POND DIG: Why? History, Planning…Oh, and DIGGING!
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2023
- A little history of our property helps to understand why we are digging out our pond. Tractor Time with Tim uses the Kubota Mini-Ex to dig deeper!
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I don't know how long you allready make video's ... But this video shows that I am allready watching this channel for a long time. I do remember the old house, seems less than 5 years, time flies, when you are having fun !!!
Thanks for sticking with us!
You gave us a lot of information on the property and the plans you have in the property. It take time. Stick with it and it will happen. Enjoy your videos.
As someone who wants to put a pond on my own property, I really appreciated the information on the different soil types! Dirt work is way more fascinating than I ever would have imagined!
Regarding the old drain tile, it seems like this pond was built with intentional leakage in mind, in order to raise the local water table. Similar function to natural wetlands.
Tim and Christie, thank you for being such an encouragement to me. Blessings! ❤
Balancing young family life, trying to live by freelancing, renovations of old farm house that my folks bought before my dad passed and just over 8 acres that essentially a kind of valley, and now 42 days and counting with a new born in NICU in a govt hospital; has certainly taught me to look at everything differently.
Tim's videos have definitely helped keep me sane and inspired, as well as see how the practical and varied approaches we all take to such projects, I wanted to enlarge / deepen our pond now I'm thinking, I may have over estimated the value and experiences of the skills I learnt with our skid-steer in my early 20's.
Thanks Tim
Hope your newborn is doing well!
@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks Tim, he's now reached 1.69 kg (3.72lbs) today, still on and off oxygen supplied through nasal tube. But at least they not saying anything more about blood transfusion, menengitis or pneumonia, its been an unbelievable roller coaster. No family or newborn should have go through this.
You and Christy did an excellent job of incorporating the past videos and examples of the issues and situations that you described throughout the whole process. The review along with lessons learned, past, present and future plans were comprehensive and well done. It sure gives everyone the overall picture. Let’s see what happens! Blessings.
Its amazing what we can all accomplish when we break a massive project into smaller, manageable tasks. Tim, you've made great progress. Your patient and deliberate approach is paying dividends. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished pond, and to learning along the way.
Tim, I love watching this project and so blessed y’all are a family in Christ.
Trying to work to pay the bills and also find the time to do your own projects is the hardest part. This will all come together in time. That excavator sure is making a difference. Imagine trying to do this with a backhoe. I’m looking forward to see it all come together for you guys. Stay safe.
this is the reason i got 3 half finishished livestock shelters in various stages lol, balancing work time and home project work, once framing is done i just need to bit the bullet and make a big metal order for it all
Enjoying your video on the pond Tim ,Christie and take look ( letsdig 18 ) Hes the best on pond diger .
Tim I don't know to much about ponds, but in my travels I have seen 100's if not 1000's of them. The one common denominator is having a pond bank that you can mow and not have to weed eat. Wish you much success in this project
Great video! Glad to hear you called in a local farmer familiar with your soil types! Your perseverance is definitely paying off!
Lookin’ good! It always depresses me when I see that beautiful open field and what is to come, littered with houses, bratty kids and people who will complain because you’re making too much noise or dust. It’s a shame. Looking forward to the rest of the series!
We all love the visual beauty of farm acreage, but you know Tim and Christie are devoted Christians. Let's look at all those new neighbors as children of God, precious souls. It may be that someone yet to move in there will be the next "Tim" 50 years from now because of what he or she witnessed next door.
God works like that, ya know. ❤
Looking good Tim slow and steady wins the race I’m loving watching you and Neil digging the pounds back to back on Sunday mornings it’s been very enjoyable for me
Big job old boy good luck 👍🏻.
This is all great, if inapplicable to my pond, which will all be dug with my 1025r. In Arizona, on a volcanic ridgline
Good video Tim and Kristy.
Tim, I saw that someone else also suggested talking to Mike, aka DirtPrefect about the pond situation. You have visited him and I am sure he would try and find time to drive up to check out what you are working on. He and Letsdig 18 seem to be two of the best pond experts in the whole country. Good luck and God Bless.
An excellent exposition Tim - you've really clarified some of the bigger questions surrounding this project. Great choice getting the expert in to take a look, too.
You might look at sheet piling
Your persistence is paying off. Project is looking great and I am really enjoying this series.
Very interesting, I’d love to dig a pond on my acreage.
Just subscribed through your Messick's video. Very keen to see how this ends up.
Oh how nice it must be to dig and not hit solid rock... Your move process and work on this property have been really enjoyable. I am glad you stuck through it and brought us along as much as you had. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, ideas and videos. Amazing that you still had the old spare to match up wheels on the truck. About time that wheel got some action. 😂 sounds like the bailer is ready to rock, looking forward to seeing more videos coming up. Safe travels going to get the new corn head. Wishing you and your family the best.
Good stuff
23:25 Learning as you go with input from those who know more than you do on the subject, just like we do. Keep up the great work Tim.
Looking better (to me) all the time Tim! Looks like the muck is really drying nicely too.
Yep. Most of the muck is out.
Being a long time viewer, it has been interesting watching things evolve with your family and channel. I do miss the simplicity of your projects when you lived in Carmel, gardening with your daughter, only having the one Johnny and the constant barrage of people saying you needed a bigger tractor. 😅 Now, you have more equipment then most people and bigger, more sophisticated projects. It is nice going back and watching the older videos. Good luck with the pond and drainage projects.
And yet folks STILL say we need more and bigger equipment!
Yes, we recognize that this pond project is ‘too big’ for our typical viewer.
However, it needs to be done, and we show whatever we are doing.
Also, there is no way to ‘stay the same’. We would not want to even if we could!
Life is a journey. Hopefully we have grown somewhat as people too.
…and as you know, we still LOVE the little tractors. I think next Sunday’s episode is a 1025r backyard project for our friend.
@TractorTimewithTim I should have added that I do enjoy these bigger projects, too. I have been waiting on the pond project to begin since the first time you mentioned it after buying this home.
@@Dale37 thanks Dale!
very informative!
Tim, Your state extension office should be able to help. I know ours here in Arkansas. They'll help you with soils.
After watching Oak Island, they have run into the blue clay which they found was used as a liner preventing the water from entering or leaving. The project looks to be daunting, but is coming along. I could see a difference in Christie's facial expression between the then shots and now. She has a more relaxed appearance now. Anyway, enjoy playing in the sand, just like when we were kids, only this is more like work.
Good Luck with your pond, it will add much to your beautiful property. I’m looking forward to the next pond video!
Very interesting and thorough explanation, as always Tim👏😇
Thanks for a very good tutorial on planning and digging, and digging. It's all good. Multi year planning when dealing commercially is something many not in the process can have trouble visualizing.
Bentonite might be something to look into.
Nice detailed backstory today, especially with the expert insight. It makes me wonder what all different soil types are in my hometown. At least your grass looks good with all of the water from the pond getting drained.
You are doing a fine job. I am sure it will look great in the end. From what you showed today. It is not quite the end yet... :) The summer project that takes all summer is right on schedule.
hey what about underground tiles. DP puts those tiles in on Farmer Chris' farm and they seem to be having pretty good luck. it seems that pitch is key. hm, i guess you have nowhere you can daylight the tile to let the water run away. but with the new housing project coming they maybe happy to allow you to drain into their water system to keep the water moving. ( oh so they had tiles. full of dirt now though. hm. )
lol how about what the clampetts had. lol a cement pond. lol
maybe they put the pond in due to the flooding of the front yard.
you know, i wonder, mixing cement in soil allows for a strengthening of the soil, i wonder if it would allow it to hold water.
it's coming. it just takes time and thought, and you're doing that very well. it will be great! thanks for allowing us to be virtual pond builders. this is kind of fun. you know, i could get use to this virtual work thing. no heat, no cold, no rain, no bugs, no strain, no mess, lol, this might just be the future of work. if you could just patent it and sell it. 🤣😂🤣😆 trillions!
Good looking progress. Starting to take shape.
Have a great day.
With faith and perseverance your plan will come to fruition. Your doing a great job! Can't wait to see the finished product.
Tim when we had our pond dug out 40 yrs ago. they dug down to clay and then lined everything with the clay compacted it in. it has been holding water since. every so often I travel past my old home I grew up in and check it out.
Great video!
I enjoy keeping up with new technology. We run New Holland at Railhead Ranch. Absolutely intrigued by the electric T4. I am curious to see how quickly the duty cycle is improved and time to charge is reduced. Also, when battery life stats are available and the cost to replace batteries is released, we will have a good idea of feasibility. Initially, I think these new toys will be cost prohibitive for everyday Joes, but there are still some great advantages. Worth it to be an early adopter???? We’ll depend on pros like you to keep us informed. Thank you for the detailed and informative videos.
Oh No, I meant to put this on another video I watched this morning. Clearly, I spent some time catching up on the good stuff on your channel I missed. The pond video was great as well. I am working through a pond issue with a 1/4 acre pond on our place, the only one not holding water. I always enjoy seeking out what I don't know about what I don't know.... Thank you for the knowledge, history, and insight here as well. I will copy the above comment to the correct video.
Definitely a major project but fun to watch the planning and execution. I’m sure it’ll be beautiful when completed!
Mostly flat ground is always hard to deal with concerning drainage. I'm sure you will get the pond figured out though and it will look good! Would be nice if the developers are willing to work with you to permanently solve those drainage issues. Or at least not cause you more problems in the end from their development. Side note: you look good in green and in orange! 😊
Oh wow, you have took on a big responsibility with the pond. Good luck with it.
I have almost the exact same situation as you. My 5 acres has a grand total of 3" of fall where the house, front and back lawn are. It's taken me since 2009 to control where I want the water to go, but I'm finally OK with the drainage around here. My garden still floods sometimes, but the lawn doesn't.
I wonder how the new subdivision will impact your property? Lots of new impervious surfaces will lead to more runoff, but maybe there will be new sewers to deal with it?
Fighting water isn't a battle but a war! Bentonite clay is good material for pond lining.
Nope. Shadows aren’t affecting me at all. I really want to get a handful of that soil and texture it. I’m no pond expert but I’m loving that soil.
Great video, great cause, and it looks like a lot of fun
You'll get there Tim. A huge job for sure. The mini ex is certainly helping.
You can get a lot of information about ponds from NCRS AG
I would talk to Mike from dirt perfect he is a tile machine lol
Tim, you should call your Dirt Perfect friend. He understands dirt and clays. As you know he has built several or repaired several large ponds on his channel. It might make a good video for both of you.
A day late but . LETS GET STARTED
Thanks!
This is one of those good problems, it's important to know the difference. In the western desert where it seldom rains the lack of water is a problem, too much water is an inconvenience. On the bright side it isn't dusty. lol
I think about this at night on the way to the bathroom, my kidneys are working so this is a good problem. My uncle died from kidney failure so I try to be thankful for the everyday things.
Thanks for the update, if you ever need another tractor driver I'm not to far away to help! If need be, can bring the B2601 haha.
Tim you need water to flow into your pond from the rain because your pond is not spring fed. That Blueish clay has a very low permeability rate meaning it is excellent for lining a pond to get it to hold water. That is a very good clay for a levees. Just like the one we built around New Orleans.
You are heading in the right direction, do it with small slow steps.... I bet it was dug with a Drag-line.. you can tell by looking around the edges and seeing the wide teeth marks..... You are doing a good job...😮😅... This is a GREAT Video...😊😊🍔🍔🍔🍔💪👍✌️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Drag line operators will always impress me. No hydraulics, no pilot operated valves (power assist on controls). Just a man, a few pedals, and a bunch of levers controlling clutch and brake assemblies operated by ingeniously designed cams & linkages.
Oh buddy...that Mini looks great!! Can't wait to get one for myself....but $$$ ouch lol....be safe god bless guys!!
Yep. Not cheap.
Your issues with your pond is interesting. We have just been trying to rebuild the band side of our pond that has washed in a little. I have been backing up my tractor with a Kelly backhoe on it dragging material back up to the edges. Of course my reach is limited and results in a rough un-even edges. I graded some down some today. It was dug into a hillside back in the 60's and banked high on open side. We do not have a drainage problem as there is a lot of fall down deep into a nearby active creek cutting through our property. But the bank required a lot of clay to hold that water up that high. I wanted to possibly purchase a Kubota excavator as well but cannot justify at this time not having a business to use it as well despite uses in our 60 acres of hilly woods. We live in northern Indiana having a lot of lakes in our county. So I will have to rent a Kubota to reach out a little further and do a smoother job. Cat tails have been a problem that got so bad about 20 years ago that I had to siphon the pond down 3/4ths and have a drag line dip out the cat tails and much. This resulted in 50 some dump truck loads to the woods filling ravines. That took care of the cat tails pulling out any strays by hand. Well this year for the first time a new species of a 3 to 4' plant started to take hold in too many to pull that I have not identified or seen before for all these years. Not cat tails or reeds. So that is what got me to dig all of them out up onto the bank edges with any cat tails. Then use clam shell bucket to grab excess and relocate. Did not want to go with the spray route along with rebuilding edge. I also have trying to identify the clay types as well. So what you are going through is helpful to me. My son lives northwest of Indy out in the country and drainage is a problem there being flat. So thanks for taking the effort to share what you are learning. So you first on Neil selling you your U48-5 video. I hope to learn more what to do with mine. Thanks again.
Welcome!
And in the process you get to play with life sized Tonka toys! 😉
Seriously, the opportunity to work with and demonstrate the capabilities and limitations of the various machines makes for interesting and valuable content in my opinion.
Hello Tim. Thank you for the detailed and clearly expressed explanation of the history of your water run-off challenges, the purpose of some of the work you have done in the past, and the eventual goal.
You are making very good use of the mini-ex. It will be a useful addition to your stable of tools.
I enjoy the episodes featuring a gang of friends using a column of tractors working to move dirt like an army of ants.
You need a bund around part of your house in case of a massive flood Tim, just as back up.
I love the idea of having steep banks to limit vegetation growth on the perimeter. Just a thought, if you’re planning to stock it with fish…you’ll need to create some habitat for them :) I’m sure you have an extension agent that can help!
Any place I am building a berm or clay wall to hold water I dig a trench-keyway under the berm as deep as the pond is going to be.This ensures no sand seams to perc away your pond when its full. I build a lot of ponds for permaculture projects.
Sounds like you should do a consulting collaboration with Letsdig18. :)
Thanks for the videos.
Just wondering why the water from the road isn’t routed along the road in a new ditch or culvert in front of your property to the next property (even if you have to run it toward the house along the side of your property to the existing exit point.
Elevation. We are the lowest point.
I spent the last 10 days or so working on parking lot barriers in the direct sun and NE Texas heat and humidity. I so wish we could swap jobs: would love to be in an A/C cab moving muck
I love ponds, but for me and this case i would have just filled it in and planted grass 😂
So much good information. You make following the big dig easy to do. I'm sure for all your work it will turn out in great shape. Do you happen to know the age of the pond?
Not exactly. Thinking 2000-2005 dig date.
Hi Tim, you might check into bentonite clay to help seal your pond.
I'm curious, have you thought about planting a crop that loves lots of water or wheeping willow trees?
On an unrelated note to this video, whats the status on the 3pt chipper? I've been looking forward to that video, cant wait to hear your findings on what brand and size you went with.
First week of sept.
Dirt Perfect needs to make a road trip.😁
Tim, Have you considered a pond liner? My neighbor had a lot of the same issues as you are having. He installed a pond liner and no more problems.
yea, best bet is to start in middle and bail towards you lawn then do move and bail it to your lawn and keep doing it till its out of pond and you can use your tractors to move it away
Im sure you know the Letsdig18 channel. He use to do a lot of dredging jobs working for this uncle. They did exactly what you are doing. Go lay it back as far as you can reach then lay it back again and again. It's not fast, it's not sexy but it gets the job done. It's cosy effective. It just takes time.
I am curious if a dry well system would work in your area!
You should consider digging a water pit. beside the pond so any water accumulates outside the dig site. Also, what happened to Johnny X?
The blue clay is called glayed soil it is essentially the clay that has been exposed to water for a long time with no oxygen. You want the most clay in the soil. Put samples ( about 1.5 cups) in clear quart jars and mostly fill it with water. Shake it up and let it settle the rocks will be on bottom, then a sand layer, then clay and finally silt. The silt may not settle out very quickly. It may take a couple of hou 26:52 rs for the clay to settle. Leaving it in the sun will speed it up. You want to pick the soils with the most clay. Sand and silt are bad. The nice thing is the layers are usually pretty obvious and you can easily compare the samples with each other.
I think I would call Dirt Perfect for a planning video. He amazes me with how he knows how to make a great pond. But it does sound like you have a good plan. You need a big soil compaction equipment. Blessings
Tim, What level is the WATER TABLE?
Varies throughout the year of course. Anyway, we have hit it.
Had you considered 'Ag Drainage Tile' (lowering the field water Table) for the property and directing it to a deeper ditch?
"What's your Goal?" Sounds like a typical IT Architect
The deeper the pond and the steeper the sides will give less trouble with weeds growing in your pond.
Should we check out some dozers at the next equipment auction?
A DRAG LINE CRANE WOULD HELP
You should call Dirt Perfect and do a collaboration video on this.
Tim winter is coming
Really?
Tim
I don't think many know the engineering that goes into this type of thing. Maybe engineering is the wrong term, maybe knowledge of soils and excavating would be a better term.
The digging of the pond may help in the water problems in some areas, as what comes out can increase the elevation of the lower spots and direct the excess water in the yard in the proper direction. I watch videos from Mike- Dirt Perfect when he has pond projects, and it amazes me the amount of thought and knowledge that has to go into these projects.
It is commonly thought if you dig a hole it will fill with water, that is true, but it has to have water to fill it, and more importantly, has to have a way for the excess to drain off at a certain level. Unless you have a constant supply of water(stream) running into it, I doubt it will stay full 100% of the time, as you will lose some to evaporation.
I will say, you have a very sizable job on your hands, and I must applaud your persistence to do it right. I just wish I lived closer than 2000 miles away, when you need help, as most of the time I am bored out of my tree trying to find something to do. LOL
Letsdig 18 or dirt perfect were to haul there new to them draglines over that video would be a hit. Maybe you need tojoin them and find yourself a old dragline somewhere.
Tim, who did you talk to about “Engineering” the Pond? I’m in the process of Digging a Duckweed 🦆 Pond myself in My Own Property. . . Any help would be GREATLY APPRECIATED! 👍🏽
Just a different time.
As a small kid all that mud would have been fun.
Now it is a gooey mess.
A mater of perspective. 😉
Hey tim did you find Neils easter egg lol
When they start building houses in the field where you are sending the water are they going to have issue with you? Are you assuming they will put in extensive concrete drainage pipes that will resolve the issue?
They MUST accept the water from me…legally…so no, I am not overly concerned.
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We use blue clay for our horseshoe pits. Do you guys use it also
I think you saw (in this video) the ONLY time we’ve ever thrown horseshoes in our pits. We will remove them sometime.
Tim I know you are also doing this for the content aspect so it’s taking a while……. Just bite the bullet and get the “farmer expert” or one of his farmer buddies to bring over their D8 CAT Dozer and just give this pond project the 3-5 day knock out punch and be done with it….. as it won’t be long before you won’t be able to work in the pond due to winter weather at the rate you are moving currently.
On a side note, you have got to have found some arrowheads!?
Nope.