Harley Benton DC Custom Demo
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Hey guys, in this video we take a look at the DC Custom by Harley Benton, a great guitar for not very much money. I put a link below to the guitar. I have been playing it for a few weeks now and It doesn't disappoint. Let me know what you think in the comments.
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As far as I know Thomann isn't using any "Knock off" brands.. They're using legit brands, but not the top quality available by those brands for the lower cost guitars. I've talked w/ a rep at Thomann and he has assured me that the guitars made in China aren't coming from the chops making the "knock offs" and the hardware they use are coming from the outsourced companies that make the hardware, same place most other legit brands are getting it from. People need to remember these aren't "Chibsons".. These are legit guitars using legit harware/electronics.
They sure seem legit
Nice, dude. I think people are starting to wake up to the fact that Harley Benton can actually be a stable, solid platform to make some music with...and if they aren't...MORE FOR ME!
Tuners are never the reason why guitars go out of tune. Strings stretch or bind in the nut when bent. Humidity changes the neck rigidity and curvature reacts under the conflicting pull of strings against truss rod. Tuners are just more or less precise (ratio) and pleasant to turn, that's all there is to them. Locking tuners allow for less winding around the post which is what removes the slow stretching of that part of the string and old split post tuners are doing just that too, no need to buy fancy hardware.
I got one two weeks ago. It's unbelievably good, and taught me that those Gibson and Fenders are charging 90 percent of their cost for that cool logo.
.... Your are the first one who s able to play the guitar...
so I could try to imagine the quality of the guitar
..... thank you.... 👍👍
Bought one today just for fun. Previous owner installed better pots (CTS tone & Bourns low torque on vol) and PIO caps. No more coil split but I'm okay with that. Very good guitar allround. I tried the older version with Wilkinson pickups stock and that one was also great. Just crazy how good it is for the price. No other guitar comes close. I have 33 guitars atm.
Roswells are legit pick up -- not generic. The brand is available in many music sites. Maybe not the best but not trash, either.
They sound pretty good to me. Not chnging them anytime soon.
Yeah those knobs are just wrong. Stick some Epiphone black fluted speed knobs on it. Maybe some locking tuners from Vanson, although the tuners it has are good, maybe replace the nut (the HB nut are always a bit too narrow) with a Graph tech Tusq. Check the frets with a fret rocker to see if any have not been pressed fully home. maybe change out the 16mm Alpha pots and the jack for higher quality parts (23mm Alpha pots even). Generally the Roswell pickups are great sounding, well made, pickups so unless you had a particular voicing in mind, I'd keep those. Roswell are not as far as I know affiliated with HB/Thomann, they are a Korean pickup maker that supplies pickups to many brands - you will find them in Squier guitars for example. You seem to be getting great sound out of the guitar and I think it looks really great.
Although this guitar looks like an SG copy, It’s actually more closely modeled after the ESP Viper which has the same knob and switch setup.
@@Cookie4yabro I think you're right. And I like it. For playing straight up rock I don't need four knobs, and they'll be on 10 all the time anyway ;-)
I have 2 Harley Benton guitars and a 3rd on the way. I have name brands too but the Harleys are fantastic and the first ones I pick up to play. By the way thanks for the demo and awesome playing. 🎶🎸🎵👏👏👏
They are Grover tuners, just not the best. The guitar sounds pretty good, but I'd like you to put your choice of pickup in there and then see it fly. Good video as always. Thanks Rich
I LOVE mine. The 24 frets on a double cut makes the usual 21st or 22nd really accessible, and it’s really versatile on tones and styles. There were a couple of faults when I got it, the push pull knob isn’t tight on and often comes off in use but I don’t use the split anyhow. There was also a loose pickup pole, but I will be replacing the pickups. Never thought of myself as an SG guy but I have to say I’d play these over single cuts any day. Much easier to solo on.
Guitars an absolute steal 👍🏻
Nice review! Man how can you go wrong for $200 and change? I've heard nothing but good things about these guitars. I like how the horns are slightly asymmetrical and I like the shape of the headstock too. Just a tad bit different than a Gibson SG. I may have to get one of these as an SG lover, it sounds amazing and it looks like it's pretty well made for the money. Thanks for the review
I love my Harley Benton DC Custom Cherry Electric SG Guitar! Awesome I only paid 130 bucks used one month old Wow what a deal I got. It plays like butter. I am already thinking about getting another HB guitar torn between the HB 70 and the HB 35
Amen brother, I’m over the gear snob thing. I might pick one of these up; I love my Harley Benton SC550ll, for $375 shipped from Germany with gigbag and stainless steel frets. I bought a Les Paul Standard from the Gibson store years ago in Nashville, this HB is just as good.
Dig your channel 👍
Just ordered the HB DC Custom from Thomann I’m hoping it’s as good as my SC550II
Just to follow up; I bought one of these guitars and have really enjoyed it. I did need to adjust the truss rod, lower the action a bit, changed out those ugly Tele knobs, and I put .009’s on it. Oh and the bridge posts started tilting forward coming out of the body so I shimmed the holes a bit and glued them in. Polished the fret and rounded the ends of the frets. So it’s been a good platform for me to learn a few set up techniques 👍
I still haven't pulled the trigger on ordering one of their lefty models but I'm getting more and more tempted. My problem is I love all eight of my guitars and really haven't found another one I want to add yet. Your playing is awesome, I think you could make a broom with a string on it sound good.
Haha, thanks.
Did you end up ordering one? I'm in the same position as you 😅
I have a couple of HB's and I love them, they are the ones I pick up most, thinking of buying one of these in Alpine White.. the ones I have are really very good quality. And they ship them to the UK for me.
Anyway, thanks for the demo, sounds damn good.
Welcome
Wow, sounds great!
Fabulous playin Rich! I think I’ll order one
Still one of my fav guitars. You'll like it.
@@RichBischoff just got an ST 62. Crazy high quality. Boggles my mind
Thanks for the great review! Peace.
Thanks!
I've only just worked out why Thomann did not make the body a direct SG copy. I didn't realise it's a 24 fret guitar. So it looks like they offset the lower horn a little further. That makes it a really interesting variant on the SG. As far as I know Gibson don't currently make a 24 fret SG, although they did in 2011.
Yeah, should have mentioned that in the video. I think it makes it a little different and unique.
@@RichBischoff Gibson have a habit of sueing others for copying their shapes so Thomann have done slight changes to the body of their DC and SC models. They also make interesting Rickenbacker-like models that are not copies at all but unmistakenly inspired by the aesthetics of said brand: RB-600, RB-612 (12-string) and the RB-414 bass.
Have you noticed Harley Benton moved the strap holder up to the top horn to compensate for neck dive? I wonder why Gibson and Epiphone didn’t think of it?
Awesome review man! Solid quality guitars for a fraction of the price of the big name brands. I have the DC Custom 612 double neck and love it. Keep on rocking 🤘🏻
Thanks!
Yes, these are of course giggable guitars. They're not going to fall apart mid-set. Making a good guitar is no rocket science, just wood and metal put together with primitive electronics. Only those who believe it is are willing to spend thousands on one. Even pick-ups are a simple thing: just a coil of wire above a magnet. It's like pizza, really, all you need to know is the basic recipe.
Another great demo video. I've always had a soft spot for the SG. Might have to add one of these to my next Thomann order.
On an unrelated note, I saw your tuning issues with the CST, and resultant hardtail fix. I put a graph tech tusq nut and cheap drop in locking tuners on mine, and she stays in tune great. These guitars generally have NO BUSINESS playing and sounding as good as they do for the money. 😎
I'm might have to try that when I get the time.
Great playing but most important of all, you're the first youtuber that make these Roswell pickups sound really good. They're mediocre pickups at best and I've been having a hard making them sound better than "just ok". Great job.
Thanks!
I beg to differ. These pickups sound a lot better than those in budget Epiphones and most other sub-400$ guitars.
@@coldwar1977 I agree. They sound better than my cheap Epiphone SG and Epiphone Dot semihollow that i had ten years ago. But that's because those were terrible pickups. These roswells are just alright, they won't blow your mind or anything but that's to be expected on a 200 dollar guitar. I'm definetly going to swap out the filtertron in my HB telecaster for a real filtertron.
This guitar really surprised me, it is so good. Including the pickups. I have three guitars with Seymour Duncan ‘59s and these Roswells are so close.
I still play mine all the time. The playability on it is excellent as well as the tone.
@@RichBischoff Out of all my guitars mine ended up playing at Church yesterday..
You are seriously good ..it sounds great..close to a Gibson SG sound too..
I'm getting one !
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Great Vid Rich! Either the Guitar really sounds Good or it’s your Performance that makes it sound Good......but it sounds GOOD!!! Does it have a 12 or 14” Radius? Please keep up the Good Work and Keep ‘em Comin’!!! Cheers from Ohio!!
The big hit with Harley Benton is in the USSA we pay thru nose for shipping.
I’m in the market for a couple of beaters for gig/traveling. I can put decent PU’s in the for cheap enough.
I’ve had a rash of thefts flying out of Newark from damn reason…….
Great guitar I bought one when lock down started and it gets played regularly.
Not as good as you play Rich .
Cool man!!! HB is killin it!
The tuners are definitely not Chinese knockoffs, I have some knock offs on a Chibson LP and the definition of the casting is terrible, I also have some which I purchased from my local music store and the ones on my HB's are exactly the same.
Good to know.
Wow! Only $200? Sign me up for that deal!
Nice playing☝️
Love your review! Well done. Do you notice any difference in sound, since the neck PU is located in a slightly closer-to-the-bridge position? And is it true that the neck feels a bit more stable than an regular Epi/Gib, due to the prolonged upper horn and the added frets? Very curious about that.
Theres a difference in tone, I didn't feel a difference in stability of the neck.
Great intro-outro and the guitar sounds like its handling really well.
Re pickups, like all budget guitars, the cost of the swap out is always worth it, while you own it.
side-note:
I swapped out some pots on an Ibanez which made a really surprising difference to the tone by themselves.
(still cant actually understand why)
maybe they used the wrong pots: the 250K are for single coils, the 500K are for humbuckers (I guess you already know it).
Try check the old ones if you still have 'em
Your comment about budget guitars and their pickups I think used to be universally true. However things are improving for some brands. Epiphone pickups are great and so are Roswell.
As far as pots and tone is concerned you can get quite a change in track resistance. Tolerances can be plus or minus 20%. Worst case from one pot to another that might be a 40% change. That much, or even a 20% change in pickup load is audible.
@@ResoBridge I think Roswell are ok as well (also have a HB) but I dont gig. I watch that famous auction site and it seems budget guitars with costly upgraded parts either struggle or don't fetch the expected value. So I guess that was my point with 'owning it'. Re pots, I had just a scratchy volume pot, I changed both (inc tone) like for like one at a time, but it was the volume pot that made a significant difference to the tone, which was very confusing, thanks for your explanation ;) I left the (Ibanez SA) pickups alone after that and remain happy.
@@MetalMike87 The guitar is a HSS and the pots were 500k, I did change like for like brand and size. I think Terry Relph-Knight (additional poster) has offered a possible explanation which might explain in my case. Have to say this was my first pot change so a bit clueless to the benefits. Thanks for the reply ;)
Hey Rich! Seveal months back I almost bought one of the 2020 Epiphone 62 releases, but I bought 2 Harley Bentons instead, and had money left over! I'm still not back in the USA 🤬, but when I do get back Leo and Dan Ryan, also of RUclips fame, are going to send me their DC Custom as a winner of one of their giveaways. I can't wait to rock out on some Back in Black and Crossroads!! Lol! The Dominican Republic government is supposed to be opening up the airports and everything else here very soon. But not soon enough, I am SICK of this place! I'd rather be in Utah! Lol! But home in Pa will do just fine.
Ted
Whoa, that's a long time to be stuck over there. Be safe man!
Sounds great to me !! 💕💕🎵🎸
I have a Slightly feeling that you like AC/DC
I want one, can i haz it? lol.
Being a married disabled vet, I don't have money for nice things. My water heater needs replaced, my dryer is busted and needs replaced and my stove is down to two burners... Or in other words, every penny I have is being saved for more important things than my own happiness of having a SG.. But life is nothing but a constant onslaught of wanting and never having, as I am sure everyone is mostly in the same situation. I would never buy a Gibson SG, though I would consider ether this one or a Epiphone SG. I have always wanted one, but got stuck with a dumpster Yamaha my sister found and its pickups don't even work lol. So some day Ill get ahead of things and get one, maybe by then the price will be reasonable for a guitar. .. Crap who cares, I am just typing at this point to talk to myself lol.
Lifes a pain, sorry man. You should try to save up for and inspired by gibson epiphone SG that just came out this year. www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EISS61MVCNH--epiphone-sg-standard-61-maestro-vibrola-vintage-cherry?mrkgadid=3344196793&mrkgcl=28&mrkgen=gpla&mrkgbflag=0&mrkgcat=guitars&&acctid=21700000001645388&dskeywordid=92700046938640951&dsproductgroupid=781937105198&product_id=EISS61MVCNH&lid=92700046938640951&ds_s_kwgid=58700005285225240&ds_s_inventory_feed_id=97700000007215323&prodctry=US&prodlang=en&channel=online&storeid={product_store_id}&device=m&network=g&matchtype=&locationid={loc_phyiscal_ms}&creative=360738227756&targetid=pla-781937105198&campaignid=2055912413&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI24C4iuSb6AIV5R-tBh0luAjuEAQYASABEgIPbPD_BwE
I'm torn I have room for only one more guitar at end of the month and it's either Harley Benton at dc this or the Harley Benton but red (not Brian May guitar😁) wish I could buy both but that's a massive no no due to space, what would you say is more versatile out of the two?
I'd try the double cut. That's just me.
@@RichBischoff it's looking that way to me as tone sounds better
i love mine
Very nice review. Could you tell me more about the neck ?
Is it a slim tapper or C or Chunky ?
It's a medium C. Not to chunky, but just right.
I want one, but I'm worried I'd get one with far too much wood grain showing thru, I've seen gud paint jobs like yrs n sum that look like 5 pieces of wood showing thru! Wondering if I can phone them and ask for one with minimal wood grain showing? 🤔🤔
I love Telecasters, but those tele style knobs don’t belong on this guitar, thinking of getting one, but I’d have to change those.
I changed mine. Amazon. Five bucks...
Website says the tone pot is a push/pull, is that set up so you know?
There is no push pull pot on this guitar, at least not the one I got. They my have changed it though.
Nice axe! \m/
pretty cool. MIC g-400. set.
Congratulations, no dislikes so far! That's a record for RUclips. Point well taken, I have three or four premium guitars, Gibsons, great guitars right now I'd rather have that guitar and $5000 in the bank.. it's like the Quest for tone, invest in yourself more than the hardware. But the hardware is cool....
do these guitars Neck Dive? i keep seeing reviews say they do. thanks
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Yes Oxen, if you play the guitar standing up (which most RUclips reviewers don't), you will find it virtually impossible to play, as you will be constantly fighting to keep the neck at a comfortable 45degree playing position, it just keeps sagging downwards. I tried Rich Bischoff's remedy (in another video) of adding wheel weights into the control cavity in the back of the guitar. This did help the problem, but I am still fighting with it. I guess my next venture will be to replace the heavy Grover tuners, with lighter tuners, so as to help to re-balance the weight distribution factor. Otherwise it is an amazing, well built SG type guitar, the attention to detail is great, the PU's are great, the materials are great, just a shame about the 'neck dive' problem.
pas un mot sur le très mauvais équilibrage de la guitare...dommage...c'est son seul point négatif....mais le principal truc à signaler dessus
Toutes les 'SG' sont mal équilibrées et piquent du nez, y compris les Gibson. Il est nécessaire de les lester au niveau du cache arrière p.ex. à l'aide de magnets autocollants. Cette guitare au rapport qualité/prix incroyable ne fait pas exception.
Sinon c est une bonne sg?
Par rapport à l epiphone sg 61??
It sounds pretty good for a cheap guitar but that top horn is the elephant in the room that you dont mention and makes the guitar completely unbalanced and destroys the aesthetic and visual appeal IMHO. Gibson and Fender worked out the best shapes for solid body guitars decades ago. The oversized horn was introduced by HB to avoid Gibson litigation and so they could sell in the US and any other claim HB make for why its there is disingenuous. There are other copyists like Vintage guitars for example who have had a go at the lower horn and lower bout this time to avoid the litigation but ended up creating an equally absurd looking guitar. You have to ask yourself if HB can make a good sounding guitar for peanuts and still make a profit how are Gibson getting away with charging so much for their offerings.
I actually think it looks cool, and different. Why does every guitar have to look just like a Gibson? This is cool looking guitar and affordable. Elephant in the room...Ha, that's a stretch! I've played it a lot, and never had anyone mention the top horn.
@@RichBischoff Because I think Gibson worked out the best aesthetically pleasing designs at the outset decades ago that haven't been bettered. The same could be said for the open book headstock design and the les Paul body shape which are others of many examples I could name. Its just a shame that Gibson protect their designs so vigorously in the USA with threats of litigation that reduces the opportunity for cheap copies to be made available to customers in the US.