These enlargers are so rare.. I used to work for my dad who owned what was called a trade shop, which is another word for a prep house, what we did was make 4 color separations from film transparencies and reflective art... And we would make final films for commercial printing companies so they could make printing plates for their presses.. I think the enlarger you have here is the same we had. I do remember it was made in Italy and it looks about the same size... At the very top it was ducted to use a high-velocity fan to remove the heat from the light source.. and was very loud.... The lenses were very expensive, we had three, the largest one was over $10,000 back in 1977 !. We purchased the enlarger, lenses and exposure timing computer at printing graphics show in Chicago for $80,000 , which was an enormous amount of money back then.. Besides the enlarger we also had two 48 inch Robertson horizontal cameras, each of them were 20 ft long in separate rooms and each had their own darkroom. Those were also used for making color separations, from reflective art, and used to backlighting when making separations from transparencies.. One camera dark room had a 30ft long temperature-controlled sink for tray developing and built-in water proof light table , while the other camera darkroom had access to a separate darkroom which had a 48 in Log E film processor, and additional Dupont film processor.. The enlarger room had its own Kodak continuous tone film processor... Anyways, I'm glad to see that you found one to be repurposed for your needs and saved it from being scrapped...
Seeing this very video, about two years ago I guess, planted this seed in my mind: how cool would it be to have my own darkroom again, and a big enlarger! Fast forward: a week ago, I picked up an old Durst 8x10 enlarger with a diffusor (cold light) head. It was too big for my darkroom, so now I'm moving the darkroom to the garage. I ordered some graded paper and film from Foma, so very soon I'll be able to print my own large format negatives. Living the dream! Thanks for the inspiration Lina :-)
Back in the 60's every US Air Force photo lab I worked in had a 8x10 diffusion enlarger. They were huge but simple machines. In Viet Nam we Durst 8x10 enlargers that also took 9x9 inch aerial negs.
Thanks for sharing the experience of transporting and refurbishing these enlargers. It is great that someone saved them from the inevitable trash heap.
Ansel will be proud of you. The next step now is to mix green and blue LED in the head so you can do remote split printing from a console like the Ilford Multigrade head. You could also wire the led in such a fashion that they could be turned on and of by section to dodge and burn from the head directly. Perfect for limited editions. Ansel had such a head and Saltzman 8x10 enlargers worked that way. You are my hero. Great and amazing endeavour.
That's not for "typography" but lithography. They were used for colour separations, the large "negative carrier" is used to gang up transparencies to do multiple separation in one go.
Both enlargers were "living"in a "tipografia", which I translated to English as "typography"- I later realized that's not correct. In Italian it means "a printing house/place". They were doing posters, newspapers, books etc.
@@linabessonova Most of this stuff ended up in the tip-o-graphy. Big shame but the era is gone. That would be a good enlarger for doing enlarged contact sheets.
Fantastic video, just came back from Florence Italy, wonderful place and people. Not been in a dark room since college...over 10 years ago now :( still miss it.
I was a photographer in the US Marines in the 60s and we had an 8X10in enlarger for printing b&w aerial photos. I'm 6'3" and this thing was taller than me. The ceiling had to be punched out to handle this monster. Processing the prints was a two man job and drying them was a total pain. We couldn't us the drum roller dryer for these prints.They had to be put on the finishing table and left to dry over night.
Congratulations! My biggest was for 4x5 (9x12?). I was a dwarf, compared to you and Messimo! It said it all, when the electric guy made sign of the Cross, as he switched it on! I am waiting to see when you print!I think best video ever! Bravo! Bravo!
Hi Lina, I enjoyed your video ! About 25 years ago I picked up an enlarger at a church sale for $5.00 it included just about everything I needed,the only modification I made was to change out the riser pole so I could do bigger enlargements (that is after the head stopped shaking). I was able at the time to do professional wedding as well as portrait photography. And yes I did very well! Have you ever considered doing portraits in your area?
Yes there is nothing like the smell of photo paper....chemicals.......film........people that ONLY use PCs/electronic cameras will never know what they are missing.........I started in 1968......can still remember the excitement of my 1sr print.
In addition to printing from 11x14’’ negatives, I guess you could use the Monster to make enlarged “contact” sheets from 35mm or 120 roll film? Especially for 35mm film, I am sure there is a market 😉
I think I'm lucky having a Durst M305, but I want to upgrade to a colour medium format. So let me get this right, you have an amazing talent, you have an incredible worth ethic and you are intelligent enough to do a master's and you speak at least three languages? You have an amazing future ahead of you and you are going to cross more frontiers than just physical ones. The world could truly do with a few more like you.
great video, and by the way, what commenters are saying is not technically correct, as from my research in to all forms of paper printing (newspapers, etc.) this is just one method of making the "plate", ie if it was metal, you would do by acid etching, clay -you would lino-cut the plate, but for silkscreen (teashirts), and some Gelitin ofset press plates, you photo print the design, then photo-chemically expose the design onto the "master plate" so this needs similar gear to wet photography darkroom process. but the idea of 'typography" is the making of the lead typewriter keys, used as puzzle pieces to form a printing plate, used in press work, and this was the main-stay of this occupation,type setters, the operation of the machinery which cast the pieces out of lead, to feed the newspaper presses with the type to make their stories with.
I would like to know which LED-stripes do you use? I'm going to build my own 8x10 inch enlarger as well as refurbishing my Laborator 138 with a new lightsource so I'm looking for those you use inside your 'monster' ;)
Now if I could only get you guys to come fix our 8x10 here in New Orleans................................................... i can dream right but seriously that is a great looking machine though
it turned out not very fine, hard to get to grade 4.5 even, let alone 5. I experimented with different LED lights and eventually moved to a completely different light source :)
Ух ты, какой красавец! Когда-нибудь и я с Крокуса своего слезу :) А что за итальянский аналог ибея? Я в Италии часто бываю. Может, закуплюсь в следующий раз.
Привет. А что это за лаборатория будет? Посмотрел Ваши видео, но совсем понимаю. В некоторых слышу родную речь и узнаю некоторые места, а на других нет. Такие увеличители Вы не у нас собираете? Что за проект)?
Я все никак не сделаю русские субтитры, а надо)) Место действия в этом видео - Флоренция, Италия. Нашли онлайн огромный старый типографский увеличитель 30х40, под него оборудовали даркрум, нашли второй.... По сути просто лабораторию себе сделали с двумя монстрами :))
Да, я за субтитры). На русском практически нет видео по форматным камерам. Хочется узнать больше. Посоветоваться по некоторым вопросам. Я сам тоже увлекаюсь большим форматом. Вот печатаю портреты на DE VERE 504, но пока на просрочке от Славича Бромэкспресс 400 ПЭ 50*60см. Хочу вот размер отпечатка от метра по короткой сделать, но не могу найти такой бумаги(.
These enlargers are so rare.. I used to work for my dad who owned what was called a trade shop, which is another word for a prep house, what we did was make 4 color separations from film transparencies and reflective art... And we would make final films for commercial printing companies so they could make printing plates for their presses..
I think the enlarger you have here is the same we had. I do remember it was made in Italy and it looks about the same size... At the very top it was ducted to use a high-velocity fan to remove the heat from the light source.. and was very loud.... The lenses were very expensive, we had three, the largest one was over $10,000 back in 1977 !.
We purchased the enlarger, lenses and exposure timing computer at printing graphics show in Chicago for $80,000 , which was an enormous amount of money back then..
Besides the enlarger we also had two 48 inch Robertson horizontal cameras, each of them were 20 ft long in separate rooms and each had their own darkroom. Those were also used for making color separations, from reflective art, and used to backlighting when making separations from transparencies.. One camera dark room had a 30ft long temperature-controlled sink for tray developing and built-in water proof light table , while the other camera darkroom had access to a separate darkroom which had a 48 in Log E film processor, and additional Dupont film processor.. The enlarger room had its own Kodak continuous tone film processor...
Anyways, I'm glad to see that you found one to be repurposed for your needs and saved it from being scrapped...
Seeing this very video, about two years ago I guess, planted this seed in my mind: how cool would it be to have my own darkroom again, and a big enlarger! Fast forward: a week ago, I picked up an old Durst 8x10 enlarger with a diffusor (cold light) head. It was too big for my darkroom, so now I'm moving the darkroom to the garage. I ordered some graded paper and film from Foma, so very soon I'll be able to print my own large format negatives. Living the dream! Thanks for the inspiration Lina :-)
You are the queen of the castle, they get anything you ask :-)
Back in the 60's every US Air Force photo lab I worked in had a 8x10 diffusion enlarger. They were huge but simple machines. In Viet Nam we Durst 8x10 enlargers that also took 9x9 inch aerial negs.
Thanks for sharing the experience of transporting and refurbishing these enlargers. It is great that someone saved them from the inevitable trash heap.
I also think of the project as saving the enlargers :) :)
What an absolutely beautiful room... inviting all manners of inspiration!
Congrats, Lina! Saving these huge machines from the immemorial dust is amazing. It deserves to be well used.
Ansel will be proud of you. The next step now is to mix green and blue LED in the head so you can do remote split printing from a console like the Ilford Multigrade head. You could also wire the led in such a fashion that they could be turned on and of by section to dodge and burn from the head directly. Perfect for limited editions. Ansel had such a head and Saltzman 8x10 enlargers worked that way. You are my hero. Great and amazing endeavour.
That's not for "typography" but lithography. They were used for colour separations, the large "negative carrier" is used to gang up transparencies to do multiple separation in one go.
Both enlargers were "living"in a "tipografia", which I translated to English as "typography"- I later realized that's not correct. In Italian it means "a printing house/place". They were doing posters, newspapers, books etc.
@@linabessonova Most of this stuff ended up in the tip-o-graphy. Big shame but the era is gone.
That would be a good enlarger for doing enlarged contact sheets.
You're absolutely correct, because I used to use one like this to do color separations used for commercial printing
Fantastic video, just came back from Florence Italy, wonderful place and people. Not been in a dark room since college...over 10 years ago now :( still miss it.
Ah I can't imagine being without a darkroom for that long! Happy you liked it here, the place is fantastic indeed :)
I was a photographer in the US Marines in the 60s and we had an 8X10in enlarger for printing b&w aerial photos. I'm 6'3" and this thing was taller than me. The ceiling had to be punched out to handle this monster. Processing the prints was a two man job and drying them was a total pain. We couldn't us the drum roller dryer for these prints.They had to be put on the finishing table and left to dry over night.
That's some crazy memories! I have a hole in the ceiling in my new lab for one of the monsters too! :)
@@linabessonova Was it a Saltzman with bir rubber pad to protect your head?
Congratulations! My biggest was for 4x5 (9x12?). I was a dwarf, compared to you and Messimo! It said it all, when the electric guy made sign of the Cross, as he switched it on! I am waiting to see when you print!I think best video ever! Bravo! Bravo!
What a great job with the darkrooms. It is a tough thing. I scratch built mine including the sink. Hours and hours and hours.
Very Very cool I can't wait to see one of your prints from the Monster.
Hi Lina,
I enjoyed your video ! About 25 years ago I picked up an enlarger at a church sale for $5.00 it included just about everything I needed,the only modification I made was to change out the riser pole so I could do bigger enlargements (that is after the head stopped shaking). I was able at the time to do professional wedding as well as portrait photography.
And yes I did very well! Have you ever considered doing portraits in your area?
Always love your videos. Thanks for the fun insight into your darkroom!
Thanks for watching! :)
Wow!! Well done!!
Yes there is nothing like the smell of photo paper....chemicals.......film........people that ONLY use PCs/electronic cameras will never know what they are missing.........I started in 1968......can still remember the excitement of my 1sr print.
In addition to printing from 11x14’’ negatives, I guess you could use the Monster to make enlarged “contact” sheets from 35mm or 120 roll film? Especially for 35mm film, I am sure there is a market 😉
Fantastic! Seems like a great school to study with. Look forward to seeing you work in this darkroom.
Once I feel fully comfortable, I will of course do a video on printing with the Monsters!
I think I'm lucky having a Durst M305, but I want to upgrade to a colour medium format.
So let me get this right, you have an amazing talent, you have an incredible worth ethic and you are intelligent enough to do a master's and you speak at least three languages? You have an amazing future ahead of you and you are going to cross more frontiers than just physical ones. The world could truly do with a few more like you.
Totally inspired. Thank you!
Well I’ll be damned! You guys did it big, like REALLY BIG!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Lucky you, having now such an enlarger available 🍀. Noooo, I'm not jealous at all 😉
great video, and by the way, what commenters are saying is not technically correct, as from my research in to all forms of paper printing (newspapers, etc.) this is just one method of making the "plate", ie if it was metal, you would do by acid etching, clay -you would lino-cut the plate, but for silkscreen (teashirts), and some Gelitin ofset press plates, you photo print the design, then photo-chemically expose the design onto the "master plate" so this needs similar gear to wet photography darkroom process. but the idea of 'typography" is the making of the lead typewriter keys, used as puzzle pieces to form a printing plate, used in press work, and this was the main-stay of this occupation,type setters, the operation of the machinery which cast the pieces out of lead, to feed the newspaper presses with the type to make their stories with.
Really interesting! Thank you!
incredibile! veramente un spetaculo Lina. Sei fortunata. Apena mi ho sotoscrito al tuo channel. Saluti da Monaco
Dear lord. Looks like you'll qualify for a certificate in analog electronics in addition to the masters.
Haha hopefully :)
Exciting. Thanks for sharing.
Great refurbishing job! Only thing missing now is a nice 11" x 14" camera!
Ahh I know... but whatever I need seems to come my way :)
Blue would be my color! Great enlargers.
If we find one more, it will be blue ;)
I remember using those in the military.
Why not build one with a LED panel and out of lightweight wood/aluminimum?
Very amazing. I am using a 4x5 camera, but I can't imagine a 11x15 picture.
Теперь Вы- Королева большого формата! Мой Дюрст 1200 будет казаться котенком после взгляда на этих "ребят"))
Ну это тоже немаленький котёнок ;)))
Brilliant :-D Love it and good luck :-)
Thanks!
Fenomenal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Idea loca y maravillosa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love that!!
Crazy Crazy Crazy Bluehair's Girl!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks!!
Epic!! So cool ;-)
congrats, very very good job!!!!!
Thank you!
Awesome!
I would like to know which LED-stripes do you use? I'm going to build my own 8x10 inch enlarger as well as refurbishing my Laborator 138 with a new lightsource so I'm looking for those you use inside your 'monster' ;)
This guy has a lot of experiences in converting enlarger to LED with total spectrum from 00 to 5. heilandelectronic.de/led_kaltlicht
Muito bom trabalho, parabéns!
I though I was going to see it working.
Two resurrections plus a demonstration on how to build Stone Henge 😃 a lot of work for a Summer.
A lot of work, a lot of fun! :)
Awesome video! Love the red. Are you going to show an 11x15 print?
I hopefully will shoot a video with the monsters, just not now.... now all stuck with medium format for Masters final project
Now if I could only get you guys to come fix our 8x10 here in New Orleans................................................... i can dream right but seriously that is a great looking machine though
güzel bir video, sevgi ile yapılan her şey mükemmel sonuç verir
WOW!!!!
looks like a diffuser head - any issues enlarging, given the color of the leds is different from the xenon bulb?
Good point I was thinking that too, but then again cold cathode lamps have a very narrow emission, just like LEDs do, so it should be fine.
it turned out not very fine, hard to get to grade 4.5 even, let alone 5. I experimented with different LED lights and eventually moved to a completely different light source :)
hey lina, what light source are you currently using?
With 8x10 negatives, do you need an enlarger? Wouldnt a contact print do? ;)
Ofcourse not ;) Try to make a large print (>50x60) from small negatives - it's essential to use at least 5x7" neg's for that :)
Is it possible to use it with 8mm film? :D
wow!
2.35...I'd cross myself too mate....
I'm jealous. I only have a 4x5 enlarger.
4x5 is awesome enough! in my darkroom back home I have a 4x5 too :)
Awesome Enlarger. 1st rule of working with Electricity is...take off all Jewelry. I have been electrocuted, trust me i know.
Hi Lina and Massimo you are my idols it is a very very good machine, Best regards from ARGENTINA
Как же я хочу работать в вашем даркруме
Btw what enlarging lens are using?
Ух ты, какой красавец! Когда-нибудь и я с Крокуса своего слезу :) А что за итальянский аналог ибея? Я в Италии часто бываю. Может, закуплюсь в следующий раз.
subito.it!
Лина, спасибо огромное!!! Купил себе в итоге Nikon F3 :)
In which Florence school was this?
It's not a school, we rented a private space and set it up :)
Tenho um Durst M805 colors
Привет. А что это за лаборатория будет? Посмотрел Ваши видео, но совсем понимаю. В некоторых слышу родную речь и узнаю некоторые места, а на других нет. Такие увеличители Вы не у нас собираете? Что за проект)?
Я все никак не сделаю русские субтитры, а надо)) Место действия в этом видео - Флоренция, Италия. Нашли онлайн огромный старый типографский увеличитель 30х40, под него оборудовали даркрум, нашли второй.... По сути просто лабораторию себе сделали с двумя монстрами :))
Да, я за субтитры). На русском практически нет видео по форматным камерам. Хочется узнать больше. Посоветоваться по некоторым вопросам. Я сам тоже увлекаюсь большим форматом. Вот печатаю портреты на DE VERE 504, но пока на просрочке от Славича Бромэкспресс 400 ПЭ 50*60см. Хочу вот размер отпечатка от метра по короткой сделать, но не могу найти такой бумаги(.
здравствуйте! а почему не чёрный?
не люблю этот цвет в интерьере!
@@linabessonova ну да вообще то, на вкус и цвет товарища нет.
You are so beautiful and so sweet. More videos please :-* / Ты так прекрасна и так сладко. Больше видео пожалуйста :-*
I agree with Hugo but I suspect that you are more by way of a muse than the Queen for Massimo&co.
And I thought my de
vere 8x10 enlarger was huge😂😂
Now you've seen it all!
Лина, где ты отыскиваешь этих монстров? на ибей?
Итальянский аналог ибея, но отыскала не я, а друг мой! У него какое-то чутьё особое :))
トヨビューの改造を水平にで十分 film and lens is vertical useing technicchal camera enough
Who the fuck cares about the colour of the enlarger?