@@johnd.3936 They wont stop the brain from moving but they will stop your brain getting out of your head. They absolutely do offer protection from big hits. It isn't a get out of jail for free card but at least provides some protection.
Two days ago, I had soft powder in the morning that froze mid afternoon. Couldn’t tell you how, but wiped out at high speeds and smashed my head, tunnel vision, ears ringing etc, don’t even want to imagine what would’ve happened if I wasn’t wearing my helmet
@@tybauer1108 glad you're OK. if you crashed that hard in a helmet may need to get a new helmet. Most helmets are good for one hard impact the the protective material is compromised.
Saved my skull from being completely cracked open from wearing a helmet this year. Fell back on 100% solid ice and helmet cracked from the impact. Might've been dead without it who knows
That sounds awful! This year after a large snowfall I went skiing and I leaned too far forward and my skis hooked. I flew 20ft, landed on my face, scorpioned and then flipped. It could’ve been a lot worse than some pulled muscles if I hadn’t been wearing a helmet
@@SoOverBored crazy how dangerous it can get in an instant. You also never know how hard solid ice is until you hit 100% ice. You can literally feel how thick the ice is on impact, pretty crazy
I did they same thing. My helmet didn't crack but I bet it kept my skull from cracking or a dozen staples across the back of my head. Guaranteed it saved me big time.
@@Kevinmac1120 ive been lucky with falling on soft slopes. i rarely push my limits anymore though. i want my knees to last lol. always a helmet on icy days though
That ski patrol needs to update their training or equipment or both. Not putting a neck brace on someone found knocked out between some trees is so irresponsible.
Thank you. People need to also learn basic first aid if they have these kinds of hobbies. "Does anyone know How to call rescue"? Never good to hear that if you're the victim. I'm amazed at how medical care and awareness has gone way down in America.
I broke my neck really badly in 2017 doing gymnastics and was told that if I had tried to sit up after the crash and if my trainers hadn't known how to handle the situation (support my spine, hold my neck straight and not let me move) I would be paralyzed from the neck down right now. I have pretty much made a full recovery thanks to my trainers and the first responders taking all the precautions and putting me on a spinal board and doing x rays even though nobody at first thought I had seriously hurt myself more than strained a muscle. ALWAYS always take spinal precautions if you find someone in a situation like this.
Had a student at high school, I was librarian, head was in a brace connected to his shoulders. Could not move his head to see something had to move his whole body. Yeah, he'd broken his neck somehow, and yes, he made a complete recovery. But man, he was a tall kid and looked like Frankenstein's monster coming down the halls! (Good guy, had a sense of humor about it.)
Just be weary when not letting people move, don't try to hold them down. You may well know, but someone might get the wrong idea from the way its worded and to to hold someone down.
if this happens to you, got to the nearest lift and tell the operator, all of we have a phone or a radio, we have direct comunication with patrollers, just let us know
Yes this,or have the number to Ski Patrol on your phone (Some mountains it on the website). As a Ski Instructor at a small hill i have never had to call ski patrol before thankfully
patrollers had special training for those situations, we must get them asap, u will waste lot of time calling 911 or waiting for a patroller to luckily pass around
@@portlandexotics4633 we were smoking on a blunt in the woods so the ski patrol wouldn’t see us. When the bud hit I was ready to shred so I went down and he said he would come right after when he finished the blunt. But then he ended up passing out and fell asleep. So that’s what you’re seeing, my homie asleep in the trees
The whole event was a shit show! I am so appalled at how this was handled from start to finish!!! Then put in the internet for “a poor college student” to get money! FFS disguising!! This needs to be removed off the internet. I would be suing if I was this guy.
This is actually very intense. Glad he was okay, discovering bodies is a lot harder to deal with, so so glad he was able to be helped and was not out on his own doing any freestyle.
Sure is. I found an older woman dead on a sand dune in the middle of a snow storm about 1pm. Just sitting up frozen on the trail mouth wide open eyes shut. And I was just thinking it was a good spot to eat my lunch on my way back to work. Thought I'd check out the waves/Beach. Wrong.
Ski patrol are morons. Usually only 1/5 has any real medical experience because it’s very easy to get pointless certifications. Dude was breathing and conscious. There’s no reason to rush moving him so quickly. The first responder starts moving him before anyone else is there. His job is to keep the person still and calm while determining the severity of their injuries. Instead he start wiggling the victim around.
@@FumblsTheSniper Yeah EMT here, after assessing ABCs the patient seemed stable from this video. No need to hurry with the extrication and transport. I cringed a little when they rolled him onto the litter with no c spine control.
@@Jh0ac I just did lifeguard certification a couple weekends back, and we were trained to move potential spinal injury victims wayyy slower than that, even in deep water!
@@donnahindall118 no most people do, every day on the mountain I probably see 2-3 people without helmets compared to hundreds with helmets. Never seen someone at the park without a helmet
@@oak8728 no it doesn’t depend on the mountain. I ride Breckenridge every weekend and always 1-2 dumbasses without helmets. Everyone I see usually wears a helmet for warmth and protection.
Impressed by the speed of intervention, but not by the way they handled him and rolled him down the slope. No neck brace, nothing. Good thing he didn't have a back injury...
Hi, wilderness first responder here: normally someone is unlikely to have a spinal injury worsened by a roll. It's crucial to get them to advanced care asap and they need to be moved in order for that to happen. They did it correctly
@@colettesantoro6233 you‘re definitely right about not moving him, because of further injuries. However you should always check if a person is breathing and if you can check their heart rate and their pupils. If they are not breathing move the person straight away, risking injuries is not your worst problem then. If they are conscious stay with them and talk to them. :) Skiing Instructor 101 😂
@@spinsterjones4987 when I google that I only get results from australia. The american red cross does not mention it. But yes as a WFR we always check 1) is the scene safe, 2) initial 2-second assessment of what happened, 3) put on PPE, 4) check for other patients, 5) begin to assess ABCDEX
Well, may have been the best option if he had a fractured spinal cord or back injuries/head injuries. People should not be lifted out of cars for this reason
@Montana Weatherby saw a work place injury accident. The man fell off a ladder about 3 stories up. Landed head first and lived. His coworkers ran over and in their panic picked him up and he died instantly. His neck was broken but aligned and when they picked him up the fracture moved severing his spinal cord.
@@lindanwfirefighter4973 Lucky to be alive. A friend of mine works as a first responder and he told me this story. Car crash scene: a dad with his daughter The impact was pretty violent, the dad was fine and he managed to make the daughter walk out of the car. As first responders arrived (my friend including) they told him that they needed to take her daughter to the hospital to make sure she was fine. Her dad repeatedly refused since "she was walking, therefore she was totally fine". Long story short, as her dad kept denying the first responders to take his daughter for further medical inspection, there was nothing that they could legally do to take her into custody, so they let both her and her dad go. In the very same moment the girl tried to fasten her seatbelt, her neck cracked and she dropped dead. That is all because her dad was being an ignorant and ignoring medics' advice She could have been alive now but stupidity won
@@s1mo True. My uncle helped a guy out of a crashed car and called an ambulance. The guy was arguing with the ambulance crew but he did finally get in the ambulance. Later my uncle rang the hospital on call to ask how the man was doing. The man had passed. His spleen was ruptured in the crash. He had no way of knowing the risks and felt he was going to be all right. Always respect the crew - they don't want to scare you but so much can go wrong.
Crazy. I just found a guy in the trees with a fully dislocated shoulder three days ago. Stayed with him for half an hour or so until ski patrol showed up. The guy had epilepsy and had a few episodes during the wait. Felt bad for him but what else you gonna do.
WEAR HELMETS EVERYONE PLEASE!! I'M A VETERAN BOARDER BUT I'VE HAD MY SHARE OF ACCIDENTS, CONCUSSIONS, TEMPORARY AMNESIA, ETC FROM HITS TO MY HEAD OVER THE YEARS WHEN I WAS YOUNG. NOW I'M 41 AND HAVE SUSPECTED CTE AMONGST OTHER SERIOUS HEALTH PROBLEMS RELATED TO MULTIPLE HEAD INJURIES FROM 20 YEAR'S AGO NOW.
CDP-choline or GPC-choline help restore brain from injuries/concussions. Not immediately, but over several months-years. I've known people using it to recover from concussions. Or hyperbaric oxygen chambers. All professional footballers/sportsmen use them.
When I broke my face at keystone the skis the ski patrol put up to warn people to go around fell down and hit me in the head. I think it's just a ski patrol thing...
@@liz9843 You DON’T, you absolute cretin. If in ANY situation you find somebody who is not responding then you ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS CHECK IF THEY ARE BREATHING. Is their airway clear? If they are not breathing then you FUCKING MOVE THEM into a position where you can start CPR. It does not matter if you’re worried they have spinal injuries because THEY ARE FUNCTIONALLY DEAD and it is on you to keep their heart beating and oxygen circulating around their body until help arrives.
Checking the pulse isn’t a priority. Most untrained people (and many trained) can’t find a pulse in the field anyway. What you need to check is: IS THE CASUALTY BREATHING? If they’re not breathing - or doing agonal breathing (pls google what that sounds like) - then you need to call for help and start CPR immediately.
Ski patroller here. I was impressed with how quickly so many patrollers arrived on the scene. Including toboggan. Many comments about no neck brace or spinal immobilization. They would have done some checks before moving him. It is now known that further spinal injury from gently moving a patient is rare/ unlikely - nothing compared to the violence of the initial impact. The patient kept trying to sit up - pehaps a serious concussion and the guy didn't know where he was or what was happening!? Asking where am I? What happened? about 20 times...
Look...the fact that the patient complained of back pain enough that they were using a backboard says something. The fact that they dumped the patient off of the backboard because they forgot to strap him down says something else. Watch the video again and tell me that these guys know what they are doing. They had a hard time figuring out how to strap him down AFTER they dumped him on the ground.
I just got my EMT license in December. I was told multiple times in training that a lot of protocols are changing to no longer requiring c-collars or backboards.
I don't think the point was to gain "credit" at all... It's just a video... In my opinion it's educational to show people what could happen... To remind folks both to make safer choices and also to be aware of your surroundings and look out for others who might be in danger!
Jesus, happy it ended the way it does. But do they really just slide them down in this cage? In Europe they get them down in a proper snowmobile. This looks hella uncomfortable and dangerous in an emergency.
Liam Neeson wife died on a Canadian ski hill in Montreal. She had a head injury, she fell hit her head and was not wearing a helmet. So please wear your helmets.
Important to note that she fell during a ski lesson on a small slope and no one even realized she had hurt herself. She was walking and talking normally and the concussion took about an hour to kick in before anyone realized how badly she was hurt. You can Google the news stories. It's actually a really strong case for wearing a helmet no matter what
That they didn't actually go down to him and see if he's dead or alive or in need of help is beyond me ..I can't understand or believe how detached they were
Crazy as it might be, interfering in any way with an unconscious person in a situation like this is actually the stupidest thing you can do. If they had rushed down and shaken him or climbed on him or anything he could have potentially been killed.
@@kathrynaguenza4508 snoring can be associated with breathing but agonal breathing sounds like snoring and if it is agonal then you have a serious problem on your hands and you dont have much time and every second counts.
@@cold758 the least you have to do is to check whether he is breathing or not. And you need to relay that to the emergency dispatcher as he is the one deciding whether to just send out the paramedics or to send out an emergency doctor as well. And for that you don't even have to touch the patient!
This was hard to watch for a paramedic. At first no first aid from the guys who found him and then the people who are trained for exactly these situations did an awful job. Compromising his health even further. I dont know where they got their education but this was really shocking to watch.
If someone has a possible neck injury you shouldn't move them. What could I do if I found someone in this situation to help without moving them? Genuinely curious.
@@j0ndav1s CPR is also a good idea but I'm not an expert to recommend it. I don't know what to do if they have broken ribs, punctured lungs, or need to be moved to start CPR.
You all need a lesson on assisting people in need of help. Start by taking off your skis and checking for vitals while another person finds medical help. Unbelievable.
Never ski or snowboard without a helmet, I know from experience, took just one severe concussion to realize its as essential as your board. Been snowboarding for 15 years.
Finally someone who knows to put the skis up as a cross above the accident site! Warns other skiers and is a non missable sign for ski patrol. Way too often people don’t know about this. Good reaction! (Ignore all those who are so clever; calling help and securing the accident scene are the most important bits; and everything additional in a situation like this with all the adrenaline is in reality hard to do right)
"I found a snowboarder passed out in the trees... and did nothing". Surely if your thing is being up on the slopes you've done at least rudimentary first aid training?
@@GH-Rav its better to have some air then no air lol if he wasnt snoring then you wouldnt know if he was getting oxygen at all. Are you going to freak out if you hear someone snoring in bed and shake them awake because there not getting "sufficent oxygen" no. The only way to know if someone is getting sufficent oxygen is via pulse ox or the color of there lips/skin.
Normal snoring is not something to worry about but this man just had a head injury. When has sustained a head injury and you can hear them snoring, traditional first aid says you're supposed to move his head or body into a position in which his airway is no longer obstructed. You shouldn't just dismiss his injury as, "He's fine since you can hear him breathing." He could end up with severe brain injury or permanently comatose. If you're saying that snoring is a good sign because that means he's alive, then yes of course it is a good thing to know that he is alive. Yes, some air is better than no air but snoring itself is not a good sign after a head injury, especially if it is loud snoring. Snoring happens when there is an obstruction to the airway, meaning that there is a chance that not enough oxygen is reaching his brain. Snoring could be a sign of imminent danger to life or quality of life. A GOOD sign would be breathing with no obstruction, which you can check by seeing seeing if his chest is rising and falling or by putting a piece of glass, like their goggles, under his nose. Breathing IS a good sign, but not snoring.
think about how many people went right by this guy. this exact thing happened to me and i busted my shoulder, it takes TWO seconds to stop and see if someone is okay, don’t be selfish people.. that could be your kid one day.
The bystander effect. One time i saw a guy fall flat on his back on a bigjump in the bottom of a slope and was knocked unconscious while i was standing in line for tickets 100-200 meters further down. We figured everyone has seen this and the employes of the resort will take care of it. But after like a minute with no one doing anything i pushed my way trough the line and asked the girl behind the counter if they where going to do something? Then she radioed someone and they sent a snowmobile up to check him out (still unconscious laying on the landing).
Good for them for not moving him. The only thing I would be worried about is the trees and force of gravity compressing his chest and causing him to suffocate.
I'm an emergency personal, and I get it you're scared to help cause you think you can't do anything, but when someone is making slurred breathing noices, how hard was it to take his boots off, not hard at all doing nothing made this video difficult to watch , so please if this happens to anyone else, you rock up to an incident like this.... please treat it as if it's someone you know a loved one maybe, help them out, or at least talk to them.... ask them questions
@@timothyfoleyjr2796 i fell pretty bad once and knocked my head hard.. ended up with a ruptured spleen as well.. but i actually got up and snowboarded down to the bottom. i told my friends i wanted to just take a break. i called my friends multiple times wondering where they were. luckily, one of them knew something was wrong with me and raced back down to the bottom ( they had gone back up lift, leaving my in ski lodge).. and he went and got ski patrol. he doesn't realize he probably saved my life!
@@timothyfoleyjr2796 my point, i take safety seriously when skiing. one of those guys should have started immediatly skiing towards the nearest lift to inform ski patrol. if you super paranoid you could even invest in a good walkie talkie and ask ski patrol what a good channel is if they are in an emergency.. some mountains have this set up
LOL, this made me laugh. Seriously though, I've never seen an accident scene where nobody approaches the person down to even see if they're breathing. So bizarre.
My sister was skiing with someone that went full speed into a tree with a helmet a few months ago. He is still recovering and learning to talk apparently. But without the helmet he would have been dead.
@@stevenramirez1179 A back brace can save your life. I know two people who have broken their backs while skiing, one i still inna wheel chair 20 years later. All sensible skiers wear a back brace.
After living in breck for the last 5 years, I've heard about deaths by trees on resorts every year, we just lost an elderly man last week to a tree collision 😥
People in denial..they taking life for a granted and think that nothing and never will happen to them..and then next thing you know..accident..instant trauma..they are dead and no longer around us..😣😪
No kidding - I woke up hugging a tree there once, lost the last few seconds of how I got there. I swear the trees there are just a few inches too close together! and for sure: wear a helmet!
Whoa! That was scary! From Hawaii!? Did you find out if he’s okay or what his injuries were? Hope you’re doing well! Thanks for stopping and helping this poor kid!
I remember some guy in the 70's who went skiing for the first time with friends. They told him it was easy just point down hill and go straight. Poor guy was NOT taught how to turn, stop or even fall. He hit a tree head on at some ungodly speed and was killed instantly.
Not hating because its tough to kniw without being there but not moving someone is only something you worry sbout once pulse is verified and airway ensured open. People should all learn basic first aid.
This demonstrates how crucial it is for 1st aid training, the guy was on the ground way too long. Knowing what to do in circumstances like this is paramount, next time it could be your kids, spouse or friend.
He didn't witness it so it's probably best he didn't try helping him incase he caused anything worse. If he already called ski patrol to help then it's no far from the best he could have done for the circumstances
@@BCcherokee No anything is better than doing nothing. Everyone should know first aid, and everyone should assist someone in need. In this case it was a good decision to wait for the ski patrol because he was breathing, ski patrol was close by, and moving him could worsen any possible neck and back injury (but seeing how badly the ski patrol did with no neck brace and handling him like that it would no have made a difference). But if someone is not breathing, or has some serious bleeding going on you start first aid no matter if you are worried about neck and back injury's. Its a reason why it is called FIRST aid.
@@titter3648 Anything is NOT better than nothing, unless you are trained. He saw that he was breathing and got ski patrol there. I wouldn’t want some random person saying, um, let’s do just do anything. It’s not that easy to maneuver in ski boots on the side of a steep hill. I would have easily slid right into him if I tried to move too fast.
Same thing happened to me some years ago, skiing at Snoqualmie, WA.: I came across a 'boarder passed out in the trees, crumpled in fetal form. With a bota bag beside him. So in other words, a typical snowboarder, drunk (and high), catching some air Passed out. So I did what anyone would do- I drank what was left (Jack Daniels), pissed on his board, and left him be.
S/o the homies for keeping the eyes peeled... Who knows how long he could've been there if they didn't see him. Were all family on the mountain. Ill definitely be on the lookout more after this one.💯
Been skiing for 57 years now and have never worn a helmet. Just a nasty cut to the chin and a concussion are the extent of my injuries to the head. I do have to say that I feel under-"dressed" when I look around and I am the only one in a hat. I think with the technology improvements speeds have increased and the consequences of crash are greater now. Back in the day, powder skiing was like slow motion. Not today. I do "plan" my turns on hard pack so that a high speed fall will not put me in the trees. But alas I will probably get a helmet this year and join the herd.
Where I used to live, all the skateboarders in the city would go on a monthly ride around the city (hundreds, if not thousands of boarders). It was like a parade. Every single one of them would be wearing a helmet. I asked a kid about it once, and was told that it was a memorial ride, in honor of their fallen friend, who died when he fell off his board without a helmet, and they were spreading awareness that helmets were not lame, they save lives. All the kids at the skate park wore helmets after his death, to show that he didn't die for nothing. I always thought it was so cool. Being prepared can save your life. What's cooler than getting up and walking away from a potentially life-threatening situation? I hope you got the helmet. :)
I got a nasty concussion years ago falling off my large horse galloping. Long story short…….I got a “football Concussion”, don’t remember a few hours, get lectured by a doctor, puked my guts out, and had weird sleeping spells from noon to 3pm for a week. I was lucky. Helmets are cool. Hospital stays and bed pans are not.
Exactly my thoughts as to the mystery to why standbyers are the most useless things in critical situations. It’s like they think there is some rules from the government that prevents them from touching someone injured or some shyt. Fkn morons
@@mrultima You have this kind of laws in some countries. If you are helping someone but he dies in your hand, you will be responsible and will have to face judges. And it's exactly like a moto or car crash, it's way better to wait for pros, because if you move a person, you can just increase the damage by making a single wrong move. The only thing you have to do is checking breath to be honest. (English isn't my first language, but I think you have the idea ! : )
The whole event was a shit show! I am so appalled at how this was handled from start to finish!!! Then put in the internet for “a poor college student” to get money! FFS disguising!! This needs to be removed off the internet. I would be suing if I was this guy.
When I was 19 on christmas day I saw a car in the ditch next to an icy road. There were plenty of cars going past but I stopped just to check. A girl was still in the car and couldn't get the door open because the snow was so high in the ditch. She was clearly shocked because I asked her if she was okay and gestured to roll her window down while I was scooping snow away. All the while cars were just passing... she didn't roll down the window and I got worried if she had hit her head or something. So we finally got the door open and i asked her if she was alright again and stuff and she was so thankful and clearly wasn't in a state to think straight. But she said she wasn't hurt and the airbags hadn't been activated either. So we got her out of the car I asked her what her name was and all that and if she was a member of the ADAC. She wasn't, so I called them to come and only THEN when I was standing on the side of the road on my phone suddenly a few cars slowed down and asked if we were okay and stuff and I was just really annoyed by then. People really don't know what to do in these situations and they just rather look away. So that these guys stopped at all and by that made others notice the situation is at least something I guess. Anyways she called her dad and the towtruck came and she was much better by then so I felt comfortable to leave her with the tow truck person because I had to go to work another 2 hours away. It's mandatory to learn basic first aid here to get your license but I think we should make it mandatory to refresh the skills at least every 5 years (2 years would be better)...
I went skiing this last weekend, and I fell and hit me head really hard. I had a helmet on, so I only suffer a concussion. If I didn’t have it, who knows
BRO NICE SAVE! i literally dealt with this exact scenario last week. one thing i have noticed though compared to 10 years ago, EVEYONE wears helmets now.
Great hazard marking with the skis and poles. I see a bunch of comments citing the lack of basic first aid, but you did good. Communicated and minimized further injury. You shouldn't do anything else unless you are trained. There are professional all over the ski hill to do that.
My aunt is 50+ and she still goes out and snowboards. She tells me stories about being stuck under a tree, and thinking for sure she'd be dead. Helmet or not, it can happen to anyone.
Thank you for your vigilance and for taking the time to actually check on this guy, it's amazing how often I see someone injured on the hill and most of the time people just ski past.. if you see someone hurt, or off in the trees, please take the time to check on them and make sure they're OK..
If you don’t wear a helmet during any activity where you go faster than walking speed, that’s just natural selection. He probably had a concussion. Hopefully, not a bad TBI.
cmdmd Do you guys realize that we skied for years and only wore a helmet when we race “Downhill”. I’m not saying that was smart, but all we wore were knitted ski caps. We were just people who enjoyed the great outdoors. What can I say: We were from California.
Snowboarded for years without a helmet never knocked myself or hurt my head but I do agree if you are going off jumps or half pipe you its best to wear a helmet.
I’ll never understand what’s with people and safety. I ride and wear a helmet. In fact, on any sport or activity on which I have the chance of falling, I’ll wear a helmet. Doesn’t take away anything. Exposing oneself is silly and unnecessary
Good job putting skis up when I busted my knee on a jump several people almost hit me being I couldn't move. Appreciate people who pay attention and help those in need. Again Good Job and great footage.
Standing there, watching and watching, talking and talking... you or one of the others could at least get near to him quicker and check quicker if he's breathing and talk to him. I understand being anxious in such a situation and at least you called for help but there's no value in posting this vid, nothing good to learn here. AND you don't even know if the guy dislike that you show this.
Agreed man, sorry but this should be recognized as what not to do. don't know why you waited till he regained consciousness to start giving a shit and doing something?
You'd be surprised how many people have no clue how to react in a emergency situation. Sometimes the best thing you can do is nothing if you don't know what to do.
Wow that’s great you found him. I wonder how many others are stuck in the snow injured 🤕 & never found. This is giving me anxiety just watching. Where is the ski 🎿 patrol EMT helper men? I hope 🤞Gus is okay.
also........ if they are suspecting a spinal or neck injury (hence the back board) where is the neck collar???? I broke my neck a few years back. Neck collar for 12 weeks!! :/
You did everything right. I would have not touched that young man unless he was in cardiac arrest. But wow, why didn’t ski patrol put a collar on that kid is bewildering.
I lived in Breckenridge for many years. The skiing draws a lot of unskilled labor to Summit County in the winter and they work part time with minimal qualifications at the seasonal jobs like ski patrol. When they are at work their minds are thinking about the next time they get to hit the slopes on their own terms.
@@BlLL_LUMBERGHthat works for a lot of mountian jobs except for ski patrol, which generally has a emt equipment or higher certification requirements. Especially at Breckenridge since they have a full Union patrol calling them part time is hard lol. It is hard to say weather it is required or not here, there where a lot of cuts. Most recent data suggests that that collaring and back boarding can cause more harm than good. Although from what i understand ski patrol is/was on the conservative side of things.
That was frustrating to watch. At least one of those guys should have taken their skis off immediately and run down to check he was breathing. Then talk to him and reassure him help was on the way. More people should know first aid but I would have thought those steps would be common sense.
Nothing more annoying then being woke up from a nap in the trees.
@Oliver Heck You had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
@Oliver Heck have you heard of this thing called a ‘joke’
@Oliver Heck oh fuck why’s the ‘see full message’ button or whatever not showing up LOL
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@@ladder3257 lol
Helmets are cool, people.
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helmets dont provide protection from big impacts. the brain gets concussed either way. they are great for lacerations tho.
@@johnd.3936 They wont stop the brain from moving but they will stop your brain getting out of your head. They absolutely do offer protection from big hits. It isn't a get out of jail for free card but at least provides some protection.
@@johnd.3936 not wearing a helmet is what causes people to say things like “helmets don’t provide protection from big impacts”
Just wait till mom and dad get that hospital bill :) Guaranteed at least 6 grand and that is if he was in and out and no overnight.
Passed out between trees, head downhill, no helmet...headphones in.
This guy could have been a vegetable or dead.
Seriously tho. I can’t believe he’s not. Lucky guy
Or just vibing to some music
I like how you notice the small little details...
I ski in Northeast and all the places I go a helmet is REQUIRED or you don't get on a lift.
Ski patrol was there pretty fast and had lot's of help. Seemed to be a well organized ski patrol.
Helmet have saved me on so many hard falls. Still find it hard to believe that people still don't wear them.
They look less « cool » with a helmet
Two days ago, I had soft powder in the morning that froze mid afternoon. Couldn’t tell you how, but wiped out at high speeds and smashed my head, tunnel vision, ears ringing etc, don’t even want to imagine what would’ve happened if I wasn’t wearing my helmet
@@firsfnamelastname8490 heard having a brain injury is super cool looking. Even better heard dieing from a head injury is the coolest look! Lol
@@tybauer1108 glad you're OK. if you crashed that hard in a helmet may need to get a new helmet. Most helmets are good for one hard impact the the protective material is compromised.
Saved me today at bigwhite, caught nasty heel edge straight onto the back of my head, got up and rode away because of my helmet
Saved my skull from being completely cracked open from wearing a helmet this year. Fell back on 100% solid ice and helmet cracked from the impact. Might've been dead without it who knows
That sounds awful! This year after a large snowfall I went skiing and I leaned too far forward and my skis hooked. I flew 20ft, landed on my face, scorpioned and then flipped. It could’ve been a lot worse than some pulled muscles if I hadn’t been wearing a helmet
@@SoOverBored crazy how dangerous it can get in an instant. You also never know how hard solid ice is until you hit 100% ice. You can literally feel how thick the ice is on impact, pretty crazy
Stop falling on your head!
I did they same thing. My helmet didn't crack but I bet it kept my skull from cracking or a dozen staples across the back of my head. Guaranteed it saved me big time.
@@Kevinmac1120 ive been lucky with falling on soft slopes. i rarely push my limits anymore though. i want my knees to last lol. always a helmet on icy days though
That ski patrol needs to update their training or equipment or both. Not putting a neck brace on someone found knocked out between some trees is so irresponsible.
I literally yelled out loud why aren't they holding c-spine
I'm not even formally trained and my dumb ass knows to support and immobilize the head, neck and spine before trying anything....
Yeah
I know right? They didn’t stabilize his neck or spine before pulling him out. Then he said his back hurt. YIKES!
Thank you. People need to also learn basic first aid if they have these kinds of hobbies. "Does anyone know How to call rescue"? Never good to hear that if you're the victim. I'm amazed at how medical care and awareness has gone way down in America.
imagine being unconscious and your AirPods are just going ‘tHiS iS gONnA bE tHe bEsT dAy oF My liFe’
lmaoo
I wish that would happen to me
XD BRO THIS IS INE OF THE BEST COMMENTS IVE SEEN ON YT LOLLL
@@kylenkoehn1431r u ok?
broke my wrist skiing to lemon demon 8th wonder and i BEGGED my mother to take my headphones out
I broke my neck really badly in 2017 doing gymnastics and was told that if I had tried to sit up after the crash and if my trainers hadn't known how to handle the situation (support my spine, hold my neck straight and not let me move) I would be paralyzed from the neck down right now. I have pretty much made a full recovery thanks to my trainers and the first responders taking all the precautions and putting me on a spinal board and doing x rays even though nobody at first thought I had seriously hurt myself more than strained a muscle. ALWAYS always take spinal precautions if you find someone in a situation like this.
Exactly!
Had a student at high school, I was librarian, head was in a brace connected to his shoulders. Could not move his head to see something had to move his whole body. Yeah, he'd broken his neck somehow, and yes, he made a complete recovery.
But man, he was a tall kid and looked like Frankenstein's monster coming down the halls! (Good guy, had a sense of humor about it.)
That's an amazing story! Thank God they knew what they were doing!! Glad to hear you're on the mend!!
Just be weary when not letting people move, don't try to hold them down. You may well know, but someone might get the wrong idea from the way its worded and to to hold someone down.
I could be paralyzed from the neck down right now*. Almost impossible to know if it would have caused it.
if this happens to you, got to the nearest lift and tell the operator, all of we have a phone or a radio, we have direct comunication with patrollers, just let us know
Yes this,or have the number to Ski Patrol on your phone (Some mountains it on the website). As a Ski Instructor at a small hill i have never had to call ski patrol before thankfully
Or just call 911 or the resort phone they can call ski patrol
Really?! How about checking to see if he needs CPR?
@@muprock You should check his pulse but he was breathing because he was snoaring. If the patient doesn't have a pulse that is when you perform cpr
patrollers had special training for those situations, we must get them asap, u will waste lot of time calling 911 or waiting for a patroller to luckily pass around
Over 3 min. of video he is unconscious and no one checking his airway or pulse!? Not moving him is smart, but there are some fist aid priorities.
Someone took his pulse and said he was breathing but unconscious
For reals all these people were so slow to react
They probably didn’t know, they’re just passing skiers. They got ski patrol, and that’s sometimes all they know to do at the time.
The lack of basic first-aid knowledge is scary af... even if you don't know how to check ABCs, immediately go over to the guy and see if he responds.
@@Edaph1c it really is scary, thats why First aid should be taught in all schools. You never know when you might need it
"you ok bro"
Does it look like hes ok lmfao
Just taking a nap, no problem.
It's important to ask in CPR because for example drunk people can attack
He was fine. He’s a friend of mine irl. He was smokin some bud in the woods before going back down and he hadn’t smoked bud in a year
@@ieatslag5947 wait what 😂😂😂😂
@@portlandexotics4633 we were smoking on a blunt in the woods so the ski patrol wouldn’t see us. When the bud hit I was ready to shred so I went down and he said he would come right after when he finished the blunt. But then he ended up passing out and fell asleep. So that’s what you’re seeing, my homie asleep in the trees
My word. That was a long 2 minutes and 25 seconds before someone walked the 10 feet to check on the guy.
Exactly this
I know people are seriously dumb. He was probably hearing the whole time.
They'd rather just stare at him while saying "hey bro" to each other numerous times.
Breathes on unconscious guy, severs spine 😲 Call ems! 😜
A bunch of asshole. And filming the guy like he ‘s a part of the holiday. Fuck.
This ski patrol needs some retraining! This is a definite c- collar and the amount of movement they let that guy do is off the charts
Many ski patrols dont have the training or equipment thats nessesary
Why don't you go join them Mister RUclips medic man?
@@oakenmind I am a medic and he is right, idiot.
The whole event was a shit show! I am so appalled at how this was handled from start to finish!!! Then put in the internet for “a poor college student” to get money! FFS disguising!! This needs to be removed off the internet. I would be suing if I was this guy.
@@oakenmind I'm not a medic and I know he's right. Why don't you go appoint some RUclips medic men RUclips administrator.
This is actually very intense. Glad he was okay, discovering bodies is a lot harder to deal with, so so glad he was able to be helped and was not out on his own doing any freestyle.
Sure is. I found an older woman dead on a sand dune in the middle of a snow storm about 1pm. Just sitting up frozen on the trail mouth wide open eyes shut. And I was just thinking it was a good spot to eat my lunch on my way back to work. Thought I'd check out the waves/Beach. Wrong.
@@TylerMcKinney yoo is this forreal?
Jeez
@Yesso I'm a year late but yeah it's real, I was there
@@dELTA13579111315 Me too.
Props to putting your skies up and marking it. Helps a lot
Yes. Impressed me, first sticks higher up, then skis "x'ed".
I live in a ski resort and this is just a reflex to me and probably anyone that skis frequently when they see someone injured
That's universal snow sign for frist aud!!
Fr, this guy knew what he was doing.
Especially after a blind crest like that.
When I learned to ski no-one wore helmets! I can’t believe it now
W
Suspected high speed MOI, patient complaining of neck pain and no c-collar? Great job ski patrol!
It’s trauma, you work with what you got. Transport is the best medicine they have on the slope
Ski patrol are morons. Usually only 1/5 has any real medical experience because it’s very easy to get pointless certifications. Dude was breathing and conscious. There’s no reason to rush moving him so quickly. The first responder starts moving him before anyone else is there. His job is to keep the person still and calm while determining the severity of their injuries. Instead he start wiggling the victim around.
@@FumblsTheSniper Ski Patrollers are Not morons if trained properly, which apparently this patroller is NOT!
@@FumblsTheSniper Yeah EMT here, after assessing ABCs the patient seemed stable from this video. No need to hurry with the extrication and transport. I cringed a little when they rolled him onto the litter with no c spine control.
@@Jh0ac I just did lifeguard certification a couple weekends back, and we were trained to move potential spinal injury victims wayyy slower than that, even in deep water!
Bruh imagine laying there passed out and the music is still playing in the airpods🥴
jammin
AAAHHHHH NOOO
That arent airpods, but if he had, he might loose one
@@samuelxd2139 i know
I’ve seen better days 🎶🎶🎶
riding park and no helmet... seriously?!
most people don't were helments especialy adults but i am with you on this one
@@donnahindall118 no most people do, every day on the mountain I probably see 2-3 people without helmets compared to hundreds with helmets. Never seen someone at the park without a helmet
@@meme_enthusiast3021 unfortunately it really depends on the mountain.
@@oak8728 no it doesn’t depend on the mountain. I ride Breckenridge every weekend and always 1-2 dumbasses without helmets. Everyone I see usually wears a helmet for warmth and protection.
@@ponderosacal1218 “it doesn’t depend on the mountain... here’s an anecdote from my mountain”
At my local mountain it’s 50/50, every week
The way you put your skis up in an X probably made it easier for the ski patrol to spot you. That was smart. Well done with helping 👍
Quite common to X a run or a feature when someone is hurt, to stop people jumping into them.
Yeah any X on the snow means don't pass, danger/accident.
I’ve fallen many times while skiing and landed on my head and as soon as I got up all I could think was “I’m so happy helmets exist” WEAR A HELMET
My sister's sentiment as well
Wear a helmet being said on video after a crash into a snow mound
Impressed by the speed of intervention, but not by the way they handled him and rolled him down the slope. No neck brace, nothing. Good thing he didn't have a back injury...
Hi, wilderness first responder here: normally someone is unlikely to have a spinal injury worsened by a roll. It's crucial to get them to advanced care asap and they need to be moved in order for that to happen. They did it correctly
@@actually_nevermind thank you
My 1st thought: where's the frickin c-collar!
@@jfox8531 I don’t think they use c Collars anymore
See, there’s no way of telling if he didn’t have a back injury.
Plot twist: guy who took victim's snowboard at the end does not know him and just got himself a freebie.
:)
Who would steal a K2 snowboard? If it was a lib or an arbor that’s a different story.
@@MR1977. my k2 is perfect bro
@@ikutiap5923 I’m a purist I don’t like ski companies due to the bigotry our sport suffered in its infancy.
Let him try to explain that to St Peter
There will be no snowboarding in Hell
I swear it was annoying to see everyone talking and no one helping for so long....
@severus
What do you think they should have done? They were waiting for ski patrol and not risking any further injuries.
@@colettesantoro6233 you‘re definitely right about not moving him, because of further injuries. However you should always check if a person is breathing and if you can check their heart rate and their pupils. If they are not breathing move the person straight away, risking injuries is not your worst problem then. If they are conscious stay with them and talk to them. :) Skiing Instructor 101 😂
ABC = airway, breathing, circulation. Basic first aid ~
@@spinsterjones4987 when I google that I only get results from australia. The american red cross does not mention it. But yes as a WFR we always check 1) is the scene safe, 2) initial 2-second assessment of what happened, 3) put on PPE, 4) check for other patients, 5) begin to assess ABCDEX
No kidding hey? I'm at 1:48 and they are all just standing, waiting for ski patrol. People need to know basic first aid.
Smart to not move him
Being unconcious that long is not good.
especially while almost upside down, all the blood rushed to his head
and did you hear him say he is "snoring" , that means he didn't have a good airway.
Well, may have been the best option if he had a fractured spinal cord or back injuries/head injuries. People should not be lifted out of cars for this reason
Ya doing nothing really helps
@@vancouver4sure It is not doing nothing. It is the correct thing to do to prevent possible further head/neck/spine injury.
good thing you didnt try to move him
improper movements could kill someone injured that way
always check if he's breathing
imagine dying because someone tried to move you...
@Montana Weatherby saw a work place injury accident. The man fell off a ladder about 3 stories up. Landed head first and lived. His coworkers ran over and in their panic picked him up and he died instantly. His neck was broken but aligned and when they picked him up the fracture moved severing his spinal cord.
@@lindanwfirefighter4973 Lucky to be alive.
A friend of mine works as a first responder and he told me this story.
Car crash scene: a dad with his daughter
The impact was pretty violent, the dad was fine and he managed to make the daughter walk out of the car.
As first responders arrived (my friend including) they told him that they needed to take her daughter to the hospital to make sure she was fine.
Her dad repeatedly refused since "she was walking, therefore she was totally fine".
Long story short, as her dad kept denying the first responders to take his daughter for further medical inspection, there was nothing that they could legally do to take her into custody, so they let both her and her dad go.
In the very same moment the girl tried to fasten her seatbelt, her neck cracked and she dropped dead.
That is all because her dad was being an ignorant and ignoring medics' advice
She could have been alive now but stupidity won
@@s1mo True. My uncle helped a guy out of a crashed car and called an ambulance. The guy was arguing with the ambulance crew but he did finally get in the ambulance. Later my uncle rang the hospital on call to ask how the man was doing. The man had passed. His spleen was ruptured in the crash. He had no way of knowing the risks and felt he was going to be all right. Always respect the crew - they don't want to scare you but so much can go wrong.
Why is everyone seeing this now?
RUclips's algorithm is broken.
it is just being reccommended now
yeah why?
@@RhysFiloon ask youtube
#pandemic
"His head might not be ok...." about the guy who is literally unconscious between trees. Obviously his head isn't ok!
Understatement of the year.
It took you almost 2 minutes and 30 seconds before you even went close to him, time is everything.
Yeah, LAME as hell !!
Plus.. NO NECK BRACE!!
LAWSUIT !
@@cowboykelly6590 you can't sue them you ski at your own risk
L: Time isn't everything if you are not equipped to do something.
What would they do though? They cant move him anyways because of nexk and back injuries
@@Lipsymipsytipsy ABCC
Airway
Breathing
Circulation
C- Spine
Crazy. I just found a guy in the trees with a fully dislocated shoulder three days ago. Stayed with him for half an hour or so until ski patrol showed up. The guy had epilepsy and had a few episodes during the wait. Felt bad for him but what else you gonna do.
Wonder if his buddy is just waiting wondering where he at. At the lift line
Never board alone
I don't think you found him, but thanks for actually helping him
WEAR HELMETS EVERYONE PLEASE!! I'M A VETERAN BOARDER BUT I'VE HAD MY SHARE OF ACCIDENTS, CONCUSSIONS, TEMPORARY AMNESIA, ETC FROM HITS TO MY HEAD OVER THE YEARS WHEN I WAS YOUNG. NOW I'M 41 AND HAVE SUSPECTED CTE AMONGST OTHER SERIOUS HEALTH PROBLEMS RELATED TO MULTIPLE HEAD INJURIES FROM 20 YEAR'S AGO NOW.
CDP-choline or GPC-choline help restore brain from injuries/concussions. Not immediately, but over several months-years. I've known people using it to recover from concussions. Or hyperbaric oxygen chambers. All professional footballers/sportsmen use them.
@@Runner8617 Can they do anything for a stuck Caps-lock tho?
hey if no one thanked you I am now great to see people still look out for each other nice job. god bless. stay safe out there.
dude!!!!! did they seriously let that poor guy roll off the back board n smack his dome peace!!!/??? WTF???
When I broke my face at keystone the skis the ski patrol put up to warn people to go around fell down and hit me in the head. I think it's just a ski patrol thing...
Rolled right off!! 🤭 sounded like his head smacked the skis
"hey bud, whats your name?"
"GUSS"
"Guss, whats goin on"
Guss what going on?😂 had a good laugh too
Not funny
I think I missed the joke or sumn
Because it is like a really bad pun, sounding like "guess whats going on"
@@fabianjackson6977 Wait that is actually kind funny lmaoo
The dude is dying and everyone is filming around him for 10min, not even approaching to check the pulse
When someone’s got a potential head or neck Injury, you don’t touch them
@@pizzadog9580 You definitely carry out CPR! What ridiculous nonsense. Do some research and do not post unhelpful, dangerous comments.
@@jg2060 how exactly would you do CPR on a person wedged in the trees on his side, pray tell? Better to wait for ski patrol.
@@liz9843 You DON’T, you absolute cretin. If in ANY situation you find somebody who is not responding then you ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS CHECK IF THEY ARE BREATHING. Is their airway clear? If they are not breathing then you FUCKING MOVE THEM into a position where you can start CPR. It does not matter if you’re worried they have spinal injuries because THEY ARE FUNCTIONALLY DEAD and it is on you to keep their heart beating and oxygen circulating around their body until help arrives.
Checking the pulse isn’t a priority. Most untrained people (and many trained) can’t find a pulse in the field anyway. What you need to check is: IS THE CASUALTY BREATHING? If they’re not breathing - or doing agonal breathing (pls google what that sounds like) - then you need to call for help and start CPR immediately.
Ski patroller here. I was impressed with how quickly so many patrollers arrived on the scene. Including toboggan. Many comments about no neck brace or spinal immobilization. They would have done some checks before moving him. It is now known that further spinal injury from gently moving a patient is rare/ unlikely - nothing compared to the violence of the initial impact. The patient kept trying to sit up - pehaps a serious concussion and the guy didn't know where he was or what was happening!? Asking where am I? What happened? about 20 times...
But.. NO NECK BRACE !
THEIR FIRED!! SKI RESORT..
CLOSED INDEFINITELY !!
cuz it has too pay the lawsuit they lost.
Inadequate training??
Look...the fact that the patient complained of back pain enough that they were using a backboard says something. The fact that they dumped the patient off of the backboard because they forgot to strap him down says something else. Watch the video again and tell me that these guys know what they are doing. They had a hard time figuring out how to strap him down AFTER they dumped him on the ground.
I just got my EMT license in December. I was told multiple times in training that a lot of protocols are changing to no longer requiring c-collars or backboards.
dude he literally fell off the backboard because they were so shit. Don't try to defend them.
@@lindsaypark7596 that's dumb on any sport related accident. so no.
Can’t you see the airpods? He’s just tryna jam to some tunes in peace
Yes.
Sounds like my grandpa.
2:27 these arent airpods
@@samuelxd2139 thanks for fact checking my joke I really appreciate it
Am I the only one chocked by the fact that they are discussing for ages the state of the guy without going down to help him ?
They can't touch him. It could paralyze him if they move him slightly. They 100% had to wait for paramedics.
@@courtnayhayhayyy nonsense. At least step out of your skies, go there and check if he is breathing.
Title should be. "I found a guy who found a snowboarder passed out in the woods and took credit for it"
I don't think the point was to gain "credit" at all... It's just a video... In my opinion it's educational to show people what could happen... To remind folks both to make safer choices and also to be aware of your surroundings and look out for others who might be in danger!
@@JennBirch That's a big assumption! I like your charisma!
Jesus, happy it ended the way it does. But do they really just slide them down in this cage? In Europe they get them down in a proper snowmobile. This looks hella uncomfortable and dangerous in an emergency.
They do this in Europe as well if they don't have a snowmobile
It looks secure enough - if they had to use a helicopter to airlift him out, the backboard needs to be light.
Not every patrol has the money for snowmobiles.
Man I’ve got so much respect for the ski patrol, what a job. I mean they’re doing their best to help people even if they got hurt in stupid ways
So do I in this particular case they didn’t do the best job ever but yeah I ski a lot and they’re just absolute legends !!!
Liam Neeson wife died on a Canadian ski hill in Montreal. She had a head injury, she fell hit her head and was not wearing a helmet. So please wear your helmets.
How long ago?
@@jjedwards8666she passed away in 2009.
Like michael schumacher, he is completely disabeled😢
Omg
Important to note that she fell during a ski lesson on a small slope and no one even realized she had hurt herself. She was walking and talking normally and the concussion took about an hour to kick in before anyone realized how badly she was hurt. You can Google the news stories. It's actually a really strong case for wearing a helmet no matter what
That they didn't actually go down to him and see if he's dead or alive or in need of help is beyond me ..I can't understand or believe how detached they were
Crazy as it might be, interfering in any way with an unconscious person in a situation like this is actually the stupidest thing you can do. If they had rushed down and shaken him or climbed on him or anything he could have potentially been killed.
@@evankrueger7321 no shaking neccessary just hey are you OK?
They literally did though?
@@Happydays77231 they called out to him, no response. That’s the end of what they needed to do.
Not everyone can think with a clear head in unexpected situations.. they stopped and called for help, lets focus on the positive.
Why is this being recommended to us now? 😂
Facts
so true he was lying there from last winter
So all dummies start wear helmet...to save his brain and hospital bill...
So people start wear helmet....😣😳😒
@@melenamayson8275 hey baby
At least check if he is breathing when you first find him!
Rule goes if you find some like this unless you have medical training and are certified you don’t touch him
@@cold758 yup
If he broke a rib or something, moving him could've hurt him more
If hes snoring hes breathing right?
@@kathrynaguenza4508 snoring can be associated with breathing but agonal breathing sounds like snoring and if it is agonal then you have a serious problem on your hands and you dont have much time and every second counts.
@@cold758 the least you have to do is to check whether he is breathing or not. And you need to relay that to the emergency dispatcher as he is the one deciding whether to just send out the paramedics or to send out an emergency doctor as well. And for that you don't even have to touch the patient!
This was hard to watch for a paramedic. At first no first aid from the guys who found him and then the people who are trained for exactly these situations did an awful job. Compromising his health even further. I dont know where they got their education but this was really shocking to watch.
Yea, my man is getting tons of praise for doing absolutely nothing.
If someone has a possible neck injury you shouldn't move them. What could I do if I found someone in this situation to help without moving them? Genuinely curious.
Jon Davis check their breathing to make sure they aren’t choking on their tongue or blood.
@@HaloDude557 Good idea. Breathing definitely takes priority. Should probably also take a pulse and start cpr if there is none.
@@j0ndav1s CPR is also a good idea but I'm not an expert to recommend it. I don't know what to do if they have broken ribs, punctured lungs, or need to be moved to start CPR.
You all need a lesson on assisting people in need of help. Start by taking off your skis and checking for vitals while another person finds medical help. Unbelievable.
It was shockingly bad.
❤
Never ski or snowboard without a helmet, I know from experience, took just one severe concussion to realize its as essential as your board. Been snowboarding for 15 years.
I think I know a few Breckenridge ski patrollers that need a refresher on how to assess and package a patient with a head and back injury...
same thought... claiming his back hurts and they just yank him out of there...
And you don't even go right up and check on him?!!?
Finally someone who knows to put the skis up as a cross above the accident site! Warns other skiers and is a non missable sign for ski patrol. Way too often people don’t know about this. Good reaction! (Ignore all those who are so clever; calling help and securing the accident scene are the most important bits; and everything additional in a situation like this with all the adrenaline is in reality hard to do right)
I thought they taught that in “Skiing 101.”
@@margaretmathis4775 you‘d think so. But many ski learners somehow skip that part it seems. Or forget about it again.
"I found a snowboarder passed out in the trees... and did nothing". Surely if your thing is being up on the slopes you've done at least rudimentary first aid training?
Snoring is not a good sign. I hope he was ok.. Damn, that is a bad day.
Snoring means that his airway was obstructed thats all. Its actaully a good thing because its a sign hes getting air.
@@timc5301 Umm, pretty sure an obstruction to the airway is a bad sign. If you're not getting sufficient air flow, you can suffocate.
@@GH-Rav its better to have some air then no air lol if he wasnt snoring then you wouldnt know if he was getting oxygen at all. Are you going to freak out if you hear someone snoring in bed and shake them awake because there not getting "sufficent oxygen" no. The only way to know if someone is getting sufficent oxygen is via pulse ox or the color of there lips/skin.
Normal snoring is not something to worry about but this man just had a head injury. When has sustained a head injury and you can hear them snoring, traditional first aid says you're supposed to move his head or body into a position in which his airway is no longer obstructed. You shouldn't just dismiss his injury as, "He's fine since you can hear him breathing." He could end up with severe brain injury or permanently comatose.
If you're saying that snoring is a good sign because that means he's alive, then yes of course it is a good thing to know that he is alive. Yes, some air is better than no air but snoring itself is not a good sign after a head injury, especially if it is loud snoring. Snoring happens when there is an obstruction to the airway, meaning that there is a chance that not enough oxygen is reaching his brain. Snoring could be a sign of imminent danger to life or quality of life. A GOOD sign would be breathing with no obstruction, which you can check by seeing seeing if his chest is rising and falling or by putting a piece of glass, like their goggles, under his nose. Breathing IS a good sign, but not snoring.
think about how many people went right by this guy.
this exact thing happened to me and i busted my shoulder, it takes TWO seconds to stop and see if someone is okay, don’t be selfish people..
that could be your kid one day.
The bystander effect. One time i saw a guy fall flat on his back on a bigjump in the bottom of a slope and was knocked unconscious while i was standing in line for tickets 100-200 meters further down. We figured everyone has seen this and the employes of the resort will take care of it. But after like a minute with no one doing anything i pushed my way trough the line and asked the girl behind the counter if they where going to do something? Then she radioed someone and they sent a snowmobile up to check him out (still unconscious laying on the landing).
@@titter3648 fawk sakes man!! :/
Maybe they just didn't see him. It's damn a hill. People always assume no one helps other people. In most cases they do.
No neck brace placed on him and letting him move around....amateurs.
Good for them for not moving him. The only thing I would be worried about is the trees and force of gravity compressing his chest and causing him to suffocate.
I'm an emergency personal, and I get it you're scared to help cause you think you can't do anything, but when someone is making slurred breathing noices, how hard was it to take his boots off, not hard at all doing nothing made this video difficult to watch , so please if this happens to anyone else, you rock up to an incident like this.... please treat it as if it's someone you know a loved one maybe, help them out, or at least talk to them.... ask them questions
one person should start going to bottom asap to get help from lift attendants who can easily call ski patrol
allgolfalot Very good advice.
@@timothyfoleyjr2796 i fell pretty bad once and knocked my head hard.. ended up with a ruptured spleen as well.. but i actually got up and snowboarded down to the bottom. i told my friends i wanted to just take a break. i called my friends multiple times wondering where they were. luckily, one of them knew something was wrong with me and raced back down to the bottom ( they had gone back up lift, leaving my in ski lodge).. and he went and got ski patrol. he doesn't realize he probably saved my life!
@@timothyfoleyjr2796 my point, i take safety seriously when skiing. one of those guys should have started immediatly skiing towards the nearest lift to inform ski patrol. if you super paranoid you could even invest in a good walkie talkie and ask ski patrol what a good channel is if they are in an emergency.. some mountains have this set up
oooooor, phone ski patrol in 15 seconds....
@@acon2834 good call me and my friends too dumb to have their number or call the mountain
I like how you treated him like he had the plague.
Exactly, wtf??!
LOL, this made me laugh. Seriously though, I've never seen an accident scene where nobody approaches the person down to even see if they're breathing. So bizarre.
My sister was skiing with someone that went full speed into a tree with a helmet a few months ago. He is still recovering and learning to talk apparently. But without the helmet he would have been dead.
Helmet, back brace, colored jacket, Always. No matter how pro you think you are!!
back brace? wtf lol
@@stevenramirez1179 A back brace can save your life. I know two people who have broken their backs while skiing, one i still inna wheel chair 20 years later. All sensible skiers wear a back brace.
After living in breck for the last 5 years, I've heard about deaths by trees on resorts every year, we just lost an elderly man last week to a tree collision 😥
People in denial..they taking life for a granted and think that nothing and never will happen to them..and then next thing you know..accident..instant trauma..they are dead and no longer around us..😣😪
No kidding - I woke up hugging a tree there once, lost the last few seconds of how I got there. I swear the trees there are just a few inches too close together! and for sure: wear a helmet!
@@linolinco wear a back protector too. Its not fun to sit in a wheelchair for the rest of your life
Whoa! That was scary! From Hawaii!? Did you find out if he’s okay or what his injuries were? Hope you’re doing well! Thanks for stopping and helping this poor kid!
He ended up dying
I remember some guy in the 70's who went skiing for the first time with friends. They told him it was easy just point down hill and go straight. Poor guy was NOT taught how to turn, stop or even fall. He hit a tree head on at some ungodly speed and was killed instantly.
Not hating because its tough to kniw without being there but not moving someone is only something you worry sbout once pulse is verified and airway ensured open. People should all learn basic first aid.
Four whole years after being a failure the algorithm decides to give this guy his 15m of fame.
I think I prefer the old days when most people had some basic first aid skills, and taking cell phone video wasn't an option.
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I shall do so and I also have a feeling that this video is going to be recommended to everyone soon
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Bevore it goes really really viral lets get the 1 k
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This demonstrates how crucial it is for 1st aid training, the guy was on the ground way too long. Knowing what to do in circumstances like this is paramount, next time it could be your kids, spouse or friend.
He didn't witness it so it's probably best he didn't try helping him incase he caused anything worse. If he already called ski patrol to help then it's no far from the best he could have done for the circumstances
Yeah, no. Unless your actually trained(wfa, emt, rn) please just ask "you ok, bro", call ski patrol, and leave me in place.
@@BCcherokee No anything is better than doing nothing. Everyone should know first aid, and everyone should assist someone in need. In this case it was a good decision to wait for the ski patrol because he was breathing, ski patrol was close by, and moving him could worsen any possible neck and back injury (but seeing how badly the ski patrol did with no neck brace and handling him like that it would no have made a difference). But if someone is not breathing, or has some serious bleeding going on you start first aid no matter if you are worried about neck and back injury's. Its a reason why it is called FIRST aid.
@@titter3648 Anything is NOT better than nothing, unless you are trained. He saw that he was breathing and got ski patrol there. I wouldn’t want some random person saying, um, let’s do just do anything. It’s not that easy to maneuver in ski boots on the side of a steep hill. I would have easily slid right into him if I tried to move too fast.
So what do you do?
Plot Twist, The emergancy team does a backflip with him on the rescue board.
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I’m just saying the skier trying to unbuckle all the snowboarders straps was pretty funny.I’m happy they helped and he’s safe now
Same thing happened to me some years ago, skiing at Snoqualmie, WA.: I came across a 'boarder passed out in the trees, crumpled in fetal form. With a bota bag beside him. So in other words, a typical snowboarder, drunk (and high), catching some air Passed out. So I did what anyone would do- I drank what was left (Jack Daniels), pissed on his board, and left him be.
S/o the homies for keeping the eyes peeled... Who knows how long he could've been there if they didn't see him. Were all family on the mountain. Ill definitely be on the lookout more after this one.💯
Been skiing for 57 years now and have never worn a helmet. Just a nasty cut to the chin and a concussion are the extent of my injuries to the head. I do have to say that I feel under-"dressed" when I look around and I am the only one in a hat. I think with the technology improvements speeds have increased and the consequences of crash are greater now. Back in the day, powder skiing was like slow motion. Not today. I do "plan" my turns on hard pack so that a high speed fall will not put me in the trees. But alas I will probably get a helmet this year and join the herd.
You sound like an idiot to me.
Where I used to live, all the skateboarders in the city would go on a monthly ride around the city (hundreds, if not thousands of boarders). It was like a parade. Every single one of them would be wearing a helmet. I asked a kid about it once, and was told that it was a memorial ride, in honor of their fallen friend, who died when he fell off his board without a helmet, and they were spreading awareness that helmets were not lame, they save lives. All the kids at the skate park wore helmets after his death, to show that he didn't die for nothing. I always thought it was so cool. Being prepared can save your life. What's cooler than getting up and walking away from a potentially life-threatening situation? I hope you got the helmet. :)
I got a nasty concussion years ago falling off my large horse galloping.
Long story short…….I got a “football Concussion”, don’t remember a few hours, get lectured by a doctor, puked my guts out, and had weird sleeping spells from noon to 3pm for a week.
I was lucky.
Helmets are cool. Hospital stays and bed pans are not.
everyone's talking about head trauma but the dude didn't hit his head, he took the tree in the gut and can knock you out pretty dam hard
kinda appalled that no one even approached, tried to talk to him, make sure he was even conscious or if he was bleeding, my god
Exactly my thoughts as to the mystery to why standbyers are the most useless things in critical situations.
It’s like they think there is some rules from the government that prevents them from touching someone injured or some shyt.
Fkn morons
@@mrultima You have this kind of laws in some countries. If you are helping someone but he dies in your hand, you will be responsible and will have to face judges. And it's exactly like a moto or car crash, it's way better to wait for pros, because if you move a person, you can just increase the damage by making a single wrong move. The only thing you have to do is checking breath to be honest.
(English isn't my first language, but I think you have the idea ! : )
The whole event was a shit show! I am so appalled at how this was handled from start to finish!!! Then put in the internet for “a poor college student” to get money! FFS disguising!! This needs to be removed off the internet. I would be suing if I was this guy.
People who are like “why didn’t they approach him” have never been faced with seeing someone really fucked up and being scared.
When I was 19 on christmas day I saw a car in the ditch next to an icy road. There were plenty of cars going past but I stopped just to check. A girl was still in the car and couldn't get the door open because the snow was so high in the ditch. She was clearly shocked because I asked her if she was okay and gestured to roll her window down while I was scooping snow away. All the while cars were just passing... she didn't roll down the window and I got worried if she had hit her head or something.
So we finally got the door open and i asked her if she was alright again and stuff and she was so thankful and clearly wasn't in a state to think straight. But she said she wasn't hurt and the airbags hadn't been activated either. So we got her out of the car I asked her what her name was and all that and if she was a member of the ADAC. She wasn't, so I called them to come and only THEN when I was standing on the side of the road on my phone suddenly a few cars slowed down and asked if we were okay and stuff and I was just really annoyed by then. People really don't know what to do in these situations and they just rather look away.
So that these guys stopped at all and by that made others notice the situation is at least something I guess.
Anyways she called her dad and the towtruck came and she was much better by then so I felt comfortable to leave her with the tow truck person because I had to go to work another 2 hours away.
It's mandatory to learn basic first aid here to get your license but I think we should make it mandatory to refresh the skills at least every 5 years (2 years would be better)...
Even if you're scared and don't know what to do, go get the ski patrol, that's literally what they're there for.
If you do NOT wear a helmet, you are an ORGAN DONOR ! God bless.
(DH is a motorcycle mechanic with 30+ years of experience)
My friend died in a snowboarding accident a few weeks ago. This like drives it home. 😢
I am so sorry for your loss
I had a friend die in a snowboarding accident thirty years ago. Breaks my heart it is still happening. So sorry for your loss.
Wow. R.I.P.
I am so sorry for your loss. Did he wear helmet?😣😳😌💝
@@melenamayson8275 Yes, his body took most of the impact and he was bleeding internally.
I went skiing this last weekend, and I fell and hit me head really hard. I had a helmet on, so I only suffer a concussion. If I didn’t have it, who knows
Every skier and snowboarder knows the number one thing to remember while on the slopes, trees don’t move
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BRO NICE SAVE! i literally dealt with this exact scenario last week. one thing i have noticed though compared to 10 years ago, EVEYONE wears helmets now.
Great hazard marking with the skis and poles.
I see a bunch of comments citing the lack of basic first aid, but you did good.
Communicated and minimized further injury. You shouldn't do anything else unless you are trained.
There are professional all over the ski hill to do that.
Its hard to watch how long they wait with checking if he is still breathing...
RUclips recommended: hey kid, this is your future
My aunt is 50+ and she still goes out and snowboards. She tells me stories about being stuck under a tree, and thinking for sure she'd be dead. Helmet or not, it can happen to anyone.
Thank you for your vigilance and for taking the time to actually check on this guy, it's amazing how often I see someone injured on the hill and most of the time people just ski past.. if you see someone hurt, or off in the trees, please take the time to check on them and make sure they're OK..
Why are they just standing there not unequpipping their skis / snowboard for sooo long 😭
I mean the person filming did well I guess. But the 2 others legit being unexistent
@@chim_7 you replied to yourself
@@meeast1169 noo its a different chimera broo, he copying me -.-
If you don’t wear a helmet during any activity where you go faster than walking speed, that’s just natural selection. He probably had a concussion. Hopefully, not a bad TBI.
Not sure about you but when I go running I don’t wear a helmet
@@falconhonour1074 bro u know what he meant
cmdmd Do you guys realize that we skied for years and only wore a helmet when we race “Downhill”. I’m not saying that was smart, but all we wore were knitted ski caps. We were just people who enjoyed the great outdoors. What can I say: We were from California.
Snowboarded for years without a helmet never knocked myself or hurt my head but I do agree if you are going off jumps or half pipe you its best to wear a helmet.
I’ll never understand what’s with people and safety. I ride and wear a helmet. In fact, on any sport or activity on which I have the chance of falling, I’ll wear a helmet. Doesn’t take away anything.
Exposing oneself is silly and unnecessary
Immediate first reaction should be to check airway and heartbeat.
Good job putting skis up when I busted my knee on a jump several people almost hit me being I couldn't move. Appreciate people who pay attention and help those in need. Again Good Job and great footage.
Standing there, watching and watching, talking and talking... you or one of the others could at least get near to him quicker and check quicker if he's breathing and talk to him.
I understand being anxious in such a situation and at least you called for help but there's no value in posting this vid, nothing good to learn here. AND you don't even know if the guy dislike that you show this.
i agree
Agreed man, sorry but this should be recognized as what not to do. don't know why you waited till he regained consciousness to start giving a shit and doing something?
At least he blocked the terrain and made so it couldn’t get worse.
You'd be surprised how many people have no clue how to react in a emergency situation. Sometimes the best thing you can do is nothing if you don't know what to do.
If it's a spinal injury you cannot move him without a team or at least proper training
I had to go down on one of those boards and it was scary. At least the doggie kept me calm.
Wow that’s great you found him. I wonder how many others are stuck in the snow injured 🤕 & never found. This is giving me anxiety just watching. Where is the ski 🎿 patrol EMT helper men? I hope 🤞Gus is okay.
also........ if they are suspecting a spinal or neck injury (hence the back board) where is the neck collar???? I broke my neck a few years back. Neck collar for 12 weeks!! :/
You did everything right. I would have not touched that young man unless he was in cardiac arrest. But wow, why didn’t ski patrol put a collar on that kid is bewildering.
I lived in Breckenridge for many years. The skiing draws a lot of unskilled labor to Summit County in the winter and they work part time with minimal qualifications at the seasonal jobs like ski patrol. When they are at work their minds are thinking about the next time they get to hit the slopes on their own terms.
@@BlLL_LUMBERGHthat works for a lot of mountian jobs except for ski patrol, which generally has a emt equipment or higher certification requirements. Especially at Breckenridge since they have a full Union patrol calling them part time is hard lol. It is hard to say weather it is required or not here, there where a lot of cuts. Most recent data suggests that that collaring and back boarding can cause more harm than good. Although from what i understand ski patrol is/was on the conservative side of things.
i really thought that guy was 100% paralyzed neck down no way he stuck that with no helmet and walked away
Dang dude good on you for putting up the crosses and calling patrol quick while the other guys chilled
2 and a half minutes to check if the guy's breathing...
That was frustrating to watch. At least one of those guys should have taken their skis off immediately and run down to check he was breathing. Then talk to him and reassure him help was on the way. More people should know first aid but I would have thought those steps would be common sense.
Plot twist: He was just taking a peaceful nap and you guys ruined his slumber
Jokes asside: Glad he was found & hopes hes okay