStudios sure hope so. A bit more information on if and how they are going to merge the product lines or implement technologies vice versa.
Mobile mix looks nice, would like to see that
I wanna know more about that mainstream and can I use it with my RCP2. Keep the videos coming bro!!!
Oh I can't wait for that one!
I was excited by dlz xs, untill I learnt it only support DC power source... Since I am always looking for some really portable professional mobile mixer to compitted to yamaha ag mk2... So I might want to know more about Mackie mobile mixer
It does look sweet...
But to be fair to the XS...that screen looks like it would drain a battery quick
looks like the XS loses two additional headphone ports. I like them because i can mute mic monitoring on the headphones on my current creator. On the 1/4 outs/speaker outs mackie does not have the quickmix feature/option to mute the mic which is un-useable for me unless someone can show me how to turn off mic monitoring on the 1/4 outs lol!
Does the Mix out make it so you can add another speaker for stereo?
Good question!
I want to see everything😂
Yes, Yes, and Yes.
Mainstream has to have a pass through supporting high refresh rate and 1440 to suit today's gamer, lets see what it's got when he gets it
xs looks good, but i just got xl, keeping it, im Shure xs is stripped down, well, at least rode buying them, did not stop the show. 😀
Saw on a few platforms that they're dropping 8 products, I count 5 and if you count the proFX separate it'll be 7...🤔🤔🤔
🎉
Mainstream 10000% and in particular I wanna know if the companion software is available for mac and already fully working or if it'll be a beta version like Rode did with the X. That will mostly determine if I'll buy one or not
What about the pro-level equipment? They need to go back to that. Remember when they used to do Pro level mixers and other stuff
Oh I don't know...there seems to be a tonne of money in this section...and "pro" is so subjective.
Anything released in 2023 as entry level is largely better than anything pro in 2017
Right, where is the Mackie digital 32 or 64 channel console that at least competes with wing, prosonus, and the like? To me it seems like they ignored digital until very recently. 🤷
wow love the sarcasm ""mm-m-mmm-mm-mm--mackie? ccc-c--c--cc-c--c-ould it be truuuueeee???"
I was hoping Mackie would do a bigger version of the DLZ with more combo jack inputs & better preamps (current DLZ Creator preamps are Onyx which came out in 2005 😬). Instead they went smaller...no thank you.
Love the vids. Keep up the content I’m looking forward to review of the non-Chungus DLZ.
Dlz xs seems interesting
Yeah...and a smaller footprint from the Creator is really cool.
I love that mixer...so this should be awesome
@@DarkCornerStudios One thing i don't like not powered by USB
Feature ALL OF IT
I like the cut of your jib!
@@DarkCornerStudios Aye Aye.
@@DarkCornerStudios Time to upgrade from my GOXLR. I love it, but no software updates. Only 1 mic.. smh. Mackie/Rode is like Microsoft/Bethesda/Activision.. Everything MUST get better.
i knew Rode bought it .... so here it is.
Rode and Mackie Shure and Presonus who will be next !
Very interesting
But can it make me a cheese toastiy? With its Watt output capacity?
I shall introduce the toastie test
@DarkCornerStudios With BBQ sauce thanks.
@andrewc965 oh I plan on visiting Aus and I gotta try that
@@DarkCornerStudios Perhpas extreme travel for a toastie. Perhaps I just post you a machine?
Now that RØDE owns Mackie I question how long some of these new devices will last (or if RØDE will choose to end RØDE stuff) - seems to be a lot of overlap
I have theories...but I'm saving it for the Mainstream review
@@DarkCornerStudios I’ll be checking in when you post! Great videos as always!
The usual problem with Mackie plastic box speakers is they sound like crap.
I love mackie
Great but..
Will they N.I.M.B? 😮
dammit, take my $$$ also long time make mixer user in live .... so much love
You just want it all?
Lol...yeah much respect to Mackie...they make great gear
@@DarkCornerStudios honestly, yah... I have no use for it, but dammit yes
How about an update to fix the original DLZ Creator! Having your audio split every 18 minutes because of the fat 32
Old file system! Stop hocking equipment for these companies instead of calling them out for the products they put out! without supporting it.
I do not hock.
I am always willing to critique.
As far as I know...all the audio that is split has zero loss and it takes less than a second to stitch it together in a daw.
Sounds rather petty to launch a hit video...just saying
@@DarkCornerStudios I feel like one update! In 6 months and you release another unit! And you don’t hold them accountable! The Rodecaster is the industry standard! To fix something and get it right they’ll have a great patch that keeps improving that unit continuously. Also, the first month they’ll have at least minimum of 2 patches fixing, any release problems. And the quality of the Rode is higher than the Mackie DLZ!
Initial release 1998, FAT32, limitations, Limited to 4GB files and lower. Can have up to 16TB partitions. File size limit 4GB.
Initial release 2006, exFAT No realistic partition file limits! Also the file size limit up to 16 exbibytes. They should have at least been using exFAT format! In a coming patch they will be switching to exFAT to allow you to format your SD card. We agreed to disagree. The proof is in the product.
@EtherGamerNetwork the point is I don't think they consider it a flaw.
A mixer that size 8s t considered "portable" to begin with and probably aren't going to put man hours into fixing a system that works as they designed it.
Why update something like that?
Quality is relative...
And they can do as they wish
Aren’t they owned by Rode? Are they competing with themselves?
Probably a product they already developed before their acquisition. Even if it outsells the streamer X, both profits Rode in the end.
They are owned by an umbrella company that owns Rode.
So I think the products are going to work hand jn hand
What that means...and this is my guess...that Rode may be planning the next big thing.
Stay tuned for that
@@DarkCornerStudios I hope so, i wish for a Roadcaster duo streamer X fusion. Mainstream looks like he can be that depending on a couple things that we don't know yet.
DLZed.
Mackie is No More... Rode anal retentive corporation owns the brand now. Mackie is Dead.
Mackie is a pass. There s better for the same price in everything they make.
Oof...hard disagree.
@@DarkCornerStudios That s fine. Show me a product from them and I ll give you 5 better
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