"Paine was born in England and had a deep seated hatred of the monarchy and the aristocracy of Britain" . Just like me. England had it's own revolution in the 1640's and actually cut off the head of a king but then somehow blew it. Tom Paine where are you now when we need you more than ever. A great four minute potted history my friend...well done.
It put a fina; stop to absolute monarchy. This is the reason why France had its revolution and not Britain. Even before Cromwell Britain's monarchy had less power than others.
"“Out of a collected fund from landowners, “there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance,. . . to every person, rich or poor.”" -- Thomas Paine, 1796 The only one now working in America for Universal Basic Income is Andrew Yang.
I'm here because of school. Question 1: Is Thomas Paine considered a founding father? If not then why? Question 2: Was Paine appointed to any government positions?
Tom Paine’s view on Christianity was not ‘kosher’. He was reputed to have once said his ‘mind is his religion’. Some Founding Fathers frowned on him because of his patently unorthodox beliefs. Long live the memory of Tom Paine
Great questions! 1. I think Americans have different interpretations and opinions on who all should be considered a "founding father" of America. Most agree Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Franklin fall into that category. But I would also state that George Mason, John Hancock, John Dickenson, and yes...Thomas Paine should also be considered so. Differing views still remain on those, though. 2. To my limited knowledge, I do not believe he was. His main role was the editor of the Pennsylvania Magazine. So this would be like a major news pundit on one of the major news networks that give their opinions on evening segments. Those are rarely elected or appointed by government officials. Paine went to France after the war to contribute to the French Revolution. He was jailed there, came back to America, then died shortly thereafter. This is all according to my knowledge and views. I'm not an expert, just an 8th Grade U.S. history teacher. I could be wrong on some of these facts, so please check me on it!
@alister3733 You didn't even answer the question to why Thomas Paine should be considered a founding father. He definetly support the cause in the United States, and a writer of pamphlets that endorsed brighter spirits during the war, but to say he was a Founding Father is a stretch that is begging the question "what qualifies as a founding father?". He wasn't a general or a leader in any military capacity. Nor was he a politician or signer of the founding documents. What I previously said he wasn't is what all the other Founding Fathers were - High ranking generals, statesmen and signers/written contributors to the founding documents. So perhaps you can clarify the question that was never answered - In what way is Thomas Paine a founding father?
Let's not forget that Thomas Paine did in fact serve in the Revolutionary Way as well as finance it through all sales of Common Sense and the American Crises. Also Thomas Jefferson was under Thomas Paine's influence both with the writing of the Declaration of Independence and the Louisiana Purchase.
"Let's not forget that Thomas Paine did in fact serve in the Revolutionary Way" - As a clerk under Nathanial Greene. Not as your typical Militiaman or Regular. "as well as finance it through all sales of Common Sense" - You should know Thomas Paine made little profit in his pamphlets because he wanted them to be easily produced and accessible all across the land. You'll have to be specific in how he financed the Revolutionary War. "Also Thomas Jefferson was under Thomas Paine's influence both with the writing of the Declaration of Independence and the Louisiana Purchase" - Alright this is getting into pro-Paine fanatic propaganda. There's no proof to the second claim, and what can be said in the first claim is that it's conjectural in the least sense, and minimal in the second sense.
Thomas Paine was the only leading Founder of the United States who served in the military (as a personal assistant to General Nathanael Greene) and the government during the Revolution! He is the true Author of the American Declaration of Independence and not Thomas Jefferson as proven by computer linguistic analysis carried out by the University of Aberdeen U.K., his own deathbed confession as such and also a recent note discovered by John Adams. Both John Adams and Thomas Jefferson made a copy of the American declaration of Independence which are now at the Massachusetts Historical Society. John Adams: "A beginning perhaps- Original with Jefferson- Copied from original with T.P.'s Permission."
Did Paine write the Crisis papers while in the army? Maybe he did write them on the head of a drum by campfire light. Or is there evidence that this is “patently false”?
Thomas Paine served our purpose for a very short time - he was virulent anarchist - whom the French (Robespierre & his pals) kicked out for being too radical. 🤔😉😎
Paine went to France and was invited to be on their national parliament. The parliament voted on whether to execute the King. Paine voted against executing the King because he'd always thought that the aristocracy should be deported, not executed. However, Paine did not speak a single word of French and found it very hard to get his thoughts across. He himself was almost executed, but because of several lucky events, he was released and sent back to America. In the US, he lived in poverty and only 6 people attended his funeral.
Thomas Paine served as an adjunct to General Nathanael Greene during the Revolution. He also wrote "Common Sense' and "The American Crisis" that served to rally the troops in their darkest hour. He was imprisoned by Robespierre and his cohorts for defending King Louis XVI from death not for being too radical, and almost was Guilloteined himself!
He voted not to kill the king “Kill the office, not the man.” I guess you could say he was too radical for them. It’s sad that his ideas are still to radical for a lot of people.
Teddy Roosevelt said Tom Paine was a “…filthy little atheist.” Patently false. He was tall for the time he lived at 5’-10”. He was fastidiously clean and did believe in one universal God, though not in any established religion. 'To do good is my religion,' says Paine.
"A great American atheist patriot!" - Imagine having your name gain recognition again only to be confused as an Atheist by morons who are absolutely illiterate in history.
Wrong. Paine was a humanitarian at heart but tended toward certain societal provisions that sound like socialism. But don't get it twisted, he was madly against unchecked government power. Period. And socialism is nothing if not unabated government power.
He's the first Ameirican, the first snowflake of the snowball that makes us all Americans today. ..... ......all right, all right, .... Tolstoy I ain't
What this misses out is that while writing these pamphlets he did not fight. He lived very well off of them because they were not free. When he went to France, it was his idea in his pamphlets, to get rid of the aristocrats completely, not just to throw them out of France. In this way he was indirectly responsible for the death of thousands. Including children who were also sent to the guillotine. In the end He was imprisoned by the French for his crimes. If he came back to England he would have been hailed as a traitor. It was the Americans who eventually arranged for him to be released and to live in America. This man lived in a big fancy house in America. With servants. It’s still there. At his funeral there were only 9 people. He was not hailed as some kind of hero. He didn’t like royalty etc having wealth, power, but had it himself.
Vince Everett this is a total lie. Anybody with a cursory knowledge of Paine and how the Priestly class demonized him for daring to set people free knows better. “Kill the office, not the man.” He said of the execution of the king. Therefore he was sent to the French prison and slated to be executed.
Dingus. Wrong! Yes, of course he wanted to rid society of aristocrats because he understood the incompetency and immorality of hereditary rulership. Where do you come off claiming somehow this led to the death of thousands? Blasphemy! Death is what he was putting a stop to. And he wasn't imprisoned for his crimes... he committed no crimes Beavis. He was imprisoned for not being radical and vengeful like the French who wanted to and eventually did murder their king. His house was quaint and simple, not big. He never had servants. And he was deemed a pariah you screwball, not a hero. I can't believe your deranged comment. Get your facts straight or please never comment anywhere again.
"Paine was born in England and had a deep seated hatred of the monarchy and the aristocracy of Britain" . Just like me. England had it's own revolution in the 1640's and actually cut off the head of a king but then somehow blew it. Tom Paine where are you now when we need you more than ever. A great four minute potted history my friend...well done.
Bob Stevens we can all be Tom Paine it’s not something special it’s just takes courage
We have Tommy Robinson ... he's the Thomas Paine of the 21st century and they jailed him!!
It put a fina; stop to absolute monarchy. This is the reason why France had its revolution and not Britain. Even before Cromwell Britain's monarchy had less power than others.
Bob Stevens, a brother whom I’ve never met. 🤝
Thank you; information provided thoroughly and efficiently.
It breaks my heart how often I come across fellow Americans who know nothing of Thomas Paine .
Many are lazy, stupid or indoctrinated in postmodernism and cultural Marxism in public schools and universities.
espada9 Paine was definitely not a Capitalist.
@@espada9 Thomas Paine was Americas first leftist....
Bravo! Another excellent video, thank you!
"“Out of a collected fund from landowners, “there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance,. . . to every person, rich or poor.”"
-- Thomas Paine, 1796
The only one now working in America for Universal Basic Income is Andrew Yang.
trickle up poverty at its finest chap---why work if others will for you---incentives stagnation
I'm here because of school. Question 1: Is Thomas Paine considered a founding father? If not then why? Question 2: Was Paine appointed to any government positions?
Tom Paine’s view on Christianity was not ‘kosher’. He was reputed to have once said his ‘mind is his religion’. Some Founding Fathers frowned on him because of his patently unorthodox beliefs.
Long live the memory of Tom Paine
Great questions! 1. I think Americans have different interpretations and opinions on who all should be considered a "founding father" of America. Most agree Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Franklin fall into that category. But I would also state that George Mason, John Hancock, John Dickenson, and yes...Thomas Paine should also be considered so. Differing views still remain on those, though.
2. To my limited knowledge, I do not believe he was. His main role was the editor of the Pennsylvania Magazine. So this would be like a major news pundit on one of the major news networks that give their opinions on evening segments. Those are rarely elected or appointed by government officials. Paine went to France after the war to contribute to the French Revolution. He was jailed there, came back to America, then died shortly thereafter.
This is all according to my knowledge and views. I'm not an expert, just an 8th Grade U.S. history teacher. I could be wrong on some of these facts, so please check me on it!
@@willmcalister3733 thank you!
@@Mikeyvellii My pleasure. 👍
@alister3733 You didn't even answer the question to why Thomas Paine should be considered a founding father. He definetly support the cause in the United States, and a writer of pamphlets that endorsed brighter spirits during the war, but to say he was a Founding Father is a stretch that is begging the question "what qualifies as a founding father?". He wasn't a general or a leader in any military capacity. Nor was he a politician or signer of the founding documents. What I previously said he wasn't is what all the other Founding Fathers were - High ranking generals, statesmen and signers/written contributors to the founding documents.
So perhaps you can clarify the question that was never answered - In what way is Thomas Paine a founding father?
What is the song that the flute plays in the beginning
Let's not forget that Thomas Paine did in fact serve in the Revolutionary Way as well as finance it through all sales of Common Sense and the American Crises. Also Thomas Jefferson was under Thomas Paine's influence both with the writing of the Declaration of Independence and the Louisiana Purchase.
"Let's not forget that Thomas Paine did in fact serve in the Revolutionary Way" - As a clerk under Nathanial Greene. Not as your typical Militiaman or Regular.
"as well as finance it through all sales of Common Sense" - You should know Thomas Paine made little profit in his pamphlets because he wanted them to be easily produced and accessible all across the land. You'll have to be specific in how he financed the Revolutionary War.
"Also Thomas Jefferson was under Thomas Paine's influence both with the writing of the Declaration of Independence and the Louisiana Purchase" - Alright this is getting into pro-Paine fanatic propaganda. There's no proof to the second claim, and what can be said in the first claim is that it's conjectural in the least sense, and minimal in the second sense.
Great video, thanks.
Great work! Excellent video and content!
Thomas Paine was the only leading Founder of the United States who served in the military (as a personal assistant to General Nathanael Greene) and the government during the Revolution! He is the true Author of the American Declaration of Independence and not Thomas Jefferson as proven by computer linguistic analysis carried out by the University of Aberdeen U.K., his own deathbed confession as such and also a recent note discovered by John Adams. Both John Adams and Thomas Jefferson made a copy of the American declaration of Independence which are now at the Massachusetts Historical Society. John Adams: "A beginning perhaps- Original with Jefferson- Copied from original with T.P.'s Permission."
Daniel Freedman thank you so much for this information. In my opinion, it sure seems to align with the spirit of Paine and what is known about him.
I recently found threw DNA ancestry that I'm a direct dependent of Charles Payne.
Couldn’t he just have been using the drum head as a table? That makes plenty of sense.
Jake Krajewski And use the campfire as light. They didn’t seem to give us evidence that he didn’t or where he did write them.
Did Paine write the Crisis papers while in the army? Maybe he did write them on the head of a drum by campfire light. Or is there evidence that this is “patently false”?
Its actually 3:50 minuets
Here cuz of online school :p
yo same I have to do a google doc with questions about it
Thomas Paine served our purpose for a very short time - he was virulent anarchist - whom the French (Robespierre & his pals) kicked out for being too radical.
🤔😉😎
It's my understanding that the French were upset with Paine because he wasn't enough on board with the reign of terror.
Paine went to France and was invited to be on their national parliament.
The parliament voted on whether to execute the King. Paine voted against executing the King because he'd always thought that the aristocracy should be deported, not executed. However, Paine did not speak a single word of French and found it very hard to get his thoughts across. He himself was almost executed, but because of several lucky events, he was released and sent back to America. In the US, he lived in poverty and only 6 people attended his funeral.
Thomas Paine served as an adjunct to General Nathanael Greene during the Revolution. He also wrote "Common Sense' and "The American Crisis" that served to rally the troops in their darkest hour. He was imprisoned by Robespierre and his cohorts for defending King Louis XVI from death not for being too radical, and almost was Guilloteined himself!
He voted not to kill the king “Kill the office, not the man.”
I guess you could say he was too radical for them. It’s sad that his ideas are still to radical for a lot of people.
@@jlmur54 paine was anti-God.
Therefore I give him minimal credence aside from anecdotal.
those should do more research into Thomas Paine, he was a proto socialist. amazing hero.
Teddy Roosevelt said Tom Paine was a “…filthy little atheist.” Patently false. He was tall for the time he lived at 5’-10”. He was fastidiously clean and did believe in one universal God, though not in any established religion. 'To do good is my religion,' says Paine.
A great American atheist patriot!
He was actually a deist, definitely an unbeliever but not an atheist.
"A great American atheist patriot!" - Imagine having your name gain recognition again only to be confused as an Atheist by morons who are absolutely illiterate in history.
Paine was also a socialist at heart, influenced people like Carl Marx.
Wrong. Paine was a humanitarian at heart but tended toward certain societal provisions that sound like socialism. But don't get it twisted, he was madly against unchecked government power. Period. And socialism is nothing if not unabated government power.
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Thomas Paine went to my school :)
@@benzeman6193 ok
He's the first Ameirican, the first snowflake of the snowball that makes us all Americans today.
..... ......all right, all right, .... Tolstoy I ain't
Loooonger videos please!!
What this misses out is that while writing these pamphlets he did not fight. He lived very well off of them because they were not free. When he went to France, it was his idea in his pamphlets, to get rid of the aristocrats completely, not just to throw them out of France. In this way he was indirectly responsible for the death of thousands. Including children who were also sent to the guillotine. In the end He was imprisoned by the French for his crimes. If he came back to England he would have been hailed as a traitor. It was the Americans who eventually arranged for him to be released and to live in America. This man lived in a big fancy house in America. With servants. It’s still there. At his funeral there were only 9 people. He was not hailed as some kind of hero. He didn’t like royalty etc having wealth, power, but had it himself.
That's interesting, thanks.
Vince Everett this is a total lie. Anybody with a cursory knowledge of Paine and how the Priestly class demonized him for daring to set people free knows better. “Kill the office, not the man.” He said of the execution of the king. Therefore he was sent to the French prison and slated to be executed.
Dingus. Wrong! Yes, of course he wanted to rid society of aristocrats because he understood the incompetency and immorality of hereditary rulership. Where do you come off claiming somehow this led to the death of thousands? Blasphemy! Death is what he was putting a stop to. And he wasn't imprisoned for his crimes... he committed no crimes Beavis. He was imprisoned for not being radical and vengeful like the French who wanted to and eventually did murder their king. His house was quaint and simple, not big. He never had servants. And he was deemed a pariah you screwball, not a hero. I can't believe your deranged comment. Get your facts straight or please never comment anywhere again.
Now US have their own king