MAGSWITCH Power Feeder Mount Enters the Building!!! Game Changer???
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2024
- In this video we take a look at the installation of my new Magswitch Power Feeder Mount. This is an incredible tool and is going to take my table saw and power feeder game to the next level.
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You should consider building or getting a cart about as tall as your table. You could go with a lifting cart if you really want that puppy to be going up and down every time you need it. What ever you do, save your back.
Saving your back is the way to go. A simple cart with wheels. Agree
Scissors lift cart if the shaper is a different height.
I totally agree with this gentleman. Build a simple cart the same height as your saw and just slide it off and on. You're going to bust a goober straining like that. Not in use, store it along the wall or in a hole somewhere. If you're convinced that is your "go to" location on the saw, how about tapping a couple of bolt holes on the outside edge just for that little extra "hold"??
Yup. Your discs will thank you. That lift is brutal.
just drive it onto your cart.
Spencer Lewis🤔the most interesting carpenter in the world..20ft slat wall no problem,stair jig, 20pc door jig no problem..20ft beams solo haha only he can do that..setting up a DeWalt Chopsaw to perfection,wish you could..and move a 150lb power feeder from bench to flood with his pinky🤷🏻♂️ most interesting carpenter in the world 🌎..thankfully he shares his knowledge
Floor duh
A folding engine hoist and a strong cart with wheels will go a long way on saving your back. The folding engine hoist will save floor space when not in use. Good luck Spencer. 👍🏻
Yeah, Harbor Freight sells them. That's one thing HF is good for.
work smarter/safer not harder
Right on!
Depends. If the legs aren't too long. Because they won't fit under the table saw. And since they're the reason of the stability of an engine hoist it could be a problem. Depending on the weight and balance with the feeder on.
We have two Delta saws bolted together. The one on the right bought cheap with no motor but it serves as the table extension for the fence and mount for the bolted on power feeder. It's name is Sawzilla.
The harbor freight hydraulic cart would be great for mobilizing that feeder head. You can easily adjust the cart height with the foot pedal
I got this cart for putting my planer on and off my table. Price was great for what I use it for (only other HF tool I have is the blast cabinet)
I would build a rolling cart so as to not have to lift from the floor. Looks like a great addition
Panel saw would be nice if you have the space. It's nice to not have to move the material just the saw.
Panel saw was single best equipment I added to my shop.
Great idea Spence, but in the long run, you can mess up your back and you only have one of those. I would definitely get some kind of a lift cart or use the shaper to move it, like you did the last time. Great video like always.
Spencer, you need something like an engine hoist to lift it on and off the table - save the back. Thanks for all the content. Love what you are doing.
That’s a nice shop improvement. I agree with most commenters with regard to building a ‘wheeled’ cart. I think I’d also consider getting an extra mount and leaving one on your shaper. They’re cast iron, if it gets dropped, they always seem to crack.
Finally congratulations on the wheels for your trash cans and the drywall cart(s). Save your back!
You should make a strong cart that you can wheel over, slide it on, and roll it to an out-of-the-way place. Would save your back not having to drop to, and lift from, the floor.
With the way you have it set up just use a dedicated cart that is at table saw height. You would never have to actually pick it up again. The swing ability of that power feed unit would alow you to swing it over the cart then rise or lower to maneuver it to which ever piece of equipment you are gonna use it on!
Hey Spencer you might want to consider mounting a small winch on the ceiling to assist is lifting the feeder onto the table saw.
Yea man small overhead crane or winch would be perfect.
Have you seen the height of his ceilings? A folding engine hoist would be a perfect solution to his current dilemma. And he could use it for many other purposes.
It's guys like you, Spencer, going down the rabbit warren to find solutions for problems the rest of us didn't realise we have, isn't just entertaining, it also gives us avenues to explore for solutions to ours. F! I'd love to get a MagSwitch just to play with it!
When I saw your last video I mentioned that you should consider the magswitch base. Well now you mention a smaller power feed, well I can tell you that you definitely won’t be disappointed with the smaller powermatic I have Both and the smaller one is more powerful than most competitors larger models and much easier to handle! Been using power feeds for 40 years! The easier it is to handle the more likely you will use it!
You could roll your shaper over and just rotate the mag base over and magnet it onto the shaper. Would be great if the mag base would fit and work on the shaper without having to screw or back down.
Immediately has me remembering using a festool track saw the first few times without using the clamps.
Happy new year to you and your family mister lewis
I love the shop update videos! I always learn a better process of doing work. Thanks!
That said, when I see you straining a bit to lift something we all KNOW is heavy, I think of myself straining to lift my miter saw wings into my truck .... which YOU lifted into your van's upper perch in an earlier video like they were made of cardboard!😂
Great idea. Next, make a little cart the same height of the saw, so you don't have to pick the feeder up and can move it easily between machines. Felder uses this method for deploying and removing the mortising attachment for their multi-function machines.
You can rotate the head around so you could use it on the other side of the fence which is how I think you will end up. I can't imagine how you have it now working out very well, I've never set my feed up on the material off-cut side, you will either have to have the feeder way past the blade or before it or else the material between the blade on the fence will be left loose and very prone to kickback. Or is there enough room under the feeder to have the wheels extended past the blade, but even if so it will very much limit the width of material you can run? Also, I would have a dedicated rolling table for the feeder when not in use.
The reach of the arm on the other side probably won't work for most jobs on the table saw
I don't understand why? Ideally (always?) you want the feeder wheels between the blade and the fence not on the other side of the blade. @@TimTrOn3000
that much space in the shop i’d definitely be building a cart the same height as the table saw possibly with a steel top for storing the feeder when not in use.
Good tool to add to an even better tool. Move base as close to rollers as possible, while power is still connected, use rollers to move to the end of cut off table. Then roller onto a good heavy weight cart. Motor +wheels = no pushing and dragging wheels to cause flat spots on wheels.
Awesome video I am so glad that worked out for you.
Build, or buy a cart the same height as your able so that you can slide it off on the cart. Or better yet, use that cool winch you used to put that round piece in the ceiling a while back to lift it, and save your back. What a great addition to the shop!
I used pole shed sliding door track with trolly mounted hoist, raise up and use the track to roll off to the wall. At 60, I don't want to lift anymore.
Make yourself a bench on casters movable to carry those power rollers on and anything else that needs moving around the workshop.
I like to build carts to move the larger items around in my shop. In this case i would make sure that the cart was the same height as the table saw and then just park it in the corner when not in use.
2’x4” Rolling cart - table saw height would be useful moving that feeder.
My thoughts entirely. Slide it onto a trolley and push it out of the way
Agree with the engine hoist idea. Got to protect your back!!!
$765 for the mag mount? Crazy expensive
Hi Spencer, when it comes time for you to add another table saw to your shop it may be worth looking at a dedicated sliding table saw. I have one by felder and it is a game changer.
It's definitely on my wish list.
@@InsiderCarpentry what is the make of the sliding table that you have on the saw now? Curious minds want to know. 👍
I'd be putting a ceiling hoist right above that feeder, maybe with a short track to take it off the left side onto a wheeled cart to move elsewhere in the shop, or a track in line with the other tools (shaper) that uses it. Save yourself a broken feeder, broken foot, broken back.
We slide our power feeder from a dedicated push cart that it is stored on, it’s the same height as table saw, when done we unclamp and slide back onto cart, ours is a 3 wheeled but we removed center wheel to straddle the blade so both pieces are pushed through, hope this is helpful
I have no doubt you'll come up with the perfect solution in time.
How about block and chain from the ceiling or some way to lift it out of the way.
You should look into a Striebig panel saw. It is a large investment but will pay for itself very quickly. The accuracy is unparalleled.
Spencer have made a 3”x 3” x 1/4” pole moving base with wheels to avoid a back injury I’m new to woodworking but I’m a seasoned welder😂😂😂
Could you just drill and tap holes in the table saw to mount the feeder directly? A table on rollers would help save your back and hernias to move the feeder off of the saw table. Great video and thanks.
You need a STEEL outfeed table behind the saw which the feeder is mounted to. Think welding table. You need a bridge over the outfeed table with about 4" of clearance between the table and the bridge for material to feed through or rather under. Table will weigh about 500lbs or more, it's not going to move. Plenty of metal fab shops in IN, any good shop could make you one.
That’s awesome!
Hi Spencer maybe build a small trolley the same height as the table saw so you could just slide the feeder off the table without lifting the.
For the sake of a few minutes remove the feeder body from the horizontal bar , as you said yourself its an awkward lift and that will do the damage it could also create family planning issues. I think we will be watching a video of spencers new sliding panel saw in the not too distant future!😂
Regards Liam
Buy a 1/2hp grizzly power feeder ($950) and mount it with the magnets. Your back will thank you later on in life or next week. 1/2hp power feeds are enough push & weight for a 3hp shaper, perfect for the table saw. The 1/4hp are more like toys or for running door parts on a small shaper.
You should consider an overhead winch system for the shop.
I was thinking the same thing!
Like Curtis has on Cutting Edge Engineering yt channel. Seems like it would be good for moving lots of stuff
So entertaining!!! And informative...
It sounds like we will be getting a power feeder cart build video.
Great video. Thanks
Personally, I would invest in a scissor lift with a metal platform to slide that heavy sucker onto, and then it could be kept locked down with the magnets for transport. Nice idea with the magswitchs also.
If i were you, i'd look for ways to ceiling mount it. Granted, you have quite a high ceiling. Maybe consider mounting some framing material to the ceiling to give you a much lower point to then mount the feeder arm to. That way there is no stand in your way, ever. Add a couple struts to it and have it liftable up and out of the way when you need it to be, and just lower it back down after.
You def need a trolley for it! Your back will thank u for it.
Spencer, how would a purpose made wheeled trolley, the same height as the saw top, facilitate the moving of the power feed from not only the saw but the planer thicknesser?
May I suggest that you loose the co-dependency wondering what others think of your strength in lifting the device. You know what you know, not what others saw!
I would try placing the shaper near that outside corner of the table saw, with the feeder attached using the magswitches. That way you could still use the power feeder on the shaper. Then 'shift' the feeder over to the table saw, as needed.
Make a dedicated cart for it. Add a steel plate to the top so you can take the weight off the wheels (keep you from getting flat spots in the wheels).
You should build a metal top table so you can slide it off and on because as those magnets get dirty there holding power gets less
Mag switch has just got something for everything. Might get a set myself. Definitely go for the smaller feeder, that thing is way over kill for a saw.
A good example of how to make better use of the power feeder. Might be a bit of effort to get it back on the shaper though. If sheet goods are your main reason for this, getting a european style slider may be a better and safer option. Anyway - good video thanks.
id make a rolling table to put that on when removing it so you don have to lift it.
Spencer, please listen to some of the suggestions commented below and make a roll away cart. You will injury your back and regret it. Seriously, I hurt my back years ago and now I did something to my shoulder and it won't heal, I'm now limited in how much I can work. Everything takes longer and somethings I just can't do.
Why not made a quick cart to move it onto when not being used? Would prevent you from having to take it to the ground
With a steel top to anchor it down while moving it around.
Definitely going to herniate a disc doing those awkward lifts
One suggestion, get a lift cart from harbor freight to transport to and from rather than setting down to the ground and lift up. Your back will thank you.
Just saw the bottom - so many magnets. - I think that might grip well.
You might want to consider the 1/4HP feeder it's waaaay lighter. I have two of them and they are half the weight
You might also be able to just mount the magnetic base to the battery powered scissor lift cart and just use the carts up down controls to place the wheels wherever you want them…
Buddy just unclamp the feeder head with the one fastener and do the lift in two super easy steps! Maybe add a minute or two but your back will thank you!
Yeah definitely look into a lift table or a flattop rolling cart
Just a thought, maybe make a cart to slide it on
You may want to look at the Harbor Freight PITTSBURGH AUTOMOTIVE 500 lb. Capacity Hydraulic Table Cart for $250 for moving this on and off the saw table and stow it under your work space to be out of the way. It would be easy to roll it back out and use the hydraulic lift to match the height of you table saw and slide it back on to the table saw.
If I was a pro carpenter like you, I'd have two power feeders. Keep the 1HP feeder for the shaper in place and buy a 1/2" HP feeder with magnets for the table saw. If you need to move the feeder off the saw, get a rolling table same height as the table saw and just slide it off. That's what I do with my feeder but it's only 1/4HP and weighs around 80 pounds. Eventually, your going to hurt your back lifting the 1HP feeder and you'll figure that out as you approach 50 years old.
My 1/4HP Maggie feeder struggles with 8'+ long 8/4 lumber but handles 4/4 well. I'd think a 1/2HP would work fine and weigh a lot less than your 1HP feeder.
Time to make a rolling cart to slide the feed onto for storage
I’ll let my sister know you need her help to pick that up and lift it up to your table saw 😂
It's time for an overhead crane - you know spine and back injuries are the bane of our industry.
Look at getting a hydraulic lift cart and save your back. Keep up the awesome work!!!!
Just wheel the shaper over and stick it to the table of it when you want to remove it from the saw. Then wheel it back to the hole where it belongs. Nothing additional to buy or rig or a hernia mesh.
The annoying thing is I had to move my horse stall mats every time I wanted to do it. I could have made it work but what's the fun in that...
Well it looks like everyone beat me to the idea of getting a cart….my thought would be to get one of those ULINE height adjustable carts to raise and lower the feeder to the height you want
Will you be getting an additional mounting bracket for the feeder so that you can have one mounted to the magnetic base and one bolted to the shaper? I think you need to make the switch between machines and fast as possible. My guess is that four magnets will alleviate the need to buy another table saw. You may want to have a metal cart fabricated at the same height of the table saw that you can simply slide it on to and attach with the magnets - at 150 pounds that feeder is in the hernia range.
Dang $768! But it sure gives you options.
Hey Spencer. I hurt my back watching you lift that dam thing! 😳
Have you considered a floor mount pedestal? I had a look online and found several options. Could even set it up in such a way it can work both the shaper and table saw by swinging it. 🤷♂️ proly be a cheaper option and you wouldn’t have to buy another feeder down the road.
Anyway, as always thanks for the video. Shop envy still 😂
Good luck!
2 suggestions...
1, Overhead electric hoist
2, Rolling lift table.
Keep the 1 up unit but stop moving it by hand. You will eventually hurt yourself or someone else.
I guess it also interferes with above table dust collection??
If you didn't want to use the magnet mounts. Do you think you could use the sliding crosscut tables T-slots to mount the power feeder? The sliding crosscut table is not incredibly strong but maybe it would work and keep the feeder out of the way when not in use.
Wouldn't it be easier to wheel your shaper over and magnetize the base on to it to get it out of the way? No lifting required
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Take a look at Infinity cutting tools magnetic power feeder for something smaller
I got a much smaller power feeder for free when I bought a used drum sander. It might be only 1/4hp but I've never set it up. Would be nice if MagSwitch made a significantly smaller version of this product so it would be cost effective for me. Short of that, hopefully I can find the time to make a DIY version with some of the smaller mag switches.
I think there are some different options available out there. Also, I think you can use just one mag switch magnet with a small feeder if that is an option.
Another good video Spencer. I’m jealous about the power feeder 😊 and the shop space. If you decide to get another tablesaw you should consider a sliding tablesaw. Check out Dusty Lumber company or Extreme Woodworker on RUclips. Also Jason Bent on Bent’s Woodworking channel on RUclips. He just recently changed to a sliding tablesaw and has at least one RUclips video about it on his RUclips. And you have a ton more shop space than he does. My brother has a slider as well and he got with the screen and just programs in the dimension he wants and slides the work through. Looking forward to your future videos!
I've noticed even though I'm from the UK a high percentage of things you recommend on amazon are unavailable not just in the UK the USA also 🤔🤔🤔
If you're mounting the feeder on that side of the blade you'll push the material into the fence and the blade. Won't that put additional stress on the blade and the motor? I think it might be better to put the feeder in front of the blade to avoid pinching the blade. And you can switch sides, but the feeder has to stay in the same orientation or it will push the material away from the fence and run the material backwards. Unless the machine has 2 directions.
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It is easy for me to say as it is not my money but the ideal solution was to have bought a proper panel saw with a professional fence then you could have simply bought a Panhans feeder. That’s fits quickly on to the fence. .
You need a chain hoist...
I want that mounting plate that gets attached to the magnets to be slightly thicker...
I don't doubt your strength, but you really need to consider getting a small portable folding crane / engine hoist. Just imagine the lost income if you injure your back - even a slight tweak could cost you several weeks. Once your back is tweaked it can happen again and again.
Hi. Great video.
I looked for the magswitch power feeder mount on Amazon , same one in your video, but can’t find it
Get yourself a can of anti-gravity spray.😊😊
I would just get a smaller feeder for the table saw. One HP is overkill for ripping. All ya need as a small 1/4HP unit and they are actually affordable compared to 1hp units, Then you don't need to take it off your shaper.
I am also a cabinetmaker, mainly making kitchen furniture. I have never seen the use of a power feed on a table saw. I wouldn't even think of it. The biggest problem is the complete parallelism of the saw blade and the feed rollers. When I guide the material by hand, it requires a lot of attention to maintain parallelism between the guide bar and the saw blade, especially with long material. How can you set the parallel to 100 percent? Sorry for my incomplete English.
I think you better get a cart to leave it on , save the back.
Hey, Spencer, why don't you just make a card to slide your power feeder on? Then you could just roll it around where you want it in and roll it back and slide it your feeder back on to your saw.