Acoustic Guitar Pickups #4 - Yamaha SRT (Silent Guitar)
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I’ve gigged one of these for the last couple of years and love it . Great guitar sound and playability
Nigel 1958 I agree it’s very cool!
Hi there.... What do you do if the onboarding electronics fail at a gig? Is there anyway to use an external pickup in an emergency??
Wow it sounds great when you blend in the image.
Clearly not silent. Thank you for showing us what it sounds like in the room. I watched 10-12 videos before this one trying to hear just how loud it actually is. Thanks!
It’s not silent but it’s quiet enough to play late at night in an apartment. It couldn’t be much quieter as you are always going to hear the strings!
Same 😅
Sounds surprisingly good. In a band mix, I'll bet it works great. Or in a loud bar for that matter. Super cool viable instrument. Does it rival a good acoustic amplified? I don't think so. But it sounds convincing, credible and worthy and considering the cost? ...It's a steal! Great demo Aaron. I greatly appreciate your commentary and considerations.
Thanks for the good review Aaron, I used your video to help me decide on my purchase of one of these.
I gig about 30 shows/year in a 10-piece show band running my SLG200S first into a Line 6 wireless, to an active DI for the FOH, folded back to my floor wedge in front of me & finally to an Acoustasonic Jr for a stage side fill (amp is also shared with a Godin electric mandolin). I can run it stupid loud both indoors and out and get absolutely zero feedback. For a rock band needing a solid acoustic in the mix it's better than any other a/e guitar I've ever tried. It sounds so good live at full stage volume that the other guitarist in my band shouted "That thing sounds f*&^%ng AWESOME" at me the first time I brought it out onstage (at an outdoor festival). LOL
In addition, I also do acoustic duo stuff once in a while and it has enough subtlety once you get it set up right that it'll make your Mama cry for joy. LOL
Hey Jeff thanks for letting me know and I agree it’s a great tool. There’s nothing quite like it!
Aaron, good revue, as always. Just a couple questions:
How would this guitar do plugged in directly into a TC Helicon Play Acoustic? Are they a good match?
Also, how hard is it to get used to it compared to a "regular" acoustic?
Hi! It would work great as you could turn the body rez off on the TC and use the IR on the Yamaha. It will never feedback as it has no body but you are right that it will take some getting used to. It would just take a few weeks and I am sure you would find it very comfortable. They are amazing value!
Guitar sounds awesome using it with a Yamaha THR-5A modeling amp. Software allows additional effects and better control over the existing ones. Very good as a travel guitar.
I agree. It’s an unbeatable travel guitar!
“Either mic or pickup, but never both”… glad at least one reviewer gets it!
Oh..thx..what a git! I use the nylon in my vids..thanx for uploading
I’d love to try the nylon version!
Great guitar, I love mine. I even use it like an electric guitar through a pedal.
Rock on!
Hi Aaron... Really enjoy the channel. I know this is an older video, but I am thinking about purchasing one of these for live gigging. My question is what can I use as a back up pick up or something if the Yamaha electronics fail at a gig? Any suggestions? Thanks!
That’s the only downside. You would been to buy two of them or hope that you don’t have any issues.
Would it be more sound better if you connect this to an acoustic amp like Boss Acoustic Singer Live? or the BOSS VE-8?
Hi Aaron. I have one of these and love it, BUT..... the volume on the G B and E strings do not come through like the others without some picking - or pulling. I paid for a set-up at my local Music shop but No joy. I really want to fix this problem without sending it away again. Any ideas please.
PS. what are the strings you are using again mate. I cannot make out what you are saying. Thanks Fella from Dan.
I use Martin Authentic Acoustic 2.0 MA540T. It’s most likely your saddle not sitting correctly/uneven. I would find another tech or send it to Yamaha.
Hi there ... Cheers for the tidy review👍if I plug in an aux input will it mix and playback via the jack output to an amp?
Also can the headphone output be used to as a recording output of guitar & aux
mix in stereo? Anthony, Glasgow
Output Jack is guitar only. You could use the headphone output to send the guitar and aux signal to a speaker or interface.
Thanks. Another great review. That’s a super cool design, I hadn’t given the silent guitar much thought before. Have you tried the SRT2 in the A series guitars? Would be interested to hear a review / your thoughts.
Those are pretty cool. I think it’s time for an updated version though…
@@aaronshortmusic I wish it were an option to get the Atmosfeel in the A series!
@@caseyholford Yes it’s a strange mix of analog and digital at the moment.
Hi Aaron. How is the string height from the fretboard? Most are very high on acoustic guitars. Thanks for the demo.
This guitar came set up pretty well but I did have my tech look it over and I believe he lowered the action slightly on this one.
I have troubled using slg200 with ehx synth9,playing around 30 mins the synth9 turns off,i also have slg100 and no trouble with synth9 playing for hours. Do you think the battery (2pcs AA) and polarity (center +) have an issues with ehx synth9?
I’m not sure but it sounds likely. You may want to contact EHX and ask them.
@@aaronshortmusic ok,thanks!
Mary Abigail B. Verzosa Let me know if you find out the answer!
Hi Aaron!
First off all, your reviews are veeeeery nice and useful!!! Thanks a lot for all of them!
And if I may ask for something, would you mind making SLG200S review with distortion and others guitar FXs?
Thanks!
Hey! I had planned on making a video of the Fender Acoustasonic with effects. Stay tuned!
I will! Thanks a lot for that!
I have 3 Yamaha silent guitars , i have the SLG 200 but i prefer the SLG 130 classical Nylon string ,cause have more volume more power , and use 9volt , i use rechargeable 9 volt..the SLG 200 is very weak sound..i used rechargeable AA batteries but the battery case of the SLG 200 is little bit small for those batteries and is difficult to place inside . i used for 15 months until the spring of the battery case broke, i got replacement from Yamaha, cause i knew it will break again i choose to use the SLG 130. i feel more satisfy
Thanks for the review. I just got an SLG200S, is it the same technology as the one you have here? Or newer? I heard it’s 3rd gen
Congrats. It is the same tech but the nylon string version vs steel.
@@aaronshortmusic okay. But do you have the followings problem: 1. I can not get D and B, but can only get d and b on display in tuning while the rest is upper case. But if I use another tuner, they are the same. So then if i get flat on a separate tuner, the display on the guitar is way off. 2. there's a prolonged humming from strings not struck in the background, when playing, mostly E, A. Are these normal? thanks
Aaron, as you recently received this from Sweetwater (year end holidays 2018), have you found the removable upper bout's retaining thumbscrews get loose? Other reviews of earlier SLG200S production models have commented this was an issue. Also good to hear your insights about using the SLG200S with the Helix!
I haven’t used it with a strap yet. I think that is what causes the issue and I can see how that would happen. Since I don’t have first hand experience I’m afraid I can’t help you but I’ll update here if it happens...
If I may chime in, I will say that the screw does loosen when used with a strap, but I've never found it to be a HUGE issue. In other words, it has never completely separated and it's easy enough to screw back in real quick.
Aaron,
Thank you very much for the fantastic demo and review. I’m thinking about getting this guitar and your video is extremely helpful. One question for you: have you had any issues with low volume while just using headphones straight from the guitar? I played the guitar at a local Sam Ash and could barely hear the guitar while using Apple earbuds. I then tried over ear Grado headphones and it was much better, but still a lower volume than I would like with the volume knob cranked. Granted it was a very loud music store and maybe the batteries in the guitar were low. My intention with the guitar is to use headphones into the guitar without any amps or computer connections.
Regards,
Neil
Hi Neil. No issues with volume. Sounds great with headphones.
there is nylon version , is the sole difference the tuning pegs? can you mount a nylon string on it! will it sound same? thanks
Tuning pegs, nut width, electronics. They are not interchangeable.
would you recommend adding an electric guitar pickup like lipstick or single coil ones?
It could be cool but there’s not a lot of space to route cables etc.
Check out Jack Thammarat- great player from Thailand. He has one on his silent guitar. Haven’t figured out how he installed it yet. ruclips.net/video/GA7nQtwrYmc/видео.html
I would like to own one... could I plug into a passive DI and go direct to the Front of House Mixer?
Yes. You could also just go direct to the mixer.
Want to buy one of these for the office and take my 1 hour lunch practicing at my desk. Do you recommend this is an electric? I play and like acoustic, but can't bring that to the office. Would want to make sure the practice would help me transition easily to my acoustic.
Yes it would be good for that as it is affordable, portable and can be played unplugged, with headphones or through an acoustic amp.
Nice video! Question: what would happen if you replace the steel strings with nylon strings? Would it then sound like a classical guitar?
The IR's are of steel string guitars. They do make a Nylon string version of the guitar...
@@aaronshortmusic thanks for the info! Though I wonder what would happen if you pair steel string IR with nylon strings
@@abdumushuk2219 If you try it please let me know :-)
@@aaronshortmusic lol will do
Hi Aaron nice review of the silent Yamaha S, can yo do the same with the N version?
Thanks Martin. I definitely will if the opportunity arises.
Which gauges you recommend for this awesome guitar? 12-53?...
Yes
have a Yamaha SLG200N WITH WHICH NYLON STRINGS DOES IT COME ASSEMBLED? AND IN GENERAL WHICH NYLON STRINGS DO YOU RECOMMEND AND AT WHAT VOLTAGE? YAMAHA RECOMMENDS THE MEDIUMS (Yamaha S10), BUT THEY CANNOT BE FOUND THANKS!
Hi there! The strings will be on the guitar when you purchase it. They are indeed Yamaha S10 Medium Nylon strings and they are available from eBay etc.
@@aaronshortmusic Do you advice other type of strings as well? and what tension do you recommend ? hard, extra hard , normal or low tension? Thanks a lot for the kind and prompt reply !
@@prof.francescobruno9117 I am not as familiar with nylon strings. I would use what Yamaha recommend and go down a gauge (lights) if I wanted the guitar to be easier to play.
Hello, I am very interested to buy a Yamaha SLG200S. Also on your model you with 2 points behind the nut (fixing points?). On most sales announcements we do not find these 2 points. Yet the reference of the guitar model is the same, with or without these 2 points. Can you please tell me what are these 2 points on your guitar? What are they for ? Why on many sales ads these 2 points do not appear on the photos? And so if there are two models of this guitar, which is the most recent? Thank you so much. And congratulations for your video. John.
I’m not quite sure what you mean. Are you talking about the screws? They are holding the plate on that covers the truss rod adjustment screw.
I do not know if it's screw because I've never seen this guitar in real life and I never had it in my hands.
But here are 2 links that allow to see 2 photos, one with the 2 points behind the saddle and the other without the 2 points.
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Do you mean it's the same guitar but one with a plastic hood that covers the screws and the other without the hood? Thank you.
@@johnwebster1175 I think those are purely esthetic inlays, similar to fret markers on the fretboard.
I just realized that my SLG200N (nylon version) does indeed have those two inlays. Maybe there are screws beneath them, but I'm not going to find out.
I have the SLG200S, it sound absolutely good. No issues with batteries because I use it with a Yamaha AC power adaptor (PA-130) all the time. Why should anyone worry about the batteries?
Good point but I enjoy using batteries as I use it with my wireless system sometimes.
So you connect the headphones directly to the guitar or do you need an amp?
You can use it both ways. Headphones are mini jack. Amp is standard guitar cable.
@@aaronshortmusic so that mean, we can play the guitar without the amp? just using headphones?
because I need something like that though
Kiri Lemon Yes you can connect headphones directly to the guitar...
Thanks for telling what strings come with it and the gauge
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
@@aaronshortmusic I've been scouring the internet for it lol, appreciate it
Hi Aaron. nice review. I have one of these which i use via head phones ( Yamaha ones) i am disappointed with the sound, i expected it to sound like they do on the RUclips videos, which i checked out before buying, i have never played it through an amp ,i would imagine thats the sound i was expecting through the head phones, i agree with some of the other comments its not loud enough and as you said its base heavy, what do you recomend, or am i expecting to much from the head phones ? regards Stu.
It took me a while to enjoy headphones. I currently use in ear monitors and I have spent a few months with them. I love them now. If you look up my Xvive U4 review they are linked in the description. The silent guitar is using older tech. It can sound good, I usually cut all of the bass and boost some treble. I quite like the sound that I get in headphones more than through a PA. I haven’t managed to get a good sound through a PA yet. I know that the TomeDexter pedal has IR’s that you can download to improve the sound but that pedal costs as much as a silent guitar. You may find a small external mixer would help you to shape the sound as well...
I have the same exact yamaha coming in Monday. I'm incredibly happy. It's getting me into imaging technology. Never thought I'd try recording acoustic direct..I wonder if it's nice with effects. Can't wait.
Mike Perron Congratulations Mike! It works great with effects!
Mike, Please share your feedback 😀
Great Review Aaron !!!! I love your vids ! can you please review the SRT with the YAMAHA A series (A3R like) also with percussion plays :) ! thks !!!!!
Thank you! I would love to review this system but I am going to predict that there will not be much percussion sound available. I would check out the ‘Atmosfeel’ pickup if you play that style.
@@aaronshortmusic that'd be great, cause i watched some video of a guys using the Yamaha A3R live using some percussion and it worked , not so loud but we can hear the percussions
@@aaronshortmusic because I want to buy one (the new model) and the mic simulations sound just perfect
Fares.B That’s cool but I’d need Yamaha to loan me one. Feel free to tell them that you would like me to review it on my channel!
@@aaronshortmusic with pleasure ! (y) You're doing a great and honest reviews ! thks
Nice demo Aaron. I have have the exact same as you and have had problems with the sound quality of the B and low E
strings. I bought it from a shop many miles from where i live and had one delivered after testing in the shop. I have tried placing a piece of paper under the problem end of the saddle and have become so depressed about not getting the full potential from this baby. I search RUclips regularly for ideas, but I am no nearer the full sound I am looking for.
If you have any ideas I would be truly grateful.
I would suggest contacting Yamaha directly. Let me know if they are able to help you out.
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Ok..... Problem solved at last Aaron.
After banging my head against a brick wall for a week I decided to replace the Piezo pick up.with a Shadow SH099 undersaddle pick up and WOW..... this guitar is singing and playing studio class.
Anyone having the problem should try this. Remove the screws on the back, there is a + and - connection for the pick up - no plug. Connect the wires as they came out, and Bobs your Uncle.
You will need a small screwdriver for this operation.
Hope this helps anyone with the problem.
Dan Phillips Interesting! I’m glad you fixed it.
@@aaronshortmusic Thank you. Keep strumming and picking man.
Perfect if you wanna sound like a recording.
I recently picked up a SLG200S, and I like it a lot, but (1) even with the effects dialed all the way left, it still sounds like Reverb is on and not totally off. (2) as someone else mentioned, the EBG string volume is not as high as I feel it should be, and the bass side tend to over power. I've not checked the saddle yet to see if it and pickup are flat. Anyone else experience either of these? Otherwise, this is a super cool guitar, and shines when using headphones.
The mic image may make it feel like there is reverb on. Do you feel like there is still reverb even when the mic image is all the way off?
@@aaronshortmusic Yes exactly, I feel reverb is always on and not totally off. I've been trying to determine if this is normal to the modeling or if my guitar has issue. As best I can tell its the modeling because the effects otherwise adjust precisely as designed. Also, I have ordered a bone saddle to see if that fixes the EBG strings being less volume.
Shane Roberts Please keep us updated.
@@aaronshortmusic I installed a bone saddle, and night and day difference over the stock Urea nut which is molded. The bone definitely helped with the EBG volume issue now being very balanced across all strings, and overall the bass is less boomy and balanced across all strings. I do recommend this mod. The always on Reverb still there but the saddle swap is unrelated to any remediation of that annoyance which is slight and bearable.
@@aaronshortmusic I got the bone Yamaha saddle hear. I lowered and rolled sides and fit like a glove. www.guitarsaddles.com/pricing.asp
Thanks for the review. I am a beginner and my wife complains.
This would certainly solve that problem lol
@@aaronshortmusic Question: Why wouldn't I just use my electric guitar using my headphones connected to my
Monoprice Mini Headphone Amplifier for Guitar - Tube Overdrive
James Holloway You can do that but obviously it won’t have the sound or feel of an acoustic.
I thought you would play it
I got mine and first time on stage it sounded like a electric guitar a but tinny had I done a sound check I could have avoided it.
Yes I had the same experience and noticed that the pickup needs dialing in.
I’m thinking they could have added Bluetooth, metronome, and better batteries.
Maybe in the next version...
$729 now!
😮
Yeah, but does it feedback??😁
No, thankfully!!
But can it play Minecraft theme song ?
If YOU can then IT can.
You keep comparing it to an "expensive" guitar... but those Yamaha "Silent" guitars are expensive.
It’s all relative. They retail around $500. That’s a pretty good price for an electric-acoustic I think...
$650 is cheap compared to a $2800 nice Martin or Gibson, which is cheap compared to a to a $7000 nice Bourgeois or Collings. You can get a very nice Yamaha solid for that $650 that has great natural tone unplugged. The only advantage of the SRT is if you really need a guitar that breaks down into a relatively small package.
Frank Kolton Maybe ‘affordable’ would have been a better word!
@@frankkolton1780 Hi Frank … using the SLG200S as my travel guitar is the reason I purchased it. No body to be impacted due to changes in humidity/temps. I was using an Ovation but the bridge started to separate from the body. Plus the sound is good for what it is. I always do direct-in while recording electro-acoustics.
@@ScubaSteveCanada when you travel with it, do put it in the overhead compartment?
Talk so much
Thanks!
Hey mate,
Loved the video content. I've just picked one of these up too, as I travel for work.
I have a question I'm hoping you, or anyone else could answer.
Would you be able to use a VOX ac30 amplug 2 in conjunction with this?
Cheers,
Thank you! I don’t see why not. I was looking at the Fender Mustang Micro for the same reason and it has a ‘flat’ mode which would be great for acoustic.
Yeah, I wasn't sure if the circuitry inside the silent guitar, would interfere with the Headphone amp?
@@davidsharples4788 It’s possible. It really depends on the device you are using with it. I have not had an issue but the only way to really know is to try it. The other option is to use an extension cable to get more distance from the guitar itself.
@@aaronshortmusic Yeah good idea mate, that might be the way to go