I know right?! R6 is just to low and R5 is too high. Wheres the middle ground. Grrr. BTW, whats the point of crop sensors. I always found them annoying to keep track of, you had to buy certain lenses, and then convert mm, etc. non sense. So annoying to be honest. However, I suppose it could be like having a 35mm film vs 16mm (I think) back in those days. What am I missing?
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker I think it’ll be R7 for 7d equiv, then R80 for 80d (two digit) class and R900 (three digit) for the Digital Rebel equiv, which are three digit models in Japan. The EOS-M class is below the three digit class in quality and features.
My only concern is the worldwide microship shortage that has to have some sort of effect in the production and release of any of these cameras. Personally, I am eager to see the (alleged) R7 camera as it just might replace my 7D Mark II if the quality is what I anticipate it to be.
I don't expect a full frame camera lower than the R6. I think all the higher numbers to be APS-C like they did with DSLRs. I would also think they would add zeros to the more consumer & entry level cameras again like they did with DSLRs and they would be APS-C.
IMO the other APS-C cameras will be the R50 (play on the M50 naming) for vlogging & R100 for the entry level (ALA what the 90D successor would be called).
I am not sure even Canon have the resources to work on so many cameras at once when their focus is currently on the R3 then they need to follow up with a R1.
Finally rumors start going around about the R7! As soon as the R7 drops, my 90D gets traded for it! Seeing how wildlife is my main subject, it's the most logical upgrade until I get the resources to justify an R6
@@Ankh-Amun-Ra Wouldn't that give the same issues that the 90D suffers from? Such as a really really tight pixel density, which in turn demands more expensive glass and more demanding resolving power?
@@Ankh-Amun-Ra That's true, but it'll still perform good with the adapter to EF lenses. Also, as the market grows, third-party lenses will become more available and will push the prices down. But yes, the RF-lenses are, however great, ridiculously expensive.
3:10 is what I went through recently but I wanted full frame. For my budget, R and RP were my only options at that price range with Canon. I wasn't invested in expensive glass so I had to either go all out with the R6 and RF lenses or try Sony with the A7C which I ended up doing. I've shot Canon since the Rebel XT but over the years, the typical crippling of certain cameras gets tiresome. I may look at Canon again when the R lines are settled and more glass available. I'll enjoy my A7C for now and the one lens mount system vs 4 of Canon's hahaha! Anyway, I'll enjoy my A7C while I watch the crazy mess Canon has made for themselves. As for the rants and the fluff, who cares, too many people are in a rush to just get the content they want and bounce, then there are others that appreciate all the hard work, effort and insight you put into these videos. Keep it going bud, always look forward to your videos!
I also think it would make more sense if Canon call camera between EOS R and R6 to be R7 but it still questions 7D mark II replacement but I would like to see 1 digit series to be all full frame. So R8 could be RP replacement with electronic viewfinder and R9 very simple, Rangefinder style and maybe with tiny viewfinder like Sony A7C. Canon R10 could be replacement for 90D. Well, we will see and it is very interesting what Canon will offer to us. They are little bit late but still look like to be on the right direction.
You would think that Canon would have a different naming convention, between their full frame and aps-c cameras. This would be very confusing in my opinion if they just had R (number) for both.
I don't mind the delay in information at all. I generally watch your videos when i get home from work and don't scour the rumor sites. Also, 22k subscribers is a stadium of people, if you don't grow larger you still have a large reach and an impact on a lot of people.
If you want a crop sensor camera, just buy the R6. Change the mode to shoot at 1.6x magnification and shoot to your heart's content. When you want to shoot "normal", then change it back to shoot full-frame. There, I just saved you a couple of thousand dollars. Wham Bam thank you Ma'am!
The question here is whether Canon goes with an industry standard APS-C and its 1.5 crop and standard sensors or go with the proprietary APS-H and its odd 1.6 crop and lose pixels outside the smaller image circle. If the former you would need to mask off pixels outside image circle of an EF-M lens.
Do you really need another full frame mirrorless body after the R6? Is already on a low res sensor at 20 MP, how much more can they cripple it? I can't see it. I think they are saying if you can't afford a full frame, then get our new top-of-the-line APS-C mirrorless R7.
In my opinion, canon is just gonna leave rp and R out of the system, they were just starters and they get update and improved in numbered models such as r1/5/6 and etc.
I'd love to see a APS-C r-mount camera. Took my R6 to the zoo (finally out of lockdown and open again!).. and boy do I miss the extra reach the 1.6x crop gives you. And the 800 f/11 (which I'm probably going to need to pick up sooner or later..) on an APS-C? That's 1280mm! As for your question at the end of the video: 6 or 12 hours doesn't make a difference whatsoever for me. I prefer quality over speed or quantity. Maybe for creators, the Almighty RUclips Algorithm (r) doesn't reward that, but.. RUclips's interests don't align with mine in this regard.
I'm looking for a backup camera to my R5. Should I wait for the new APC's mentioned in this video or the new EOS RP/R? I plan to use it more for videography than photography. Great video as usual Simon!
If Canon are going to basically abandon the EF-M mount (which they should), I presume they will develop an EF-M/RF adapter so they don't totally orphan their significant user base of EF-M users, giving them a bridge to the RF system with their current lenses. As for nomenclature: maybe Canon could go into a letter-only system for lower-level FF bodies, such as RA, RB, etc. I mean, where exactly did "RP" come from, anyway?
I was hoping for an entry level full frame camera also, personally I think that should be the R8 or R9 and I would not include a vlogging camera in with the R name I would market that one differently, but that's just me lol
If Canon want to release R-series APS-C cameras they better release som RF APS-C lenses too. With crop factor of 1.6 the only RF-lens that's a bit wide is 15-35 f2.8 and it is both big, heavy and expensive.
For sure, it's easier to shot video on those. The R5 has a cropped mode, but a good full sensor cropped sensor can do wonders. They also cost a whole lot less. More isn't always better.
Seems like the Canon R and Canon RP were glorified prototype cameras - I don't see them making a Canon R MkII = where does that sit with respect to the R6 and R5 - between these two products that Canon R has no place. The RP has a place as an entry level full frame, so maybe they could make an RP MkII and just let the RP MK III, IV etc. etc. always be the cheap entry level FF - who knows. I'd say Canon R is definitely dead though - no point in making a Mk II of that with the current product line.
Also, it seems that the R5 is the continuation of the 5D line and the R6 is the continuation of the 6D line - so the R7 will likely be the continuation of the 7D line (which I believe is APS-C).
As long as we get the news I dont mind if its a little late :) as regards the numbering the 7D was APS so that works but maybe the R and RP will be R60 ?
Hi Simon, I personally have no issue with getting news a bit later. I would prefer it since it would allow you to verify sources, construct more reliable reporting and more importantly have a life. Since these days there are chip shortages and other global factors that require a heck of a lot of lead time to get products to market, the vast majority of the time we can't action on most of the hyped up news. Even if we had the cash available to jump all over an opportunity, odds are we have to wait. In my mind, I'd rather get solid, reliable information, even if they are rumors, that are at least solid or go through some vetting over time (even if it's just a few extra hours). To me what you bring to the table is genuineness and integrity to the news and rumors. I feel very comfortable knowing that you take your channel seriously, but more importantly take life seriously with integrity and common sense. I have never seen you click-bait or try to fool people into subscribing or mislead them to create more likes. You may not be growing at the rates that you were before, but I believe you have a very solid base because of your character and content. In time, events and circumstances will allow you to grow, but I don't believe you'll ever be going in the opposite direction and lose subscribers. Keep up the great work and take care of yourself and your family. Thanks again Simon! Take Care!
It is confusing. Lower # is usually higher performance, but look at 60D, 70D, 80D, and 90D, and Rebels as well. Good video Simon! :D PS. Post as much or little as you like, I enjoy all your vids.
If the Canon r5 is not the right camera to do what you do.. why don't you get the Sony like you mentioned? Or use a different Canon camera? Use the right tool. If the R5 is not the right tool, sell it and get the right tool. I have an R5 and it works great for what I do but if it didn't I don't care what brand it was, I would get what worked.
Don't waste your time with 8K, there is too little available equipment at this point. Plus the computer overhead is too much. Downscale 5-6 K to 4K and we will notice. 8K? On what monitor and maybe what T1 line with a static IP? .... Next year-sure. Oh and as far as the rumors...think an EOS RP for $1500. With a crop sensor. And wonky AF. And I own one (RP - I basically love it but boy oh boy did they limit it). Keep on keeping on! I think the YT algorithm is messing up my subscription channels alot. My favorite channels (yours included) are NOT coming up as often. The level of junk is also much higher.
The M Series has been popular in other parts of the world. It competes very well against the Sony A6xxx Series. I have always felt the R5 was the successor to the R, and R6 was the successor to the RP. Those camera naming conventions, R7, R8, R9, are not consistent with Canon’s apparent naming convention for DSLRs. Where are we stuck on digits?
In my experience with shooting with Canon DSLRs for over a decade, Canon bodies tend to over-expose by 1/3 of a stop. Test this out. Ignore the histograms for a moment. How does video look with -1/3 exposure compensation?
I hear what you are saying about the studio always being the same. Finally got my Wives studios setup. I enjoyed helping her get it all setup... got boring quick. You need to get out and shoot to wet your camera appetite. BTW your Apple rant is where I am too. I am sick of waiting for a more powerful setup. And like you 13" is to small. So I just ordered a (Gasp) Windows laptop. Maybe I will be blown away by the new Apple chips but I am getting a bit concerned, and I do think the price will be in the mid 3k range. Also you telling me about your struggles with the R5 being over your head is why I joined this channel. You think an "Ordinary Filmmaker" can just jump behind any camera and make it work perfect??? Well NOT me that's for sure. We all just have to keep getting better and better each time. Pushing more and more every video. Unless your OneShot and then you can just retire with perfection.
unless you give up your day job, producing a video a day is hard. Even Chris and Jordon doesn't produce more than a few videos a week. Enjoy the summer maybe we can go meet up and do some real filmmaking in the city.
These names don't make sense for APS-C. Canon's way would be two digits for cropped sensors like R30, R50, R70, etc. During the last year, rumors were mostly wrong. They missed R3 in a big way and no indication of imminent release of cheaper RP mark ii or another high megapixel camera yet. In my opinion R5 remains a megapixel monster line and R6 will be its poor's man companion. R3 and R1 would be the speed and sport championships. But at this point of time, I bet even Canon doesn't know whether they would merge them in the future or keep them distinct lines. It will all depend on technological advancements and manufacturing costs but probably R1 will get a global shutter. We will see an R1 whenever that technology becomes commercially available. R7 will be the EOS R replacement for enthusiasts and R8 will be the new RP for entry level.
All I want is a EOS R with no 4K crop and 60fps 4k as well as IBIS,,, That would be my ideal camera. 📷
I know right?! R6 is just to low and R5 is too high. Wheres the middle ground. Grrr. BTW, whats the point of crop sensors. I always found them annoying to keep track of, you had to buy certain lenses, and then convert mm, etc. non sense. So annoying to be honest. However, I suppose it could be like having a 35mm film vs 16mm (I think) back in those days. What am I missing?
exactly, but they never will, we all know that.
The only similar camera at that price range is the s5 but then again its AF is still DFD based!
They should call their APS-C cameras R70, 80, and 90.
Totally agree.
Yes we need 200d 1000d 4000d replacement
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker I think it’ll be R7 for 7d equiv, then R80 for 80d (two digit) class and R900 (three digit) for the Digital Rebel equiv, which are three digit models in Japan. The EOS-M class is below the three digit class in quality and features.
Keep up the good work, we DO appreciate all the hard work that goes into it.
I appreciate that!
Getting rid of the EF-M system makes sense given there is so little talk or investment. The future is in the R system.
This will create a lot of deals on the market for EFM used bodies. The M5 was under-rated for photography on a budget.
I appreciate all the informational videos. Thank you 😊
I am exited to see the new Canon cameras!
It will be a great line up! 📸
I am only interested into the R7 as a Wildlife photographer.
My only concern is the worldwide microship shortage that has to have some sort of effect in the production and release of any of these cameras. Personally, I am eager to see the (alleged) R7 camera as it just might replace my 7D Mark II if the quality is what I anticipate it to be.
I think that is why there is the rumor the production of the R7, R8, R9 line(s) has been scrapped.
off topic but I picked up a RF 100-500 at Downtown camera after hearing about them from your channel. Patrick says HI :)
I like the new relaxed approach and reduced frequency. You look very happy
I am! This is the way to go.
I don't expect a full frame camera lower than the R6. I think all the higher numbers to be APS-C like they did with DSLRs. I would also think they would add zeros to the more consumer & entry level cameras again like they did with DSLRs and they would be APS-C.
I want the R8 number! PERFECT!
IMO the other APS-C cameras will be the R50 (play on the M50 naming) for vlogging & R100 for the entry level (ALA what the 90D successor would be called).
I am not sure even Canon have the resources to work on so many cameras at once when their focus is currently on the R3 then they need to follow up with a R1.
Finally rumors start going around about the R7! As soon as the R7 drops, my 90D gets traded for it! Seeing how wildlife is my main subject, it's the most logical upgrade until I get the resources to justify an R6
I like the R6 too. But the 20MP is a big drawback for me. Rather go for a R7 with (hopefully) 32MP like the 90D.
@@Ankh-Amun-Ra Wouldn't that give the same issues that the 90D suffers from? Such as a really really tight pixel density, which in turn demands more expensive glass and more demanding resolving power?
@@1mpulseS0D If the R7 has a RF mount, lenses will already be super expensive I’m afraid.
@@Ankh-Amun-Ra That's true, but it'll still perform good with the adapter to EF lenses. Also, as the market grows, third-party lenses will become more available and will push the prices down. But yes, the RF-lenses are, however great, ridiculously expensive.
Beatiful day and good news, thank you Simón. 🌋☕🌴📸☀️👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it
3:10 is what I went through recently but I wanted full frame. For my budget, R and RP were my only options at that price range with Canon. I wasn't invested in expensive glass so I had to either go all out with the R6 and RF lenses or try Sony with the A7C which I ended up doing. I've shot Canon since the Rebel XT but over the years, the typical crippling of certain cameras gets tiresome. I may look at Canon again when the R lines are settled and more glass available. I'll enjoy my A7C for now and the one lens mount system vs 4 of Canon's hahaha! Anyway, I'll enjoy my A7C while I watch the crazy mess Canon has made for themselves. As for the rants and the fluff, who cares, too many people are in a rush to just get the content they want and bounce, then there are others that appreciate all the hard work, effort and insight you put into these videos. Keep it going bud, always look forward to your videos!
Sony doesn't have the best detail, but they have a very good user experience. They've made some great improvements.
I also think it would make more sense if Canon call camera between EOS R and R6 to be R7 but it still questions 7D mark II replacement but I would like to see 1 digit series to be all full frame. So R8 could be RP replacement with electronic viewfinder and R9 very simple, Rangefinder style and maybe with tiny viewfinder like Sony A7C. Canon R10 could be replacement for 90D. Well, we will see and it is very interesting what Canon will offer to us. They are little bit late but still look like to be on the right direction.
You would think that Canon would have a different naming convention, between their full frame and aps-c cameras. This would be very confusing in my opinion if they just had R (number) for both.
What lens type will the new apsc carry?
The Same R system.
Ah ok I thought I can used the old apsc canon version
More anticipation! Good job.
I don't mind the delay in information at all. I generally watch your videos when i get home from work and don't scour the rumor sites. Also, 22k subscribers is a stadium of people, if you don't grow larger you still have a large reach and an impact on a lot of people.
I know. It's nothing to get disappointed over. Still lots of fun.
Need a 7dmkii replacement but with the R5 af and 90d pixels
The lighting/exposure on this video looks great. Were you using a fill light?
Yes, but a very low powered one. It brought things up a little. I brought up the highlights in post clipping a little in the plants
If you want a crop sensor camera, just buy the R6. Change the mode to shoot at 1.6x magnification and shoot to your heart's content. When you want to shoot "normal", then change it back to shoot full-frame. There, I just saved you a couple of thousand dollars. Wham Bam thank you Ma'am!
Simon, thanks for the exciting content.
Greetings from the foothills of Mt. Fuji
One day Peter, I[ll visit Mt Fuji with my family. We'll have to have tea together.
Simon, you are welcome to the foothills of Mt. Fuji any time!
I'll wait let it come.
The question here is whether Canon goes with an industry standard APS-C and its 1.5 crop and standard sensors or go with the proprietary APS-H and its odd 1.6 crop and lose pixels outside the smaller image circle. If the former you would need to mask off pixels outside image circle of an EF-M lens.
the naming is kind of all over the place it makes sense if you have been following canon.
Do you really need another full frame mirrorless body after the R6? Is already on a low res sensor at 20 MP, how much more can they cripple it? I can't see it. I think they are saying if you can't afford a full frame, then get our new top-of-the-line APS-C mirrorless R7.
In my opinion, canon is just gonna leave rp and R out of the system, they were just starters and they get update and improved in numbered models such as r1/5/6 and etc.
I'd love to see a APS-C r-mount camera.
Took my R6 to the zoo (finally out of lockdown and open again!).. and boy do I miss the extra reach the 1.6x crop gives you.
And the 800 f/11 (which I'm probably going to need to pick up sooner or later..) on an APS-C? That's 1280mm!
As for your question at the end of the video: 6 or 12 hours doesn't make a difference whatsoever for me. I prefer quality over speed or quantity. Maybe for creators, the Almighty RUclips Algorithm (r) doesn't reward that, but.. RUclips's interests don't align with mine in this regard.
I'm looking for a backup camera to my R5. Should I wait for the new APC's mentioned in this video or the new EOS RP/R? I plan to use it more for videography than photography. Great video as usual Simon!
I'd consider the entry level Rp replacement or the one above it... I hope we get some announcements in the next three months.
If Canon are going to basically abandon the EF-M mount (which they should), I presume they will develop an EF-M/RF adapter so they don't totally orphan their significant user base of EF-M users, giving them a bridge to the RF system with their current lenses. As for nomenclature: maybe Canon could go into a letter-only system for lower-level FF bodies, such as RA, RB, etc. I mean, where exactly did "RP" come from, anyway?
I was hoping for an entry level full frame camera also, personally I think that should be the R8 or R9 and I would not include a vlogging camera in with the R name I would market that one differently, but that's just me lol
Canon 90d replacement
Canon EOS R10 1000$
32MP 4K 30P IBIS
cripple hammer
No more than 30 minutes
Only IPB (hope not )
No 10 BIT (maybe external )
Possibly.
Waiting for a Canon APS-C with RF lenses... 😊
If Canon want to release R-series APS-C cameras they better release som RF APS-C lenses too. With crop factor of 1.6 the only RF-lens that's a bit wide is 15-35 f2.8 and it is both big, heavy and expensive.
I'm glad to see Canon really going for it!! And great shirt BTW.
Will anybody buy cropped sensors when the push and price of full frame is falling
There are people that need a 1.5 or 1.6 crop for 100-400 or 70-300
@@maortheyoungcameraguy175 Most friends that had cropped moved up to full frame
For sure, it's easier to shot video on those. The R5 has a cropped mode, but a good full sensor cropped sensor can do wonders. They also cost a whole lot less. More isn't always better.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker good point
Seems like the Canon R and Canon RP were glorified prototype cameras - I don't see them making a Canon R MkII = where does that sit with respect to the R6 and R5 - between these two products that Canon R has no place. The RP has a place as an entry level full frame, so maybe they could make an RP MkII and just let the RP MK III, IV etc. etc. always be the cheap entry level FF - who knows. I'd say Canon R is definitely dead though - no point in making a Mk II of that with the current product line.
Also, it seems that the R5 is the continuation of the 5D line and the R6 is the continuation of the 6D line - so the R7 will likely be the continuation of the 7D line (which I believe is APS-C).
That's possible, but the rumours are bouncing into each other. Let's wait and hear if these get validated first.
What’s kind of filter u used? Background looks so good!
No filter at all ;)
As long as we get the news I dont mind if its a little late :) as regards the numbering the 7D was APS so that works but maybe the R and RP will be R60 ?
That would make sense... R60, R70, R80... I like that.
Hi Simon, I personally have no issue with getting news a bit later. I would prefer it since it would allow you to verify sources, construct more reliable reporting and more importantly have a life. Since these days there are chip shortages and other global factors that require a heck of a lot of lead time to get products to market, the vast majority of the time we can't action on most of the hyped up news. Even if we had the cash available to jump all over an opportunity, odds are we have to wait. In my mind, I'd rather get solid, reliable information, even if they are rumors, that are at least solid or go through some vetting over time (even if it's just a few extra hours). To me what you bring to the table is genuineness and integrity to the news and rumors. I feel very comfortable knowing that you take your channel seriously, but more importantly take life seriously with integrity and common sense. I have never seen you click-bait or try to fool people into subscribing or mislead them to create more likes. You may not be growing at the rates that you were before, but I believe you have a very solid base because of your character and content. In time, events and circumstances will allow you to grow, but I don't believe you'll ever be going in the opposite direction and lose subscribers. Keep up the great work and take care of yourself and your family. Thanks again Simon! Take Care!
It is confusing. Lower # is usually higher performance, but look at 60D, 70D, 80D, and 90D, and Rebels as well. Good video Simon! :D PS. Post as much or little as you like, I enjoy all your vids.
In all honesty...I LOVE ALL MY EF MOUNT! Got 20 L Series and keeping all of them! 👍
i’d think about the R7 if it looks to compete and beat the xt-series from fuji but i highly doubt it will do that
Maybe the R-Alpha 7 lol
R7a would be better
👍👍👍
R8 will be fullframe!
don't mind waiting
Are we ever getting the free r5 sweepstakes camera from this channel?
If I ever get to 100K, but its not looking so good.
I just want Canon to make a Rangefinder style with an RF mount.
If the Canon r5 is not the right camera to do what you do.. why don't you get the Sony like you mentioned? Or use a different Canon camera? Use the right tool. If the R5 is not the right tool, sell it and get the right tool. I have an R5 and it works great for what I do but if it didn't I don't care what brand it was, I would get what worked.
Don't waste your time with 8K, there is too little available equipment at this point. Plus the computer overhead is too much. Downscale 5-6 K to 4K and we will notice. 8K? On what monitor and maybe what T1 line with a static IP? .... Next year-sure.
Oh and as far as the rumors...think an EOS RP for $1500. With a crop sensor. And wonky AF.
And I own one (RP - I basically love it but boy oh boy did they limit it).
Keep on keeping on! I think the YT algorithm is messing up my subscription channels alot.
My favorite channels (yours included) are NOT coming up as often. The level of junk is also much higher.
The M Series has been popular in other parts of the world. It competes very well against the Sony A6xxx Series.
I have always felt the R5 was the successor to the R, and R6 was the successor to the RP.
Those camera naming conventions, R7, R8, R9, are not consistent with Canon’s apparent naming convention for DSLRs. Where are we stuck on digits?
In my experience with shooting with Canon DSLRs for over a decade, Canon bodies tend to over-expose by 1/3 of a stop.
Test this out. Ignore the histograms for a moment. How does video look with -1/3 exposure compensation?
I didn’t watch the previous video. It said not to watch. It was probably canon rumors info anyways. I just went to canon rumors site instead.
Just give us a new R5 that does not overheat and some more affordable lenses that arent garbage like their stm ones.
I hear what you are saying about the studio always being the same. Finally got my Wives studios setup. I enjoyed helping her get it all setup... got boring quick. You need to get out and shoot to wet your camera appetite.
BTW your Apple rant is where I am too. I am sick of waiting for a more powerful setup. And like you 13" is to small. So I just ordered a (Gasp) Windows laptop. Maybe I will be blown away by the new Apple chips but I am getting a bit concerned, and I do think the price will be in the mid 3k range.
Also you telling me about your struggles with the R5 being over your head is why I joined this channel. You think an "Ordinary Filmmaker" can just jump behind any camera and make it work perfect??? Well NOT me that's for sure. We all just have to keep getting better and better each time. Pushing more and more every video. Unless your OneShot and then you can just retire with perfection.
unless you give up your day job, producing a video a day is hard. Even Chris and Jordon doesn't produce more than a few videos a week. Enjoy the summer maybe we can go meet up and do some real filmmaking in the city.
When I get the 85mm, we will get to gather for sure. Not sure when its arriving though.
These names don't make sense for APS-C. Canon's way would be two digits for cropped sensors like R30, R50, R70, etc. During the last year, rumors were mostly wrong. They missed R3 in a big way and no indication of imminent release of cheaper RP mark ii or another high megapixel camera yet. In my opinion R5 remains a megapixel monster line and R6 will be its poor's man companion. R3 and R1 would be the speed and sport championships. But at this point of time, I bet even Canon doesn't know whether they would merge them in the future or keep them distinct lines. It will all depend on technological advancements and manufacturing costs but probably R1 will get a global shutter. We will see an R1 whenever that technology becomes commercially available. R7 will be the EOS R replacement for enthusiasts and R8 will be the new RP for entry level.
R7………
Get away from the Crapple.
Sorry Simon: I am so glad that I switched from Canon to Sony. Canon promises a lot of new things and delivers nothing useful.
Depends on what you need. For video, I can definitely see the benefits of Sony, just can't afford to keep both platforms ;)